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Approved Log My Testosterone Enanthate and Primo cycle Log

Wootoom said:
Oil yourself up and get a little bit of a tan and then you'll be absolutely rocking.
Not that you don't look great right now.
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Yeah got a bit of mt2 on the way which will help with how everything looks, especially the legs could use a tan as quads don't pop being pale white

2Thick said:
If I had to nitpick i would say drop 1-2% more body fat from here.

you will be absolutely ripped if you do,
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Thats the plan. I hold a tiny bit of fat in lower pec region aswell as in the legs that I'd like to come off.

Love a bit of constructive criticism it helps give me goals and focus

e2 said:
Keep working on the stomach vacuums. That is your only weak spot.
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Yeah I've figured this when trying to pose for pictures, also very fatigued trying to hold abs in so will have to make an effort on this

If you can recommend anyone to get tips from to incorporate into my training

Ulter said:
Make sure you're also hitting your legs hard.

You've got some great genetics with your arms.
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Would love to bring the quads up more just waiting on some knee issues to clear up.

Hamstrings have been growing nicely and getting stronger, also been back into the calves on the leg press which has been good
 
willipede said:
Physique Update ~6 week

Taken with natural lighting not the best. With some Led down lights and everything pops even more

Overall very happy so far, really wanting to have some nice capped delts by the end of the cycle and happy with any overall growth elsewhere.

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Looking solid!!!
 
willipede said:
Physique Update ~6 week

Taken with natural lighting not the best. With some Led down lights and everything pops even more

Overall very happy so far, really wanting to have some nice capped delts by the end of the cycle and happy with any overall growth elsewhere.

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Solid bro
 
Training update -
had a short break after this for nye

Upper session
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willipede said:
Training update -
had a short break after this for nye

Upper session
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willipede said:
Training -

Yesterday upper and today a lower sessions
finally got past a sticking point on my incline chest press. May have just needed a short break but feeling ready to break pb's

Upper
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Bad girls I had no idea thats what the machine is called lol :P
 
Cycle update - addition of Proviron
Have had proviron added to the cycle for the couple weeks 25mg every morning

Continued to do 12.5mg of aromasin e3d

Libido great, water retention down, carpal tunnel not feeling nearly as bad with lowered e2.

Overall feeling much better with these changes

Training - upper

Good session, everything moved well and felt good

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Injury & Recovery

As some of you might know I've been dealing with injuries for a while from my first log. I healed a lot since then doing a course of bpc-157, tb500 and ghk-cu

I probably recovered 7/10, feeling nearly injury free and better than ever before

Full of injuries my whole life been sick throughout most of my teenage years.

Compressed discs, arthritis in my spine, desiccated lumbar disc,nerve impingement c3, have some bilateral patella tendinitis, bilateral carpal tunnel syndrome, ulnar nerve impingement. Pain throughout, tight muscles throughout and insomnia since 14

recently recovered from a split tear my right forearm and prolapsed c3 disc

I am awaiting bilateral carpal tunnel surgery and an ulnar nerve transposition.

I have a stretching routine everyday, sports foam roller everyday, pilates classes and saunas

Repair protocol -

I have bpc, tb500 on the way and some generic hgh on hand

I will be running 500mcg bpc-157, 500mcg tb500 everyday.

2iu of hgh mon-fri before bed
 
Goal update -  Bodybuilding

Pre planning to do a bodybuilding comp here in Aus sometime maybe at the end of this year

Will be completing this cycle and then pct off.

Then getting my carpal tunnel surgery and ulnar nerve transposition should be next couple of months. Expected recovery is a month or so

After all this I will start working with @AE1079 to work towards a show.

I'm going to start start logging some meals, attempt some posing and start researching into shows bodybuilding and watching some YouTube stuff

If anyone can recommend any good YouTube videos or documentaries I'll give them a watch aswell
 
willipede said:
Goal update -  Bodybuilding

Pre planning to do a bodybuilding comp here in Aus sometime maybe at the end of this year

Will be completing this cycle and then pct off.

Then getting my carpal tunnel surgery and ulnar nerve transposition should be next couple of months. Expected recovery is a month or so

After all this I will start working with @AE1079 to work towards a show.

