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Had really good sleep last night, still really tired today but so much better than yesterday. Went and did my bloods today aswell so should have the results within 24-48 hours. I switched close grip lat pulldowns to the plate loaded lat puldown and I feel much much stronger with it
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Bro great workout and that sleep...amazing! You're making some serious progress on that front. Each time you post your sleep log it keeps getting better and better. I think once that's dialed in proper you're going to feel like a whole new man. Stick with it bro!
 
Bro great workout and that sleep...amazing! You're making some serious progress on that front. Each time you post your sleep log it keeps getting better and better. I think once that's dialed in proper you're going to feel like a whole new man. Stick with it bro!
Definitly brother, slow and steady progress but still better then no progress at all
 
your estrogen is way too high imo @Eheoew

what are you doing for e2 now?

and how about rest of bloods?

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@LevButlerov e2 is on the higher end but if @Eheoew isn't experiencing any side effects from its elevation then it's not such a bad thing. e2 plays a critical role in the expression of IGF-1 from GH, which is one of the main drivers of P13K, M-TOR and so driving MPS and Satellite Cell Proliferation

e2 is also neuroprotective and plays an important role in organ health.

Lamens

High e2 + no symptoms = more gains and better health
 
@LevButlerov e2 is on the higher end but if @Eheoew isn't experiencing any side effects from its elevation then it's not such a bad thing. e2 plays a critical role in the expression of IGF-1 from GH, which is one of the main drivers of P13K, M-TOR and so driving MPS and Satellite Cell Proliferation

e2 is also neuroprotective and plays an important role in organ health.

Lamens

High e2 + no symptoms = more gains and better health
what do you think? that high you dont think we should worry? I would discuss this very interesting @R.AP
 
@LevButlerov e2 is on the higher end but if @Eheoew isn't experiencing any side effects from its elevation then it's not such a bad thing. e2 plays a critical role in the expression of IGF-1 from GH, which is one of the main drivers of P13K, M-TOR and so driving MPS and Satellite Cell Proliferation

e2 is also neuroprotective and plays an important role in organ health.

Lamens

High e2 + no symptoms = more gains and better health
what do you think? that high you dont think we should worry? I would discuss this very interesting @R.AP
I got gyno which seems to be getting worse. What could I be doing to reduce it?
I was taking 2mg arimidex per week before but have dropped down to 1mg per week, should I go back upto 2mg per week? Add in primo or eq?
 
Sleep was extremely good last night however I was still very fatigued today. Went to the mirror this morning and seen my abs better then I ever have before. I may increase calories.

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I got gyno which seems to be getting worse. What could I be doing to reduce it?
I was taking 2mg arimidex per week before but have dropped down to 1mg per week, should I go back upto 2mg per week? Add in primo or eq?
You have pics of the gyno? @Eheoew share first
 
I got gyno which seems to be getting worse. What could I be doing to reduce it?
I was taking 2mg arimidex per week before but have dropped down to 1mg per week, should I go back upto 2mg per week? Add in primo or eq?
Once the tissue has developed an ai will only further control the converting e2. Tamoxifen is needed if you want to reduce the developed gyno.
 
Sleep was extremely good last night however I was still very fatigued today. Went to the mirror this morning and seen my abs better then I ever have before. I may increase calories.

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Good log brother! Congrats on the weight loss and deciding to stand up and change your life at a young age. Looks like your sleep is in check now too this is awesome!

I got gyno which seems to be getting worse
Just throw caution to the wind and post pics of it bro if you look close in my avatar pic you'll see I got it still from prohormones when I was 18 years old. This will help us see if it's treatable with enough tamoxifen.

Your e2 levels being that high also isn't helping either.
 
I got gyno which seems to be getting worse. What could I be doing to reduce it?
I was taking 2mg arimidex per week before but have dropped down to 1mg per week, should I go back upto 2mg per week? Add in primo or eq?
Welp never-mind then this is key information. Improving gyno will depend on the root cause, and to figure out the appropriate response can you please answer a few questions? Let's get this sorted for you:

1) How long have you had the gyno?
2) What were you running at the time it developed?
3) What is your current cycle

Cheers bro!

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Can see a little of that gyno, was it there before and you have only just noticed it now ?
So couple years back I was extremely stupid and decided to run high dose test and tren with no pct and no idea what to do if I get gyno or any sides, after that I gained a bit of gyno but not that much but recently when I started this new cycle it got a whole lot bigger
Welp never-mind then this is key information. Improving gyno will depend on the root cause, and to figure out the appropriate response can you please answer a few questions? Let's get this sorted for you:

1) How long have you had the gyno?
2) What were you running at the time it developed?
3) What is your current cycle

Cheers bro!

