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Community Research Retatrutide - it’s the real deal

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nojo mackar said:
Thanks Brother.
1) Diet wise, nothing has changed. I have taken psyllium husk, Mag citrate, senna, triphala and nothing has helped. Its like gut went to sleep haha.
2) Dunno if blood sugar was tht level on Tirz, as I did not have CGM then. Food levels have infact increasd due to lack of appetite supressipn bro. So its the GIP.

What is logging mate? Is it like I ahve to put all my workouts and food on one page?
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Start it up @nojo mackar :D
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/retatrutide-its-the-real-deal.103339/post-1811808
 
@HarleyGuy adding retatrutide to his stack -
HarleyGuy said:
@Pigsy I'm 2 weeks away from completing my super blast. Then I wanna keep my gains (and know how to) but want to run a long term reta protocol for the glucagon receptor benefits and to keep the insulin sensitivity in check. This might be in your log but it's 02:00 here and I'm bagged. What dose did you start with (I'm 203lbs now about 15% BF). I know it's different for everyone but I'm looking to take some visceral fat off so just curious what worked for you. I was thinking starting at 2mg and upping from there. I don't think I'd need more than 4mg. You guys are the pros so keep me posted on this before I order.
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LevButlerov said:
If you can handle it, try EOD pins with retatrutide microdosing it really works well. @HarleyGuy
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HarleyGuy said:
Oh I can handle it, I'm a pin cushion ED as it is. That's great advice thank you. Done and done.
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LevButlerov said:
@HarleyGuy Try 0.25mgs eod and move to 0.5mgs ED to start, but lets move our convo to the Retatrutide mega thread so we don't offtopic @Pigsy log
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/retatrutide-its-the-real-deal.103339
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https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/pigsys-retatrutide-log.105320/post-1825135
 
HarleyGuy said:
Ok that sounds great. I can load a pin with 10iu being 0.25mg and it will last a while then 10iu = 0.5mg and so on.
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You should post a retatrutide touchdown pic here when you have it :D @HarleyGuy
 
LevButlerov said:
You should post a retatrutide touchdown pic here when you have it :D @HarleyGuy
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Oh you know me! Will do. Right now the best price I can find from a source I trust is Chase Irons and you can get 30mg Reta vials. It's gonna be as much as HGH in one hit but I'm convinced this shit works. If you know anywhere else I should shop around let me know.
 
HarleyGuy said:
Oh you know me! Will do. Right now the best price I can find from a source I trust is Chase Irons and you can get 30mg Reta vials. It's gonna be as much as HGH in one hit but I'm convinced this shit works. If you know anywhere else I should shop around let me know.
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I would not trust non EVO approved sources as you know :D did you talk to @Fusion Canada or other Canada suppliers for peptides? @HarleyGuy
 
HarleyGuy said:
Thanks. I actually added this one to my "watch" and disregarded the other one earlier today. I love that @Fusion Canada posted an updated price list we can all refer to when needed. It will make his life easier and he'll get less emails asking for it.
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It's a good thread, I hope to see more from @Fusion Canada
 
LevButlerov said:
Always go with @Fusion Canada or Canadian Domestics that support the EVO family :D @HarleyGuy
Fusion has a new thread up-
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/nordic-fusion-official.106502/
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I am heeding your advice @LevButlerov and already talking bulk Reta with PurPharma and sent a shout to @Fusion Canada about it too. I will 100% stay loyal to EVO... you guys have earned my trust so why would anyone deviate? I almost feel bad for all the bros getting bunk shit or rando stuff in cheap carrier oils after they decide to go off grid from here to save what, $30?
 
HarleyGuy said:
I am heeding your advice @LevButlerov and already talking bulk Reta with PurPharma and sent a shout to @Fusion Canada about it too. I will 100% stay loyal to EVO... you guys have earned my trust so why would anyone deviate? I almost feel bad for all the bros getting bunk shit or rando stuff in cheap carrier oils after they decide to go off grid from here to save what, $30?
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Smart move :D good you talking to our EVO family supporters, the Canadian domestics are really doing their best in a hard time now. @HarleyGuy
 
HarleyGuy said:
Oh you know me! Will do. Right now the best price I can find from a source I trust is Chase Irons and you can get 30mg Reta vials. It's gonna be as much as HGH in one hit but I'm convinced this shit works. If you know anywhere else I should shop around let me know.
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I get mine direct from the china wholesale now.
 

