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Yummy!!!!
It lasts 36 hours.
Great mix
10/12/23
Weight 274.8
Morning Cardio
20min StairMaster
35min Treadmill
24 Hours Fasting
Meal of the Day) 8oz ribeye, 20 Grams Collagen, caesar salad, 1/2 Avocado, handfull smokehouse almonds, Quest Keto Cookie
Weight 274.8
Morning Cardio
20min StairMaster
35min Treadmill
24 Hours Fasting
Meal of the Day) 8oz ribeye, 20 Grams Collagen, caesar salad, 1/2 Avocado, handfull smokehouse almonds, Quest Keto Cookie
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@RoidRage69 very few can fast on their holiday 24 hours well done
Caesar salad no dressing right?
btw I'm a fan of the quest cookies too
There was dressing. Without dressing it would just be lettuce with parmesan cheese. Im not dieting to compete so I am not going to be that strict. Have no plans too. This is a hobby for me only. As long as I recomp I am happy.
10/13/23
Weight 274.0
Hammer Iso Row 1-Arm Neutral Grip
225x15
230x15x2
Cable Pulldowns Neutral Close Grip
220x7
205x7
Chest Supported Machine Rows Reverse Grip
235x8
235x8 Dropset 115x15
Cable Pullovers
120x15x2
Shrugs Seated
180x15
230x12x2
DB Rear Delt
30x15x2
Preacher Machine Curls 1-Arm
70x12
70x10
Meal 1) 8oz King Salmon, 1/2 can Bush's Baked Beans, 20 grams Collagen, 1 cup pineapple
Snack) Costco Samples, Frozen Yogurt Vanilla/Strawberry Swirl
Meal 2) 2 cups Cheerios, 1/2 cup granola, 2 cups milk, 1 1/3 Fairlife Protein Drink
Meal 3) 3oz King Salmon, 1/2 Chicken Bake, 2 slices garlic cheese bread, 1/2 cup pineapple, handfull raspberries, 2 handfulls gardettos, Fairlife Protein Drink
Weight 274.0
Hammer Iso Row 1-Arm Neutral Grip
225x15
230x15x2
Cable Pulldowns Neutral Close Grip
220x7
205x7
Chest Supported Machine Rows Reverse Grip
235x8
235x8 Dropset 115x15
Cable Pullovers
120x15x2
Shrugs Seated
180x15
230x12x2
DB Rear Delt
30x15x2
Preacher Machine Curls 1-Arm
70x12
70x10
Meal 1) 8oz King Salmon, 1/2 can Bush's Baked Beans, 20 grams Collagen, 1 cup pineapple
Snack) Costco Samples, Frozen Yogurt Vanilla/Strawberry Swirl
Meal 2) 2 cups Cheerios, 1/2 cup granola, 2 cups milk, 1 1/3 Fairlife Protein Drink
Meal 3) 3oz King Salmon, 1/2 Chicken Bake, 2 slices garlic cheese bread, 1/2 cup pineapple, handfull raspberries, 2 handfulls gardettos, Fairlife Protein Drink
nah i still take the pills makes me perform better. Portuguese women got high expectations i don't wanna let them down
@RoidRage69 you're back right, you can change the cheerios to yams or sweet potatoes or some oat, consider it
doin great bro
great work here bro
Good numbers on those lifts
10/14/23
Weight 275.4
Chest/Tris
Close Grip Bench
245x3x3
Hammer Incline
230x10
230x12x2
Machine Dips
265x12x2
Lateral Raise Machine
110x30
110x20
Tricep Reverse Grip Pushdowns
70x19
90x10
100x7
Tricep DB Kickbacks
40x10
45x10
Ab Machine
170x15x2
Treadmill 10min
Post Workout 15 Grams Glutamine
Meal 1) 3.5 eggs, 12oz Deli Loaded Potato Salad, 20 Grams Collagen, 1/2 Cup Pineapple, 1/2 cup raspberries
Meal 2) Fairlife Protein Drink
Meal 3) Restraunt Tacos, rice, black beans, Root Beer
Meal 4) 1/2 can Chicken Breast, mayo, small package ritz crackers, 1/2 bell pepper, Fairlife Protein Drink
Weight 275.4
Chest/Tris
Close Grip Bench
245x3x3
Hammer Incline
230x10
230x12x2
Machine Dips
265x12x2
Lateral Raise Machine
110x30
110x20
Tricep Reverse Grip Pushdowns
70x19
90x10
100x7
Tricep DB Kickbacks
40x10
45x10
Ab Machine
170x15x2
Treadmill 10min
Post Workout 15 Grams Glutamine
Meal 1) 3.5 eggs, 12oz Deli Loaded Potato Salad, 20 Grams Collagen, 1/2 Cup Pineapple, 1/2 cup raspberries
Meal 2) Fairlife Protein Drink
Meal 3) Restraunt Tacos, rice, black beans, Root Beer
Meal 4) 1/2 can Chicken Breast, mayo, small package ritz crackers, 1/2 bell pepper, Fairlife Protein Drink
Man I wish we had a Lat raise Machine that would be killer!
