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10 IUs of hgh before bed thats a big dose broYes I heard of it before on occasions. I wear these at night haven't had bad carpel even at 10ius HGH before bed
The wrist support work wonders for me.
thats a valid point broI'd question this. Just how much was they using and it merely boosts natural production.
There's also a disconnect. Like when we see people say they are tired on PEDs and forget they train harder on PEDs. Others up the volume etc and then, when they have joint issues, blame product.
That said, usually if they were very lean, I saw the odd example of issues with Creatine and water bloat. The other was dry scooping and not enough fluid drunk with it and stomach upset (so on the user)
works well with myself, and i have good sponsors, that provide me.10 IUs of hgh before bed thats a big dose bro
As I've said many times. Once you get passed 5ius a day it's getting to be a given you'll have issues. Best to do 10ius for short periods only10 IUs of hgh before bed thats a big dose bro
Agreed. But all three things can be true.
@Mobster I rather not speak ill of the dead EVO brothers, but I heard more was involved with RIP Monstro than just steroids/hgh, some other products from what I heardAgreed. But all three things can be true.
Yes pros do - the late Monstro, a WABBA pro, did for sure and mentioned it on Evo.
I'd question his advice and esp his coach on that. Same as I'd do for a buddy at my local gym etc
We're all well aware of potential sides. Carpel tunnel is one such side effect and is associated with high use. What seems (and of course might vary from one person to the next) to be best is (if needed) HIGH use for short periods of time. Long term use is best done with lower amounts (circa 2.5ius a day). I've seen too many threads on various forums where the two connections are made.
On the Nutrabol... 20-25mg a day is the typical dose. I wonder if long term use at that dose enables potentially CTS in a LOT of users vs a few. Well worth seeing if there are any stats or studies on this. Super useful to the community as a whole. Ditto the conditions - as in does bodyfat, training etc affect the results
If, to be clear, a full vial is 10ius then half is 5 and at 5 per day that can lead to carpel tunnel issues. If it's less (please confirm) then we'd need to see. Also for how long (weeks, months etc) TYi don't know what to do with it. i was following docs instructions
but now im doing a vole every other day so, half as much..
does that sound ok ?
oh no wonder i got sudden arthritis symptoms in my fingers i use to get that years ago when i was a waiter and carried multiple heavy plates wedged in my fingersIf, to be clear, a full vial is 10ius then half is 5 and at 5 per day that can lead to carpel tunnel issues. If it's less (please confirm) then we'd need to see. Also for how long (weeks, months etc) TY
you were using a whole vial of HGH thats hugeoh no wonder i got sudden arthritis symptoms in my fingers i use to get that years ago when i was a waiter and carried multiple heavy plates wedged in my fingers
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I'd say and have said 4 (so 2.5ius)
@Mobster Legit work bro.......Monday
It might be xmas chaos outside (queues outside the big shop etc) and supposed to be cold but I was dripping sweat in the gym. Also spotted a buddy - crazy weights. Try 145kg a side on the low iso bench press (over 600lbs total). Then spotted him again on Smith Machine Press with 190kg/418lbs loaded. Even gave him a slap (back of the head)
Hatfield Squats
w/up, 100kg/220lbs x 8 reps, 200kg/440lbs x (support belt on) 6 reps (might have been 8) and then 320kg/704lbs (lifting belt n wraps on) x 4 reps - sat on the bench on the last rep. Had I been training with a buddy I'd have not sat in the hole but done 6-8 reps instead.
