Approved Log First Cycle Test Only Log

[SDlifts]

Hello All,

Looking to start my first testosterone only cycle and seek guidance from you experts. Im 30yrs old, I've been training and researching AAS for several years and finally decided to order my first cycle. I ordered a full cycle including ancillaries from one of the board sponsors. I plan on starting a pre cycle log until my shipment arrives. Here is the cycle I have planned so far as well as my stats.

Stats

30yrs old
Height 5'6
Weight 164lbs
BF% 11-12%

Experience

Zero AAS Experience
Lifting weights on and off since high school
Wrestled and boxed for 5+yrs
Surfing 5yrs

Planned Cycle
Would like some input and guidance on running an AI from the beginning, and PCT.

Week 1-12 Testosterone Enanthate 400mg (200mg injected twice per week)
Week 1-12 Aromasin 6.25mg E3D (will increase if necessary)
Week 12-14 HCG 500iu EOD
Week 15-19 PCT
Clomid 50/50/25/25/12.5
Nolva 40/20/20/20/10

Supplements
Creatine Monohydrate
ON Amino Energy
N2Guard (5 Caps ED)
Psyllium Husk
Chacon Maca Root


Training
Most sets 8-10 rep range unless stated otherwise
Exercises with a * are an alternate exercise

Cardio (One of the following 2+ times per week.)
Surf 1-2hrs
Run 3mi <24mins
Walk 3+ miles

Leg day 1

Pendulum squat 4 sets 410
Leg adductor 3 sets 180
Leg abductor 3 sets 110 or 11
Leg extensions 3 sets 150
Calf raises 3 sets 135
Front calf raise 3 sets 75
Calf raise machine 3 sets 140

Chest / Tricep

Flat bench 4 sets 225
Bb decline 4 sets 225
DB Incline 4 sets 75s
Incline Flys 3 sets 55s
*Wide press machine 3 sets 230
*Cable chest flys 3 sets 120

Dip 3 sets machine 205
*Dips 3 sets 60s
Close grip bench 3 sets 135
Cable pulldowns 3 sets 120 (77 other)
Cable standing skull crusher 3 sets 50

Back day

Pull ups 3 sets warmup
Deadlift 4 sets 6-8 reps 315
Bb bent over row 4sets 165
Lat pull downs wide 4 sets 209
Lat pull downs narrow 4 sets 193
Seated row 3 sets 143
*Iso high row machine 3 sets 230

Leg day 2

Leg press 4 sets 270
Leg curls 3 sets 110
Dumbbell RDLs 3 sets 75s
Seated Calf raises 3 sets 135
Front calf raise 3 sets 75
Standing Calf raise machine 3 sets 140

Shoulder

Standing Front Military press 3 sets 135
Standing Behind Head Military press 3 sets 135
Lateral raises 4 sets 8-10 25
Upright Rows 4 sets 8-10 105
Cable Facepulls 4 sets 77 / 140
DB / BB Shrugs 4 sets 90s / 185
*Reverse flys 4 sets 8-10 17s
*Reverse pec dec machine 3 sets 140lbs
*Seated shoulder press blk/red 3 sets 140
*Megamass incline shldr press 3 sets 90
*Atlantis delt machine 3 sets 125lbs

Bicep

Reverse grip ez preacher 3 sets 85
Wide grip ez preacher 3 sets 105
Narrow grip ez preacher 3 sets 105
Reverse forearm ez curls 3 sets 85 go up
*Single hand db forearm curls 3 sets 32.5
*Hammer curls 3 sets 42.5

Blood Work
Unfortunately the following results were the only tests my medical provider was willing to order. I plan on taking another blood test right before my cycle starts, as well as another test 4-5 weeks in. I do consume plenty of butter and animal fats so my cholesterol levels are slightly elevated, I am not too concerned with these levels however I have started to take psyllium husk and 5 caps ED of n2guard in hopes that it lowers my lipids before my cycle starts.

Labs taken less than a month ago

BP 105/60

HBA1C% 5.3
Cholesterol 223
LDL 162
HDL 75
Creatinine 1.03
ALT 33
Glucose 75
TSH .83
Testosterone 783

Diet

 

[willipede]

You won't know how much ai you need unless you get bloods done, you may need none

I would start at something like 250-300mg per week

Hcg 200iu-250iu mon, wed, fri

You will have a bit of higher e2 due to the hcg but that can be managed

Get bloods at week 4 to check e2 ect. Then you can bring the dose of Test E up a bit if needed

 

[SDlifts]

You won't know how much ai you need unless you get bloods done, you may need none

I would start at something like 250-300mg per week

Hcg 200iu-250iu mon, wed, fri

You will have a bit of higher e2 due to the hcg but that can be managed

Get bloods at week 4 to check e2 ect. Then you can bring the dose of Test E up a bit if needed

Sounds good so ill start at 250-300mg for the first month. As far as the HCG are you recommending lowering the dose for those 2-3 weeks?