@RoidRage69 what kind of restaurant Tacos? you got the real deal or just fast food
i like those real mexican tacos the small ones
Very nice training session
10/15/23
Weight 277.6
Meal 1) 3 eggs, 1 cup oatmeal, Fairlife Protein Drink, 1 Banana, handfull raspberries
Snack) 1.2oz oberto jerky, couple bites of wifes leftover pasta,
Meal 2) 12oz King Salmon, 1/2 bag 90 Sec Rice, Broccoli, handful raspberries
Weight 277.6
Meal 1) 3 eggs, 1 cup oatmeal, Fairlife Protein Drink, 1 Banana, handfull raspberries
Snack) 1.2oz oberto jerky, couple bites of wifes leftover pasta,
Meal 2) 12oz King Salmon, 1/2 bag 90 Sec Rice, Broccoli, handful raspberries
Love following these logs!!
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hope to definitely hear an update tomorrow
Solid job I like how you cycle your diet
bro very nice I like the broccoli and salmon
10/16/23
Weight 272.7
Bis/Tris
Seated Tricep Extension Machine
170x12x2
Tricep Cable Pushdowns
100x8
120x5
110x7 Dropset 70x11 50x10 30x30
Seated Preacher Curls with EZ-Curl Bar
50x12
70x9 widegrip
70x10 closegrip
Bicep Machine Freemotion Hammer Curls
100x10
120x8
Bicep Machine Curls Life Fitness 1-Arm
80x10
10min StairMaster
Post Workout 15 Grams Glutamine
Meal 1) 5 Eggs, 1.5 cups oatmeal, 20 grams Collagen, 2 grams Omega3, 1/2 cup pineapple, handfull kiwi berries
Meal 2) 10oz King Salmon, 1/2 bag 90 sec rice
Meal 3) 1/3 package of Costco Meat Loaf/mashed potatoes, 1/2 bag Mexcian Style Street Corn Chopped Salad Kit, 3 grams Omega3
Arms were already pretty sore before todays workout due to the fact I did tris 2 days ago and bis 3 days ago. Will be adding more volume on arms starting next workout. Should be nice to finally have a dedicated arm day in my training arsenal. Been about 25 years since ive done it. I expect the arms to grow and get strong as hell which in turn will make all my lifts much stronger.
Weight 272.7
Bis/Tris
Seated Tricep Extension Machine
170x12x2
Tricep Cable Pushdowns
100x8
120x5
110x7 Dropset 70x11 50x10 30x30
Seated Preacher Curls with EZ-Curl Bar
50x12
70x9 widegrip
70x10 closegrip
Bicep Machine Freemotion Hammer Curls
100x10
120x8
Bicep Machine Curls Life Fitness 1-Arm
80x10
10min StairMaster
Post Workout 15 Grams Glutamine
Meal 1) 5 Eggs, 1.5 cups oatmeal, 20 grams Collagen, 2 grams Omega3, 1/2 cup pineapple, handfull kiwi berries
Meal 2) 10oz King Salmon, 1/2 bag 90 sec rice
Meal 3) 1/3 package of Costco Meat Loaf/mashed potatoes, 1/2 bag Mexcian Style Street Corn Chopped Salad Kit, 3 grams Omega3
Arms were already pretty sore before todays workout due to the fact I did tris 2 days ago and bis 3 days ago. Will be adding more volume on arms starting next workout. Should be nice to finally have a dedicated arm day in my training arsenal. Been about 25 years since ive done it. I expect the arms to grow and get strong as hell which in turn will make all my lifts much stronger.