I'm going to start start logging some meals, attempt some posing and start researching into shows bodybuilding and watching some YouTube stuff

If anyone can recommend any good YouTube videos or documentaries I'll give them a watch aswell
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Cracker physique mate, you will
Enjoy this process. Excited for what’s ahead of you man.
 
willipede said:
Cycle update - addition of Proviron
Have had proviron added to the cycle for the couple weeks 25mg every morning

Continued to do 12.5mg of aromasin e3d

Libido great, water retention down, carpal tunnel not feeling nearly as bad with lowered e2.

Overall feeling much better with these changes

Training - upper

Good session, everything moved well and felt good

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@willipede I find proviron helps harden a bit and smooth flow with deca/npp but with primo didn't see much of a result with any of my clients.

@AE1079 @Pigsy @s.gentz @RoidRage69 @Mobster @stevesmi @Noah Wixx @Eddie Haskell chime in please.
 
LevButlerov said:
@willipede I find proviron helps harden a bit and smooth flow with deca/npp but with primo didn't see much of a result with any of my clients.

@AE1079 @Pigsy @s.gentz @RoidRage69 @Mobster @stevesmi @Noah Wixx @Eddie Haskell chime in please.
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Proviron certainly ha a synergy with other drugs but IMO it really only shines when used with nandrolones. He is already taking primo should he should have plenty of DHT on this cycle so proviron really not needed.
LevButlerov said:
You look amazing :D
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Yeah he looks great!
 
willipede said:
Goal update -  Bodybuilding

Pre planning to do a bodybuilding comp here in Aus sometime maybe at the end of this year

Will be completing this cycle and then pct off.

Then getting my carpal tunnel surgery and ulnar nerve transposition should be next couple of months. Expected recovery is a month or so

After all this I will start working with @AE1079 to work towards a show.

I'm going to start start logging some meals, attempt some posing and start researching into shows bodybuilding and watching some YouTube stuff

If anyone can recommend any good YouTube videos or documentaries I'll give them a watch aswell
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I think you can easily step on stage this summer. :D
I suggest you start listening to the EVO podcast,
 
Pigsy said:
I would add masteron before proviron when using Primo. If it was my cycle
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Sure masteron is a better pick. Many clients dont like the extra pins.
 
LevButlerov said:
Sure masteron is a better pick. Many clients dont like the extra pins.
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How much volume your clients use, for adding masteron would need extra pinning. Must be a lot.
 
Pigsy said:
How much volume your clients use, for adding masteron would need extra pinning. Must be a lot.
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cant speak for lev but I got 1 guy im prepping for and Ohio show bro and he hella against pinning lies to me and does orals
 
SHBG 12nmol/L with test 480mg pw, primo 520mg pw

e2 283pmol/L

Then I had added 12.5mg aromasin e3d

Added 25mg ed proviron to drop shgb a little more and try and stop some conversion and i have had improved libido and mood since

s.gentz said:
Proviron certainly ha a synergy with other drugs but IMO it really only shines when used with nandrolones. He is already taking primo should he should have plenty of DHT on this cycle so proviron really not needed.

Yeah he looks great!
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Pigsy said:
I would add masteron before proviron when using Primo. If it was my cycle
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Reason I didn't want to add masteron is I have no experience with it yet, so just used an AI and some proviron to get things a bit more in check. Run this cycle and use it as a learning experience to improve further cycles

LevButlerov said:
Sure masteron is a better pick. Many clients dont like the extra pins.
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I dont mind the pins but didn't want to overcomplicate this cycle. In future I now feel comfortable adding in mast now that I've had some experience with primo
 
Npcclassicphysique champ said:
cant speak for lev but I got 1 guy im prepping for and Ohio show bro and he hella against pinning lies to me and does orals
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There are some that would go oral only as scared of needles. My point to Lev was it a bit of extra volume not extra injections
 
Good news!!!

Repair protocol has arrived
- dosing

Bpc-157 @ 500mcg ed
Tb-500 @ 500mcg ed
Hgh @ 2iu mon-fri

Glutathione @ ???
can anyone recommend a protocol for protective/antioxidants (have seen this dosed between 200mg-600mg 1-3 times per week)

Updated cycle

BiopoweRNA -
Test E 250 - 0.6mL e2d
Primo E 200 - 0.7ml e2d

Misc brands
Proviron 25mg ed
Aromasin 12.5mg e3d
Hcg 250iu e2d (will be adding this now/I'm young and want to minimise shutdown and use this to aid in PCT)

Opinions welcome

Let me know any feedback, constructive protocols. Wanting to improve in healing and repair. Improve health and minimise risk

Would also like some glowing skin thinking glutathione and mt2
 
willipede said:
Good news!!!