 

[willipede]

I use it while on cycle at 200iu mon-wed-fri.

What this does is stops your testicle atrophying in the first place, so they keep there size the whole way through also they will provide some testosterone and e2 thoughout the cycle

I prefer this over running it for a short period at the end.

Also you want to wait atleast 4-5 weeks after your last shot of test e to start pct. As it does not work properly if you still have AAS in your system.

Other than that looks pretty good

 

[SDlifts]

I use it while on cycle at 200iu mon-wed-fri.

What this does is stops your testicle atrophying in the first place, so they keep there size the whole way through also they will provide some testosterone and e2 thoughout the cycle

I prefer this over running it for a short period at the end.

Also you want to wait atleast 4-5 weeks after your last shot of test e to start pct. As it does not work properly if you still have AAS in your system.

Other than that looks pretty good

Do you inject the hcg and test separately?

And for the window between the last shot and pct do you continue hcg as well?

 

[willipede]

Do you inject the hcg and test separately?

And for the window between the last shot and pct do you continue hcg as well?

Yes hcg is reconstituted with bacteriostatic water, test is an oil. Never mix oils and water based compounds as high risk of infection.

Hcg can be pinned with an insulin needles subq into fat

You can continue hcg up up until 7 days before pct as it has a short half

 

[SDlifts]

Worked out back today. Here are my meals and exercises for the day.

Cardio 4mi walk

Back day

Pull ups 3 sets warmup

Deadlift 3 sets 6-8 reps 315

Bb bent over row 3 sets 165

Lat pull downs wide 3 sets 209

Lat pull downs narrow 3 sets 193

Seated row 3 sets 165

 

[LevButlerov]

Hello All,

Looking to start my first testosterone only cycle and seek guidance from you experts. Im 30yrs old, I've been training and researching AAS for several years and finally decided to order my first cycle. I ordered a full cycle including ancillaries from one of the board sponsors. I plan on starting a pre cycle log until my shipment arrives. Here is the cycle I have planned so far as well as my stats.

Stats

30yrs old
Height 5'6
Weight 164lbs
BF% 11-12%

Experience

Zero AAS Experience
Lifting weights on and off since high school
Wrestled and boxed for 5+yrs
Surfing 5yrs

Planned Cycle
Would like some input and guidance on running an AI from the beginning, and PCT.

Week 1-12 Testosterone Enanthate 400mg (200mg injected twice per week)
Week 1-12 Aromasin 6.25mg E3D (will increase if necessary)
Week 12-14 HCG 500iu EOD
Week 15-19 PCT
Clomid 50/50/25/25/12.5
Nolva 40/20/20/20/10

Supplements
Creatine Monohydrate
ON Amino Energy
N2Guard (5 Caps ED)
Psyllium Husk
Chacon Maca Root


Training
Most sets 8-10 rep range unless stated otherwise
Exercises with a * are an alternate exercise

Cardio (One of the following 2+ times per week.)
Surf 1-2hrs
Run 3mi <24mins
Walk 3+ miles

Leg day 1

Pendulum squat 4 sets 410
Leg adductor 3 sets 180
Leg abductor 3 sets 110 or 11
Leg extensions 3 sets 150
Calf raises 3 sets 135
Front calf raise 3 sets 75
Calf raise machine 3 sets 140

Chest / Tricep

Flat bench 4 sets 225
Bb decline 4 sets 225
DB Incline 4 sets 75s
Incline Flys 3 sets 55s
*Wide press machine 3 sets 230
*Cable chest flys 3 sets 120

Dip 3 sets machine 205
*Dips 3 sets 60s
Close grip bench 3 sets 135
Cable pulldowns 3 sets 120 (77 other)
Cable standing skull crusher 3 sets 50

Back day

Pull ups 3 sets warmup
Deadlift 4 sets 6-8 reps 315
Bb bent over row 4sets 165
Lat pull downs wide 4 sets 209
Lat pull downs narrow 4 sets 193
Seated row 3 sets 143
*Iso high row machine 3 sets 230

