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This is all really helpful info for when my EQ test drive comes bro..thanks for being so thorough!
Yea bro EVO is the best thanks to loggers like you!Its why we are here brother to learn, share and support. What makes Evo so good
Thanks for sharing, did you get e2 lcms as well?
@Allupfromhere Those are great numbers bro well done. I too feel best when my e2 is mid/high range.
Nah i didnt brother, i was feeling good so i didnt feel like lcms test was needed if e2 was recognisable from immunoassay testing. With no ai or serms being used i think mote accurate test measures are needed? Could be wrong though.
Yeah i think its a slight misunderstanding with e2.. obviously we dont want it at such a high range where negative implications come into play but we do benifit from levels of e2 relativr with high test where our bodies push for homeostasis
Ya my libido and gains are better when my e2 isn't tanked on the low end and I don't feel so apathetic
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Yes that’s common, e2 too low flattens mood, libido, and training drive. That's for most guys I've worked with.
And overall health markers
Yes sorry, should be more specific. My doc says that in refence to hormone numbers vs the "optimal" ranges @Mobster
@Allupfromhere do you feel like your estrogen is crushed? A lot of times blood work can be misleading. like with tren it can cause E2 to rise
Good chance your still crashed, I was 130 with IA and 40 on LCMS. Have seen @hypogaeum e2 119 IA and 51 LCMS.
IA can't tell the difference between estrone and estradiol and EQ raises your estrone
Doesn't explain why your feeling better though. Then again I didn't feel so bad just joints progressively got drier. I was on Proviron as well so I think a helped with mood and libido a lot. Are you still on Mast?
On a side note good to see your progesterone has dropped.
bros this a great point @Allupfromhere estrogen important. we know what it does to women but men need it too
i think you can avoid steroids messing with your #2 getting one of those tests. but in the end how you feel ? @Allupfromhere
@Allupfromhere this is a great post right here. Unfortunately with estrogen it can fluctuate quite a bit so it's always hard to get a read on it. Sometimes it's best just to know your body.
equipoise is a great option. and its CHEAP too. @Allupfromhere I like it a lot. You get some big bang for your buck.
Yeah, I definitely did at the start. My joints were dry as, libido was obsolete, like sex wouldn't even cross my mind. Mood was pretty flat and energy was declining.
Strange though, E2 is still super low, but I feel really good right now since bumping up the test dose.
Strength, gym, and recovery are all solid. Libido has for sure increased, but not back to normal yet.
Yeah, right, that's crazy interesting. I'll run the LCMS test in five weeks to check the increase in test and see levels between E2 and E1.
Bro, it's funny because I feel really good now, and my joints are significantly better, and the progress is great. I will get the more accurate test, though.
Yeah, that's what I'm basing things off now, brother.
Im really enjoying it bro, and enjoying experimenting with it.
Just sux it takes an extra 2 weeks to get lcms results back but yeah I think it would be great for yourself and everyone following to see if there is a difference.
Okay that is good to log
Yeah, brother, I'm a man for the people
The two weeks won't matter, as regardless of where things are at by that stage of the cycle, I will just be riding it out anyway.
Solely running more bloods for community research.
yeah keep being flexible
so its working then
Basing off how i feel, yes everything is working better. Thanks brother
hopefully everything continues to get even better with this next increase in test dose
sometimes feel is the wayBasing off how i feel, yes everything is working better. Thanks brother
that is what you love to do!
Definetly brother! I actually took this onboard after originally seeing your split for the week. 100% its the way foward!Splitting them is the best move brother, focus on growing each part and make that connection in the gym
I didnt see this comment the other day, apologies for the late response
I forgive you brotherDefinetly brother! I actually took this onboard after originally seeing your split for the week. 100% its the way foward!
I didnt see this comment the other day, apologies for the late response
Sorry for the lack of updates this weekend. I had a weekend away interstate for a friend's wedding out in the country, and it was a super nice reset for both of us. Unfortunately, I missed a couple of workouts, but I headed home today and will hit shoulders and arms this evening. Tomorrow, I still have a day off work, so I will hit chest and tris in the morning, then hamstrings and calves in the evening, and I will be back on track.
Funny looking back at pictures of the last wedding we went to. Big difference lol, hope everyone had a killer weekend
Funny looking back at pictures of the last wedding we went to. Big difference lol, hope everyone had a killer weekend
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Amazing bro, check out those skinny jeans. Should be real happy with yourself and your efforts.
Missing a couple workouts ain’t a bad thing, good for a physical and mental break from putting body through heaps, and when you get back you’ll be stinging to get in there.
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Good reset weekend and solid plan to double up for catch up. Shoulders and arms tonight then chest and hamstrings split tomorrow will get you back pumped.
Pics look like you leaned out. Keep intensity high this week and add 1 extra set per body part to make up for the skipped days.
Feeling a little small at the moment lol. Almost 30kg between those photos.
81.8kg fasted this morning and that makes the weight loss 5kg in 5 weeks so far this cut.. you think this is too fast @LevButlerov?
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smaller doesn't matter, you're lean and strong
I don't think you losing weight too fast, there are other factors like glycogen and water you're losing as well, no issues. @Allupfromhere
Thanks bro.. the body dysmorphia swings in and out you know lolsmaller doesn't matter, you're lean and strong
I don't think you losing weight too fast, there are other factors like glycogen and water you're losing as well, no issues. @Allupfromhere
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Everyone has body dysmorphia here, we are a bodybuilding forum talks about steroids lolThanks bro.. the body dysmorphia swings in and out you know lol
this dysmorphia is a good thing not a bad thing, it drives us to be the best @Allupfromhere
@HarleyGuy
@Allupfromhere Oh don't get me started on body dysmorphia LOL. I'm 211lbs at around 16% and 5'9'. I have abs but there's a film of fat over them but they're definitely visible especially my obliques for some reason. Literally one day I am planning a cut phase and then the next I'm planning a Sust/NPP/Anadrol bulk blast to just get huge and fuck the abs. I look "best" (whatever the hell that means) at below 14% with my shirt off but then I seem to have to be below 195lbs and I can't stand the way I look in a t-shirt when I'm lean with abs because I look small and don't fill an XL shirt with the sleeves tight around my arms in a t-shirt. When I'm over 210 and can fill an XL I prefer that look walking around but then in the mirror I hate it.Everyone has body dysmorphia here, we are a bodybuilding forum talks about steroids lol
this dysmorphia is a good thing not a bad thing, it drives us to be the best @Allupfromhere
@HarleyGuy
Basically I will never like what I look like and yet I'm 48 years old and everyone I know has a dad bod or worse, many have a Big Mac estrogen King of the Hill Homer Simpson disgusting bod with gyno from their diet and beer intake. It makes me judge them and think they're weak ass minded useless Gomar Pyle's but I try and push that thinking away when it comes in. One person at a 12-step meeting last Monday said I was "clearly jacked" and that made me want to do another blast and put 10 more pounds and fuck the abs.
