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when i was new to steroids i put on 20-30 pounds over the course of a year on dbol, test and deca. 2 cycles. so yes it can be done. but was it clean gains? no. it was sloppy and i over did it.
if i could do it again i would pace myself more and stick to quality over quantity. BUT its your body and your choice. i get the 'small man syndrome' thing. growing up i was always the skinny kid. in 9th grade i was like 115lbs and went out for the football team and they wouldn't even give me my own locker and i was put in the game with 1 minute left in a blowout. so when i had the chance to add lots of mass i took it
this is a solid diet. you can add in some raw oatmeal and some protein pancakes too if you want to increase the carbs even more. but its solid ! @ProTools
i've seen people gain tons of fast weight on dbol. @ProTools it will increase your water retention very rapidly. But it's not good weight. Your blood pressure will go through the roof.
I actually own a BP machine and watch it really closely.
@ProTools bros good for sure. when you gain weight fast bp goes up fast. keep an eye on that for sure
you using support supplements and an AI i'm assuming from day 1 if you go for this hard. the water retention can come on fast. you don't want to end up with issues. @ProTools
UPDATE: Today will be day 1 back to the gym.
Waking weight: 165.3lbs Will be logging everything to my book.
Morning breakfast was pretty exact. 4 egg omelet, oats, PB, half a banana, 2 glasses of water (not cups), 1 cup of coffee. All liver and heart protection taken.
Next is prework out meal and drink.
Waking weight: 165.3lbs Will be logging everything to my book.
Morning breakfast was pretty exact. 4 egg omelet, oats, PB, half a banana, 2 glasses of water (not cups), 1 cup of coffee. All liver and heart protection taken.
Next is prework out meal and drink.
Oh yes. Rest assured, I'm 54 and intend on living well past 100!
BTW, Today was chest and triceps. I will report tonight on my meals and how my shoulders feel.
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good to see you back
waiting for more
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good keep is posted
That's awesome man. Living past 100 and still being healthy is alpha as hell.
I love overnight oats.
1 cup oats
1 cup milk-- or make sure it fully covers. For me I use just a bit more.
Honey to taste
Cinamon to taste.
Place in the frig over night.
You can sub out the honey for maple syrup...etc.
And I'm going to be dating 30 year olds.
smart job!
Update:good keep is posted
Following my diet is proven to be easy right now. I'm following it to a T. Can't wait to weigh on sunday.
Chest really sore today, and tris are feeling it to. I could fill it on pull ups. The stretch....
I took blood pressure today. I'm in normal ranges.
Today was Back and Bis. No problem with the back. I will feel it tomorrow. Biceps.... I'm VERY concerned. I did work them to exhaust. In fact the last 2 sets, I would go to exhaustion and drop the weight quickly and go to exhaustion again. I still believe I am not working them effectively. I would love to be able to say "time will tell", but I'm not about to waste this cycle. So I'm looking for help from you guys on this. I really feel I'm not contracting hard enough.
BTW Lev, I started the psyllium last night. Teaspoon enough? one per day?
Yeah, it's amazing how cheap oats are, but they're so delicious. You can add some honey to them if you want Flavor.
@ProTools Good updates bro.......
@ProTools it will all be food intake dependent. But 25 lbs is a lot to ask for. Especially if you’re wanting lean. That’s a 2 year plan
haha they like them wrinkly old men huh?
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Good update. Chest and tris clearly still smoked from push day so recovery’s on point, give it time.
For biceps, drop the weight slightly and focus on 2-3 sec squeezes at the top each rep, that’ll force the contraction you’re missing.
1 teaspoon psyllium daily is fine to start, you can move to 2 if digestion feels good. Just make sure a lot of water. @ProTools
They like those retirement dollars!
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Florida dollars lol
@ProTools grab some N2guard!
Yeah, money definitely talks, doesn't it?
Update... Day 3.
Blood pressure is in the perfect range. Chest and triceps are still sore from day 1. Back and biceps are mildly sore from day 2.
