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Cycle coming to an end, Help needed!!

Sinjones

Sinjones

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EVO Logger
Hey guys,

I’m wrapping up a cycle in 4 weeks and would appreciate some advice from anyone experienced with coming off cleanly.

Here’s my current protocol:

* 500mg Test/week (split into 2)

* 300mg Primo/week (split into 3)

* Anavar 50mg/day

* Clen (on/off)

* HCG 300iu 3x/week

I had low E2 earlier in the cycle — fatigue, headaches, low libido — but since starting HCG, I’ve felt much better. Things are pretty stable now.

The issue is I’ll be running out of Primo during the last week of the cycle. I’ll still have Test and HCG to finish the week, but no more Primo after a certain point.

Also worth mentioning — I have a photoshoot planned for August 25th, and my last Test shot will be August 19th.

Here’s what I’d like your input on:

* Should I taper the Test dose during the final week (like half dose), or just stop it cold?

* Should I continue HCG all the way until PCT, or stop it when the cycle ends?

* With Primo dropping off, could I run into E2 rebound issues from the HCG or the change in balance?

* I’ll be doing Clomid and Nolva for PCT — when would you suggest starting it if I taper vs. stop cold?

Just trying to land everything cleanly and avoid surprises with E2 or recovery — especially heading into the shoot. Would appreciate any advice from those who’ve been through something similar.

Thanks a lot.
 
Sinjones said:
Hey guys,

I’m wrapping up a cycle in 4 weeks and would appreciate some advice from anyone experienced with coming off cleanly.

Here’s my current protocol:

* 500mg Test/week (split into 2)

* 300mg Primo/week (split into 3)

* Anavar 50mg/day

* Clen (on/off)

* HCG 300iu 3x/week

I had low E2 earlier in the cycle — fatigue, headaches, low libido — but since starting HCG, I’ve felt much better. Things are pretty stable now.

The issue is I’ll be running out of Primo during the last week of the cycle. I’ll still have Test and HCG to finish the week, but no more Primo after a certain point.

Also worth mentioning — I have a photoshoot planned for August 25th, and my last Test shot will be August 19th.

Here’s what I’d like your input on:

* Should I taper the Test dose during the final week (like half dose), or just stop it cold?

* Should I continue HCG all the way until PCT, or stop it when the cycle ends?

* With Primo dropping off, could I run into E2 rebound issues from the HCG or the change in balance?

* I’ll be doing Clomid and Nolva for PCT — when would you suggest starting it if I taper vs. stop cold?

Just trying to land everything cleanly and avoid surprises with E2 or recovery — especially heading into the shoot. Would appreciate any advice from those who’ve been through something similar.

Thanks a lot.
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@Sinjones welcome to the EVO family :D I think to really help you we need to see your cycle log now for the next few weeks and follow you before we make any calls on your post cycle play, though I think it should be TRT.
how can you log? well you have 4 weeks left so lets start a NEW thread with your cycle log journal, share training diet sleep and history and we will guide in the cycle and after it. 15min of your time to do it and 5min to update easy.

HOW-TO LOG?
  • To really guide you we need more info from you.
  • Please share your diet, training, cardio, sleep, supplements etc log with us in a NEW thread, full log journal so our guidance is based on facts you provide.
  • It will take 15-20 minutes max.
  • We have 100s of years of experience between us, so you need to post a LOG Journal with your stats (weight,height,age, years training, cycle history) diet, training, cardio, supplement, sleep details. If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.
Please post a Log Journal asap for us

Please click the anabolic forum
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/forums/anabolic-steroids-and-peds.2/
top RIGHT, you see: +POST THREAD
click that

in Title: write your cycle name, like> My _____ Cycle Log
___ = the name of your log
example: My testosterone primobolan anavar cycle Log
in body: write your planned cycle or cycle you doing now, your diet, training and we will help you along on your cycle

here are examples of LOG Journals

https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-recomp-cut-log-2023-2024.96694/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/mobsters-training-diary.84438/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roidrage69-log.90127
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/domestic-supply-bulking-log-25homes-max.97609/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...obolan-equipoise-tbol-contest-prep-log.97138/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...osterone-deca-primobolan-hgh-cycle-log.97978/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...igas-hgh-and-bpc157-recovery-cycle-log.97594/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...enbolone-cycle-log-let-the-gains-begin.98399/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/pigsy-new-sponsor-ugl-contest-prep-log.96779/
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https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-trt-log.98284/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/16-week-testosterone-cardarine-n2guard-cycle-log.98034/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/training-log-female.90425
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...tosterone-masteron-primobolan-blast-log.98328
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/25homes-revenge-transformation-log-2023.88570/
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https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-contest-prep-log.87619/