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LevButlerov said:
50/50 could be China trash. Get ready for nasty fillers and all sorts of stuff in it.
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Its legit like here. My other forums do not post garbage contacts. My mate has lost 4kg since on his reta he's only on 3ml. Im still on 2ml i have no desire to go higher yet.
 
LevButlerov said:
50/50 could be China trash. Get ready for nasty fillers and all sorts of stuff in it.
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I did my research. I don't just go "wow cheaper peptides lol. Anyone in our other forrum gets banned. It is run professionally like here.
 
Eddie Haskell said:
@Flyingandrei You’re saying EVO is not run professionally? Why exactly :) feels negative.
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Read the end part bro lol. "It is run professionally like here" meaning its run same as Evo no nonsense. Thousands of guys already buying from there and checked purity.

Same professionalism as Evo. Vendors being checked, tested.
 
Flyingandrei said:
Read the end part bro lol. "It is run professionally like here" meaning its run same as Evo no nonsense. Thousands of guys already buying from there and checked purity.

Same professionalism as Evo. Vendors being checked, tested.
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Anything possible :) I trust EVO vendors only and so should you if you’re here.
 
Flyingandrei said:
Its legit like here. My other forums do not post garbage contacts. My mate has lost 4kg since on his reta he's only on 3ml. Im still on 2ml i have no desire to go higher yet.
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losing 4kg doesn't mean it's not garbage, could easily be the nasty version of semaglutide.
 
Freki said:
I wonder if for those who struggle with food they will just put all the weight back on if they come off
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I have seen people who don't track calories and just revert back. Yes... they blow back up.
 
Flyingandrei said:
You do know majority comes from china right? And majority of raws come from china lol
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Not majority, 60% these days, many other countries supplying now.
Dont promote any non approved suppliers and dont mention them again.
You'll get EVO brothers scammed and you'll go MIA while they deal with cancer.
 
Freki said:
Ive been on short course of @ZenithHealth Retatrutide, and Its been about 11 days since last Reta pin.
Rebound hunger is definitely huge. Im eating like Im in a bulk. Not currently tracking calories but having 5 meals a day and lots of snacking inbetween. Probably about 5000 cals atm considering how much rice im consuming.
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Freki said:
I wonder if for those who struggle with food they will just put all the weight back on if they come off
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Yes that rebound hunger after stopping retatrutide hits hard, especially once appetite signals kick back in full force. At 5k calories with all the rice and snacks you’re basically running a bulk whether planned or not. For anyone who struggles with food, coming off without a plan usually does mean piling weight back on, so tapering calories or keeping some structure in place is key. @Freki
 
LevButlerov said:
Not majority, 60% these days, many other countries supplying now.
Dont promote any non approved suppliers and dont mention them again.
You'll get EVO brothers scammed and you'll go MIA while they deal with cancer.
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Bro you are mad projecting. I find many do it alot on here. Nowhere did i say here buy from this supplier only. I absolutely hate scammers! Like i said Lev i aint some dummy. The way your portraying it is that i just go buy the stuff no research no proof.

I have the proof, i know the guys that get it, ive seen multiple purity tests, bloodwork. I only do legit sources. Its just not on here obviously because its direct from the factory. Thats my choice im not telling others to make that choice.
LevButlerov said:
Not majority, 60% these days, many other countries supplying now.
Dont promote any non approved suppliers and dont mention them again.
You'll get EVO brothers scammed and you'll go MIA while they deal with cancer.
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bro we are all dying in the end. Cancer or not lol.
 
Flyingandrei said:
Bro you are mad projecting. I find many do it alot on here. Nowhere did i say here buy from this supplier only. I absolutely hate scammers! Like i said Lev i aint some dummy. The way your portraying it is that i just go buy the stuff no research no proof.

