First cycle and estrogen

[goldenasis2086]

Hello, I am currently ramping up to 500mg a week test enanthate from 200 mg test enanthate which I find for trt purposes seems to keep me in a good spot. My question is this, last time before starting my ramp up 200 mg to 350mg for 4 weeks then 500mg for 6-8 weeks I did blood work and my estrodial came back at 120 pnmol/l, should I do more bloodwork once at 500mg regardless if I am symptom free or wait for symptoms to come on to use an ai.

Thanks and I’m sure this would be a more newbie question so I appreciate your patience.

 

[Pigsy]

Hello, I am currently ramping up to 500mg a week test enanthate from 200 mg test enanthate which I find for trt purposes seems to keep me in a good spot. My question is this, last time before starting my ramp up 200 mg to 350mg for 4 weeks then 500mg for 6-8 weeks I did blood work and my estrodial came back at 120 pnmol/l, should I do more bloodwork once at 500mg regardless if I am symptom free or wait for symptoms to come on to use an ai.

Thanks and I’m sure this would be a more newbie question so I appreciate your patience.

Do you have an AI on hand

 

[goldenasis2086]

I have some anastrazole that was given to me by a trt clinic about a year ago. I feel that’s overkill and I can order something else if needed and get it quickly as I have no symptoms at all yet. Should I dose an ai or maybe run another compound along side the test?

 

[rizzlekdizzle]

At 500mg Test you should run an AI at least twice a week on injection days.
I wouldn't bother ramping up if you are used to 200mg/week just go straight for 500mg and enjoy the full dose for the cycle.
If its your first cycle keep in T only, otherwise a nice addition would be anavar in the last 6 weeks.

 

[goldenasis2086]

At 500mg Test you should run an AI at least twice a week on injection days.
I wouldn't bother ramping up if you are used to 200mg/week just go straight for 500mg and enjoy the full dose for the cycle.
If its your first cycle keep in T only, otherwise a nice addition would be anavar in the last 6 weeks.

Okay would there be an ai recommendation as to not totally crush my estrogen and dosage?

 

[rizzlekdizzle]

Use half a tab of aromasin twice a week bro.

 

[Allupfromhere]

If money isnt an issue why not do blood work anyway? Gives you a better idead where you at regardless of implications or not.
I agree with @rizzlekdizzle though i wouldnt bother going to 350 then 500. Just go straight to 500 12.5mg aromasin on pin days run bloods if you need (i personally still would if this is your first time at that dose) and enjoy the cycle.

 

[goldenasis2086]

If money isnt an issue why not do blood work anyway? Gives you a better idead where you at regardless of implications or not.
I agree with @rizzlekdizzle though i wouldnt bother going to 350 then 500. Just go straight to 500 12.5mg aromasin on pin days run bloods if you need (i personally still would if this is your first time at that dose) and enjoy the cycle.

I plan on doing bloodwork again in three to four weeks once on 500mg I just don’t want to chase numbers on the blood panel and I also want to be prepared is all. I have been on 350mg going into the end of the fourth week with zero pyshical side effects. And my source is from the approved canadien source list so fair to say it’s also legit product. Thanks everyone for the great info.

 

[LevButlerov]

Hello, I am currently ramping up to 500mg a week test enanthate from 200 mg test enanthate which I find for trt purposes seems to keep me in a good spot. My question is this, last time before starting my ramp up 200 mg to 350mg for 4 weeks then 500mg for 6-8 weeks I did blood work and my estrodial came back at 120 pnmol/l, should I do more bloodwork once at 500mg regardless if I am symptom free or wait for symptoms to come on to use an ai.

Thanks and I’m sure this would be a more newbie question so I appreciate your patience.

I have some anastrazole that was given to me by a trt clinic about a year ago. I feel that’s overkill and I can order something else if needed and get it quickly as I have no symptoms at all yet. Should I dose an ai or maybe run another compound along side the test?

Okay would there be an ai recommendation as to not totally crush my estrogen and dosage?

I plan on doing bloodwork again in three to four weeks once on 500mg I just don’t want to chase numbers on the blood panel and I also want to be prepared is all. I have been on 350mg going into the end of the fourth week with zero pyshical side effects. And my source is from the approved canadien source list so fair to say it’s also legit product. Thanks everyone for the great info.

welcome to the EVO family @goldenasis2086
Good you’re thinking ahead about e2 and not just chasing numbers.
Stay patient and wait bloodwork confirmation before touching an AI since your e2 at 120 pmol is fine and you’re symptom free.

Before you move higher or add compounds start a proper log so we can see your full layout over weeks. We need your training split, macros, sleep, and how you respond on 500mg to guide next moves safely, logs make a huge difference for cycle support and AI timing. It will take you about 15min to start a log easy.

