Every day pinning?

TAGII · Sunday at 11:01 AM

Hey guys,
I’m new to the community but I have been cycling now for about 4 years on and off (trt off, not off off). I have been recently doing some research about getting the most out of your gear and have seen a lot of recommendations for daily injections to keep levels more stable (possibly higher?).
The last cycle I just finished about 8 weeks ago, I was running:
600mg Test E
600mg EQ
400mg Deca
These injections were divided up and done EOD.

My thought is, if I pin every day can I get the same results using less gear?

Two weeks ago I started pinning every day with 40mg a day of test e and 15mg a day of deca. (This is my cruise dose. I leave the deca in all year around 100mg a week to help with joint issues. When I was 11-16 years old I had juvenile rheumatoid arthritis)

I am planning on starting a cycle with test/mast/primo and leave a base of 100mgs of deca.
Will I have to run the total mg up to 1600mg a week to see results if I am pinning 7 times a week versus 3.5 times as before?

Also a little about me:
I am 35
I go to the gym 5 days a week
I workout with a natural bodybuilder who does a lot of volume but when he isn’t there I revert back to a heavy compound movement and accessories.
My diet is relatively clean but to maintain my weight I have to eat 5-6000 calories a day.
I do not have a colon so food does stay in me very log so I try to eat frequently. (I struggle to gain weight)
I am 5’9” and weigh 190lbs
Goal is 220lbs lean

Some progress pics
1) natural 2019
2) ostarine 2020
3) 250mg test 2021
4) last cycle 2025

LevButlerov · Sunday at 7:53 PM

TAGII said:
Hey guys,
I’m new to the community but I have been cycling now for about 4 years on and off (trt off, not off off). I have been recently doing some research about getting the most out of your gear and have seen a lot of recommendations for daily injections to keep levels more stable (possibly higher?).
The last cycle I just finished about 8 weeks ago, I was running:
600mg Test E
600mg EQ
400mg Deca
These injections were divided up and done EOD.

My thought is, if I pin every day can I get the same results using less gear?

Two weeks ago I started pinning every day with 40mg a day of test e and 15mg a day of deca. (This is my cruise dose. I leave the deca in all year around 100mg a week to help with joint issues. When I was 11-16 years old I had juvenile rheumatoid arthritis)

I am planning on starting a cycle with test/mast/primo and leave a base of 100mgs of deca.
Will I have to run the total mg up to 1600mg a week to see results if I am pinning 7 times a week versus 3.5 times as before?

Also a little about me:
I am 35
I go to the gym 5 days a week
I workout with a natural bodybuilder who does a lot of volume but when he isn’t there I revert back to a heavy compound movement and accessories.
My diet is relatively clean but to maintain my weight I have to eat 5-6000 calories a day.
I do not have a colon so food does stay in me very log so I try to eat frequently. (I struggle to gain weight)
I am 5’9” and weigh 190lbs
Goal is 220lbs lean

Some progress pics
1) natural 2019
2) ostarine 2020
3) 250mg test 2021
4) last cycle 2025

@TAGII first you look amazing

and welcome to the EVO family. Your 2019 to 2025 is like a magazine cover. Love it.

On your question, I like ED or EOD pins for the most part to keep blood levels steady. So yes I would pin ED if you can handle it.

Though I would like to have you start a log asap for the EVO family to fully support you in your journey.
I saw you post in other logs, so you've seen them.

Starting a log is easy, 15min of your time and the base of your post is this thread you can copy the history.
Start a NEW thread with your cruise cycle, test deca, share training diet history and supps and we'll guide you on your journey as an EVO family.

HOW-TO LOG?

To really guide you we need more info from you.
Please share your diet, training, cardio, sleep, supplements etc log with us in a NEW thread, full log journal so our guidance is based on facts you provide.
It will take 15-20 minutes max.
We have 100s of years of experience between us, so you need to post a LOG Journal with your stats (weight,height,age, years training, cycle history) diet, training, cardio, supplement, sleep details. If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.

stevesmi · Sunday at 7:57 PM

TAGII said:
Hey guys,
I’m new to the community but I have been cycling now for about 4 years on and off (trt off, not off off). I have been recently doing some research about getting the most out of your gear and have seen a lot of recommendations for daily injections to keep levels more stable (possibly higher?).
The last cycle I just finished about 8 weeks ago, I was running:
600mg Test E
600mg EQ
400mg Deca
These injections were divided up and done EOD.