I have the proof, i know the guys that get it, ive seen multiple purity tests, bloodwork. I only do legit sources. Its just not on here obviously because its direct from the factory. Thats my choice im not telling others to make that choice.

bro we are all dying in the end. Cancer or not lol.
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China raw powder factories cut corners heavy. They don’t have strict FDA or EMA oversight, so solvents, heavy metals, even wrong hormones end up in the batches. The purity test you saw could be from one drum, but the next drum may be contaminated or underdosed. That’s why so many labs report bacterial contamination or strange byproducts from Chinese raws. Direct-from-factory always looks cheaper and cleaner on paper, but long-term it’s the most unsafe route. If you want to get cancer, go right ahead, good luck!

With this said, don't post about them anymore in this thread or any other thread. Last warning!
 
Freki said:
And also the delayed gastric emptying, i eat now and 1hr later feel empty again
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You need to add psyllium husk with each meal 1 tbps. @Freki
 
@HarleyGuy Retatrutide question for a female
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...t-deca-dbol-cycle-journal.105881/post-1842944
HarleyGuy said:
@stevesmi @LevButlerov
I need the Reta experts and I'm pretty sure you guys are up on this type of question. My girl is currently using 2.5mg of Sema weekly... if I just switch her to Reta for her next pin do you think with her Sema being at 2.5mg she could jump right into 2mg Reta?
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https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...t-deca-dbol-cycle-journal.105881/post-1843586
my answer
LevButlerov said:
Going straight from 2.5mg semaglutide to 2mg retatrutide is pushing it too fast. Retatrutide hits harder and carries more GI sides, so even if she’s been fine on sema it’s not the same compound. Safer move is start her lower, around .5 to 1mg, let the body adjust, then build up towards 2mg. That way you avoid dropping her flat with nausea or stomach issues right off the switch. :D
I would even start her with 0.25mgs eod with retatrutide to feel how she adjusts. @HarleyGuy
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HarleyGuy said:
Dang, I shoulda posted that here... duly noted for next time!
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It's no problem :D I keep this thread going with all the log comments I can find for retatrutide for members to review and learn.
 
madcap71 said:
Just wanted to add in here, the combo of Retatrutide and SLU-PP332 have made this prep a breeze. Loads more energy and zero issues with hunger.

I've stopped pinning reta now while I carb load and so far (3 meals in) the food is going down well
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That’s a solid combo, retatrutide keeps hunger crushed and SLU-PP332 giving you that clean energy really does make prep smoother. Good call pulling the reta for carb load, otherwise you’d fight to get the meals in. If food is going down easy already after 3 meals you’re set up for a strong fill out. :D I like this Reta and SLU talk, interesting!
 
@JimmyO187 found regular retatrutide use help him with alcohol use, removed desire to drink.

https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...retatrutide-cycle-journal.106472/post-1854821
JimmyO187 said:
Yeah its crazy I see so many varying dosages, I got up to 1.8mg on my cut and that’s as high as I’d go…I used to enjoy a social drink on the weekends and knew that while blasting I wanted to bring that right down and Reta literally removed any desire to drink alcohol and even soft drinks, I’m a sugar free soft drink fiend but even that has subside
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madcap71 said:
Does anyone here have any experience with tapering down the dose without rebound?

My dose has been up and down the last few weeks of my prep, it's now been taken out but will go back in to manage the post-show. I want to slowly bring that down to a low dose that I will run med-long term.
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Usually pyramid down by cutting the weekly dose 25 % every 7 days until you reach your planned cruise level. Keep constant pin frequency and avoid skipping weeks, which causes rebound from fluctuating serum levels.

Depends on compound too, you mean testosterone? @madcap71
 
madcap71 said:
No, I mean Retatrutide
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Yes the pyramid down was for retatrutide but would apply to many GLP1s. @madcap71
LevButlerov said:
Usually pyramid down by cutting the weekly dose 25 % every 7 days until you reach your planned cruise level. Keep constant pin frequency and avoid skipping weeks, which causes rebound from fluctuating serum levels.
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I just asked about test in case I misunderstood.
 