HOW-TO LOG?

Why is a Log Journal important?

• Doing a log will actually help you way more than just dropping random updates. When you lay it all out week by week you start to see patterns in your body that you won’t catch otherwise.
• Other guys here run logs all the time and there’s no privacy issue, nobody is asking for your name or anything personal, it is just training, diet, and how the compound feels.
• The feedback you get is also way better because people can follow along and spot things you might miss. It also helps the next guy who is thinking about running the same compound so you are giving back while you learn.
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[HarleyGuy]

500mg for 6-8 weeks I did blood work and my estrodial came back at 120 pnmol/l

You should be fine then just have an AI on hand.

Start a log and that will let us follow you you can post symptoms on here and all the details of your diet/training/shots etc. I think I see Lev above gave you the "How to Log" so I highly recommend that it worked wonders for me.

 

[Mobster]

Ideally you'd wait then monitor on cycle

 

[stevesmi]

Hello, I am currently ramping up to 500mg a week test enanthate from 200 mg test enanthate which I find for trt purposes seems to keep me in a good spot. My question is this, last time before starting my ramp up 200 mg to 350mg for 4 weeks then 500mg for 6-8 weeks I did blood work and my estrodial came back at 120 pnmol/l, should I do more bloodwork once at 500mg regardless if I am symptom free or wait for symptoms to come on to use an ai.

Thanks and I’m sure this would be a more newbie question so I appreciate your patience.

@goldenasis2086 the issue with estrogen. is once you start getting sides that means it got way out of control. so bear that in mind

 

[HarleyGuy]

@goldenasis2086 the issue with estrogen. is once you start getting sides that means it got way out of control. so bear that in mind

He seems to be a low aromatizer but this is 100% true. Sucks to play catch up with Letro or A-dex after the fact.

 

[stevesmi]

He seems to be a low aromatizer but this is 100% true. Sucks to play catch up with Letro or A-dex after the fact.

yeah catch up is no fun been there and done that

 

[goldenasis2086]

Thanks for the info everyone much appreciated I’m going to post a log

 

[ceo]

Hello, I am currently ramping up to 500mg a week test enanthate from 200 mg test enanthate which I find for trt purposes seems to keep me in a good spot. My question is this, last time before starting my ramp up 200 mg to 350mg for 4 weeks then 500mg for 6-8 weeks I did blood work and my estrodial came back at 120 pnmol/l, should I do more bloodwork once at 500mg regardless if I am symptom free or wait for symptoms to come on to use an ai.

Thanks and I’m sure this would be a more newbie question so I appreciate your patience.

Bros. It's always a good idea to keep your estrogen balanced. It can definitely move though. Quickly. I've seen estrogen change within a couple days.

 

[Ulter]

Thanks for the info everyone much appreciated I’m going to post a log

Yes for sure. And also make sure you check out everyone else's Log too. You can see our logs in our signature. I have one going myself.

 

[2Thick]

I have some anastrazole that was given to me by a trt clinic about a year ago. I feel that’s overkill and I can order something else if needed and get it quickly as I have no symptoms at all yet. Should I dose an ai or maybe run another compound along side the test?

that is an age old question. some people can get away with no AI ever. some people have issues even on a light trt. everyone is different

 

[goldenasis2086]

that is an age old question. some people can get away with no AI ever. some people have issues even on a light trt. everyone is different

I seem to be okay, zero physical side effects at all on my dose that I can tell. So hopefully that stays the same at 500mg.

 

[2Thick]

I seem to be okay, zero physical side effects at all on my dose that I can tell. So hopefully that stays the same at 500mg.

by the time you feel the sides though you might not be okay

 

[goldenasis2086]

by the time you feel the sides though you might not be okay

Yeah I hear that hence why wanted to get some advice for sure.

 

[2Thick]

Yeah I hear that hence why wanted to get some advice for sure.

bottom line is keep an eye on bloods until you get a sense of how your body is

 

[ROIDDERS]

Hello, I am currently ramping up to 500mg a week test enanthate from 200 mg test enanthate which I find for trt purposes seems to keep me in a good spot. My question is this, last time before starting my ramp up 200 mg to 350mg for 4 weeks then 500mg for 6-8 weeks I did blood work and my estrodial came back at 120 pnmol/l, should I do more bloodwork once at 500mg regardless if I am symptom free or wait for symptoms to come on to use an ai.

Thanks and I’m sure this would be a more newbie question so I appreciate your patience.

i would always keep an AI on hand. that is the general rule

 

[ballin2504]

Make sure you have aromasin