Boldenone vs Aromatase Inhibitors for estrogen control on cycle - Which one and Why?

[Vboogie]

Wanted to see what everyone’s thoughts are on using Boldenone to control estrogen vs an AI.

My last cycle I used arimidex and was able to precisely control estrogen without having to take more than 2.25 - 2.5 mg a week split into daily dosages while at peak test dosages.

Boldenone half life is 7 times longer than arimidex, which means bad effects will last considerably longer and quick management of estrogen will end up going back to an AI anyway most likely.

 

[LevButlerov]

Wanted to see what everyone’s thoughts are on using Boldenone to control estrogen vs an AI.

My last cycle I used arimidex and was able to precisely control estrogen without having to take more than 2.25 - 2.5 mg a week split into daily dosages while at peak test dosages.

Boldenone half life is 7 times longer than arimidex, which means bad effects will last considerably longer and quick management of estrogen will end up going back to an AI anyway most likely.

This is an interesting topic I think ais are much easier to use and control, aromasin being the best option but seems there are EVO brothers who prefer the eq control method.
I have a research thread up about it
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/equipoise-boldenone-and-estrogen-control.111055/
personally I think it depends on your experience, if you feel your body well using eq is smart, if you are new light ai like aromasin easier to control and manage.

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[stevesmi]

Wanted to see what everyone’s thoughts are on using Boldenone to control estrogen vs an AI.

My last cycle I used arimidex and was able to precisely control estrogen without having to take more than 2.25 - 2.5 mg a week split into daily dosages while at peak test dosages.

Boldenone half life is 7 times longer than arimidex, which means bad effects will last considerably longer and quick management of estrogen will end up going back to an AI anyway most likely.

This seems to be definitely an Aussie thing. I'll tell you, over the years in America we never considered equipoise an anti-estrogen.

 

[Koba]

This seems to be definitely an Aussie thing. I'll tell you, over the years in America we never considered equipoise an anti-estrogen.

Absolutely!
You know here in Aus too like 10 years ago we never considered EQ to be a source of Estrogen control either.
A common place cycle that was popularised by Dave Palumbo was 1200mg Test with 600mg of EQ & most of the guys running this were huge & full of water retention & had to run Arimidex @ 1/2tb every other day to keep some of the water off.
EQ was said to water down Androgens & not directly control Estrogen in any way.
I'd really like to know how this whole EQ use as an Estrogen control came about

 

[stevesmi]

Absolutely!
You know here in Aus too like 10 years ago we never considered EQ to be a source of Estrogen control either.
A common place cycle that was popularised by Dave Palumbo was 1200mg Test with 600mg of EQ & most of the guys running this were huge & full of water retention & had to run Arimidex @ 1/2tb every other day to keep some of the water off.
EQ was said to water down Androgens & not directly control Estrogen in any way.
I'd really like to know how this whole EQ use as an Estrogen control came about

not sure man but the bloods seem to support that it does help the aussie guys and less effective with americans.

i really think americans are more prone to estrogen levels and aussies are not due to the poor diets. i grew up consuming a lot of bad stuff beyond my control as this was what our parents fed us. this would also explain why americans suffer from far more chronic illnesses like cancer, diabetes, heart disease etc.

 

[Vboogie]

not sure man but the bloods seem to support that it does help the aussie guys and less effective with americans.

i really think americans are more prone to estrogen levels and aussies are not due to the poor diets. i grew up consuming a lot of bad stuff beyond my control as this was what our parents fed us. this would also explain why americans suffer from far more chronic illnesses like cancer, diabetes, heart disease etc.

So you’re saying we should move to Australia?! . I spent a month there and would happily return.

 

[ceo]

bros When I first started using steroids, I got gyno a couple of times and had to use a bra. I am definitely more prone to estrogen. All of Granny CEOs food growing up, she used to make a lot of good stuff.

 

[Koba]

So you’re saying we should move to Australia?! . I spent a month there and would happily return.

Yea come to Ozzy mate! we'll throw some kangaroo steaks on the barby for ya & throw ya an ice cold tinny too mate!

 

[ROIDDERS]

E.Q.s should never be trusted to control your estrogen. You should always keep an AI on hand just in case.

 

[jerseyshoremuscles]

Imo eq affects the way testosterone converts to estrogen. Eq competes with testosterone at the receptor level and eq have a stronger binding. I stop using eq and believe there are better aas.
I would rather use tbol instead of eq..