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maybe around 3 years.
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You have pics of the gyno? @Eheoew share first
Good log brother! Congrats on the weight loss and deciding to stand up and change your life at a young age. Looks like your sleep is in check now too this is awesome!


Just throw caution to the wind and post pics of it bro if you look close in my avatar pic you'll see I got it still from prohormones when I was 18 years old. This will help us see if it's treatable with enough tamoxifen.

Your e2 levels being that high also isn't helping either.
I’m struggling to get photos where it’s clearly visible
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The pics are good I can see it.

Tamox isn't magic but we can try a 6-week run of it to see if it reduces in size and by how much. 40mg (20mg twice a day) but you need to let us know how you feel after 5-7 days and then check in daily with it. If you're irritable, moody, or get super achy joints or other new symptoms we'll have to lower the dose. A lot of people might tell you Raloxifene is best for gyno but there's way more research and studies on Tamox being more effective and indicated for reducing gyno in men.
 
Alright I’ll pickup some tamoxifen asap
Make sure and get real tamox from one of our suppliers don't sell yourself short and go off grid from EVO for this. Once received post pics for us.
 
@Eheoew What made you decide on the dose of 8iu? That is double what is considered the 'sweet spot' for GH to work effectively without any diminishing returns.

Also, were you aware the high dose GH can lead to gyno itself as well? It's not fully known why exactly but it's a known side effect of long term high dose GH use.
 
The pics are good I can see it.

Tamox isn't magic but we can try a 6-week run of it to see if it reduces in size and by how much. 40mg (20mg twice a day) but you need to let us know how you feel after 5-7 days and then check in daily with it. If you're irritable, moody, or get super achy joints or other new symptoms we'll have to lower the dose. A lot of people might tell you Raloxifene is best for gyno but there's way more research and studies on Tamox being more effective and indicated for reducing gyno in men.
Yes that looks like gyno @Eheoew 40mgs tamoxifen ed start asap split dose 20/20
Make sure and get real tamox from one of our suppliers don't sell yourself short and go off grid from EVO for this. Once received post pics for us.
Alright I’ll go buy some and start right away
 
@Eheoew What made you decide on the dose of 8iu? That is double what is considered the 'sweet spot' for GH to work effectively without any diminishing returns.

Also, were you aware the high dose GH can lead to gyno itself as well? It's not fully known why exactly but it's a known side effect of long term high dose GH use.
I was running lower doses but saw the most improvements in my sleep at 8iu and better quality of sleep
 
I don’t think my whole is accurately recording my sleep as last night I started trying to sleep at 9pm and didn’t take me long to get to sleep but the whoop app is telling me I didn’t get to sleep till 2:30am, 0 fatigue today 0 tiredness I feel really good and energised. Workout was really good, progressed on most exercises while still controlling the weight and good form. Currently in sauna and will be here for 20-30mins at 82 Celsius

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I don’t think my whole is accurately recording my sleep as last night I started trying to sleep at 9pm and didn’t take me long to get to sleep but the whoop app is telling me I didn’t get to sleep till 2:30am, 0 fatigue today 0 tiredness I feel really good and energised. Workout was really good, progressed on most exercises while still controlling the weight and good form. Currently in sauna and will be here for 20-30mins at 82 Celsius

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I see 1rm a few times nice :D but how you tracking sleep? I mean you in bed and sleeping actually right? @Eheoew
Weight: 85.2kg
Last week was 82.6kg
Abs are showing through more now, strength is going up, sleep quality and sleep hygiene improved dramatically
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you look good in the pic, lean tight big arms big chest :D

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I don’t think my whole is accurately recording my sleep as last night I started trying to sleep at 9pm and didn’t take me long to get to sleep but the whoop app is telling me I didn’t get to sleep till 2:30am, 0 fatigue today 0 tiredness I feel really good and energised. Workout was really good, progressed on most exercises while still controlling the weight and good form. Currently in sauna and will be here for 20-30mins at 82 Celsius

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If the strap didn't record it correctly you feel you can manually edit your sleep time and go back to see how your metrics looked when you thought you were sleeping. Maybe it's possible the strap moved in you and wasn't recording properly? Go back to that day then click the sleep and click the edit button and adjust the start time. It will have ll the data there
 
If the strap didn't record it correctly you feel you can manually edit your sleep time and go back to see how your metrics looked when you thought you were sleeping. Maybe it's possible the strap moved in you and wasn't recording properly? Go back to that day then click the sleep and click the edit button and adjust the start time. It will have ll the data there
Ahhh gotcha, I’ll have to fix up the past couple of nights of sleep. Thanks brother
 