P.S. are you listening to our podcast? if not, you should; this podcast is about steroids, sarms, peptides, and bodybuilding:
https://www.evolutionary.org/podcasts/
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/evolutionary-bodybuilding-radio/id1798623410
https://open.spotify.com/show/53q1RFTgG4h6TQHsJ4xY6Z

P.P.S. download our eBooks and learn more:
https://irongorillas.com
 
Sinjones said:
Hey guys,

I’m wrapping up a cycle in 4 weeks and would appreciate some advice from anyone experienced with coming off cleanly.

Here’s my current protocol:

* 500mg Test/week (split into 2)

* 300mg Primo/week (split into 3)

* Anavar 50mg/day

* Clen (on/off)

* HCG 300iu 3x/week

I had low E2 earlier in the cycle — fatigue, headaches, low libido — but since starting HCG, I’ve felt much better. Things are pretty stable now.

The issue is I’ll be running out of Primo during the last week of the cycle. I’ll still have Test and HCG to finish the week, but no more Primo after a certain point.

Also worth mentioning — I have a photoshoot planned for August 25th, and my last Test shot will be August 19th.

Here’s what I’d like your input on:

* Should I taper the Test dose during the final week (like half dose), or just stop it cold?

* Should I continue HCG all the way until PCT, or stop it when the cycle ends?

* With Primo dropping off, could I run into E2 rebound issues from the HCG or the change in balance?

* I’ll be doing Clomid and Nolva for PCT — when would you suggest starting it if I taper vs. stop cold?

Just trying to land everything cleanly and avoid surprises with E2 or recovery — especially heading into the shoot. Would appreciate any advice from those who’ve been through something similar.

Thanks a lot.
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you are confused catabolic steroids with anabolic steroids. you don't taper off anabolic steroids, they taper off on their own as the esters clear. it takes about 5x the half life for that to happen
 
Sinjones said:
Hey guys,

I’m wrapping up a cycle in 4 weeks and would appreciate some advice from anyone experienced with coming off cleanly.

Here’s my current protocol:

* 500mg Test/week (split into 2)

* 300mg Primo/week (split into 3)

* Anavar 50mg/day

* Clen (on/off)

* HCG 300iu 3x/week

I had low E2 earlier in the cycle — fatigue, headaches, low libido — but since starting HCG, I’ve felt much better. Things are pretty stable now.

The issue is I’ll be running out of Primo during the last week of the cycle. I’ll still have Test and HCG to finish the week, but no more Primo after a certain point.

Also worth mentioning — I have a photoshoot planned for August 25th, and my last Test shot will be August 19th.

Here’s what I’d like your input on:

* Should I taper the Test dose during the final week (like half dose), or just stop it cold?

* Should I continue HCG all the way until PCT, or stop it when the cycle ends?

* With Primo dropping off, could I run into E2 rebound issues from the HCG or the change in balance?

* I’ll be doing Clomid and Nolva for PCT — when would you suggest starting it if I taper vs. stop cold?

Just trying to land everything cleanly and avoid surprises with E2 or recovery — especially heading into the shoot. Would appreciate any advice from those who’ve been through something similar.

Thanks a lot.
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Impressive job on this layout. Primo and testosterone are some of the best. Also, I like the VAR.
 
LevButlerov said:
@Sinjones welcome to the EVO family :D I think to really help you we need to see your cycle log now for the next few weeks and follow you before we make any calls on your post cycle play, though I think it should be TRT.
how can you log? well you have 4 weeks left so lets start a NEW thread with your cycle log journal, share training diet sleep and history and we will guide in the cycle and after it. 15min of your time to do it and 5min to update easy.