We're all fucked here bro
haha brother this is fucking awesome! Im exactly the same, love the look in the mirror with no shirt and then feel my sleeves getting a little loose and now i want to push size@Allupfromhere Oh don't get me started on body dysmorphia LOL. I'm 211lbs at around 16% and 5'9'. I have abs but there's a film of fat over them but they're definitely visible especially my obliques for some reason. Literally one day I am planning a cut phase and then the next I'm planning a Sust/NPP/Anadrol bulk blast to just get huge and fuck the abs. I look "best" (whatever the hell that means) at below 14% with my shirt off but then I seem to have to be below 195lbs and I can't stand the way I look in a t-shirt when I'm lean with abs because I look small and don't fill an XL shirt with the sleeves tight around my arms in a t-shirt. When I'm over 210 and can fill an XL I prefer that look walking around but then in the mirror I hate it.
Basically I will never like what I look like and yet I'm 48 years old and everyone I know has a dad bod or worse, many have a Big Mac estrogen King of the Hill Homer Simpson disgusting bod with gyno from their diet and beer intake. It makes me judge them and think they're weak ass minded useless Gomar Pyle's but I try and push that thinking away when it comes in. One person at a 12-step meeting last Monday said I was "clearly jacked" and that made me want to do another blast and put 10 more pounds and fuck the abs.
We're all fucked here bro
All i know is i have made a plan for right now and ill see it through no matter how i feel along the way. But next year i can promise ill be something else by the end of it, putting the hard work will be the easy part, working out the right strategy will be the difficult part to figure out. I reckon ill bring in a coach for the entire year.
Driving home from insterstate today i caught up on some of the podcasts.. you have one helluva story brother and to make it out the other side going strong, thats one hard man in that story. Well done and massive respect.
That's the secret bro... just accept that you hate your look daily and live with it but have a long term goal you're willing to adhere to which comes with the daily hatred of the reflection.haha brother this is fucking awesome! Im exactly the same, love the look in the mirror with no shirt and then feel my sleeves getting a little loose and now i want to push size
All i know is i have made a plan for right now and ill see it through no matter how i feel along the way. But next year i can promise ill be something else by the end of it, putting the hard work will be the easy part, working out the right strategy will be the difficult part to figure out. I reckon ill bring in a coach for the entire year.
Driving home from insterstate today i caught up on some of the podcasts.. you have one helluva story brother and to make it out the other side going strong, thats one hard man in that story. Well done and massive respect.
You with a coach would be insane you're already looking outstanding. Your log is one of the best on here right now and your meal preps are disciplined, your workouts are dialed in your gear and supps are all in check.
Thanks for listening to my podcast bro I appreciate it. You're a great rep for the Aussie bodybuilding community!
Hahaha thats its brother the daily hatred is what creates the driving force that helps us push hard through the trenches hahaThat's the secret bro... just accept that you hate your look daily and live with it but have a long term goal you're willing to adhere to which comes with the daily hatred of the reflection.
Means alot brother
i try and put it all in there to create more of a personal log then just a training log. As i myself enjoy logs that dont leave anything out, gives the feel like your actually on their journey with then too. So i hope i can do the sameI try my best brother along with some others. Really trying to bring up the aussie side and keep the supportive feel that made me join evo to start with.
Thanks for an amazing podcast! Along with @BeMe and @toddthelineman.
They were genuinely really good, even the wifey got listening on our way back.
Thanks dude! I never would have thought I would do something like that. Ive avoided any type of spotlight my whole life lol
@Allupfromhere thank you for posting these. This is really cool to see.
Welcome brother, i feel these kinds of post can help others if they find themselves looking for information or are in similar situations.. will have the last lot of bloods pulled for the cycle in another 5 weeks
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I think we'll see a big difference in 5 weeks imoWelcome brother, i feel these kinds of post can help others if they find themselves looking for information or are in similar situations.. will have the last lot of bloods pulled for the cycle in another 5 weeks
Fingers crossed brother hahaI think we'll see a big difference in 5 weeks imo
Naw for sure bro. You're already on the right track. You got this in hand now
I totally get that. You wanna see putting it out there check page 10 of my log LOL @AllupfromhereMeans alot brother
And yet you nailed it @toddthelineman
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Training
Incline Barbell Bench Press
3×6–10 | Tempo 3-1-1-1
90kg ×8
90kg ×8
90kg ×6#
Was able to squeeze more reps here this week — started the session with this first.
Machine Pec Deck (Hammer Strength)
3×10–12, 1×10–12 DS | Tempo 3-2-1-2
68kg ×12
68kg ×12
68kg ×10
48kg ×11
27kg ×10
Plate-Loaded Chest Press (Hammer Strength)
2×8–10, 1×12–15 RP | Tempo 3-2-1-1
100kg ×9
100kg ×8
50kg ×15 – 20 sec rest
50kg ×12
Reverse Pec Deck Fly
3×10–12, 1×10–12 DS | Tempo 3-2-1-2
64kg ×12
64kg ×11
64kg ×11
48kg ×10 DS
24.5kg ×8#
Dumbbell Side Lateral Raise
3×12–15, 1×Dropset / Run Down the Rack AMRAP | Tempo 3-1-1-2
12.5kg ×15
12.5kg ×14
12.5kg ×12
10kg AMRAP
7.5kg AMRAP
5kg AMRAP
2.5kg AMRAP
Was lucky to get 3 reps on the last — delts were on fire and burnt out. Full as hell though.
EZ Bar Skullcrushers
3×6–10 | Tempo 3-1-1-1
45kg ×9
45kg ×9
45kg ×6#
Wasn’t keen on pushing the 50 mark yet — fatigue was knocking on the door by this point.