Repair protocol has arrived
- dosing

Bpc-157 @ 500mcg ed
Tb-500 @ 500mcg ed
Hgh @ 2iu mon-fri

Glutathione @ ???
can anyone recommend a protocol for protective/antioxidants (have seen this dosed between 200mg-600mg 1-3 times per week)

Updated cycle

BiopoweRNA -
Test E 250 - 0.6mL e2d
Primo E 200 - 0.7ml e2d

Misc brands
Proviron 25mg ed
Aromasin 12.5mg e3d
Hcg 250iu e2d (will be adding this now/I'm young and want to minimise shutdown and use this to aid in PCT)

Opinions welcome

Let me know any feedback, constructive protocols. Wanting to improve in healing and repair. Improve health and minimise risk

Would also like some glowing skin thinking glutathione and mt2
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willipede said:
Care package
This much bpc & tb500 should last me a good while, going to pump it until im feeling better and injury free
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willipede said:
Breakfast
4 organic weetbix, milk

Lunch 1
5 fresh eggs, 1 strip of bacon
 Lunch 2
Roast lamb salad, lettuce, carrot, cucumber and fetta. Greek dressing

Dinner
Asain chicken breast soup,rice noodles,bok choy, beans, zuchini, stock, garlic,ginger

Dinner 2
Oats, frozen rasberries, milk, 30g vanilla whey

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@willipede meat is good level and I like this asian soup bro looks legit
how much protein was this?
 
Npcclassicphysique champ said:
@willipede meat is good level and I like this asian soup bro looks legit
how much protein was this?
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Not a clue.

I dont track calories anymore, just good quality whole foods. Eat when my body tells me I'm hungry

Supplementation

Also will add in my supplement protocol for everyone

MORNING

- 500mg curcumin (anti-inflammitory)
- 600mg PEA (nerve health)
- Vit D 125mcg +k2
- Pycnogenol (massive list of benefits)


DAY
- Berberine w/meals
- 5mg Cialis pre workout
- baby aspirin pre workout

NIGHT

- 500mg curcumin
- Chief nutritins Liver tablets
- Magnesium glycinate
- zinc tablet
 
willipede said:
Not a clue.

I dont track calories anymore, just good quality whole foods. Eat when my body tells me I'm hungry

Supplementation

Also will add in my supplement protocol for everyone

MORNING

- 500mg curcumin (anti-inflammitory)
- 600mg PEA (nerve health)
- Vit D 125mcg +k2
- Pycnogenol (massive list of benefits)


DAY
- Berberine w/meals
- 5mg Cialis pre workout
- baby aspirin pre workout

NIGHT

- 500mg curcumin
- Chief nutritins Liver tablets
- Magnesium glycinate
- zinc tablet
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@willipede lots of curcumin but I would add more tudca in there with milk thistle
 
Update
Terrible sleep last night due to ongoing pain, started feeling alright around 4am until I had to get up for work at 8am

Felt better by midday and headed to a new gym to start that I will start personal training out of in the next couple months and getting to know everyone.

Will be smashing 2iu hgh before bed again tonight, 500mcg bpc, 500mcg tb500 and 200iu hcg

Training lower

Knees felt good, slowly bringing the weight back up into leg extensions. Don't want to rush so just getting some training in and pushing on other areas

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Nice job on the food, pictures.

I really like the Asian dish. You put together.
 
That's really good that you don't track calories. I agree with that.
 
berberine with meals is smart.

That will blunt any type of insulin Spike.
 
How are you liking taking Cialis pre-workout.
Do you think it also helps you with your heart health and other things?
 
Nice job on this update man. Lots of cool things happening.

Good job on this workout.
 
You should have some really good healing and recovery from that stack.
I definitely am interested in getting back on growth hormone again at my age.
 
Nice job, man, the training looks really good.

You hit your legs like a maniac.
 