I am close to 200 grams on lifting days now. About 150 on non lifting days. I think its fine as I am not bulking.
Going to stop taking the NPP and use Tbol instead. I feel as though I am wasting the NPP and it would be better off used at a much higher dosage next winter in a bulking cycle. I want to get stronger during my cal deficit so Tbol is the logical choice. Will run it at 40mg day.
Wanted an opinion on if its ok to drop the proviron now that I am dropping the NPP.
killing it bro
I'm between 200-255 tops for protein I've never seen the point in pushing 300+
@RoidRage69 actually on cutting cycles you need protein even more than bulking, your body needs a positive nitrogen balance even when cutting up
@RoidRage69 npp is not required imo, drop it and swap in some tbol split 20/20 /ed dose
and you dont need proviron without npp, i mainly use it with nandrolones
10/17/23
Weight 273.7
26 Hours Fasting
Meal of the Day) 8oz New York Strip, 1/2 bag Caesar Salad, 1/2 avocado, 20 grams Collagen, handful raspberries, 1 cup pineapple, 1 Unreal Dark Chocolate Coconut Mini
Weight 273.7
26 Hours Fasting
Meal of the Day) 8oz New York Strip, 1/2 bag Caesar Salad, 1/2 avocado, 20 grams Collagen, handful raspberries, 1 cup pineapple, 1 Unreal Dark Chocolate Coconut Mini
26 hours fasting is good..........
10/18/23
Weight 272.2
Morning Cardio
20min StairMaster
56min Treadmill 15 Incline
24 Hours Fasting
Meal of the Day) 12oz King Salmon, 1/2 avocado, half package asparagus, 20 grams Collagen, 2000mg Omega3, Quest Protein Cookie, Fairlife Protein Drink, snickerdoodle, 1/2 cup pineapple
Weight 272.2
Morning Cardio
20min StairMaster
56min Treadmill 15 Incline
24 Hours Fasting
Meal of the Day) 12oz King Salmon, 1/2 avocado, half package asparagus, 20 grams Collagen, 2000mg Omega3, Quest Protein Cookie, Fairlife Protein Drink, snickerdoodle, 1/2 cup pineapple
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nice job on the fasting I am currently three and a half days into mine
going to break it Friday morning with some melon and then have bone broth later that day
have you considered pushing it to 48 hours?
Ive thought about it, but I wont even consider it unless my wife does it too.
Ok so ive got so ive got some pretty good info on blood sugars while taking NPP/proviron and without taking it. Yesterday would have been my day to take NPP again and Monday was my last shot of NPP. Today my fasting blood sugar is down 20-25 points. I wonder if anyone else has had higher blood sugars while taking nandrolone? Its the only thing I have done different other than adding in 40mg Tbol yesterday. My blood sugars are 99 this morning and they have been 120-125 everyday the last 6 weeks since starting the cycle. I thought it was the gh causing the higher levels but it looks like it could be the NPP/proviron combo. Will keep a check on it over the next week.
So my cycle is currently this:
200mg Test Enanthate/week
200mg Masterone Enanthate/week
50mg Test Cyp/week
40mg Tbol/day
2iu GH/day
10mg Cialis/day
So my cycle is currently this:
200mg Test Enanthate/week
200mg Masterone Enanthate/week
50mg Test Cyp/week
40mg Tbol/day
2iu GH/day
10mg Cialis/day
No. The recent tren yes and low not high
All AAS, short term, should lower blood sugar. Long term can be different. On the other hand, bruising and site reactions can increase blood sugar.
This doesnt apply as I am already pinning on Monday and Wesnesday as well and taking gh daily. Just dropped the NPP/proviron and added Tbol is the only thing that changed.