Tricep Rope Extensions
3×12–15 | Tempo 3-2-1-1
28kg ×15
28kg ×12
28kg ×12
15kg AMRAP burnout set
Temporary push workout today just to make up for some lost training over the weekend. Will be moving back to regular split tomorrow though.
Big session and big volume, was well fed and digested before the workout and had some intra carbs while training too just to try and keep me going.
Too many intensifiers for a push day but as most can probably tell by now i do love a bit of volume.
So 5 weeks in and 5kg down.. mostly happy with where everything is at and i know ill get the 'small' feelings here and there on a cut but once i really push into becoming leaner i think ill find my attention will gravitate towards that and not worry about filling out my shirts as much lol. That can be next years problem
Into the second third of this cycle now and need to stay tight on track, where we sit at the end of the next 5 weeks will determine how hard we need to push on the remaining 5 weeks.
Cycle protocol update:
Some things have moved around dose wise as most may have seen following along. A couple of side additions in there now also
Current cycle/doses
Test e 1000mg weekly - pinned m/w/f
Eq 400mg weekly - pinned m/w/f
Gh 3iu ed p.m
3mg reta weekely - pinned m/t
At week 8 or 6 (see how we feel lol)
Tren ace 200mg weekly - pinned ed
I really wanted to add mast p in but looks like it wont be accessible now. Not sure if to finish with an oral like anavar or just leave things to the tren to finish up. Thoughts?
Peps
Bpc 157 250mcg daily
tb500 250mcg daily
Dsip 200mcg pm 5x week
New additions
Kaizen 1ml pre workout
400mg l carnitine
200mg choline
20mg nad+
Supps the same as page 1 still.
Some meal pics -
Pre workout cream of rice n wpi.
Post workout tuna, rice wpi.
Dinner, as shown.
And some prep for the next few days, chicken n rice.
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Training
Incline Barbell Bench Press
3×6–10 | Tempo 3-1-1-1
90kg ×8
90kg ×8
90kg ×6#
Was able to squeeze more reps here this week — started the session with this first.
Machine Pec Deck (Hammer Strength)
3×10–12, 1×10–12 DS | Tempo 3-2-1-2
68kg ×12
68kg ×12
68kg ×10
48kg ×11
27kg ×10
Plate-Loaded Chest Press (Hammer Strength)
2×8–10, 1×12–15 RP | Tempo 3-2-1-1
100kg ×9
100kg ×8
50kg ×15 – 20 sec rest
50kg ×12
Reverse Pec Deck Fly
3×10–12, 1×10–12 DS | Tempo 3-2-1-2
64kg ×12
64kg ×11
64kg ×11
48kg ×10 DS
24.5kg ×8#
Dumbbell Side Lateral Raise
3×12–15, 1×Dropset / Run Down the Rack AMRAP | Tempo 3-1-1-2
12.5kg ×15
12.5kg ×14
12.5kg ×12
10kg AMRAP
7.5kg AMRAP
5kg AMRAP
2.5kg AMRAP
Was lucky to get 3 reps on the last — delts were on fire and burnt out. Full as hell though.
EZ Bar Skullcrushers
3×6–10 | Tempo 3-1-1-1
45kg ×9
45kg ×9
45kg ×6#
Wasn’t keen on pushing the 50 mark yet — fatigue was knocking on the door by this point.
Tricep Rope Extensions
3×12–15 | Tempo 3-2-1-1
28kg ×15
28kg ×12
28kg ×12
15kg AMRAP burnout set
Temporary push workout today just to make up for some lost training over the weekend. Will be moving back to regular split tomorrow though.
Big session and big volume, was well fed and digested before the workout and had some intra carbs while training too just to try and keep me going.
Too many intensifiers for a push day but as most can probably tell by now i do love a bit of volume.
So 5 weeks in and 5kg down.. mostly happy with where everything is at and i know ill get the 'small' feelings here and there on a cut but once i really push into becoming leaner i think ill find my attention will gravitate towards that and not worry about filling out my shirts as much lol. That can be next years problem
Into the second third of this cycle now and need to stay tight on track, where we sit at the end of the next 5 weeks will determine how hard we need to push on the remaining 5 weeks.
Cycle protocol update:
Some things have moved around dose wise as most may have seen following along. A couple of side additions in there now also
Current cycle/doses
Test e 1000mg weekly - pinned m/w/f
Eq 400mg weekly - pinned m/w/f
Gh 3iu ed p.m
3mg reta weekely - pinned m/t
At week 8 or 6 (see how we feel lol)
Tren ace 200mg weekly - pinned ed
I really wanted to add mast p in but looks like it wont be accessible now. Not sure if to finish with an oral like anavar or just leave things to the tren to finish up. Thoughts?
Peps
Bpc 157 250mcg daily
tb500 250mcg daily
Dsip 200mcg pm 5x week
New additions
Kaizen 1ml pre workout
400mg l carnitine
200mg choline
20mg nad+
Supps the same as page 1 still.
Some meal pics -
Pre workout cream of rice n wpi.
Post workout tuna, rice wpi.
Dinner, as shown.
And some prep for the next few days, chicken n rice.
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Love the meals and meal prep! Absolutely a weaponDay 35 – Monday | Push (Temporary)
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Training
Incline Barbell Bench Press
3×6–10 | Tempo 3-1-1-1
90kg ×8
90kg ×8
90kg ×6#
Was able to squeeze more reps here this week — started the session with this first.
Machine Pec Deck (Hammer Strength)
3×10–12, 1×10–12 DS | Tempo 3-2-1-2
68kg ×12
68kg ×12
68kg ×10
48kg ×11
27kg ×10
Plate-Loaded Chest Press (Hammer Strength)
2×8–10, 1×12–15 RP | Tempo 3-2-1-1
100kg ×9
100kg ×8
50kg ×15 – 20 sec rest
50kg ×12
Reverse Pec Deck Fly
3×10–12, 1×10–12 DS | Tempo 3-2-1-2
64kg ×12
64kg ×11
64kg ×11
48kg ×10 DS
24.5kg ×8#
Dumbbell Side Lateral Raise
3×12–15, 1×Dropset / Run Down the Rack AMRAP | Tempo 3-1-1-2
12.5kg ×15
12.5kg ×14
12.5kg ×12
10kg AMRAP
7.5kg AMRAP
5kg AMRAP
2.5kg AMRAP
Was lucky to get 3 reps on the last — delts were on fire and burnt out. Full as hell though.