My thought is, if I pin every day can I get the same results using less gear?

Two weeks ago I started pinning every day with 40mg a day of test e and 15mg a day of deca. (This is my cruise dose. I leave the deca in all year around 100mg a week to help with joint issues. When I was 11-16 years old I had juvenile rheumatoid arthritis)

I am planning on starting a cycle with test/mast/primo and leave a base of 100mgs of deca.
Will I have to run the total mg up to 1600mg a week to see results if I am pinning 7 times a week versus 3.5 times as before?

Also a little about me:
I am 35
I go to the gym 5 days a week
I workout with a natural bodybuilder who does a lot of volume but when he isn’t there I revert back to a heavy compound movement and accessories.
My diet is relatively clean but to maintain my weight I have to eat 5-6000 calories a day.
I do not have a colon so food does stay in me very log so I try to eat frequently. (I struggle to gain weight)
I am 5’9” and weigh 190lbs
Goal is 220lbs lean

Some progress pics
1) natural 2019
2) ostarine 2020
3) 250mg test 2021
4) last cycle 2025

@TAGII this def can be a contender for a log
my position on this is simple. i BELIEVE in esters. esters were attached to these hormones for a reason. so they could slow release and you could pin less often. Deca for example has a whopping 15-17 day half life. that means that when you inject it after 15-17 days half will still be in your system and so on. so if you inject it weekly you would not even reach peak concentrations for 6-9 weeks later.

TAGII · Sunday at 8:17 PM

LevButlerov said:
@TAGII first you look amazing and welcome to the EVO family. Your 2019 to 2025 is like a magazine cover. Love it.

On your question, I like ED or EOD pins for the most part to keep blood levels steady. So yes I would pin ED if you can handle it.

Though I would like to have you start a log asap for the EVO family to fully support you in your journey.
I saw you post in other logs, so you've seen them.
Starting a log is easy, 15min of your time and the base of your post is this thread you can copy the history.
Start a NEW thread with your cruise cycle, test deca, share training diet history and supps and we'll guide you on your journey as an EVO family.

HOW-TO LOG?

To really guide you we need more info from you.

Please share your diet, training, cardio, sleep, supplements etc log with us in a NEW thread, full log journal so our guidance is based on facts you provide.

It will take 15-20 minutes max.

We have 100s of years of experience between us, so you need to post a LOG Journal with your stats (weight,height,age, years training, cycle history) diet, training, cardio, supplement, sleep details. If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.

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Love the podcast. Listened to it many times on long rides to work.

I will work on getting a log made later this evening.
Thanks!

Mobster · Monday at 1:52 AM

I've NEVER used those amounts. And pinning every day does not change the results.

LevButlerov · Monday at 4:23 AM

TAGII said:
Love the podcast. Listened to it many times on long rides to work.

I will work on getting a log made later this evening.
Thanks!

Waiting on your log update

ROIDDERS · Monday at 7:10 AM

TAGII said:
Hey guys,
I’m new to the community but I have been cycling now for about 4 years on and off (trt off, not off off). I have been recently doing some research about getting the most out of your gear and have seen a lot of recommendations for daily injections to keep levels more stable (possibly higher?).
The last cycle I just finished about 8 weeks ago, I was running:
600mg Test E
600mg EQ
400mg Deca
These injections were divided up and done EOD.

My thought is, if I pin every day can I get the same results using less gear?

Two weeks ago I started pinning every day with 40mg a day of test e and 15mg a day of deca. (This is my cruise dose. I leave the deca in all year around 100mg a week to help with joint issues. When I was 11-16 years old I had juvenile rheumatoid arthritis)

I am planning on starting a cycle with test/mast/primo and leave a base of 100mgs of deca.
Will I have to run the total mg up to 1600mg a week to see results if I am pinning 7 times a week versus 3.5 times as before?