I think my body is ultra sensitive to nandrolones.
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could be a nice experiment with this log about the blood sugar
you should monitor this for sure
bro auntie bodymonster got high sugars too
I obviously can’t say it isn’t the NPP, but in general high BG comes with bad nutrient partitioning. NPP, like all AAS, improves nutrient partitioning, so it should improve blood glucose. Being ultra sensitive to nandrolones should mean that it would get more better, because you would be getting more of an effect. On the other hand, blood glucose can rise when your body has something in it it does not like, so that could be it.
Testing fasting insulin might give you more info. It’s a more sensitive way of looking at insulin sensitivity.
Either way I like the result so far. Blood sugars are way better now so will keep monitoring it. I also noticed I was much hotter in the gym today as well. Sweating like a madman.
That is all you can do man. Just keep monitoring. Glad results have been good!
10/19/23
Weight 271.8
Legs
Cybex Squat Press
990x6x2
990x8
SLDL Hoist Machine
360x8x2
360x10
Leg Ext
206x12x2
206x11 dropset 115x9
Seated Leg Curls
214x10x2
214x12
One-Leg Ext
78x15
Seated Calves
45x15
90x15
Yes/No's
1 superset
Treadmill
12min
Post Workout 15 Grams Glutamine
Meal 1) 1/3 leftover package costco meatloaf/mashed potatoes, 20 grams collagen, 1 cup pineapple, 2000mg Omega3
Meal 2) 8oz King Salmon, 1 cup pineapple, 1/2 cucumber, 1/2 bag 90sec rice, 2000mg Omega3
Meal 3) 2 cups Cheerios, 2 cups 1% lactose free milk, 1/2 cup granola, 1 cup fat free cottage cheese
Meal 4) 1 cup catalina crunch, Fairlife Protein Drink, 3000mg Omega3, handful smokehouse almonds
Weight 271.8
Legs
Cybex Squat Press
990x6x2
990x8
SLDL Hoist Machine
360x8x2
360x10
Leg Ext
206x12x2
206x11 dropset 115x9
Seated Leg Curls
214x10x2
214x12
One-Leg Ext
78x15
Seated Calves
45x15
90x15
Yes/No's
1 superset
Treadmill
12min
Post Workout 15 Grams Glutamine
Meal 1) 1/3 leftover package costco meatloaf/mashed potatoes, 20 grams collagen, 1 cup pineapple, 2000mg Omega3
Meal 2) 8oz King Salmon, 1 cup pineapple, 1/2 cucumber, 1/2 bag 90sec rice, 2000mg Omega3
Meal 3) 2 cups Cheerios, 2 cups 1% lactose free milk, 1/2 cup granola, 1 cup fat free cottage cheese
Meal 4) 1 cup catalina crunch, Fairlife Protein Drink, 3000mg Omega3, handful smokehouse almonds
How do you like Tbol @RoidRage69 ?
Its only been 2 days since I started so will have to keep an eye on it. I think it is making me warmer. I am sweating more in the gym now. Must be working.
nice work on the fast
Solid log updates.....keep up the good work........
Once you start using Insulin you pretty much have to use it for the rest of your life dont you? I dont want to go down that route.
Been pretty stable under 100 two days in a row first thing in the morning upon wakening. This is while eating 200+grams carbs/day. If this continues I will continue to do everything the same and make no more changes.
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Not true. If used smartly. And don't abuse
Ok. Ive used it 25 years ago. I liked the way I felt being able to eat massive amounts. Still dont think I need it as the metformin and berberine are doing the job for now.
@RoidRage69 What are you trying to do with your workout, what's your end goal?
To get back into a lean condition, become a mass monster, and be strong as fuck. It’s possible I might compete if my body responds well.
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@Pigsy insulin tends to make big guys like @RoidRage69 insulin-resistant, while berberine will do the opposite so even if he can quit there are other issues involved
The single best thing for insulin resistance is to lose body fat. However you do that is up to you, but the relationship between the body’s ability to efficiently deal with carbs is directly linked to how much fat is there. Remember, fat is not just an inert thing, it actually sends off harmful signals to your body, and many of these relate to glucose and insulin.