Weight: 85.2kg
Last week was 82.6kg
Abs are showing through more now, strength is going up, sleep quality and sleep hygiene improved dramatically
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Looking really good here bro everything is coming along nicely! Nice side chest pose. For the side chest try and get your right delt to show and lean a little more twisted to your left and push your right delt out more. You can bring that arm up to get your bicep peak a little tighter. Or it might be that the camera is too far down as well. If I'm critiquing your posing take it as a compliment, well done.

yesterday I took my Vyvanse to help study but it fucked my sleep
Ya no shit it fucked your sleep up hahahaha. Taking vyvanse after your body has weaned off of it will wind you up good and proper.
 
Ahhh gotcha, I’ll have to fix up the past couple of nights of sleep. Thanks brother
I just remembered, there was an update a few days ago. I didn't bother to do the update right away and my sleep data was off a bit too.

Did you do the update that night? Might be the issue
 
Looking really good here bro everything is coming along nicely! Nice side chest pose. For the side chest try and get your right delt to show and lean a little more twisted to your left and push your right delt out more. You can bring that arm up to get your bicep peak a little tighter. Or it might be that the camera is too far down as well. If I'm critiquing your posing take it as a compliment, well done.


Ya no shit it fucked your sleep up hahahaha. Taking vyvanse after your body has weaned off of it will wind you up good and proper.
Legend bro, I appreciate the critiquing as I got no clue what I’m doing haha.
 
I just remembered, there was an update a few days ago. I didn't bother to do the update right away and my sleep data was off a bit too.

Did you do the update that night? Might be the issue
Yea all my stuff has been updated, maybe I’ve had the whoop on in the sauna too much and it’s affecting it. The battery seems to be dying quicker now aswell
 
Damn bro that's rough...what a fine line you need to straddle. Tough to strike the balance between sleep and study with your meds. Hope you do really well and can have some nice time for yourself to relax post exams.
Yea it’s quite horrible, Vyvanse help me so much in some parts of my life and negatively affect me in others. Last exams this week so won’t be touching Vyvanse again for a while. Thank you brother
 
Yea all my stuff has been updated, maybe I’ve had the whoop on in the sauna too much and it’s affecting it. The battery seems to be dying quicker now aswell
I wear mine in the sauna too but no issues. I had my whoop 4.0 for a couple years with no issue there. Whoop says it's totally fine to wear in the sauna on their site.
 
Yea that’s what I reckon I’ll be doing today as it’s a core and cardio day I will just do a bit of core at home and help my mum out at her cafe
get some rest too :D
 
I wear mine in the sauna too but no issues. I had my whoop 4.0 for a couple years with no issue there. Whoop says it's totally fine to wear in the sauna on their site.
oh, I got no clue then. I’ve tried contacting whoop and I’ve also changed wrists and tried putting it on the shorts and shirt and my leg to see if that makes a difference but it doesn’t seem to do anything
 
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Damn bro. Hope you get some rest for that exam. You got some crazy work ethic!! Looking forward to seeing you taper off that Vyvance and get some proper recovery. You deserve it
 
was Meant to have my last exam yesterday but it’s getting rescheduled, when I got home I passed out in bed as sleep was fucked, I slept good last night but still exhausted today and struggling to keep my eyes open
good sleep :D but lets get you back training
 
was Meant to have my last exam yesterday but it’s getting rescheduled, when I got home I passed out in bed as sleep was fucked, I slept good last night but still exhausted today and struggling to keep my eyes open
Aw that's bullshit. How do they reschedule an exam like that. Hate when they do that shit...unless I didn't really study. Then it's awesome lol
 
Aw that's bullshit. How do they reschedule an exam like that. Hate when they do that shit...unless I didn't really study. Then it's awesome lol
Yea I was waiting outside the exam room preparing. And no one came out for a while and I checked my emails and I had an email from tafe saying it’s been rescheduled. Sucks
 
Yea I was waiting outside the exam room preparing. And no one came out for a while and I checked my emails and I had an email from tafe saying it’s been rescheduled. Sucks
Yep that's a bad one...shitty. Even shittier 1 more week of Vyvance too.

Ah well. Atleast you slept like a rock star last night! Maybe the stress relief helped some. I bet this exams stuff has you all wound up and knowing you got an extra week put your mind at ease a bit right?
 
Yep that's a bad one...shitty. Even shittier 1 more week of Vyvance too.