Also a little about me:
I am 35
I go to the gym 5 days a week
I workout with a natural bodybuilder who does a lot of volume but when he isn’t there I revert back to a heavy compound movement and accessories.
My diet is relatively clean but to maintain my weight I have to eat 5-6000 calories a day.
I do not have a colon so food does stay in me very log so I try to eat frequently. (I struggle to gain weight)
I am 5’9” and weigh 190lbs
Goal is 220lbs lean

Some progress pics
1) natural 2019
2) ostarine 2020
3) 250mg test 2021
4) last cycle 2025

@TAGII welcome to the EVO family
you look great already!
Imagine where you will be as this log continues.

Ulter · Monday at 11:40 AM

TAGII said:
Hey guys,
I’m new to the community but I have been cycling now for about 4 years on and off (trt off, not off off). I have been recently doing some research about getting the most out of your gear and have seen a lot of recommendations for daily injections to keep levels more stable (possibly higher?).
The last cycle I just finished about 8 weeks ago, I was running:
600mg Test E
600mg EQ
400mg Deca
These injections were divided up and done EOD.

My thought is, if I pin every day can I get the same results using less gear?

Two weeks ago I started pinning every day with 40mg a day of test e and 15mg a day of deca. (This is my cruise dose. I leave the deca in all year around 100mg a week to help with joint issues. When I was 11-16 years old I had juvenile rheumatoid arthritis)

I am planning on starting a cycle with test/mast/primo and leave a base of 100mgs of deca.
Will I have to run the total mg up to 1600mg a week to see results if I am pinning 7 times a week versus 3.5 times as before?

Also a little about me:
I am 35
I go to the gym 5 days a week
I workout with a natural bodybuilder who does a lot of volume but when he isn’t there I revert back to a heavy compound movement and accessories.
My diet is relatively clean but to maintain my weight I have to eat 5-6000 calories a day.
I do not have a colon so food does stay in me very log so I try to eat frequently. (I struggle to gain weight)
I am 5’9” and weigh 190lbs
Goal is 220lbs lean

Some progress pics
1) natural 2019
2) ostarine 2020
3) 250mg test 2021
4) last cycle 2025

@TAGII i'm most impressed by your slow progress over the course of 6 years.
meaning i'm impressed that you took your time
you didn't try and build rome overnight with a crazy stack
its paid off for you

ceo · Monday at 12:11 PM

TAGII said:
Hey guys,
I’m new to the community but I have been cycling now for about 4 years on and off (trt off, not off off). I have been recently doing some research about getting the most out of your gear and have seen a lot of recommendations for daily injections to keep levels more stable (possibly higher?).
The last cycle I just finished about 8 weeks ago, I was running:
600mg Test E
600mg EQ
400mg Deca
These injections were divided up and done EOD.

My thought is, if I pin every day can I get the same results using less gear?

Two weeks ago I started pinning every day with 40mg a day of test e and 15mg a day of deca. (This is my cruise dose. I leave the deca in all year around 100mg a week to help with joint issues. When I was 11-16 years old I had juvenile rheumatoid arthritis)

I am planning on starting a cycle with test/mast/primo and leave a base of 100mgs of deca.
Will I have to run the total mg up to 1600mg a week to see results if I am pinning 7 times a week versus 3.5 times as before?

Also a little about me:
I am 35
I go to the gym 5 days a week
I workout with a natural bodybuilder who does a lot of volume but when he isn’t there I revert back to a heavy compound movement and accessories.
My diet is relatively clean but to maintain my weight I have to eat 5-6000 calories a day.
I do not have a colon so food does stay in me very log so I try to eat frequently. (I struggle to gain weight)
I am 5’9” and weigh 190lbs
Goal is 220lbs lean

Some progress pics
1) natural 2019
2) ostarine 2020
3) 250mg test 2021
4) last cycle 2025

@TAGII bros you looking good in all pics
and can't believe you not on more gear
you got good response to PED's

TAGII · Monday at 12:53 PM

Ulter said:
@TAGII i'm most impressed by your slow progress over the course of 6 years.
meaning i'm impressed that you took your time
you didn't try and build rome overnight with a crazy stack
its paid off for you

Thanks!
With my prior health issues, I wanted to take it slow and use as little as possible to grow and keep side effects to a minimum.
Still trying to get over 200lbs lean. I would love to see 220lbs!