@G-Merc 80 updated his thread, he liked the schedule change on retatrutide dose
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...comp-log-changing-my-life.106206/post-1862506
G-Merc 80 said:
Thanks Brother, trying to keep consistent in pushing :-)

The change in Reta schedule has made a big impact on bowel movement, I am no longer struggling with that, which is a big win, food noise is quiet consistently (no sudden pacman urges), BUT I believe starting off with Microdosing was the right thing for me at the time as it squashed the overwhelming food noise; side note blood glucose levels are on point! after a solid meal of carbs and protein I am clearing quickly down to 5.3 nmol/L within the hour. thank you @s.gentz for the interesting article and opening up that conversation.

HGH shift now has me falling asleep easier at night as well, so another big plus.

Without the yourself (@LevButlerov), @stevesmi, @Allupfromhere and the rest of the Evo families guidance I would not be where I am now in my journey, so a huge thank you.
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@Troy643 adding his retatrutide feedback here
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...ic-source-updates-reviews.103310/post-1868238
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Honestly bro, it's my favorite compound I've ever used, by far.

I've never had any issues with putting on size, but I've always struggled cutting. I have a ravenous appetite and i'm usually miserable the entire time.
Now? Eating 2k calories a day is fine. Pretty steep deficit but literally haven't struggled for a second. Very fucking happy
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Currently cruising on 150mg of UGL's Test E a week, this seems to put my test into the higher reference range and feeling great.

Also currently on week 3 of 2mg Reta pinned once per week. This seems to work best for me as i take it Friday morning and the most appetite suppression is over the weekend so makes it very easy to behave. Thinking of titrating up to 2.5 or 3mg Friday week as that'll be the end of week 4 and I hear you shouldn't titrate up any earlier.
Also debating whether I even should, noting i am down 2.7kg in just under 3 weeks so I seem to be in the absolute sweet spot at the moment.
Any thought's lads?

Will be adding 20mg of Anavar daily PWO in the next few weeks as I lean up and get closer to 10-12% BF to make the most of it.

Currently sitting around 15-16% BF, eating 2000 calories a day and that's been perfect. Hitting macros whilst being in an aggressive cut and the 2000 calories is perfect for balancing energy with making sure I'm eating enough.
 
Troy643 said:
Currently cruising on 150mg of UGL's Test E a week, this seems to put my test into the higher reference range and feeling great.

Also currently on week 3 of 2mg Reta pinned once per week. This seems to work best for me as i take it Friday morning and the most appetite suppression is over the weekend so makes it very easy to behave. Thinking of titrating up to 2.5 or 3mg Friday week as that'll be the end of week 4 and I hear you shouldn't titrate up any earlier.
Also debating whether I even should, noting i am down 2.7kg in just under 3 weeks so I seem to be in the absolute sweet spot at the moment.
Any thought's lads?

Will be adding 20mg of Anavar daily PWO in the next few weeks as I lean up and get closer to 10-12% BF to make the most of it.

Currently sitting around 15-16% BF, eating 2000 calories a day and that's been perfect. Hitting macros whilst being in an aggressive cut and the 2000 calories is perfect for balancing energy with making sure I'm eating enough.
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You’re in a good groove with 2mg retatrutide weekly, no need to rush the jump yet since you’re still dropping almost 1kg per week clean. Hold this for 2 more weeks before we consider going up, let the compound stabilize fully before pushing higher. @Troy643

That Anavar plan fits well once you’re closer to 12%, but it can be sooner, just hard to tell with the limited info we have here.

since you’re already logging macros tight you should start a full log so we can track the change when you add it, this way we can guide you and help you properly as the big EVO family instead of guessing. :D will take you 15min to start a log.

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@panic_jam added retatrutide update, good info about safety
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...erone-hgh-retatrutide-log.107413/post-1880038
panic_jam said:
Please be careful with the retatrutide. It’s much more potent than the other drugs in that class.

Not to imply that you don’t know what you’re doing, but to anyone else that it could also pertain to…, I recently worked a call where a woman and her husband were lying in bed watching TV. He got up to go swap laundry and found her unresponsive and displaying stroke symptoms when he came back.

We checked her glucose and it sit said “LOW”

Treated her on scene with IV Dextrose until she came around. Turns out she had injected retatrutide just prior to watching TV.

