Primo or mast source

[CookieMuncher]

Good afternoon all,

I’ve been a TRT user for some time, self prescribed after my endocrinologist took $500 and told me to go away for asking help when my levels were 350 ng/dl and had low T symptoms.

Anyways besides the point, I’ve come a long way and trying to perfect my protocol.

I am estrogen prone (prepubertal gyno a bit which I will try raloxifene one day to fully get rid of) and also hairloss prone too, even at 150 mg of test e a week i get itchy nipples and bit bloated so i stay at 100 mg a week.

I recently introduced 170 mg primo e on top of my 100 mg test to help balance the androgen:estrogen ratio a bit and man, I feel really damn great on primo, this was sourced from bigdawg1 who is now not with us anymore. RIP

I’ve decided to create an account finally and start connecting with you awesome people who share my interests
So I’m making this post to see if anyone has Primo E in stock? (I assume no1 does)

My second preference is Masteron E if anyone has any and can lead me in the right direction. (Ill probably try like 120 mg test e and 60-80 mg mast e if anyone was curious about my protocol plans)

Thanks all, hoping to get to be more known in the community, I’m aware of all the rules and will be respectful and hey you might see me logging one day.

(I know mr liquidgoldlabs has mast P in stock but yea i prefer the E ester as its for HRT related reasons and also never been interested in taking an AI as i fucked my estrogen doing that in the past haha)

 

[Ratatata]

@ODINLABS has mast e in stock my friend!!

 

[Grumpy]

If your looking for estrogen control possibly better with eq rather than masteron
Mast e is available im using and recommend @ODINLABS

 

[CookieMuncher]

Ohh thanks all, I’ll hit up Odinlabs for the masteron E if i cant find any primo.
Thanks grumpy for the EQ suggestion, I heard a lot of people crash tf out of their estrogen using EQ so it was a pathway i never did more research on but yea I’ll give it a look!

 

[Montie2405]

@Liquid Gold Labs @Liquid Gold Labs Rep has mast e 250 brother

 

[bacwater]

@Liquid Gold Labs Masteron is good to go mate. The name speaks for itself, liquid gold

 

[CookieMuncher]

Ohh I did speak to liquid gold labs couple days ago, awesome nice dude!
He did only have mast P in stock doe mustve ran out of mast E very recently

 

[rizzlekdizzle]

EQ can crash your e2 - need to start low and get bloods to perfect it. But it is a very long ester so can build up and then throw things off down the line - not sure if its a great compound to use with TRT. Most use a little primo or mast - but mast doesn't lower your E2. You can always drop the T to 80mg and put the mast up ??

 

[Capsule Corp Rep]

Ohh I did speak to liquid gold labs couple days ago, awesome nice dude!
He did only have mast P in stock doe mustve ran out of mast E very recently

Yes we are currently out of mast E only mast P currently

 

[rizzlekdizzle]

EQ can crash your e2 - need to start low and get bloods to perfect it. But it is a very long ester so can build up and then throw things off down the line - not sure if its a great compound to use with TRT. Most use a little primo or mast - but mast doesn't lower your E2. You can always drop the T to 80mg and put the mast up ??

though correct me if im wrong - doesn't actually lower E2 but it does do something to it right?

 

[bacwater]

though correct me if im wrong - doesn't actually lower E2 but it does do something to it right?

From my understanding Masteron essentially acts as a mild AI it doesn’t lower serum estradiol levels but can block it from binding to estrogen receptors.

 

[CookieMuncher]

you can lower estrogen in a few ways, by taking an AI which isn’t ideal for my case as im on trt and long term AI use is unhealthy.

Other way is increasing androgens in the body, androgens and estrogens constantly compete with each other, think of it like an equilibrium or a seesaw.
By increasing androgens you lower the effectiveness of the current amount of estrogen in your body, so primo is perfect for this as its very tolerable. This method is quite good for TRT however doesn’t mean you can run a gram of test and gram of primo and be fine, thatd be too many androgens and estrogens so the balance is heavily interrupted anyways.

Or specifically masteron can be used as it has the same effect as primo but it also actually directly competes with estrogen at the receptor too, its by far the most effective estrogen competition androgen.

Since primo is the healthiest thats my preferred one but i guess its gonna have to be masteron, rip bit of hair.

From my understanding Masteron essentially acts as a mild AI it doesn’t lower serum estradiol levels but can block it from binding to estrogen receptors.

 

[CookieMuncher]

EQ can crash your e2 - need to start low and get bloods to perfect it. But it is a very long ester so can build up and then throw things off down the line - not sure if its a great compound to use with TRT. Most use a little primo or mast - but mast doesn't lower your E2. You can always drop the T to 80mg and put the mast up ??

If i drop the T I don’t even need any masteron or anything else to lower estrogen, I just like how I feel around 100-150 mg of test E and with a bit of primo i feel amazing at that dose.
EQ i probably will stay away from as I crashed E2 in the past and felt fucked for like a month, never wanna risk that level again. haha if anyone reading this has crashed their estrogen before they know exactly what I’m talking about.