Austin316 said:
Peptides look really good.
Hopefully you get good results.
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Peptide Update

I dont think its a coincidents but 2 nights in taking bpc, tb, hgh and glutathione and my chronic pain has substantially improved. Sleep quality up 100% and no lethargy in the morning

I have had long term insomnia for the last 10 years and this is the best sleep I've had in a long time.

Zyglamail said:
How are you liking taking Cialis pre-workout.
Do you think it also helps you with your heart health and other things?
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Love it pre workout, mad pumps and helps keep my blood pressure in range

caligirl85 said:
You should have some really good healing and recovery from that stack.
I definitely am interested in getting back on growth hormone again at my age.
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Recovery is already improving in after 2 days on this protocol
 
Food strong
 
willipede said:
Knees are feeling better as everyday goes on... just slowly introducing quad training so I dont rush it and do any damage

I think 2 weeks and I should be able to push close to failure on my quad dominant lifts again
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Just careful we dont want knee injuries. :D
 
willipede said:
Best pre workout meal of all time!!
2 sliced golden delicious apples
toasted granolla
Tablesoon of organic whipped 100% maple syrup
Cinnamon and nutmeg

Tasted amazing and great energy, and 500mg berberine to help with nutrient partitioning

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Very nice meal, you need to take quercitin with your berberine so it absorbs.
 
willipede said:
The dumbbell shoulder press, first exercise was shit, only 4 reps at 32.5 got 8x37.5kg last time

I do an upper lower split, 1 chest, back and shoulder emphasis day
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Thanks for the clarity here, i checked back a few pages trying to follow your shoulder routine.
 
willipede said:
What's an effective dose if quecertin

They're some on special on iherb 250mg with bromelain 125mg

Believe they work synergisticly
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Depends 200-500mgs is fine ED to start off. @willipede
 
 Update

Hit the halfway mark of my cycle

Will be increasing meals/food intake as ive gotten pretty lean and weight stalled out.

Hgh going well monday-friday 2iu pre-bed
Peptides helping repair

Glutathione instantly has made a massive difference in my sleep quality. I've suffered from insomnia for the past 10 years and always feel horrible upon waking. This makes me feel recovered in the morning
Running 200mg Mon, Wed, Fri

Meal 1.
Organic oats, milk, frozen rasberries, 30g whey vanilla protein

Cappuccino

Meal 2.
3 beef rissoles, mashed potato, beans, brocollini

Meal 3. Pre-wo
Sliced golden delicious apple, toasted oats and nuts topped with a drizzle of organic whipped maple syrup

Meal 4.
2 slice of sourdough, with 3 fresh eggs

Cappuccino

Meal 5.
Vietnemese vermicilli noodle salad
Chicken thighs, lettuce, pickled carrot, daikon radish, vermicilli noodles, homemade asain dressing

Meal 6 (dinner)
Unsure what's on the menu for dinner

Snacks.
85% dark chocolate, byron bay beef jerky
 
willipede said:
Upper training
Training going well, doing lots of mobility work and a bid cardio everyday

Massive PB for me on the shoulder press, last 2 years I was doing 0 overhead pressing due to shoulder and disc issues. Only recently added in db shoulder press

I was buggered so cut this session short

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still be careful with overheads bro ton of injuries there
 
willipede said:
Training Update

Lower- Somewhat heavy weights, felt great to finally push then a bit again.
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Fullbody - quick full body session.

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willipede said:
Scratch that last workout
Correct upper session
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bench press you gotta go up in reps bro ;) you so thick it would help to get more pump in
 
Npcclassicphysique champ said:
bench press you gotta go up in reps bro ;) you so thick it would help to get more pump in
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I'm thinking about adding in some isometric holds to help with tendon stiffness

I do like the low rep range but sometimes can irritate tendons using such heavy lifts for me and pushing things to the limit, especially from the massive increases in strength from gear

Do you think higher rep ranges will be more beneficial to tendon stiffness?
 
stevesmi said:
Another outstanding update, nice workout for sure.
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Cheers brother, 4 weeks left in this training block but might make some adjustments for the last 4. Reduce quad volume, increase hamstring volume. Increase cardio

Add isometric holds in some quad movements and chest pressing movements to help with tendon stiffness as ive had a little trouble from the big jumps in strength.

@stevesmi @Pigsy Will lowering weight and bringing rep range from 6-8 up to 10-12 help with tendons? Always seeing conflicting information
 
Update -
Was given some mots-c to guinea pig, been told it could help with my fatigue aswell as help lean out somemore.