EZ Bar Skullcrushers
3×6–10 | Tempo 3-1-1-1
45kg ×9
45kg ×9
45kg ×6#
Wasn’t keen on pushing the 50 mark yet — fatigue was knocking on the door by this point.
Tricep Rope Extensions
3×12–15 | Tempo 3-2-1-1
28kg ×15
28kg ×12
28kg ×12
15kg AMRAP burnout set
Temporary push workout today just to make up for some lost training over the weekend. Will be moving back to regular split tomorrow though.
Big session and big volume, was well fed and digested before the workout and had some intra carbs while training too just to try and keep me going.
Too many intensifiers for a push day but as most can probably tell by now i do love a bit of volume.
So 5 weeks in and 5kg down.. mostly happy with where everything is at and i know ill get the 'small' feelings here and there on a cut but once i really push into becoming leaner i think ill find my attention will gravitate towards that and not worry about filling out my shirts as much lol. That can be next years problem
Into the second third of this cycle now and need to stay tight on track, where we sit at the end of the next 5 weeks will determine how hard we need to push on the remaining 5 weeks.
Cycle protocol update:
Some things have moved around dose wise as most may have seen following along. A couple of side additions in there now also
Current cycle/doses
Test e 1000mg weekly - pinned m/w/f
Eq 400mg weekly - pinned m/w/f
Gh 3iu ed p.m
3mg reta weekely - pinned m/t
At week 8 or 6 (see how we feel lol)
Tren ace 200mg weekly - pinned ed
I really wanted to add mast p in but looks like it wont be accessible now. Not sure if to finish with an oral like anavar or just leave things to the tren to finish up. Thoughts?
Peps
Bpc 157 250mcg daily
tb500 250mcg daily
Dsip 200mcg pm 5x week
New additions
Kaizen 1ml pre workout
400mg l carnitine
200mg choline
20mg nad+
Supps the same as page 1 still.
Some meal pics -
Pre workout cream of rice n wpi.
Post workout tuna, rice wpi.
Dinner, as shown.
And some prep for the next few days, chicken n rice.
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I'd cut and paste these into a template for yourself because I don't remember your supps from page 1 but would like to see them each time you post. Sometimes I'm on 50-100 logs a day and reposting your protocol helps a lot. That's just the way I did it though.
Amazing log by the way, detailed and accurate. I'm in awe of your meal prep it is top notch and limits the chances of hidden macros sneaking and extra calories.
Your workout was awesome... a true beach bod workout. Pecs and Tri's for their eyes!
Have you run Tren before?Day 35 – Monday | Push (Temporary)
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Training
Incline Barbell Bench Press
3×6–10 | Tempo 3-1-1-1
90kg ×8
90kg ×8
90kg ×6#
Was able to squeeze more reps here this week — started the session with this first.
Machine Pec Deck (Hammer Strength)
3×10–12, 1×10–12 DS | Tempo 3-2-1-2
68kg ×12
68kg ×12
68kg ×10
48kg ×11
27kg ×10
Plate-Loaded Chest Press (Hammer Strength)
2×8–10, 1×12–15 RP | Tempo 3-2-1-1
100kg ×9
100kg ×8
50kg ×15 – 20 sec rest
50kg ×12
Reverse Pec Deck Fly
3×10–12, 1×10–12 DS | Tempo 3-2-1-2
64kg ×12
64kg ×11
64kg ×11
48kg ×10 DS
24.5kg ×8#
Dumbbell Side Lateral Raise
3×12–15, 1×Dropset / Run Down the Rack AMRAP | Tempo 3-1-1-2
12.5kg ×15
12.5kg ×14
12.5kg ×12
10kg AMRAP
7.5kg AMRAP
5kg AMRAP
2.5kg AMRAP
Was lucky to get 3 reps on the last — delts were on fire and burnt out. Full as hell though.
EZ Bar Skullcrushers
3×6–10 | Tempo 3-1-1-1
45kg ×9
45kg ×9
45kg ×6#
Wasn’t keen on pushing the 50 mark yet — fatigue was knocking on the door by this point.
Tricep Rope Extensions
3×12–15 | Tempo 3-2-1-1
28kg ×15
28kg ×12
28kg ×12
15kg AMRAP burnout set
Temporary push workout today just to make up for some lost training over the weekend. Will be moving back to regular split tomorrow though.
Big session and big volume, was well fed and digested before the workout and had some intra carbs while training too just to try and keep me going.
Too many intensifiers for a push day but as most can probably tell by now i do love a bit of volume.
So 5 weeks in and 5kg down.. mostly happy with where everything is at and i know ill get the 'small' feelings here and there on a cut but once i really push into becoming leaner i think ill find my attention will gravitate towards that and not worry about filling out my shirts as much lol. That can be next years problem
Into the second third of this cycle now and need to stay tight on track, where we sit at the end of the next 5 weeks will determine how hard we need to push on the remaining 5 weeks.
Cycle protocol update:
Some things have moved around dose wise as most may have seen following along. A couple of side additions in there now also
Current cycle/doses
Test e 1000mg weekly - pinned m/w/f
Eq 400mg weekly - pinned m/w/f
Gh 3iu ed p.m
3mg reta weekely - pinned m/t
At week 8 or 6 (see how we feel lol)
Tren ace 200mg weekly - pinned ed
I really wanted to add mast p in but looks like it wont be accessible now. Not sure if to finish with an oral like anavar or just leave things to the tren to finish up. Thoughts?
Peps
Bpc 157 250mcg daily
tb500 250mcg daily
Dsip 200mcg pm 5x week
New additions
Kaizen 1ml pre workout
400mg l carnitine
200mg choline
20mg nad+
Supps the same as page 1 still.
Some meal pics -
Pre workout cream of rice n wpi.
Post workout tuna, rice wpi.
Dinner, as shown.
And some prep for the next few days, chicken n rice.
Just curious cuz your 200mg dose is sorta on the lower end. If you're trying to get diced you could always up the Tren instead of adding an oral.
@stevesmi and @Mobster just did a podcast episode about finishing a cycle with winny to harden up.
Yeah for sure can do brother ill drop it in the next update!I'd cut and paste these into a template for yourself because I don't remember your supps from page 1 but would like to see them each time you post. Sometimes I'm on 50-100 logs a day and reposting your protocol helps a lot. That's just the way I did it though.