No issues with diet except for the brown rice I got SUCKS! I follow the instructions to a T. Always chewing and never puffed up.
Today was the day I have been prepping for. LEG day. I decided that I would follow the 3-1-1 on every exercise. 3 seconds down, 1 sec pause at the bottom, explode through in 1 sec. Squats went really well. Deep squat on 3-1-1 had me pumped and feeling it. Same with calves. 3-1-1... I feel it.
I fully expect to be sore for 2 days... LOL
Today:
Squats x 4 x 6-10 reps (moving up on weight each set)
Leg Press x4 x10-12 reps.
Back extensions weighted. 3 sets at 10 reps
Calf raises on raised platform. For this, I used the smith. Moved the platform slightly back. This allowed a deeper stretch on the way down. 4 sets 12-15 reps or 3-1-1.
Also, I stopped taking my organ protection at the same time as my cycle. I know take it an hour before the morning dosage, and before bed which is hours after.
Blood pressure is in the perfect range. Chest and triceps are still sore from day 1. Back and biceps are mildly sore from day 2.
No issues with diet except for the brown rice I got SUCKS! I follow the instructions to a T. Always chewing and never puffed up.
Today was the day I have been prepping for. LEG day. I decided that I would follow the 3-1-1 on every exercise. 3 seconds down, 1 sec pause at the bottom, explode through in 1 sec. Squats went really well. Deep squat on 3-1-1 had me pumped and feeling it. Same with calves. 3-1-1... I feel it.
I fully expect to be sore for 2 days... LOL
Today:
Squats x 4 x 6-10 reps (moving up on weight each set)
Leg Press x4 x10-12 reps.
Back extensions weighted. 3 sets at 10 reps
Calf raises on raised platform. For this, I used the smith. Moved the platform slightly back. This allowed a deeper stretch on the way down. 4 sets 12-15 reps or 3-1-1.
Also, I stopped taking my organ protection at the same time as my cycle. I know take it an hour before the morning dosage, and before bed which is hours after.
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Good to see you dialing in tempo with the 3-1-1 work, that’s how you build control and density through legs and calves. Squats and presses both sound strong and that soreness coming will be the right kind.
Nice fix spacing the organ support apart from the cycle doses, that timing helps absorption and liver stress balance. Ditch that rice brand and grab jasmine or basmati next run, digestion will feel smoother and meals won’t drag.
Update.
1- Still slightly sore in my chest from Monday. Tris are good.
2- Back and bis are sore from Tuesday.
3- Legs were yesterday. The hamstring and glutes are sore. 3-1-1 on full squats did it.
Today was Shoulders, Traps, and abs. And as you all know, my shoulders are the reason took a break for the past month and a half. I am perfectly fine so far. No issues any day. So today was a focus on them and I admit I was careful. I went for lower weight with the 3-1-1. I also used shoulder friendly exercises like landmines. I did slightly feel it every now and then and it always refocused my form. I will know more tomorrow if it's all good.
Food is still on point. I'm fighting the urge to go weigh... LOL.. that's sunday.
1- Still slightly sore in my chest from Monday. Tris are good.
2- Back and bis are sore from Tuesday.
3- Legs were yesterday. The hamstring and glutes are sore. 3-1-1 on full squats did it.
Today was Shoulders, Traps, and abs. And as you all know, my shoulders are the reason took a break for the past month and a half. I am perfectly fine so far. No issues any day. So today was a focus on them and I admit I was careful. I went for lower weight with the 3-1-1. I also used shoulder friendly exercises like landmines. I did slightly feel it every now and then and it always refocused my form. I will know more tomorrow if it's all good.
Food is still on point. I'm fighting the urge to go weigh... LOL.. that's sunday.
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if you're sore, you need to slow down a bit, try not to train sore even if it's upper vs lower. @ProTools
stay careful we dont want the injury to get bad
Update.
-Shoulders are all good. That's huge for me. I will continue on the KLOW for the full 8 weeks.
-Due to schedule, yesterday ended up being my rest day. Very little soreness anywhere.