The big danger is if your pancreas has been working too hard, too long, and burned out beta cells. In that case, there isn’t a lot of good news, but if you aren’t there, and it doesn’t sound like you are, really anything you can do to take stress off of your pancreas and lose weight is going to be a huge benefit. Again, this is why something like a semaglutide or tirzepitide is such a miracle drug when compared to what was available even a decade ago. Metformin and berberine also play this role, but it’s just slower. Insulin only takes pressure off of your pancreas, it doesn’t actually help lose fat, so it isn’t as useful, and it is a hell of a lot more dangerous, though the newer basal insulins are a lot better than the older versions.
The big danger is if your pancreas has been working too hard, too long, and burned out beta cells. In that case, there isn’t a lot of good news, but if you aren’t there, and it doesn’t sound like you are, really anything you can do to take stress off of your pancreas and lose weight is going to be a huge benefit. Again, this is why something like a semaglutide or tirzepitide is such a miracle drug when compared to what was available even a decade ago. Metformin and berberine also play this role, but it’s just slower. Insulin only takes pressure off of your pancreas, it doesn’t actually help lose fat, so it isn’t as useful, and it is a hell of a lot more dangerous, though the newer basal insulins are a lot better than the older versions.
Awesome job with the fasting
10/20/23
Weight 271.6
Pecs/Delts/Traps
(Shoulder about 75%)
Warmup on DB Flat Bench
32.5x15
40x15
Incline DB Bench
60x10
90x8
90x10
90x8
Hammer Decline
270x10 (hurt like hell)
Dip Machine Hoist
279x12x2
Hammer Shoulder Press
90x12
180x7
Rear Delt Machine
205x12
160x25
Lateral Raise Machine
110x40
Shrugs Seated
180x20
Shrugs Standing
270x20
360x12
Ab Machine
190x15x2
Cardio
10min StairMaster
20min Treadmill
Post Workout 15 Grams Glutamine, 1 Banana
Meal 1) 6oz New York Steak, 1 package Idahoan Smokey Cheese and Bacon Mashed Potatoes, 20 grams Collagen, 1.5 cup Pineapple, 2000mg Omega3
Meal 2) Can Albacore Tuna, 1/2 package mashed potatoes, 1.5 cup Pineapple, Fairlife Protein Drink, 2000mg Omega3
Meal 3) Can Sockeye Salmon, 1.5 cups Sweet Potatoes, 3 Taquitos, 1/2 cup Pineapple, handful raspberries, Fairlife Protein Drink, 2000mg Omega3
Weight 271.6
Pecs/Delts/Traps
(Shoulder about 75%)
Warmup on DB Flat Bench
32.5x15
40x15
Incline DB Bench
60x10
90x8
90x10
90x8
Hammer Decline
270x10 (hurt like hell)
Dip Machine Hoist
279x12x2
Hammer Shoulder Press
90x12
180x7
Rear Delt Machine
205x12
160x25
Lateral Raise Machine
110x40
Shrugs Seated
180x20
Shrugs Standing
270x20
360x12
Ab Machine
190x15x2
Cardio
10min StairMaster
20min Treadmill
Post Workout 15 Grams Glutamine, 1 Banana
Meal 1) 6oz New York Steak, 1 package Idahoan Smokey Cheese and Bacon Mashed Potatoes, 20 grams Collagen, 1.5 cup Pineapple, 2000mg Omega3
Meal 2) Can Albacore Tuna, 1/2 package mashed potatoes, 1.5 cup Pineapple, Fairlife Protein Drink, 2000mg Omega3
Meal 3) Can Sockeye Salmon, 1.5 cups Sweet Potatoes, 3 Taquitos, 1/2 cup Pineapple, handful raspberries, Fairlife Protein Drink, 2000mg Omega3
Morning fasted blood glucose is 95!!!! 