Amazing log by the way, detailed and accurate. I'm in awe of your meal prep it is top notch and limits the chances of hidden macros sneaking and extra calories.
Your workout was awesome... a true beach bod workout. Pecs and Tri's for their eyes!
Thats why i eat the way i do, it just makes everything too easy to manage and track.
Hahahahaha yeah it was a temporary style of workout to top up the ones missed over the weekend, be back to the normal structure today though.
Thanks again brother
Hey brother yeah i run tren e earlier this year, took it up to 450mg and absolutely hated life lol. Sleep was pretty much obsolete, and just woke up in a pool of sweat everynight. Felt shit all the time, except in the gym. Went to ed injections and still couldnt settle those sides. Progesterone had shot right up and started getting gyno.
Dropped the dose little by little and my sweet spot was 200-250. Sleep was coming back in much better, not perfect but a helluva lot better. Some carbs before bed helped with the sleep but would increase the sweats so it was a tricky balance lol.
Sweats had tapered right down once i figured a good amount of carbs to have of a night time and my brain and mood was much better now i wasnt compounding sleepless nights back to back.
At this stage is when i got the true benifits of tren. I felt like an animal, i would get in the gym and feel like bending barbells.
Strength bounced up and just felt dominant all the time. Body changed fast too and was the first time seeing abs since my early 20s lol.
Its very strong tren and happy i dont need much, at that dose i was able to keep all my bloods in range or extremely close to. Some can handle the side effect at high dose but the lack of sleep for me just killed everything too much recovery wise and work. I do a high risk job and need to be on the ball at all times.
Ill be running tren ace this time around, so might kick it off at the 8 week mark and push it a little higher maybe. If i respond well i go for it, not it was be fast enough to drop it back to wherr i knoe works well.
Winstrol im not that keen on as my joints are already a little sore.
Sounds like you only have one option then...anavar or bust lol.Hey brother yeah i run tren e earlier this year, took it up to 450mg and absolutely hated life lol. Sleep was pretty much obsolete, and just woke up in a pool of sweat everynight. Felt shit all the time, except in the gym. Went to ed injections and still couldnt settle those sides. Progesterone had shot right up and started getting gyno.
Dropped the dose little by little and my sweet spot was 200-250. Sleep was coming back in much better, not perfect but a helluva lot better. Some carbs before bed helped with the sleep but would increase the sweats so it was a tricky balance lol.
Sweats had tapered right down once i figured a good amount of carbs to have of a night time and my brain and mood was much better now i wasnt compounding sleepless nights back to back.
At this stage is when i got the true benifits of tren. I felt like an animal, i would get in the gym and feel like bending barbells.
Strength bounced up and just felt dominant all the time. Body changed fast too and was the first time seeing abs since my early 20s lol.
Its very strong tren and happy i dont need much, at that dose i was able to keep all my bloods in range or extremely close to. Some can handle the side effect at high dose but the lack of sleep for me just killed everything too much recovery wise and work. I do a high risk job and need to be on the ball at all times.
Ill be running tren ace this time around, so might kick it off at the 8 week mark and push it a little higher maybe. If i respond well i go for it, not it was be fast enough to drop it back to wherr i knoe works well.
Winstrol im not that keen on as my joints are already a little sore.
Who knows maybe the Tren will dive you up and the ace will help you find a new sweet spot. That's gonna be a fun log to follow
Id be happy to push it on the last 5 weeks anyway if its giving the asthetic results im chasing
shattered about the mast p though that would have been the icing on the cake at that stage
I grabbed 4 vials when I heard about the impending shortage. I've never run mast before so I wanted to atleast try it once. Holding onto it for the springId be happy to push it on the last 5 weeks anyway if its giving the asthetic results im chasing
I reckon you will love it brother and with how low your bodyfat stays, you will get the full benifits from the aesthetics it can produce. Plus you will feel as hard as concrete!
That's it! See what you did @BeMe Now you just got me making up a proton order for MastP, it will be my 3rd order this week FusionCanada LOL. For the love of God if I find primo at 200mg/ml on any approved source I'm maxing my line of credit out too.
Just talk to @Fusion Canada and he can keep you on a list of they end up getting some in. He got some a little while back.
I've also heard Pur Pharma has a list as well and they've been getting some here and there
Yea I think in the late spring I'm gonna run it and see how peeled I can get form summer. So vein lol!I reckon you will love it brother and with how low your bodyfat stays, you will get the full benifits from the aesthetics it can produce. Plus you will feel as hard as concrete!
Thats why we do it brother haha.. its not how ya roll through summer, its how good ya can look rolling through summer hahaha
Day 36 – Tuesday Back/Biceps
Health by @ZenithHealth
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Training
10 mins incline treadmill warm-up
Lat Pulldown
3×10-12, Last set double drop | Tempo 3-2-1-1
77kg ×10
77kg ×10
77kg ×9 dropset
50kg ×9 dropset
35kg ×8#
Chest Supported Row single arm —
2×6–10 | 1×12–15 Burnout | Tempo 3-2-1-1
85kg ×8L/R
85kg ×8 L/R
120kg ×12
Hit the added weight for both working sets, burnout set is two hands.
High Row (plate loaded) —
3×8–12 | Tempo 3-2-1-1
110kg ×10
110kg ×9 +1rep
110kg ×9
Gonna push weight up on the first 2 sets next week and move the third to a burner.
Straight Arm Rope Pulldown —
3×12–15 | Tempo 2-1-2-2
25kg ×15
25kg ×14
25kg ×14 dropset
15kg ×13 dropset
10kg ×13
Standing calf raise machine – Shrugs
3×12–15
165kg ×12
165kg ×12
165kg ×11##
Ez barbell curls —
3×8–12 | Tempo 3-1-2-1
40kg ×10
40kg ×10
40kg ×8#
Ez barbell curls overhand
3×12-15 | Tempo 3-1-2-1
25kg ×13
25kg ×12
25kg ×12
Couldnt believe how much pump these sets gave..
Workout was solid, was an afternoon session so had been well fed throughout the day. Step count suffered a little as i was working on the ground and was operating the tower crane. Went for a solid walk with the wife and new dog we just adopted
to get a few more steps in for the day and kick start digestion after dinner.