HOW-TO LOG?
  • To really guide you we need more info from you.
  • Please share your diet, training, cardio, sleep, supplements etc log with us in a NEW thread, full log journal so our guidance is based on facts you provide.
  • It will take 15-20 minutes max.
  • We have 100s of years of experience between us, so you need to post a LOG Journal with your stats (weight,height,age, years training, cycle history) diet, training, cardio, supplement, sleep details. If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.
Please post a Log Journal asap for us

Please click the anabolic forum
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/forums/anabolic-steroids-and-peds.2/
top RIGHT, you see: +POST THREAD
click that

in Title: write your cycle name, like> My _____ Cycle Log
___ = the name of your log
example: My testosterone primobolan anavar cycle Log
in body: write your planned cycle or cycle you doing now, your diet, training and we will help you along on your cycle

here are examples of LOG Journals

https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-recomp-cut-log-2023-2024.96694/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/mobsters-training-diary.84438/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roidrage69-log.90127
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/domestic-supply-bulking-log-25homes-max.97609/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...obolan-equipoise-tbol-contest-prep-log.97138/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...osterone-deca-primobolan-hgh-cycle-log.97978/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...igas-hgh-and-bpc157-recovery-cycle-log.97594/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...enbolone-cycle-log-let-the-gains-begin.98399/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/pigsy-new-sponsor-ugl-contest-prep-log.96779/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-2023-2024-log.95956/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...stosterone-cardarine-cutting-cycle-log.97281/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roidragewife-female-training-log.95769/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/2024-lean-bulking-cycle-log.97986/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-trt-with-deca-durabolin-log.97962/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...bodybuilding-log-masters-55-competitor.97210/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/losiol-primobolan-testosterone-log.96581/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roughy-steroid-cycle-and-training.97944/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/fatboy999-2024-cycle-log.97936/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/testosterone-equipoise-trenbolone-cycle-log.96963/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-trt-log.98284/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/16-week-testosterone-cardarine-n2guard-cycle-log.98034/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/training-log-female.90425
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...tosterone-masteron-primobolan-blast-log.98328
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/25homes-revenge-transformation-log-2023.88570/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...n-season-sponsored-by-nordic-fusion-log.89817
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-contest-prep-log.87619/

P.S. are you listening to our podcast? if not, you should; this podcast is about steroids, sarms, peptides, and bodybuilding:
https://www.evolutionary.org/podcasts/
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/evolutionary-bodybuilding-radio/id1798623410
https://open.spotify.com/show/53q1RFTgG4h6TQHsJ4xY6Z

P.P.S. download our eBooks and learn more:
https://irongorillas.com
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Thank you for the reply. Will post a log as soon as i get the chance.
 
Sinjones said:
Hey guys,

I’m wrapping up a cycle in 4 weeks and would appreciate some advice from anyone experienced with coming off cleanly.

Here’s my current protocol:

* 500mg Test/week (split into 2)

* 300mg Primo/week (split into 3)

* Anavar 50mg/day

* Clen (on/off)

* HCG 300iu 3x/week

I had low E2 earlier in the cycle — fatigue, headaches, low libido — but since starting HCG, I’ve felt much better. Things are pretty stable now.

The issue is I’ll be running out of Primo during the last week of the cycle. I’ll still have Test and HCG to finish the week, but no more Primo after a certain point.

Also worth mentioning — I have a photoshoot planned for August 25th, and my last Test shot will be August 19th.

Here’s what I’d like your input on:

* Should I taper the Test dose during the final week (like half dose), or just stop it cold?

* Should I continue HCG all the way until PCT, or stop it when the cycle ends?

* With Primo dropping off, could I run into E2 rebound issues from the HCG or the change in balance?

* I’ll be doing Clomid and Nolva for PCT — when would you suggest starting it if I taper vs. stop cold?

Just trying to land everything cleanly and avoid surprises with E2 or recovery — especially heading into the shoot. Would appreciate any advice from those who’ve been through something similar.

Thanks a lot.
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bro primo for poosies. i want to see you hit the tren hard. and also you need red meat
 
Sinjones said:
😂😂 !! Red meat??
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bro red meat like beef and steak. how that funny? it make the man. also how many lot lizards you banging a week?
 
Sinjones said:
Hey guys,

I’m wrapping up a cycle in 4 weeks and would appreciate some advice from anyone experienced with coming off cleanly.

Here’s my current protocol:

* 500mg Test/week (split into 2)

* 300mg Primo/week (split into 3)

* Anavar 50mg/day

* Clen (on/off)

* HCG 300iu 3x/week

I had low E2 earlier in the cycle — fatigue, headaches, low libido — but since starting HCG, I’ve felt much better. Things are pretty stable now.