Leg day 2

Leg press 4 sets 270
Leg curls 3 sets 110
Dumbbell RDLs 3 sets 75s
Seated Calf raises 3 sets 135
Front calf raise 3 sets 75
Standing Calf raise machine 3 sets 140

Shoulder

Standing Front Military press 3 sets 135
Standing Behind Head Military press 3 sets 135
Lateral raises 4 sets 8-10 25
Upright Rows 4 sets 8-10 105
Cable Facepulls 4 sets 77 / 140
DB / BB Shrugs 4 sets 90s / 185
*Reverse flys 4 sets 8-10 17s
*Reverse pec dec machine 3 sets 140lbs
*Seated shoulder press blk/red 3 sets 140
*Megamass incline shldr press 3 sets 90
*Atlantis delt machine 3 sets 125lbs

Bicep

Reverse grip ez preacher 3 sets 85
Wide grip ez preacher 3 sets 105
Narrow grip ez preacher 3 sets 105
Reverse forearm ez curls 3 sets 85 go up
*Single hand db forearm curls 3 sets 32.5
*Hammer curls 3 sets 42.5

Blood Work
Unfortunately the following results were the only tests my medical provider was willing to order. I plan on taking another blood test right before my cycle starts, as well as another test 4-5 weeks in. I do consume plenty of butter and animal fats so my cholesterol levels are slightly elevated, I am not too concerned with these levels however I have started to take psyllium husk and 5 caps ED of n2guard in hopes that it lowers my lipids before my cycle starts.

Labs taken less than a month ago

BP 105/60

HBA1C% 5.3
Cholesterol 223
LDL 162
HDL 75
Creatinine 1.03
ALT 33
Glucose 75
TSH .83
Testosterone 783

Diet



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Worked out back today. Here are my meals and exercises for the day.

Cardio 4mi walk

Back day

Pull ups 3 sets warmup

Deadlift 3 sets 6-8 reps 315

Bb bent over row 3 sets 165

Lat pull downs wide 3 sets 209

Lat pull downs narrow 3 sets 193

Seated row 3 sets 165

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@SDlifts welcome now FULLY openly to the EVO family you are now one of us.

Your pics look great, you have a really tight base, great abs too!

Experience

Zero AAS Experience
Lifting weights on and off since high school
Wrestled and boxed for 5+yrs
Surfing 5yrs

Planned Cycle
Would like some input and guidance on running an AI from the beginning, and PCT.

Week 1-12 Testosterone Enanthate 400mg (200mg injected twice per week)
Week 1-12 Aromasin 6.25mg E3D (will increase if necessary)
Week 12-14 HCG 500iu EOD
Week 15-19 PCT
Clomid 50/50/25/25/12.5
Nolva 40/20/20/20/10

Since you have no experience, I would start the cycle with 200mgs/week for 3-4 weeks before moving up in dose.
Aromasin 6.25mgs mon/fri
But DROP the HCG its not needed for you.

I like your food and training shares, keep sharing, you change training right? weights? reps?

Please share more day to day information with us.

Diet, Training, Cardio
Diet, please share foods and meals and when you eat them, macros would be good
Training, please share actual exercises reps sets and weights, as you go especially get stronger
cardio how much do you do? when etc
If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.

supplements
what digestive supps you use?
digestive enzymes?
multis?
probiotics?
psyllium husk?

pictures
please share pictures of you face blurred (every 1-2 weeks)
pics of your meals as you go
pics of your training as you go
pics of your supps
pics of your gear

eBooks
download our eBooks and learn more about cycling:
https://irongorillas.com

Podcast
are you listening to our podcast? if not, you should:
https://www.evolutionary.org/podcasts/

thank you and share more

You won't know how much ai you need unless you get bloods done, you may need none

bad advice to not have him use an ai.

 

[willipede]

bad advice to not have him use an ai.

Id 100% disagree with you fully.

There's 0 reason to use an AI from week 1 it will just crush e2

Your don't get to full blood saturation until week 4, where may potentially need an AI, do bloods. Results come back in a day or 2.

Then you can decide if AI is even needed on fairly low dose of test. Most people are going to be okay on 250mg of test

Then with your AI which you already have on hand you may or may not need.

I say your wrong here and I'm fully prepared to die on this hill.

I think there's nothing worse than people on here prescribing AIs without bloodwork to confirm

 

[LevButlerov]

Id 100% disagree with you fully.