To lean down, I would keep the test and drop everything else. I would figure out my macros. I would add cardarine to 10-20mg. That would help with inflammation, your insulin response and that would also target your visceral fat. It would also help you perform better overall. You could also add stenabolic dissolved sublingually but it's less bioavailable and you must spread the doses during the day. You can also add a nice little cocktail of natural supplements to support your functions: ksm-66, magnesium, zinc, vitamin c, fenugreek, turmeric and throw in there a good multivitamin. Intermittent fasting is a good idea.
No need for keto, no more gear, no nothing, just a good old caloric deficit. It would have been much more productive in my opinion. Losing excess fat would have addressed in part any inflammatory and insulin sensitivy problems.
Assuming you have an excess of 50lbs, 2lbs per week equals to 20-25 weeks. With your TRT you can be more agressive since the cut wouldn't play with your testosterone as much as if you were natural. I would only use refeeds if I feel less sharp or I my fat loss is slowing down, not every two weeks. When you are starting out, your first refeed can be in a month or more. Go slow and steady is the way to go to keep muscle mass.
No point in having masteron, tbol, two kinds of test and gh in there. I would have stuck with your TRT.
That's just my opinion, and you are doing a good job with your workouts. I would like to know more like your macros, your target weight, your target body fat ratio, your current body fat ratio, how active you are during the day, etc.
Do your own research though, I'm not a scientist or a doctor.
Things are way better on the gear Im on now compared to just the 200mg TRT. Muscle gains and fat loss are doing very well. I am in a 2000 cal deficit on non lifting days and 1000-1500 on lifting days. I figure by the end of the year I will be down another 10-15lbs and about 5-7% bf reduction. By end of next summer I should hit 230-240@10-12% BF.
As far as the cocktail of things I took a picture a while back and posted it. My liver is in heaven right now. I have even added Tudca to my NAC, Artichoke, Dandelion, Milk Thistle routine.
I am not going to change a single thing for the remainder of the year. I am dialed in right now.
To get a better idea of where I have been and where I am heading check out my wifes log and you will see where we are heading. We train together and nobody has ever coached either of us. We do everything based on our past experience and most importantly how we feel on any given day. We dont follow any program. In my opinion you can throw all programs away. Go by how you feel. Listen to your body. Know when to back off.
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Also I am not doing the diet in the OP. I have changed it up completely. I am carb cycling now. I wish there was a way to edit it or add to the OP with an edit of added content in the OP. I am not having any fat loss problems at all other than it has slowed from 2-2 lbs per week to 1lb per week but I am gaining lean muscle mass so that is fine with me.
I don’t think there are any particular downsides to what RR is doing at this point. As he and I have discussed, I am skeptical of the ability to gain any muscle in that deficit, but no need to beat a dead horse 
.
I realize he is not doing keto anymore, but one of the interesting newer findings about keto, which contradicted a lot of the theoretical beliefs, is that keto is actually really bad for insulin resistance in many cases, probably due to the influence of circulating fats over incipient T2 diabetes. Everybody thought it was all carbs/sugar, but it is much more fat determined than previously believed. Not exactly surprising given the comorbidity of T2 diabetes with all other fat determined negative health markers.
Fasting seems to have more moderated effects because fasting leads to huge increases in AMPK, which are good for insulin resistance, but on the other hand, it is also extremely catabolic, which is bad for insulin resistance. There were some random earlier studies that suggested fasting was not catabolic, but I think it is pretty difficult to argue that anymore.
.I realize he is not doing keto anymore, but one of the interesting newer findings about keto, which contradicted a lot of the theoretical beliefs, is that keto is actually really bad for insulin resistance in many cases, probably due to the influence of circulating fats over incipient T2 diabetes. Everybody thought it was all carbs/sugar, but it is much more fat determined than previously believed. Not exactly surprising given the comorbidity of T2 diabetes with all other fat determined negative health markers.
Fasting seems to have more moderated effects because fasting leads to huge increases in AMPK, which are good for insulin resistance, but on the other hand, it is also extremely catabolic, which is bad for insulin resistance. There were some random earlier studies that suggested fasting was not catabolic, but I think it is pretty difficult to argue that anymore.
Showing heavy ketones in my urine sticks. Its pretty simple to go higher carb days and be in ketosis the following morning for me now. Blood sugar is also 89. Seems as though I have perfect harmony going.
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