-Today is research day and workout. Specifically I'm looking for recovery information. I know it was my first week back in roughly 1.5 to 2 months, but I felt like the recovery was a bit too long. Any help?
-Shoulders are all good. That's huge for me. I will continue on the KLOW for the full 8 weeks.
-Due to schedule, yesterday ended up being my rest day. Very little soreness anywhere.
-Today is research day and workout. Specifically I'm looking for recovery information. I know it was my first week back in roughly 1.5 to 2 months, but I felt like the recovery was a bit too long. Any help?
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Good to hear the shoulders are solid and pain free again, that’s progress.
For recovery, focus on 7-8 hrs sleep, protein near 250 g ed, and add 5 g creatine plus electrolytes with bone broth daily. @ProTools
1 WEEK update!
Feed back is wanted
1- Started at 165.3 waking weight. Today I am at 168.4. This actually concerns me some what. 3.1 pounds in a week is alot. Thoughts?
2- Today is the first day of upping dbol from 10mg to 15mg (as of now, I do not plan on going past this amount). I will divide this by 3 doses. 5mg 45 minutes after waking(around 6:30am). 5mg at 12 noon. 5mg at late afternoon... around 3 or 4.
3- Blood pressure is still great. No issues. Diet is the same. Zero junk foods.
4- Sleep is a bit off. I need a solution. I hear certain strain on MJ gummies with melatonin works... but not really something I want to do. Suggestions??
Thanks all.... look forward to the feedback... harsh or not
Feed back is wanted
1- Started at 165.3 waking weight. Today I am at 168.4. This actually concerns me some what. 3.1 pounds in a week is alot. Thoughts?
2- Today is the first day of upping dbol from 10mg to 15mg (as of now, I do not plan on going past this amount). I will divide this by 3 doses. 5mg 45 minutes after waking(around 6:30am). 5mg at 12 noon. 5mg at late afternoon... around 3 or 4.
3- Blood pressure is still great. No issues. Diet is the same. Zero junk foods.
4- Sleep is a bit off. I need a solution. I hear certain strain on MJ gummies with melatonin works... but not really something I want to do. Suggestions??
Thanks all.... look forward to the feedback... harsh or not
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Solid first week, the 3 lb jump is normal early water and glycogen from dbol so no need to stress.
Keep BP steady and measure it. @ProTools
Sleep can drop on orals, try magnesium glycinate 400 mg before bed with zinc and valerian root.
or low dose melatonin supp 2 mg with cbd. @BeMe does well with cbd and sleep.
I have all that. Will try tonight.
I never had any luck with melatonin, but CBD will help you fall asleep and stay asleep. It also helps grow a booty lol...sorry just kiddn on that one, but it does really help with sleep.
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Try it let us know
No. It wont be like that throughout. Take it as a plus
@ProTools Literally a different sized bowel movement or urinating at a different time during the night can cause your body weight to fluctuate even if you're testing it's first thing in the morning. It's completely normal, man. I would not hold too much into that.
the feedback is terrific. don't get panicked over 1 weight reading. lets see if there is any consistency towards that. you could be down 2 pounds tomorrow @ProTools
bros 1 week update is spot on. the blood pressure on point @ProTools the healthy diet is paying off with zero junk food
@ProTools as long as the blood pressure is good. it means your body is healthy. sorry about the sleep issues. you doing any meditation before bed and relaxing?
try some blue blocker glasses before bed. that will help boost your melatonin without supps. does it in a clean way too @ProTools
@ProTools not unusual for the sudden weight gain at all!
@ProTools levs got ya covered man. alot of great knowledge in that guy.
Update:
I moved up on dbol to 15mg split into 3 dosages per day. So Keeping an eye on BP. Today it is 120/76. So no issues. I see no reason to move past that amount of DBOL (also Test cyp 1x per week at 250mg). This is in week 2, and some where around week 4 I will transition to TBOL and wean off DBOL.