The issue is I’ll be running out of Primo during the last week of the cycle. I’ll still have Test and HCG to finish the week, but no more Primo after a certain point.

Also worth mentioning — I have a photoshoot planned for August 25th, and my last Test shot will be August 19th.

Here’s what I’d like your input on:

* Should I taper the Test dose during the final week (like half dose), or just stop it cold?

* Should I continue HCG all the way until PCT, or stop it when the cycle ends?

* With Primo dropping off, could I run into E2 rebound issues from the HCG or the change in balance?

* I’ll be doing Clomid and Nolva for PCT — when would you suggest starting it if I taper vs. stop cold?

Just trying to land everything cleanly and avoid surprises with E2 or recovery — especially heading into the shoot. Would appreciate any advice from those who’ve been through something similar.

Thanks a lot.
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this is something you should have had planned before cycle. but most people do not plan well so hard to really give you a hard time. you come off all hormones and then pct after 3-4 weeks
 
Sinjones said:
Hey guys,

I’m wrapping up a cycle in 4 weeks and would appreciate some advice from anyone experienced with coming off cleanly.

Here’s my current protocol:

* 500mg Test/week (split into 2)

* 300mg Primo/week (split into 3)

* Anavar 50mg/day

* Clen (on/off)

* HCG 300iu 3x/week

I had low E2 earlier in the cycle — fatigue, headaches, low libido — but since starting HCG, I’ve felt much better. Things are pretty stable now.

The issue is I’ll be running out of Primo during the last week of the cycle. I’ll still have Test and HCG to finish the week, but no more Primo after a certain point.

Also worth mentioning — I have a photoshoot planned for August 25th, and my last Test shot will be August 19th.

Here’s what I’d like your input on:

* Should I taper the Test dose during the final week (like half dose), or just stop it cold?

* Should I continue HCG all the way until PCT, or stop it when the cycle ends?

* With Primo dropping off, could I run into E2 rebound issues from the HCG or the change in balance?

* I’ll be doing Clomid and Nolva for PCT — when would you suggest starting it if I taper vs. stop cold?

Just trying to land everything cleanly and avoid surprises with E2 or recovery — especially heading into the shoot. Would appreciate any advice from those who’ve been through something similar.

Thanks a lot.
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no you don't taper steroids. they gradually release from your body. you will be fine @Sinjones
 
Trt or pct
 
What’s the ultimate goal? Do you want to cycle again? Do you want to be on trt? If HCG has helped your e2 rise with the primo to testosterone ratio pretty high chance it’ll go the other way when you drop primo so I would drop HCG then but again depends on your end goal man. PED’s are not just a 10 or 12 week cycle there is so much more to it dependant on what your future plans are!

Also let’s not throw the kitchen sink at everything keep the tren out if it’s not going to benefit you, you don’t want to feel like shit from tren then feel like shit from 0 hormones when you come off
 
milbous1 said:
😂😂🤣 I ain’t going back. I will tell them the tren made me do it and plead insanity
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bro just make sure you pick out fresh soap
 
Hitman31 said:
I’m sure I’m special but where do I find the perfect pct sticky? Put it into the search window but still not finding it. Admittedly not the most tech savvy. Apologies.
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@Hitman31 welcome to the EVO family :D you wont get help by just reading the perfect PCT thread, you need way more to PCT than that.
but here is the thread -
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/the-perfect-pct-simplified.49252/
did you cycle now or are you on a cycle now? tell us your situation.
 
Sinjones said:
I had low E2 earlier in the cycle — fatigue, headaches, low libido — but since starting HCG, I’ve felt much better. Things are pretty stable now.
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Even on 500 of test your E2 went that low from the primo? I've seen most primo cycle ratios where they run lower test and higher primo. Do you know what your E2 does when you run a test only cycle?
Sinjones said:
thank you, my issue with the PCT sticky is that some of the products required are not possible for me to source. Only thing i can by are Tamoxifen, Clomid and Adex. I will follow the PCT protocol suggested with the ancillaries that i have.
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Technically the perfect PCT says Aromasin, not Adex, not sure if that makes a diff but for whatever reason people like Aromasin better. No one ever has explained that to me.

And the "perfect PCT" supplements (N2guard and hcgenerate), cardarine, and ostarine you can just buy online if you are in the US. You don't need a source because they aren't illegal.
 
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