Will assess weight and visually at the end of this week again. If all is tracking well we continue, if not i might drop the carbs down a touch on each day.
Took some photos when i got home, probably should have taken some of my back considering it was back day
but some front on shots anyway. Full day of eating definetely takes away some detail around the midsection and my post workout meal too – beef, eggs, rice.
Health by @ZenithHealth
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Training
10 mins incline treadmill warm-up
Lat Pulldown
3×10-12, Last set double drop | Tempo 3-2-1-1
77kg ×10
77kg ×10
77kg ×9 dropset
50kg ×9 dropset
35kg ×8#
Chest Supported Row single arm —
2×6–10 | 1×12–15 Burnout | Tempo 3-2-1-1
85kg ×8L/R
85kg ×8 L/R
120kg ×12
Hit the added weight for both working sets, burnout set is two hands.
High Row (plate loaded) —
3×8–12 | Tempo 3-2-1-1
110kg ×10
110kg ×9 +1rep
110kg ×9
Gonna push weight up on the first 2 sets next week and move the third to a burner.
Straight Arm Rope Pulldown —
3×12–15 | Tempo 2-1-2-2
25kg ×15
25kg ×14
25kg ×14 dropset
15kg ×13 dropset
10kg ×13
Standing calf raise machine – Shrugs
3×12–15
165kg ×12
165kg ×12
165kg ×11##
Ez barbell curls —
3×8–12 | Tempo 3-1-2-1
40kg ×10
40kg ×10
40kg ×8#
Ez barbell curls overhand
3×12-15 | Tempo 3-1-2-1
25kg ×13
25kg ×12
25kg ×12
Couldnt believe how much pump these sets gave..
Workout was solid, was an afternoon session so had been well fed throughout the day. Step count suffered a little as i was working on the ground and was operating the tower crane. Went for a solid walk with the wife and new dog we just adopted
to get a few more steps in for the day and kick start digestion after dinner.Will assess weight and visually at the end of this week again. If all is tracking well we continue, if not i might drop the carbs down a touch on each day.
Took some photos when i got home, probably should have taken some of my back considering it was back day
but some front on shots anyway. Full day of eating definetely takes away some detail around the midsection and my post workout meal too – beef, eggs, rice.Attachments
Everything look amazing bro, especially that meal.Day 36 – Tuesday Back/Biceps
Health by @ZenithHealth
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Training
10 mins incline treadmill warm-up
Lat Pulldown
3×10-12, Last set double drop | Tempo 3-2-1-1
77kg ×10
77kg ×10
77kg ×9 dropset
50kg ×9 dropset
35kg ×8#
Chest Supported Row single arm —
2×6–10 | 1×12–15 Burnout | Tempo 3-2-1-1
85kg ×8L/R
85kg ×8 L/R
120kg ×12
Hit the added weight for both working sets, burnout set is two hands.
High Row (plate loaded) —
3×8–12 | Tempo 3-2-1-1
110kg ×10
110kg ×9 +1rep
110kg ×9
Gonna push weight up on the first 2 sets next week and move the third to a burner.
Straight Arm Rope Pulldown —
3×12–15 | Tempo 2-1-2-2
25kg ×15
25kg ×14
25kg ×14 dropset
15kg ×13 dropset
10kg ×13
Standing calf raise machine – Shrugs
3×12–15
165kg ×12
165kg ×12
165kg ×11##
Ez barbell curls —
3×8–12 | Tempo 3-1-2-1
40kg ×10
40kg ×10
40kg ×8#
Ez barbell curls overhand
3×12-15 | Tempo 3-1-2-1
25kg ×13
25kg ×12
25kg ×12
Couldnt believe how much pump these sets gave..
Workout was solid, was an afternoon session so had been well fed throughout the day. Step count suffered a little as i was working on the ground and was operating the tower crane. Went for a solid walk with the wife and new dog we just adopted
Will assess weight and visually at the end of this week again. If all is tracking well we continue, if not i might drop the carbs down a touch on each day.
Took some photos when i got home, probably should have taken some of my back considering it was back day
Nothing like a rescue dog to keep those steps up.
As you said a couple times weight dropping off very easy, can you just bump the calories up and hopefully build some muscle while burning fat with your output?
It crosses my mind everyday brother haha.. however the thing is, everything is working as planned and its hard not to get a little greedy sometimes. Its in our nature to want 'more'.
Now if i do and it kills the momentum of the cut it can almost become a restart button leaving me without much gained muscle and even less time to get the cut rolling again as we only have 11 weeks left..
The weightloss doesnt always pick up where it leaves as our metabolisms can shift.
So the gamble is possibly stall what production is already happening for only potential small gains to be made.
Loving the consistent updates with photos, definitely keep that up!
Your arms are looking absolutely solid with great definition, which body part do you find is improving the fastest and is there any muscle group you feel is lacking?
Great update!
Your arms are looking absolutely solid with great definition, which body part do you find is improving the fastest and is there any muscle group you feel is lacking?
Great update!
As usual you are all over it mate.
Day 36 – Tuesday Back/Biceps
Health by @ZenithHealth
Powered by @R&Dpharma
Training
10 mins incline treadmill warm-up
Lat Pulldown
3×10-12, Last set double drop | Tempo 3-2-1-1
77kg ×10
77kg ×10
77kg ×9 dropset
50kg ×9 dropset
35kg ×8#
Chest Supported Row single arm —
2×6–10 | 1×12–15 Burnout | Tempo 3-2-1-1
85kg ×8L/R
85kg ×8 L/R
120kg ×12
Hit the added weight for both working sets, burnout set is two hands.
High Row (plate loaded) —
3×8–12 | Tempo 3-2-1-1
110kg ×10
110kg ×9 +1rep
110kg ×9
Gonna push weight up on the first 2 sets next week and move the third to a burner.
Straight Arm Rope Pulldown —
3×12–15 | Tempo 2-1-2-2
25kg ×15
25kg ×14
25kg ×14 dropset
15kg ×13 dropset
10kg ×13
Standing calf raise machine – Shrugs
3×12–15
165kg ×12
165kg ×12
165kg ×11##
Ez barbell curls —
3×8–12 | Tempo 3-1-2-1
40kg ×10
40kg ×10
40kg ×8#
Ez barbell curls overhand
3×12-15 | Tempo 3-1-2-1
25kg ×13
25kg ×12
25kg ×12
Couldnt believe how much pump these sets gave..