Leg Press
200kg x 8 reps, 420kg x 8 reps, 650kg/1430lbs x 8 reps
Lying Leg Curls
8p x 8 reps, 17p x 6 reps (felt good - sweating on the floor lol)
s/s
Leg Extensions
stack (90kg/198lbs) x 8 reps, stack x 6 reps per leg
Nice little leg Session @Mobster ! Merry Christmas Bro. Rest is good! Keep grindingMonday
It might be xmas chaos outside (queues outside the big shop etc) and supposed to be cold but I was dripping sweat in the gym. Also spotted a buddy - crazy weights. Try 145kg a side on the low iso bench press (over 600lbs total). Then spotted him again on Smith Machine Press with 190kg/418lbs loaded. Even gave him a slap (back of the head)
Hatfield Squats
w/up, 100kg/220lbs x 8 reps, 200kg/440lbs x (support belt on) 6 reps (might have been 8) and then 320kg/704lbs (lifting belt n wraps on) x 4 reps - sat on the bench on the last rep. Had I been training with a buddy I'd have not sat in the hole but done 6-8 reps instead.
Leg Press
200kg x 8 reps, 420kg x 8 reps, 650kg/1430lbs x 8 reps
Lying Leg Curls
8p x 8 reps, 17p x 6 reps (felt good - sweating on the floor lol)
s/s
Leg Extensions
stack (90kg/198lbs) x 8 reps, stack x 6 reps per leg
God help us hahahaLeg Press
200kg x 8, 400kg x 8 and 620kg/1364lbs
850kg/1870lbsGod help us hahahawhat’s the heaviest you have leg pressed @Mobster?
Your very articulate mate and your strength and experience is why I genuinely enjoy asking the questions. Appreciate you and you taking the time to answer brother your log is honestly motivating!850kg/1870lbs
The local gym had more 25kg plates then and so I could get 700 or 705kg on it. And then 'Brownie' aka Chris Brown a 150kg/330lbs lifter climbed on it. Just a few reps for the giggles. I could do more now. Heck, I could have done 700kg yesterday (I'll be there in 3 weeks max). If I win the lotto I'll buy a 4 pin machine from Watson - takes 1000kg/2200lbs
It's worth being clear on three points.
1) It's all relative. I squat a load so I ought to be able to leg press a load. I mean I sat, tight, onto a bench with 700lbs+ in the Hatfield Squat. I'm only leg pressing double. And I'm well over 300lbs etc with 45 years lifting.
2) How I do it. I have the exact same leg press at home - I mean EXACT (just a diff color). On mine I put a big foam pad on the back rest and, as I do at the commercial gym, on the super heavy sets I push off of the safeties (I mean who's gonna save me with 600kg?). I'd actually argue I have a better range of movement at home. My foot position means I'm pushing from where my legs/knee etc are at a right angle. I can and have gone deeper (I let it sit me in the hole with 420kg a few years back and repped it).
IF I was a bodybuilder I'd actually use less. Like no more than 400kg probably. But DEEP, slow and circa 20 reps. I'd also switch up between 1 and 2 legged presses and different food positions
There's a vid of me doing reps with 765kg circa 2005-2010 on my old YT account
big lifts today @MobsterFriday
Close Grip Bench Press
Usual warm ups then 172.5kg/379.5lbs x 3 x 3 reps
Mid-Iso Row
40kg x 8 reps, 80kg x 8 reps, 110kg/242lbs x 6 reps
Rolling Thunder Work
BH: 60kg x 8 reps, 80kg x 3 reps
LH: 110kg/242lbs 3 x 3 reps
RH: 120kg/264lbs x 3 x 1 reps
Rows were per sidebig lifts today @Mobster
wow thats even more impressiveRows were per side
And I'm just working back to top weights. I'd like to max the machine out - so 150kgwow thats even more impressive![]()
I did a post 2 days ago on Facebook. Sleeves are allowed in what is called 'raw powerlifting'.Nice week of weights @Mobster!is that an asterisk by your squat n leg press be PRs? Haven’t used knee wraps in years and years. Might be fun to try them again one day. But I lift Raw so Use size XL SBDs but I have competition sleeves LG by SBD. The federation said we have to put on sleeves on without assist or any cheating so to speak. If you can get the on yourself without a bag or sock do t matter how tight!!
legs might go numb tho. That be bad. Ha. Always inspiring to read bro!