2Thick · Monday at 3:10 PM

TAGII said:
Hey guys,
I’m new to the community but I have been cycling now for about 4 years on and off (trt off, not off off). I have been recently doing some research about getting the most out of your gear and have seen a lot of recommendations for daily injections to keep levels more stable (possibly higher?).
The last cycle I just finished about 8 weeks ago, I was running:
600mg Test E
600mg EQ
400mg Deca
These injections were divided up and done EOD.

My thought is, if I pin every day can I get the same results using less gear?

Two weeks ago I started pinning every day with 40mg a day of test e and 15mg a day of deca. (This is my cruise dose. I leave the deca in all year around 100mg a week to help with joint issues. When I was 11-16 years old I had juvenile rheumatoid arthritis)

I am planning on starting a cycle with test/mast/primo and leave a base of 100mgs of deca.
Will I have to run the total mg up to 1600mg a week to see results if I am pinning 7 times a week versus 3.5 times as before?

Also a little about me:
I am 35
I go to the gym 5 days a week
I workout with a natural bodybuilder who does a lot of volume but when he isn’t there I revert back to a heavy compound movement and accessories.
My diet is relatively clean but to maintain my weight I have to eat 5-6000 calories a day.
I do not have a colon so food does stay in me very log so I try to eat frequently. (I struggle to gain weight)
I am 5’9” and weigh 190lbs
Goal is 220lbs lean

Some progress pics
1) natural 2019
2) ostarine 2020
3) 250mg test 2021
4) last cycle 2025

nice job on this
progress pics look outstanding
Now that you have your log set up, imagine the type of results you can get going forward.

@TAGII

Ulter · 2025-06-24T06:51:19-0400

TAGII said:
Thanks!
With my prior health issues, I wanted to take it slow and use as little as possible to grow and keep side effects to a minimum.
Still trying to get over 200lbs lean. I would love to see 220lbs!

yeah health issues are always an issue
i've dealt with a lot of personal things mostly
problems with ex wife and daughter

Pigsy · 2025-06-24T10:16:00-0400

I do ED pinning wether blasting or cruising. Just feel better for doing it. It would work with less frequent injections, but didn't feel as good

TAGII · 2025-06-24T10:21:50-0400

Pigsy said:
I do ED pinning wether blasting or cruising. Just feel better for doing it. It would work with less frequent injections, but didn't feel as good

Since I have started doing ED pins. It is a whole lot less stressful (yes! I am a baby and don’t like needles… I was stuck a lot as a kid and just not a fond memory lol). ED with a half inch slin pin is super easy, convenient, and painless.

Pigsy · 2025-06-24T10:24:55-0400

TAGII said:
Since I have started doing ED pins. It is a whole lot less stressful (yes! I am a baby and don’t like needles… I was stuck a lot as a kid and just not a fond memory lol). ED with a half inch slin pin is super easy, convenient, and painless.

Exactly how I do it.

Mobster · 2025-06-24T12:14:20-0400

TAGII said:
Since I have started doing ED pins. It is a whole lot less stressful (yes! I am a baby and don’t like needles… I was stuck a lot as a kid and just not a fond memory lol). ED with a half inch slin pin is super easy, convenient, and painless.

This would be the uptick of subq and daily and the best reasoning.

There are those that don't mind frequent pinning but I've yet to see ANY evidence to say the results are better

TAGII · 2025-06-24T15:35:51-0400

So far I have been doing shallow intramuscular in lean areas like delta, traps, lats. Seems to be working well.

ballin2504 · 2025-06-24T18:21:47-0400

TAGII said:
So far I have been doing shallow intramuscular in lean areas like delta, traps, lats. Seems to be working well.

I think it would definitely help

LevButlerov · 2025-06-24T19:49:40-0400

TAGII said:
Since I have started doing ED pins. It is a whole lot less stressful (yes! I am a baby and don’t like needles… I was stuck a lot as a kid and just not a fond memory lol). ED with a half inch slin pin is super easy, convenient, and painless.

TAGII said:
So far I have been doing shallow intramuscular in lean areas like delta, traps, lats. Seems to be working well.

Shallow IM works but in small muscles like delts and arms and lats, dont pin your glutes that way. @TAGII

TAGII · 2025-06-24T20:16:53-0400

LevButlerov said:
Shallow IM works but in small muscles like delts and arms and lats, dont pin your glutes that way. @TAGII

Definitely not! I usually use an inch and a half for glutes but never go shorter than an inch!

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