Workout was solid, was an afternoon session so had been well fed throughout the day. Step count suffered a little as i was working on the ground and was operating the tower crane. Went for a solid walk with the wife and new dog we just adopted
Will assess weight and visually at the end of this week again. If all is tracking well we continue, if not i might drop the carbs down a touch on each day.
Took some photos when i got home, probably should have taken some of my back considering it was back day
Looking great bro! Your arms are looking huge!
Holy shit... Arms looking awesome mate! Love the biceps in the first pic!Day 36 – Tuesday Back/Biceps
Health by @ZenithHealth
Powered by @R&Dpharma
Training
10 mins incline treadmill warm-up
Lat Pulldown
3×10-12, Last set double drop | Tempo 3-2-1-1
77kg ×10
77kg ×10
77kg ×9 dropset
50kg ×9 dropset
35kg ×8#
Chest Supported Row single arm —
2×6–10 | 1×12–15 Burnout | Tempo 3-2-1-1
85kg ×8L/R
85kg ×8 L/R
120kg ×12
Hit the added weight for both working sets, burnout set is two hands.
High Row (plate loaded) —
3×8–12 | Tempo 3-2-1-1
110kg ×10
110kg ×9 +1rep
110kg ×9
Gonna push weight up on the first 2 sets next week and move the third to a burner.
Straight Arm Rope Pulldown —
3×12–15 | Tempo 2-1-2-2
25kg ×15
25kg ×14
25kg ×14 dropset
15kg ×13 dropset
10kg ×13
Standing calf raise machine – Shrugs
3×12–15
165kg ×12
165kg ×12
165kg ×11##
Ez barbell curls —
3×8–12 | Tempo 3-1-2-1
40kg ×10
40kg ×10
40kg ×8#
Ez barbell curls overhand
3×12-15 | Tempo 3-1-2-1
25kg ×13
25kg ×12
25kg ×12
Couldnt believe how much pump these sets gave..
Workout was solid, was an afternoon session so had been well fed throughout the day. Step count suffered a little as i was working on the ground and was operating the tower crane. Went for a solid walk with the wife and new dog we just adopted
Will assess weight and visually at the end of this week again. If all is tracking well we continue, if not i might drop the carbs down a touch on each day.
Took some photos when i got home, probably should have taken some of my back considering it was back day
Brother
I think my arms are taking lead with development but hoping the legs start to catch up with them lol.
Mid section needs the most work but that what the cut is for
Chest is by far the most lagging part for sure. Next year will be my main priority really trying to fill it out out tighten the skin in that area.
We keep putting in the work
hope im doing the brand proud brother
Thanks brother hopefully i can keep it up lol
Thanks brother putting in the work for it haha
Thanks brother!!! Still cant wait for them to get massive though lol
I don’t think anyone following your log would doubt it mate.
Love eq Bru
Done! Email being written on my phone as I type this.
One hell of a workout bro. DROPSETS! NICE!!Day 36 – Tuesday Back/Biceps
Health by @ZenithHealth
Powered by @R&Dpharma
Training
10 mins incline treadmill warm-up
Lat Pulldown
3×10-12, Last set double drop | Tempo 3-2-1-1
77kg ×10
77kg ×10
77kg ×9 dropset
50kg ×9 dropset
35kg ×8#
Chest Supported Row single arm —
2×6–10 | 1×12–15 Burnout | Tempo 3-2-1-1
85kg ×8L/R
85kg ×8 L/R
120kg ×12
Hit the added weight for both working sets, burnout set is two hands.
High Row (plate loaded) —
3×8–12 | Tempo 3-2-1-1
110kg ×10
110kg ×9 +1rep
110kg ×9
Gonna push weight up on the first 2 sets next week and move the third to a burner.
Straight Arm Rope Pulldown —
3×12–15 | Tempo 2-1-2-2
25kg ×15
25kg ×14
25kg ×14 dropset
15kg ×13 dropset
10kg ×13
Standing calf raise machine – Shrugs
3×12–15
165kg ×12
165kg ×12
165kg ×11##
Ez barbell curls —
3×8–12 | Tempo 3-1-2-1
40kg ×10
40kg ×10
40kg ×8#
Ez barbell curls overhand
3×12-15 | Tempo 3-1-2-1
25kg ×13
25kg ×12
25kg ×12
Couldnt believe how much pump these sets gave..
Workout was solid, was an afternoon session so had been well fed throughout the day. Step count suffered a little as i was working on the ground and was operating the tower crane. Went for a solid walk with the wife and new dog we just adopted
Will assess weight and visually at the end of this week again. If all is tracking well we continue, if not i might drop the carbs down a touch on each day.
Took some photos when i got home, probably should have taken some of my back considering it was back day
Looking thick and jacked too!
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You look great in the pics with lean cuts and huge overall size.Day 36 – Tuesday Back/Biceps
Health by @ZenithHealth
Powered by @R&Dpharma
Training
10 mins incline treadmill warm-up
Lat Pulldown
3×10-12, Last set double drop | Tempo 3-2-1-1
77kg ×10
77kg ×10
77kg ×9 dropset
50kg ×9 dropset
35kg ×8#
Chest Supported Row single arm —
2×6–10 | 1×12–15 Burnout | Tempo 3-2-1-1
85kg ×8L/R
85kg ×8 L/R
120kg ×12
Hit the added weight for both working sets, burnout set is two hands.
High Row (plate loaded) —
3×8–12 | Tempo 3-2-1-1
110kg ×10
110kg ×9 +1rep
110kg ×9
Gonna push weight up on the first 2 sets next week and move the third to a burner.
Straight Arm Rope Pulldown —
3×12–15 | Tempo 2-1-2-2
25kg ×15
25kg ×14
25kg ×14 dropset
15kg ×13 dropset
10kg ×13
Standing calf raise machine – Shrugs
3×12–15
165kg ×12
165kg ×12
165kg ×11##
Ez barbell curls —
3×8–12 | Tempo 3-1-2-1
40kg ×10
40kg ×10
40kg ×8#
Ez barbell curls overhand
3×12-15 | Tempo 3-1-2-1
25kg ×13
25kg ×12
25kg ×12
Couldnt believe how much pump these sets gave..