There's 0 reason to use an AI from week 1 it will just crush e2

Your don't get to full blood saturation until week 4, where may potentially need an AI, do bloods. Results come back in a day or 2.

Then you can decide if AI is even needed on fairly low dose of test. Most people are going to be okay on 250mg of test

Then with your AI which you already have on hand you may or may not need.

I say your wrong here and I'm fully prepared to die on this hill.

I think there's nothing worse than people on here prescribing AIs without bloodwork to confirm

@willipede no need to diet on the hill lol relax.

There is nothing worse than people not prescribing an Ai to a guy going into 400mgs of testosterone either.d
I've seen enough bloods to know majority 95%+ of users will need an Ai.

 

[willipede]

@LevButlerov I did say to use 250-300mgs and get bloods done at week for assess e2 ect.

Add AI if needed or can bump up further if needed/bloods allow

 

[Snayaz]

I also agree, it’s not a wise choice To just throw an ai to a new gainer on gear. Bloods pre then during will give the initial result that if he will need an ai.

Always do pre bloods to guide as your base line for the cycle and then 4 to 6 weeks after again where you can see what’s needs to be addressed and what your body accepts with the aas.

 

[willipede]

Yes please get pre-cycle bloods. This is such an important thing that people miss. This gives you a baseline to compare to when your on cycle and after a pct.

 

[SDlifts]

Thanks for all of the advice so far guys. I will be getting bloods before I start my cycle. Ill probably hold off on the AI until the month mark when I get bloods again unless I experience sides. I was really hoping to use HCG at the end to help the recovery process.

Week 1-4 Testosterone Enanthate 300mg (150mg injected twice per week)
Week 4 Labs
Week 4-12 Testosterone Enanthate 400mg
Week 12-14 HCG 500iu subq EOD ???
Week 15-19 PCT
Clomid 50/50/25/25/12.5
Nolva 40/20/20/20/10

 

[SDlifts]

@SDlifts welcome now FULLY openly to the EVO family you are now one of us.

Your pics look great, you have a really tight base, great abs too!


Since you have no experience, I would start the cycle with 200mgs/week for 3-4 weeks before moving up in dose.
Aromasin 6.25mgs mon/fri
But DROP the HCG its not needed for you.

I like your food and training shares, keep sharing, you change training right? weights? reps?

Please share more day to day information with us.

Diet, Training, Cardio
Diet, please share foods and meals and when you eat them, macros would be good
Training, please share actual exercises reps sets and weights, as you go especially get stronger
cardio how much do you do? when etc
If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.

supplements
what digestive supps you use?
digestive enzymes?
multis?
probiotics?
psyllium husk?

pictures
please share pictures of you face blurred (every 1-2 weeks)
pics of your meals as you go
pics of your training as you go
pics of your supps
pics of your gear

eBooks
download our eBooks and learn more about cycling:
https://irongorillas.com

Podcast
are you listening to our podcast? if not, you should:
https://www.evolutionary.org/podcasts/

thank you and share more


bad advice to not have him use an ai.

Thank you for the welcome! are there any cons to running HCG to prevent / help reverse atrophy

 

[SDlifts]

Here are my workouts and meals for today guys.

Shoulder

Standing BB Front Military press 3 sets 135
Standing Smith Behind Head Military press 3 sets 135
Lateral raises 3 sets 8-10 25
Upright Rows 3 sets 8-10 105
Cable Facepulls 4 sets 150
DB / BB Shrugs 4 sets 185

 

[willipede]

Thank you for the welcome! are there any cons to running HCG to prevent / help reverse atrophy

People say its a waste of money, I prefer to use if for ease of mind as im young 26 with no kids. I know there's still risks but it helps me sleep at night

You will have slightly elevated e2 from it due to the fact that it forces production of more test which can aromatise

I use it on cycle at 200 Mon, Wed, fri. My testicles are 80-90% of there off cycle size so it definitely helps with slowing atrophy

I prefer to do it this way, others will do higher doses starting at the end of there cycle before pct

 

[Mobster]

My preference has always been to ruin an AI from the start. I don't understand waiting until there's an issue

 

[willipede]

My preference has always been to ruin an AI from the start. I don't understand waiting until there's an issue

Just the way an ester works no reason to run AI from day 1

Not saturated until ~week 4. Get bloods done, results back in a day or 2.