If you guys see anything wrong with this, feel free to speak up. I do not wear my feelings on my shirt
I moved up on dbol to 15mg split into 3 dosages per day. So Keeping an eye on BP. Today it is 120/76. So no issues. I see no reason to move past that amount of DBOL (also Test cyp 1x per week at 250mg). This is in week 2, and some where around week 4 I will transition to TBOL and wean off DBOL.
If you guys see anything wrong with this, feel free to speak up. I do not wear my feelings on my shirt
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That’s a clean setup. 15 mg dbol split through the day with 250 mg test is mild enough to get good strength and fullness without wrecking BP or e2.
The plan to switch to tbol around week 4 is smart since it’s a smoother oral with less bloat. Keep taurine 3-5 g daily for pumps and watch ALT/AST around week 5 to make sure the liver’s holding up. Though I would get n2guard if you can get it for this oral run. @ProTools
Update: End of Week 2
Weight is up to 170.1 from 168.3. So less weight than in week 1, and I assume thats normal.
WORKOUTS:
-Shoulders are still good.
-Am pushing and pulling more, so strength is going up.
RESULTS:
- Chest is 2" bigger
- Arms .5" bigger
- Waist .25" bigger
- Hips (includes the glutes) up 1" bigger
- Upper legs no change
- Calves up a little .40"
Over all, I'm happy. I fully expect to continue to grow. I'm up over 6 pounds in 2 weeks, and at that rate That would be 18 lbs at the end of the DBOL(4 more weeks) with with 6-8 weeks left.
MEALS:
I have been pretty steady. I did cut carbs back (not out) on my day off. I also had a slight cheat day. Game day... wife makes a great corn dip. So blame her!
Weight is up to 170.1 from 168.3. So less weight than in week 1, and I assume thats normal.
WORKOUTS:
-Shoulders are still good.
-Am pushing and pulling more, so strength is going up.
RESULTS:
- Chest is 2" bigger
- Arms .5" bigger
- Waist .25" bigger
- Hips (includes the glutes) up 1" bigger
- Upper legs no change
- Calves up a little .40"
Over all, I'm happy. I fully expect to continue to grow. I'm up over 6 pounds in 2 weeks, and at that rate That would be 18 lbs at the end of the DBOL(4 more weeks) with with 6-8 weeks left.
MEALS:
I have been pretty steady. I did cut carbs back (not out) on my day off. I also had a slight cheat day. Game day... wife makes a great corn dip. So blame her!
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Just a quick update on my workout today. Due to my shoulder issues, I had not been pushing chest day hard. I only would go to 135, and that was it. I simply was not able to do more. Today, My last set was 185 x 8. I never once felt my shoulders were an issue and I honestly feel like I could do more. After 9 hours, still no issues with my shoulders..... Pretty stoked right now.
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Good progress, that’s a strong return to pressing. Moving from 135 to 185x8 pain ree shows the shoulder stability work is paying off.
well done!
Week 3 is in the books.
Weight 174.0.
My last report, I mentioned benching 185, which is a massive step for me considering limited work with shoulder issues. I duplicated that yesterday, and in fact went up to 205 on my bench. 3 reps at the end of my sets.
In week 3, I used 15mg of DBOL divided up to 3 doses with last dose between 3 and 4pm. My diet has not been the best this week in timing. Work caused me to get off timing a bit this week. to be clear, what I mean is my 7:30 meals have been later...
I do feel like I am gaining too much too fast. Especially in the areas where I tend to hold fat. Stomach and under arms between lats and chest. But before we go there, I know I am gaining muscle mass too and I am looking for opinions on moving my diet to a maintain this weight plus 100 calories or if you think this will shed once I ever the cut phase?
Next week, I start adding TBOL at 10mgs per day. On week 5, I will move that to 15mg while reducing DBOL to 10mg (from 15mg).
Any help or advice is much appreciated!
Weight 174.0.
My last report, I mentioned benching 185, which is a massive step for me considering limited work with shoulder issues. I duplicated that yesterday, and in fact went up to 205 on my bench. 3 reps at the end of my sets.