Have struggled with insomnia most of my life, also have obstructive sleep apnoea and awaiting surgery.

Have also been using their glutathione which has made a massive difference in energy especially upon waking, sleep quality feels improved.

Currently doing 200mg Inj Glutathione Mon, Wed, & Friday, will continue for 4 weeks.

Will try 2.5mg mots-c twice per week for the next 4 weeks and see what I think. My goals are to increase energy and be shredded.
 
willipede said:
I'm thinking about adding in some isometric holds to help with tendon stiffness

I do like the low rep range but sometimes can irritate tendons using such heavy lifts for me and pushing things to the limit, especially from the massive increases in strength from gear

Do you think higher rep ranges will be more beneficial to tendon stiffness?
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i think in general higher rep ranges are better for guys like you bro
you look amazing tight, more reps like getting muscles more full and round bellies which is what you want
getting stronger just opens you up for injuries imo
 
Training update -
New PB on the incline press!!!

Felt great and smooth, at the start of this cycle I was only able to get 4 reps at 47.5kg dumbbells

Extremely happy to have put 10kg extra on each dumbell now at 57.kg for 6 reps

Goal - REP OUT THE 60's

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Meals
INCREASED FOOD INTAKE

Couple of sneak peaks at some meals, also been enjoying some 85% dark chocolate for snacks

Regular meals still including lamb & fetta salad, also have been doing an asain style chicken dish with rice noodles

Daily oats, rasberries, milk and vanilla protein

Bodyweight coming up steadily and staying mean and lean.



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willipede said:
Training update -
New PB on the incline press!!!

Felt great and smooth, at the start of this cycle I was only able to get 4 reps at 47.5kg dumbbells

Extremely happy to have put 10kg extra on each dumbell now at 57.kg for 6 reps

Goal - REP OUT THE 60's

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Meals
INCREASED FOOD INTAKE

Couple of sneak peaks at some meals, also been enjoying some 85% dark chocolate for snacks

Regular meals still including lamb & fetta salad, also have been doing an asain style chicken dish with rice noodles

Daily oats, rasberries, milk and vanilla protein

Bodyweight coming up steadily and staying mean and lean.



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Extra 10kgs+ is legit gains :D and your meals are NICE, guessing thats that Aussie wheetbix I hear about :D
 
Doing good
 
willipede said:
Training - strength going up
Upper - yesterday
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Lower - today
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Training a big win with your power.
willipede said:
Physique -

Feeling like im making some decent progress, shoulders definitely growing and starting to create the look im after

Just need to something to take some better photos in as my arms are always in the way trying to take selfies

Weight increasing, just shy of 90 kegs. Appetite is ramping up again which I'm happy abouf

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You are feeling correctly, you are making gains and getting leaner clearly here. Arms are thick, abs tight and you're bigger. :D
 
willipede said:
Cheers brother, 4 weeks left in this training block but might make some adjustments for the last 4. Reduce quad volume, increase hamstring volume. Increase cardio

Add isometric holds in some quad movements and chest pressing movements to help with tendon stiffness as ive had a little trouble from the big jumps in strength.

@stevesmi @Pigsy Will lowering weight and bringing rep range from 6-8 up to 10-12 help with tendons? Always seeing conflicting information
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are you sure you are experiencing tendon issues? it might be nerve pinching.

or if the area is inflamed due to a chronic injury it can make your tendons sore around it
 
LevButlerov said:
Training a big win with your power.

You are feeling correctly, you are making gains and getting leaner clearly here. Arms are thick, abs tight and you're bigger. :D
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Definitely very happy with progress, and still a bit of time left to really push through the end of this cycle.

Photo from today, PB on shoulder press felt great

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stevesmi said:
are you sure you are experiencing tendon issues? it might be nerve pinching.

or if the area is inflamed due to a chronic injury it can make your tendons sore around it
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Some tendon pain, but overall coming down alot. Inflammation feels like it's coming down, im eating really clean again and pumping bpc, tb and some other goods which are making me feel cracker
 
Might want to take some time away to let your soft tissues catch up.
Sounds like maybe you're getting ahead of yourself.
 
What part of your body is hurting when it comes to tendons?

You've gotten awfully bigger and stronger in a short amount of time.
 
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