If e2 high you now know how much you aromatise instead of blindly throwing an AI at everything

A doctor doesn't give out AI for TRT clients so should we not be using the best practices as well

This is not the same as blasting 800mgs of test and knowing you'll need AI no matter what

 

[stevesmi]

Hello All,

Looking to start my first testosterone only cycle and seek guidance from you experts. Im 30yrs old, I've been training and researching AAS for several years and finally decided to order my first cycle. I ordered a full cycle including ancillaries from one of the board sponsors. I plan on starting a pre cycle log until my shipment arrives. Here is the cycle I have planned so far as well as my stats.

Stats

30yrs old
Height 5'6
Weight 164lbs
BF% 11-12%

Experience

Zero AAS Experience
Lifting weights on and off since high school
Wrestled and boxed for 5+yrs
Surfing 5yrs

Planned Cycle
Would like some input and guidance on running an AI from the beginning, and PCT.

Week 1-12 Testosterone Enanthate 400mg (200mg injected twice per week)
Week 1-12 Aromasin 6.25mg E3D (will increase if necessary)
Week 12-14 HCG 500iu EOD
Week 15-19 PCT
Clomid 50/50/25/25/12.5
Nolva 40/20/20/20/10

Supplements
Creatine Monohydrate
ON Amino Energy
N2Guard (5 Caps ED)
Psyllium Husk
Chacon Maca Root


Training
Most sets 8-10 rep range unless stated otherwise
Exercises with a * are an alternate exercise

Cardio (One of the following 2+ times per week.)
Surf 1-2hrs
Run 3mi <24mins
Walk 3+ miles

Leg day 1

Pendulum squat 4 sets 410
Leg adductor 3 sets 180
Leg abductor 3 sets 110 or 11
Leg extensions 3 sets 150
Calf raises 3 sets 135
Front calf raise 3 sets 75
Calf raise machine 3 sets 140

Chest / Tricep

Flat bench 4 sets 225
Bb decline 4 sets 225
DB Incline 4 sets 75s
Incline Flys 3 sets 55s
*Wide press machine 3 sets 230
*Cable chest flys 3 sets 120

Dip 3 sets machine 205
*Dips 3 sets 60s
Close grip bench 3 sets 135
Cable pulldowns 3 sets 120 (77 other)
Cable standing skull crusher 3 sets 50

Back day

Pull ups 3 sets warmup
Deadlift 4 sets 6-8 reps 315
Bb bent over row 4sets 165
Lat pull downs wide 4 sets 209
Lat pull downs narrow 4 sets 193
Seated row 3 sets 143
*Iso high row machine 3 sets 230

Leg day 2

Leg press 4 sets 270
Leg curls 3 sets 110
Dumbbell RDLs 3 sets 75s
Seated Calf raises 3 sets 135
Front calf raise 3 sets 75
Standing Calf raise machine 3 sets 140

Shoulder

Standing Front Military press 3 sets 135
Standing Behind Head Military press 3 sets 135
Lateral raises 4 sets 8-10 25
Upright Rows 4 sets 8-10 105
Cable Facepulls 4 sets 77 / 140
DB / BB Shrugs 4 sets 90s / 185
*Reverse flys 4 sets 8-10 17s
*Reverse pec dec machine 3 sets 140lbs
*Seated shoulder press blk/red 3 sets 140
*Megamass incline shldr press 3 sets 90
*Atlantis delt machine 3 sets 125lbs

Bicep

Reverse grip ez preacher 3 sets 85
Wide grip ez preacher 3 sets 105
Narrow grip ez preacher 3 sets 105
Reverse forearm ez curls 3 sets 85 go up
*Single hand db forearm curls 3 sets 32.5
*Hammer curls 3 sets 42.5

Blood Work
Unfortunately the following results were the only tests my medical provider was willing to order. I plan on taking another blood test right before my cycle starts, as well as another test 4-5 weeks in. I do consume plenty of butter and animal fats so my cholesterol levels are slightly elevated, I am not too concerned with these levels however I have started to take psyllium husk and 5 caps ED of n2guard in hopes that it lowers my lipids before my cycle starts.

Labs taken less than a month ago

BP 105/60

HBA1C% 5.3
Cholesterol 223
LDL 162
HDL 75
Creatinine 1.03
ALT 33
Glucose 75
TSH .83
Testosterone 783

Diet



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@SDlifts

Wow, this is a hell of a star to this one. You laid out everything for us, including pictures. Now let's make sure we get you in Prime shape.