Bottom line is that had her husband not found her when he did, she would be a vegetable today. Unlike other organs, the brain only uses glucose to fuel its functions, and it is very sensitive to glucose deprivation.
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@Nasser1997o2 shared his feelings on retatrutide
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...post-surgery-and-sickness.107169/post-1885086
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I feel a weird mental clarity. I used to always obsess about food, my next meal, macros and the random binge eating.

It’s given me a more healthy relationship with food. I can eat 1 cookie and be fine, instead of a whole box. I can just let meal time happen and I’m more productive.

Before I even started this cycle, I noticed that I would hyper respond to pre workout carbs. It’s like the insulin sensitivity makes better use of glycogen. I also used to suffer from lower back fat, no matter how lean I got, and that’s definitely improved. I think that’s from the visceral fat burning.

Inflammation is definitely down too. I’ve heard how it’s potentially a way to prevent Alzheimers, as it stops inflammation in the brain. So I’ll probably stay in it forever.

I can eat fine on 1mg and still get all the benefits. If I wanted to push for super shredded conditioning (after I gain some more mass), Reta at 2 or 3mg would make it a cakewalk.

A friend of mine lost 66kg for his wedding on Reta in about 8 months. Gained decades on his life expectancy.
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Nasser1997o2 said:
This drug is incredible.

It’s so much more than just a fat loss and appetite suppressant. It’s a genuinely lifestyle enhancer and life extension drug.

I’ve had friends who struggled with alcohol and gambling be able to overcome their addictions with Reta.
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I really love Reta, it has allowed me to get lean and run a deficit without the pain of hunger
 
R.AP said:
Interesting anecdote that it's helped people you know with addiction - could you go into a bit more detail here? :)
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Two of my friends has bad drinking problems.

Not enough to be alcoholics, but pretty close.

They both started Reta to get in shape (just Reta, nothing else).

They said that after a while they’d completely just “forgot” to have a drink, in the same way they’d forget to eat.

Maybe the pleasure response was turned off, in the same way people who overeat get a pleasure response from food.
 
Nasser1997o2 said:
Two of my friends has bad drinking problems.

Not enough to be alcoholics, but pretty close.

They both started Reta to get in shape (just Reta, nothing else).

They said that after a while they’d completely just “forgot” to have a drink, in the same way they’d forget to eat.

Maybe the pleasure response was turned off, in the same way people who overeat get a pleasure response from food.
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Interesting so retatrutide stops alcoholism possibly! nice @Nasser1997o2
 
Nasser1997o2 said:
Two of my friends has bad drinking problems.

Not enough to be alcoholics, but pretty close.

They both started Reta to get in shape (just Reta, nothing else).

They said that after a while they’d completely just “forgot” to have a drink, in the same way they’d forget to eat.

Maybe the pleasure response was turned off, in the same way people who overeat get a pleasure response from food.
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Unreal - good to know. Thanks for sharing bro.
 
@PurposeBuilt reported sleep issues with Retatrutide and had to go back to using tirzepatide

https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/full-body-recomp-2025-2026-journal.106203/post-1894533
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I had originally had tirzepitide 10mg that is what I my dr i had titrated me to before i went out on my own with all of this back when i was paying an arm and a leg for Zepbound. My original plan was to switch to reta, so i did 7.5 tirz and 2 reta, and then 5T and 4R, i went down as far to 3T and 6R, but I really lost all food noise suppression, and it was alot harder to stick to my diet. So i then seperated each by 3 days and did 6T and 6R. Still it was not what i was looking for.

I am pretty confident in the Reta, but i heard that it just might not work as well for someone coming off a high dose of Sema or Tirz.

Also as soon as I started Reta, my sleep slowly got worse. I thought it was the trt, and then maybe the deficit, I actually lowered the trt dose for a couple weeks with no changes.

I started take Melatonin i tried 1mg, 5mg, 10mg, i added magnesium, glycine, ashwagandha. I stopped caffeine after 2pm. Even with all those changes i kept waking at 3am.