Ah well. Atleast you slept like a rock star last night! Maybe the stress relief helped some. I bet this exams stuff has you all wound up and knowing you got an extra week put your mind at ease a bit right?
Studying isn’t for me, I was excited that it was going to be over haha, only one more exam left more time to study can’t complain
 
was really tired last night I don’t know why my sleep was so bad, it could be cause I’m coming off the Vyvanse as I had them 2 days ago. Some good news tho, I have the appointment with the doctor tomorrow for cbd as they rescheduled it from a week ago because the doctor was sick. Workout was really good, every time I train I’m seeing progress and I feel good.

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Haha yea it’s happened a couple times. I don’t reckon I’ll be having Vyvanse again any time soon even tho the exam is coming up
Yes I recall :D
 
was really tired last night I don’t know why my sleep was so bad, it could be cause I’m coming off the Vyvanse as I had them 2 days ago. Some good news tho, I have the appointment with the doctor tomorrow for cbd as they rescheduled it from a week ago because the doctor was sick. Workout was really good, every time I train I’m seeing progress and I feel good.

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sleep is bad but cbd should help I hope you can get it :D
I was checking you have some 1rms, tris pumped? @Eheoew
 
was really tired last night I don’t know why my sleep was so bad, it could be cause I’m coming off the Vyvanse as I had them 2 days ago. Some good news tho, I have the appointment with the doctor tomorrow for cbd as they rescheduled it from a week ago because the doctor was sick. Workout was really good, every time I train I’m seeing progress and I feel good.

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Still can't believe you guys have to see a doctor to get CBD... crazy.

Hope you get a good doctor and everything works out for you bro. CBD is a real game changer for sleep. Helps quiet my mind so I can fall asleep much easier
 
sleep is bad but cbd should help I hope you can get it :D
I was checking you have some 1rms, tris pumped? @Eheoew
Still can't believe you guys have to see a doctor to get CBD... crazy.

Hope you get a good doctor and everything works out for you bro. CBD is a real game changer for sleep. Helps quiet my mind so I can fall asleep much easier
I’ve got the cbd sorted and paid for and should arrive in 1-3 days. $300 for 10g of flower and 60 gummy’s. What I can’t understand is why u need to see a doctor to get melatonin
 
I’ve got the cbd sorted and paid for and should arrive in 1-3 days. $300 for 10g of flower and 60 gummy’s. What I can’t understand is why u need to see a doctor to get melatonin
Perfect :D and I dont get the melatonin either strange @Eheoew
 
I’ve got the cbd sorted and paid for and should arrive in 1-3 days. $300 for 10g of flower and 60 gummy’s. What I can’t understand is why u need to see a doctor to get melatonin
Man you guys live in a serious nanny state lol.

Flower? Why not oil? Smoking is bad mmmkay
 
I’ve got the cbd sorted and paid for and should arrive in 1-3 days. $300 for 10g of flower and 60 gummy’s. What I can’t understand is why u need to see a doctor to get melatonin
Vyvanse and CBD... you goin' hard bro LOL.

Let us know how the exam goes! (then shitcan that vyvanse LOL)
 
Man you guys live in a serious nanny state lol.

Flower? Why not oil? Smoking is bad mmmkay
yea it really sucks haha
I didn’t really get the option, the doctor didn’t really speak English and I could hardly understand him. Didn’t ask for my preference on thc or cbd don’t ask my preference for oils or flower or gummies he just said he’s given me really low thc flower and gummies. Just arrived today so I’ll be trying it out tonight
 
yea it really sucks haha
I didn’t really get the option, the doctor didn’t really speak English and I could hardly understand him. Didn’t ask for my preference on thc or cbd don’t ask my preference for oils or flower or gummies he just said he’s given me really low thc flower and gummies. Just arrived today so I’ll be trying it out tonight
Oh wow. So you can't actually even pick what you get after you get a prescription. Man shits crazy over there.
 
Nice sleep bro. Wasn't the last exam coming up today?
I'll be curious to see your heartrate after you get off the Vyvance cuz your sleeping HR is crazy all over the place.
Yea it was meant to be today but I was outside the classroom and couldn’t find the teacher so they told me I can just do it online which is way better haha
 
my dieting has been lacking this week, ran out of money as I’ve got a fine to pay so I’ve been finding whatever I can around the house to eat, should be going to Costco this weekend to pickup more food
if you can on the bad food days drink more protein shakes @Eheoew
 
Yea it was meant to be today but I was outside the classroom and couldn’t find the teacher so they told me I can just do it online which is way better haha
Online exams??? All that studying and worrying for nothn haha. Exam just became open book and ChatGPT lol.

I'd say good luck but who needs it now LOL
 
Online exams??? All that studying and worrying for nothn haha. Exam just became open book and ChatGPT lol.
worst influence ever lol :P
 
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