Workout was solid, was an afternoon session so had been well fed throughout the day. Step count suffered a little as i was working on the ground and was operating the tower crane. Went for a solid walk with the wife and new dog we just adopted
Will assess weight and visually at the end of this week again. If all is tracking well we continue, if not i might drop the carbs down a touch on each day.
Took some photos when i got home, probably should have taken some of my back considering it was back day
Impressive improvement!Back session was strong so keep pulldown at 77 kg for 3x10-12 and push the high row to 115 kg next week for 2x8-10.
Curls and pulldowns clearly hit right so keep tempos tight. I see you on VIP level soon. @Allupfromhere
@Allupfromhere has my VIP vote for sure!You look great in the pics with lean cuts and huge overall size.
Back session was strong so keep pulldown at 77 kg for 3x10-12 and push the high row to 115 kg next week for 2x8-10.
Curls and pulldowns clearly hit right so keep tempos tight. I see you on VIP level soon. @Allupfromhere
We're lucky to have him!
Love the sound of that brother huge l9ve and respect for evo!You look great in the pics with lean cuts and huge overall size.
Back session was strong so keep pulldown at 77 kg for 3x10-12 and push the high row to 115 kg next week for 2x8-10.
Curls and pulldowns clearly hit right so keep tempos tight. I see you on VIP level soon. @Allupfromhere
Appreciate you heaps brother thank you
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EVO family love back at youLove the sound of that brother huge l9ve and respect for evo!
Yeah dont worry you will fill out nicely. And you are doing everyone proud brother, most of all yourselfBrother
I think my arms are taking lead with development but hoping the legs start to catch up with them lol.
Mid section needs the most work but that what the cut is for
Chest is by far the most lagging part for sure. Next year will be my main priority really trying to fill it out out tighten the skin in that area.
We keep putting in the work
I second that. The guy has a good heart and good intentions, great work effort both on EVO and off EVO in the gym and has contributed like a mofo on here for a long while! I think VIP's should be good for EVO but good humans too and he's one.
Huge amount of gratitude for you and all the evo fam brother. I know how much this community has help me the whole way and i try to give that back with what i can, thanks for the kind words brother much respect!
Day 37 Wednesday - Quads / Calves -
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5–7 mins stairmaster / mobility warm-up
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Training
Leg Extension —
3×12–15 | Tempo 3-2-1-2
85kg ×12 +2.5kg
85kg ×12 +2.5kg
85kg ×11(double drop set)
65kg ×9
45kg ×7
2.5kg increase on every set again this week.
Hack squat Squat (low foot, close stance) —
2×6–10 | Tempo 3-1-1-1
130kg ×8+10kg
130kg ×7 +10kg
Moved weight up by 10kg for both but drop off 1 set. Will add it back or maybe a burner set next week. Want to try and push more weight first
Heel-Elevated Bulgarian Split Squat —
2×10–12 (each leg) | Tempo 3-2-1-1
15kg(each hand) ×12
15kg(each hand) ×10
Leg Press (feet low & narrow) —
2×8-10 | Tempo 3-1-1-1
240kg ×9 +20kg
240kg ×8 +20kg
Same as the squats big increase in weight but dropped of a set. My ROM on this exercise has significantly improved. Stay in full control all the way down to the bump stops with complete instentional drive up.
Walking Lunges —
2×20 steps (10 each leg) | Short stride – Controlled stretch each rep
15kg ×10 each leg
15kg ×10 each leg
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Calves
Seated Calf Raise —
3×10–12 | Tempo 2-1-1-2
70kg ×12
70kg ×12
70kg ×11
What a monster of a day, amd not in a good way
12hr heavy shift at work, might as well be lugging 40kg barbells around all day then a 2hr drive home in traffic
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Still got in there for a quad session but dropped some volume back and just pushed the intensity with what energy i had left.
Got home and cooked some meals for the next few days, no excuses then.
Solid steps in and fuck all sleep last night as we are straight back into it today leaving home at 4am.. is what is it lol.
Rest day today, much needed.
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Health by @ZenithHealth
5–7 mins stairmaster / mobility warm-up
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Training
Leg Extension —
3×12–15 | Tempo 3-2-1-2
85kg ×12 +2.5kg
85kg ×12 +2.5kg
85kg ×11(double drop set)
65kg ×9
45kg ×7
2.5kg increase on every set again this week.
Hack squat Squat (low foot, close stance) —
2×6–10 | Tempo 3-1-1-1
130kg ×8+10kg
130kg ×7 +10kg
Moved weight up by 10kg for both but drop off 1 set. Will add it back or maybe a burner set next week. Want to try and push more weight first
Heel-Elevated Bulgarian Split Squat —
2×10–12 (each leg) | Tempo 3-2-1-1
15kg(each hand) ×12
15kg(each hand) ×10
Leg Press (feet low & narrow) —
2×8-10 | Tempo 3-1-1-1
240kg ×9 +20kg
240kg ×8 +20kg
Same as the squats big increase in weight but dropped of a set. My ROM on this exercise has significantly improved. Stay in full control all the way down to the bump stops with complete instentional drive up.
Walking Lunges —
2×20 steps (10 each leg) | Short stride – Controlled stretch each rep
15kg ×10 each leg
15kg ×10 each leg
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Calves
Seated Calf Raise —
3×10–12 | Tempo 2-1-1-2
70kg ×12
70kg ×12
70kg ×11
What a monster of a day, amd not in a good way
12hr heavy shift at work, might as well be lugging 40kg barbells around all day then a 2hr drive home in traffic
.Still got in there for a quad session but dropped some volume back and just pushed the intensity with what energy i had left.
Got home and cooked some meals for the next few days, no excuses then.
Solid steps in and fuck all sleep last night as we are straight back into it today leaving home at 4am.. is what is it lol.
Rest day today, much needed.
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Big weight on the hacks, impressive, knees cope alright? It seems to be my weak point
Yeah they started to but i run 7mm sleeves now and i feel it helps heaps especially at the bottom part of the movement
Just purchased some myself bro, they make a noticeable difference?
I genuinely feel they do, whether its more of a mental thing or not there is 100% a feeling of more stability when you push out of the hole in a squat. Even more so for narrow and low foot positions.
Sleeves it is, thanks guys, ill go sus it out
Yeah sweet, exactly what I’m looking for…I’ve used straps many years ago when i was pushing real weight but can’t be bothered with all that…this seems like an easier option
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