Imo
Single aas and test is the best
A low dise if Anastrozole to control estrogen
Anavar to get a dht effects
Hgh

 

[RickRock]

Everyone does have different sensitivities to estrogen which plays a factor. Some are more estrogen prone than others. Ill admit myself I use masteron often to control estrogen without an ai. Ive never tried eq with that intention, but never saw the level of ai properties from it that some report.

 

[Nasser1997o2]

I honestly think the big reason that Australians (and most of asia and europe) use EQ, Primo or Mast as AI's instead of Aromason or Arimidex is that we get bloodwork more often.

It seems like the americans (especially the old school guys) never or very rarely get bloodwork.

So they have no idea how low their E2 truely is.

also, the sides of low and high E2 are very similar, so if you "go by how you feel" you might confuse high e2 for low e2 and then think you need to take an AI on top of EQ and test.

 

[rustle]

50-60mg of @Gold Standard Labs boldenone ace keeps my E2 at ideal levels (for me) alongside 500mg test.

Weekly doses stated.

 

[jerseyshoremuscles]

Instead of using eq, I would just take more testosterone and more Anastrozole.

My next blast is simple and easy to mange
Test 2x a wk
Anastrozole 2x a wk
Tirzepatide 1x a wk
Cialis ed

I am holding off on the hgh because I, do not want to do daily injection.

 

[HarleyGuy]

This seems to be definitely an Aussie thing. I'll tell you, over the years in America we never considered equipoise an anti-estrogen.

I must be half Aussie because 100mg of EQ when was 5:1 Test EQ last cycle absolutely crushed my e2 like a wack-a-mole.
You're on to something though pointing out it's more prominent in the Aussie community.

@Vboogie there's becoming less and less doubt that EQ tanks e2 for most (not many, most) users and the proof is building up in our Community Research megathread here Equipoise Boldenone and Estrogen Control

 

[HarleyGuy]

50-60mg of @Gold Standard Labs boldenone ace keeps my E2 at ideal levels (for me) alongside 500mg test.

Weekly doses stated.

Thanks for this detailed feedback @rustle
Added your specific dosing to the Community Research thread here https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...one-and-estrogen-control.111055/#post-2086414

 

[Mobster]

The guys make good points and we've discussed the reasoning behind it often

 

[Grumpy]

Very intriguing discussion id say if you can get away with using eq id go in that direction as ai s are crappy drugs but all depends if it works for you

 

[Trenhead3cc]

Why not get a bit of extra anabolic benefits from the eq in lieu of an ai is my thoughts.

 

[stevesmi]

I must be half Aussie because 100mg of EQ when was 5:1 Test EQ last cycle absolutely crushed my e2 like a wack-a-mole.
You're on to something though pointing out it's more prominent in the Aussie community.

@Vboogie there's becoming less and less doubt that EQ tanks e2 for most (not many, most) users and the proof is building up in our Community Research megathread here Equipoise Boldenone and Estrogen Control

All those tats changed ur body lol

 

[Vboogie]

E.Q.s should never be trusted to control your estrogen. You should always keep an AI on hand just in case.

This is my plan

 

[HarleyGuy]

Why not get a bit of extra anabolic benefits from the eq in lieu of an ai is my thoughts.

A good argument to be made once you know what dose of EQ does what in your own body based on the other androgens deployed on a blast or even a cruise or TRT. Takes time to figure all this out and it does change over time too so it's less reliable but the argument has some merit for sure.

I wouldn't advise it for newbies as an AI. I personally know that 100mg EQ on 400mg Test tanks my e2 and it would have to 50mg EQ with 400mg Test (or an 8:1 ratio of Test/EQ in my case which is crazy).

 

[Trenhead3cc]

A good argument to be made once you know what dose of EQ does what in your own body based on the other androgens deployed on a blast or even a cruise or TRT. Takes time to figure all this out and it does change over time too so it's less reliable but the argument has some merit for sure.

I wouldn't advise it for newbies as an AI. I personally know that 100mg EQ on 400mg Test tanks my e2 and it would have to 50mg EQ with 400mg Test (or an 8:1 ratio of Test/EQ in my case which is crazy).

everyone is different and takes some real individual pharmacology trial and error to try and dial it in. There are even a few real outliers on Evo where they run close to or 1-1 ratio and that works for them. So definitely wouldn’t think anyone less than 3 cycles in try this at a min. And always have Aromasin on hand.

 

[2Thick]

At the end of the day the blood work doesn't lie. That's why you should get blood work and see for yourself.

 

[Ulter]

It is funny because back in the day people would use EQ and testosterone and 100% they would use an AI. It was considered one of those situations where the EQ didn't aromatize since it is a testosterone derivative.

 

[ROIDDERS]

This is my plan

won't go wrong being safe