Finally I read a couple times that reta can effect sleep on a few people. I figure some one doing all i am doing is likely to be a candidate. I have been off Reta for two weeks now and this week i have actually been sleeping till my alarm at 5am. It has been so nice. I am hope this sticks.

I doubt it was the reta alone, but it was something easy i could change and still achieve my goals.
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@Sheshredz reports insomnia from retatrutide
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...gh-anavar-and-retatrutide.107382/post-1913123
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I took a 2mg melatonin last night to ensure i had a good sleep. Today i was pretty tired and hungry. Even though i slept better, i think their is some fatigue that comes with reta. Again, like the insomnia, its hard to tell if thats directly from the reta or not.

When i first started Reta, i did get all the normal side effects. Nausea, fatigue, tummy issues and insomnia, but they eventually went away. I do randomly get those sides every now and then however. 😅
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Hey there.

Yes I do get random sleep issues with Reta. I don’t know what causes it, and it’s never consistent.

It feels completely random. It’s never the same day post administration.

I’m not sure if it’s the Reta directly or it’s the normal sleep loss that comes from being lower body fat.
 
Sheshredz said:
Hey there.

Yes I do get random sleep issues with Reta. I don’t know what causes it, and it’s never consistent.

It feels completely random. It’s never the same day post administration.

I’m not sure if it’s the Reta directly or it’s the normal sleep loss that comes from being lower body fat.
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Hey Sister,
I thought I would chime in and hopefully help with some reasons why.
Since Reta is a triple agonist it has more activity then sema or tirz.
It is a CNS stimulator for glucagon receptor unlike sema and tirz.
This increases metabolic rate and alertness.
It can elevate cortisol and adrenaline, especially in lean people or people in calorie deficit.
Low glucose levels can also cause night waking and insomnia.

Could possibly be to high of a dose also and if you are pinning in the afternoon or before bed I would 100% change your pinning to the mornings .
Hope this helps 💪💪♥️
 
Sheshredz said:
Hey there.

Yes I do get random sleep issues with Reta. I don’t know what causes it, and it’s never consistent.

It feels completely random. It’s never the same day post administration.

I’m not sure if it’s the Reta directly or it’s the normal sleep loss that comes from being lower body fat.
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what dose did you get the retatrutide sides with sleep most at? @Sheshredz
 
wye said:
Definitely had issues with Reta making it hard for me to sleep and causing mild anxiety. That’s completely changed with the addition of HGH.
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You mean adding HGH to retatrutide stack lowered anxiety and boosted sleep? :D @wye
 
wye said:
Yes, my watch was saying average sleep was 5:51 before the addition of HGH, and now its averaging 7:44 since adding the HGH. I had one night where I slept 9:17. I haven't slept that long since I was a teenager.
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Great review for these two peptides together @wye and great data for us to keep in mind. I've heard of the sleep issues from a few members with Reta and HGH does make sense to help for some with this issue.
 
awm1981 said:
I’ve now included klow with the gh and Reta. Hoping to really heal up my shoulder issues before my next run starting may 1st which will be 350 test/350 primo for 14 weeks.
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Smart move adding KLOW, keep us posted in your log how things go with this brother!
 
wye said:
Yes, my watch was saying average sleep was 5:51 before the addition of HGH, and now its averaging 7:44 since adding the HGH. I had one night where I slept 9:17. I haven't slept that long since I was a teenager.
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not bad :D
 
HarleyGuy said:
Smart move adding KLOW, keep us posted in your log how things go with this brother!
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Ok had to squash using klow no matter how much I diluted and rotated spots, subq vs IM i just got welts from it. I’m going to try just tb+bpc and see if that’s better
 
awm1981 said:
Ok had to squash using klow no matter how much I diluted and rotated spots, subq vs IM i just got welts from it. I’m going to try just tb+bpc and see if that’s better
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you had issues with pain with KLOW what brand? :D @awm1981
 
awm1981 said:
Ok had to squash using klow no matter how much I diluted and rotated spots, subq vs IM i just got welts from it. I’m going to try just tb+bpc and see if that’s better
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My best guess is this was the GHK-Cu or the brand you were using. What source was the KLOW from?

I've never had anyone report TB/BPC giving them issues at all.
 
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