 

[neoraven]

If i drop the T I don’t even need any masteron or anything else to lower estrogen, I just like how I feel around 100-150 mg of test E and with a bit of primo i feel amazing at that dose.
EQ i probably will stay away from as I crashed E2 in the past and felt fucked for like a month, never wanna risk that level again. haha if anyone reading this has crashed their estrogen before they know exactly what I’m talking about.

What about proviron?

 

[CookieMuncher]

What about proviron?

I think that would actually have the opposite effect of what I want.
Proviron is mildly androgenic but crushes shbg levels.
Shbg down means free test goes higher which means more estrogen

 

[neoraven]

I think that would actually have the opposite effect of what I want.
Proviron is mildly androgenic but crushes shbg levels.
Shbg down means free test goes

It lowers shbg yeh but wouldn't say crush.
Proviron does not aromatize so it will never give you high E2, instead it binds to receptors and blocks estrogen realated side effects but also increases free testosterone.
It's as mild if not more then primo but I feel better on it then I do on primo at low dose.
The libido increase is off the charts

 

[neoraven]

I think that would actually have the opposite effect of what I want.
Proviron is mildly androgenic but crushes shbg levels.
Shbg down means free test goes

Just a recommendation maybe why your waiting on the primo & mast to come back in stock bro good thing about proviron over primo & mast is you don't have to wait 1-4 weeks to feel it working.

 

[CookieMuncher]

Yea i just dont know if i prefer masteron doe over proviron
But appreciate your thoughts im keen to look into it more

 

[Allupfromhere]

Bro straight to the man @ODINLABS for mast e brother i dont think ill ever come off it

 

[Atypical_CA]

Good afternoon all,

I’ve been a TRT user for some time, self prescribed after my endocrinologist took $500 and told me to go away for asking help when my levels were 350 ng/dl and had low T symptoms.

Anyways besides the point, I’ve come a long way and trying to perfect my protocol.

I am estrogen prone (prepubertal gyno a bit which I will try raloxifene one day to fully get rid of) and also hairloss prone too, even at 150 mg of test e a week i get itchy nipples and bit bloated so i stay at 100 mg a week.

I recently introduced 170 mg primo e on top of my 100 mg test to help balance the androgen:estrogen ratio a bit and man, I feel really damn great on primo, this was sourced from bigdawg1 who is now not with us anymore. RIP

I’ve decided to create an account finally and start connecting with you awesome people who share my interests
So I’m making this post to see if anyone has Primo E in stock? (I assume no1 does)

My second preference is Masteron E if anyone has any and can lead me in the right direction. (Ill probably try like 120 mg test e and 60-80 mg mast e if anyone was curious about my protocol plans)

Thanks all, hoping to get to be more known in the community, I’m aware of all the rules and will be respectful and hey you might see me logging one day.

(I know mr liquidgoldlabs has mast P in stock but yea i prefer the E ester as its for HRT related reasons and also never been interested in taking an AI as i fucked my estrogen doing that in the past haha)

Loving this community helping each other out. I’m having water retention issues myself and figured I’ve dialed myself too high on T and need something to tackle e2 effects. Reading this stuff helps guide my decision on an AI vs Primo

 

[CookieMuncher]

Loving this community helping each other out. I’m having water retention issues myself and figured I’ve dialed myself too high on T and need something to tackle e2 effects. Reading this stuff helps guide my decision on an AI vs Primo

Im glad to hear that brother!!
AI is ok for cycles but if you are cruising long term it can be detrimental to your health.
If you can fix your E2 issues with masteron or primo that is ideal!
Also be careful to not over do it, crashing estrogen is actually the worse hormonal feeling you can experience, speaking from personal experience.

 

[CypherOCE]

Bro straight to the man @ODINLABS for mast e brother i dont think ill ever come off it

Second this

I think @ODINLABS is one of, if not the only vendor with Mast E currently available at the moment

Some other vendors I think had Mast P in stock but not E @Liquid Gold Labs I think this was you?

Otherwise failing the above, maybe, @Raptor Labs has some but again, I’m not to sure

Hope this helps!

 

[CookieMuncher]

Second this

I think @ODINLABS is one of, if not the only vendor with Mast E currently available at the moment

Some other vendors I think had Mast P in stock but not E @Liquid Gold Labs I think this was you?

Otherwise failing the above, maybe, @Raptor Labs has some but again, I’m not to sure

Hope this helps!

Yep just ordered Odins mast e
Keen as fuck my bro

 

[Capsule Corp Rep]

Second this

I think @ODINLABS is one of, if not the only vendor with Mast E currently available at the moment

Some other vendors I think had Mast P in stock but not E @Liquid Gold Labs I think this was you?

Otherwise failing the above, maybe, @Raptor Labs has some but again, I’m not to sure

Hope this helps!

Correct we only have mast p instock
Thanks @CypherOCE

 

[Coolguy]

Correct we only have mast p instock
Thanks @CypherOCE

I've been using @Liquid Gold Labs mast p for a while since mast e has been out of stock.
It's been fire

 

[CypherOCE]

I've been using @Liquid Gold Labs mast p for a while since mast e has been out of stock.
It's been fire

Good stuff for EOD injections?

 

[Coolguy]

Good stuff for EOD injections?

Nah im mental illness do my injections everyday

 

[Coolguy]

I'm not an addict i swear