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Monday
Hatfield Squat
w/up, 100kg x 8, 200kg x 8 and 330kg/726lbs* x 4 reps (1st rep was kinda hard and I realized after I was sitting back further and folded over more - the rest were more upright
Leg Press
200kg x 8 reps, 420kg x 8 reps, 665kg/1463lbs* x 8 reps
*belt n knee wraps on
Lying Leg Curls
8p x 8 reps, 17p/102kg/224lbs x 7 r/p reps
Leg Extensions
stack (90kg/198lbs) x 8 reps 2 legs, stack x 7 reps 1 leg at a time
@Mobster you killing it 665kg lol thats like a small car you leg pressing broTuesday
Seated BB Press
w/up, bar x 8 reps, 60kg x 8 reps, 85kg x 6 reps and (with sleeves on) 117.5kg/259.,5lbs x 6 reps (Ken egging me on)
Adjustable Thick Bar
BH: 60kg x 6 @, 90kg x 3 @
LH: +125kg/275lbs x 4 x 1
RH: bombed at a planned +130kg/286lbs so dropped to a harder than the left 125kg x 3 x 1 reps
Honestly age wise, apart from the odd bit here and there, I rarely notice it in the gymunbelievable job on this training session.
it just proves that age is just the number.
A buddy did 730kg (690 in plates plus a big ass band added and did 30 (yes 30) shallow reps@Mobster you killing it 665kg lol thats like a small car you leg pressing brohappy new year
730kg! huge lift broA buddy did 730kg (690 in plates plus a big ass band added and did 30 (yes 30) shallow reps
@Mobster always grinding!Monday
Hatfield Squat
w/up, 100kg x 8, 200kg x 8 and 330kg/726lbs* x 4 reps (1st rep was kinda hard and I realized after I was sitting back further and folded over more - the rest were more upright
Leg Press
200kg x 8 reps, 420kg x 8 reps, 665kg/1463lbs* x 8 reps
*belt n knee wraps on
Lying Leg Curls
8p x 8 reps, 17p/102kg/224lbs x 7 r/p reps
Leg Extensions
stack (90kg/198lbs) x 8 reps 2 legs, stack x 7 reps 1 leg at a time
xmas nice broA late Xmas prezzy from my daughter and grand kids, Steel laser cut decal. Probably going up in the office and not the gym
very nice man. i like it !A late Xmas prezzy from my daughter and grand kids, Steel laser cut decal. Probably going up in the office and not the gym
@Mobster This looks amazing........A late Xmas prezzy from my daughter and grand kids, Steel laser cut decal. Probably going up in the office and not the gym
new year bulk bro it will be epicStarted the New Year bulk yesterday. First 4 weeks (of 8) will be Purity Source Labs / EuroPharmacies. The latter 4 weeks will be (assuming no issues with delivery cos of customs) Pur Pharma Canada. Any issues and I'll stay with PSL/EP
Dosing / cycle info as follows: 1050mg weekly made up of 175mg a week of Proviron and 1ml each of Sus 250mg and 1ml of Deca every 4 days (eqv to 875mgs weekly). Pur also kindly included a few Cheque Drop tablets (I assume 300-500mcgs). These will be used sparingly (like super heavy days or 1RM's only - 1 tablet only).
I'll weigh myself tomorrow. I anticipate beating my old all time highest bodyweight of 336lbs (perhaps 340lbs). One issue is I don't have access to a working scale (I'll buy one soon) that goes over the 336lbs.
I also purchased earlier yesterday a bench press slingshot known as a F8 Widowmaker. If it works as planned it might involve benching 260-280kg (572-616lbs). That's 6 to 6.5 plates a side. Another possible on cycle target is a new 1 rep max Hatfield Squat. The old PB is 410kg/905lbs x 1. I can see 430-455 as a possibility. 455kg is a grand - 1000lbs
Beast mode activated
Can you explain the thumb work and what it's for/ why it would be needed?Thumb Work
Light band. Braced the working hand on my thigh and used the free hand too. Hooked the band over my thumb and repped to failure x 4 sets (reps got less and less with each set). The thumb absolutely needs strengthening
Explained above: Light band. Braced the working hand on my thigh and used the free hand too. Hooked the band over my thumb and repped to failure x 4 sets (reps got less and less with each set). The thumb absolutely needs strengtheningCan you explain the thumb work and what it's for/ why it would be needed?![]()
@pur-pharma-canadaSo the Pur-Pharma-Canada product just dropped in (never seen an Canadian Elk looking postman before lol). They will form the 2nd part of my 8 week Sus and Deca bulk and strength cycle (EuroPharmacies / Purity Source Labs being the first portion).
They look slick as f**k. Check these out!
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Friday
An epic kinda day. 2nd go at the F8 Slingshot. Had a great crew with me.
Bench Press
Wider grip with the F8 on.
Usual warm ups to 180kg x 1 and 200kg/440lbs x 1 with the Maddog slingshot on (paused in the hole). Then 260kg x 1, 280kg x 1 and 300kg/661lbs x 1 (still not enough to touch my chest as it paused 2-inch high)
Iso Lever Mid-Row
to 120kg/264lbs x 8
Low Cable Row
Landon had 75kg/155lbs pinned to the stack (eqv to 165kg/363lbs in the hand). I did 8 reps with that too
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Monday
Another hard day in paradise. Took some of Landon's PWO he'd given me. While I felt a little anxious walking down (normal for leg day) I can't say I was tingling etc. But work got done
Hatfield Squat
to 355kg/781lbs x 4 reps (used the new skinny calibrated plates as well)
Leg Press
to 730kg/1606lbs x 6 reps (as above with the plates and got the gym owner to lean on me. Left lat cramped lol)
Lying Leg Curls
to 18p x 5 reps
Leg Extensions
to stack x 15 reps 2nd set
Bwt: 327lbs (need to eat more)
600lbs bench cant be beat broTuesday
Seated Press
w/ups, bar x 8 reps, 60kg x 8 reps, 85kg x 6 reps, 120kg/264lbs x 5 reps
Wide Grip Two Hand Saxon Bar
12.5kg bar x 8 reps, 52.5kg x 6 reps, 72.5kg x 3 reps, 92.5kg x 3 reps, 102.5kg x 3 reps, 112.5kg x 1 rep and 117.5kg x F (also old PB IIRC)
Can - it was 661 lol600lbs bench cant be beat bro@Mobster
Over time. I've really old training diaries showing it.Have you always been this strong or is this something that you've developed over time?
Literally says how I do it in my log. I have SOME gifts. But it's also just putting in 45 years workyou are pushing some big weight.
No clue how you do it. You are just gifted.
100% agree with that. Most gyms you would NOT see thisThat's nice. That you have a group of there to support you and push, you, you don't see that in many places.
It's a number called a 'a sh*t load' ha ha. Actually 14 plates total plus the barVery impressive job.
I can't even count the amount of plates. I see on that bar.
Very much so. It was a case of slowly releasing the load. Very much feeling it outVery nice job for the spotters to let you get the weight. Without being too helpful.
AbsolutelyLiterally says how I do it in my log. I have SOME gifts. But it's also just putting in 45 years work
To be fair volume has it's place. But think on two points:Absolutely@Mobster! And when you build size and strength like this over years look at your volume!! It’s not massive like so many…. And yet you still have mass and strength! Dont have to go crazy with sets. Good job! Nic pics thx for sharing
@Mobster shifting serious weight as usual!!Friday
An epic kinda day. 2nd go at the F8 Slingshot. Had a great crew with me.
Bench Press
Wider grip with the F8 on.
Usual warm ups to 180kg x 1 and 200kg/440lbs x 1 with the Maddog slingshot on (paused in the hole). Then 260kg x 1, 280kg x 1 and 300kg/661lbs x 1 (still not enough to touch my chest as it paused 2-inch high)
Iso Lever Mid-Row
to 120kg/264lbs x 8
Low Cable Row
Landon had 75kg/155lbs pinned to the stack (eqv to 165kg/363lbs in the hand). I did 8 reps with that too
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