In week 3, I used 15mg of DBOL divided up to 3 doses with last dose between 3 and 4pm. My diet has not been the best this week in timing. Work caused me to get off timing a bit this week. to be clear, what I mean is my 7:30 meals have been later...
I do feel like I am gaining too much too fast. Especially in the areas where I tend to hold fat. Stomach and under arms between lats and chest. But before we go there, I know I am gaining muscle mass too and I am looking for opinions on moving my diet to a maintain this weight plus 100 calories or if you think this will shed once I ever the cut phase?
Next week, I start adding TBOL at 10mgs per day. On week 5, I will move that to 15mg while reducing DBOL to 10mg (from 15mg).
Any help or advice is much appreciated!
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Good work hitting 205lbs bench, that’s clean power and shoulder is handling load well.
@ProTools Keep dbol at 15mg for now but if you want to add tbol you need to drop the dbol imo
You’re gaining a bit fast so hold macros steady for now.
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Yeah brother steady on the increase both with body weight, as you dont want to have to cut more then needed later and risk muscle retention, and also the increase in weights too. Its hard not to push when the body feels like its ready to go its just your connective tissue might not feel the same way lol. You dont wanna learn that the hard way either.
Thats food for thought. Maybe incorporate more exercises designed for connective tissue.
I will rework my diet for my new weight and goals for the next 8 weeks.
Good work hitting 205lbs bench, that’s clean power and shoulder is handling load well.
Keep dbol at 15mg for now but if you want to add tbol you need to drop the dbol imo
You’re gaining a bit fast so hold macros steady for now.
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Good deal. Will rework the diet.
Btw... my Tren E came in.
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picsawesome
and tren td pics please
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Bro definitely go easy when that tren hits hahaha 
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Pharmaqo.. it will be used at the end of the cycle. Also, I will only use .5ml per week. So 100mg instead of the 200.pic of tren looks hot
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IMO you should start the tren now just micro dose it 20mgs eod @ProTools
you got it from domestic-supply.com?
Beast mode time!
She's aware!Bro definitely go easy when that tren hits hahaha
Mid week update. Feeling good. Have added the TBOL at 10mgs. So I am at 15mg DBOL(divided into 3 doses) and 10mg TBOL once per day.
The reason for the update is my weight. I had reached 174.4. Today I stepped on the scale because I am monitoring the effects of adding the TBOL. I'm down to 173.3. I measure and weight every sunday. My cycle is based on Monday to Sunday. Any changes are made starting Monday in the am.
My diet is the same and yes I know, weight can fluctuate. But since starting this cycle, that's not really been the case.
The question is this. Is the TBOL offsetting the DBOL's water retention? 1 pound since monday. I'm ok with that, just want to make sure adjustments are not needed. @LevButlerov
The reason for the update is my weight. I had reached 174.4. Today I stepped on the scale because I am monitoring the effects of adding the TBOL. I'm down to 173.3. I measure and weight every sunday. My cycle is based on Monday to Sunday. Any changes are made starting Monday in the am.
My diet is the same and yes I know, weight can fluctuate. But since starting this cycle, that's not really been the case.
The question is this. Is the TBOL offsetting the DBOL's water retention? 1 pound since monday. I'm ok with that, just want to make sure adjustments are not needed. @LevButlerov
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Good update and that small drop is normal since tbol runs drier and can flatten out a bit of dbol water early in the week. @ProTools
Hold your doses steady until Sunday and judge by strength in the gym not the 1 lb shift which means nothing.
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Weekly Update:
Weight: 172.4 Again, I assume that is the TBOL effect.
Am working on adjusting my diet based off current weight. I will post those changes tonight.
Current Dosages: Starting this week.
-15 DBOL divided into 3 doses
-20 TBOL
The below has not changed and will not change this entire cycle:
-25mg divided into 2 doses of Proviron(mesterolone) (this keeps me..... active and estrogen/gyno in check so far. No issues)
-250mg Test Cyp per week.
-2.5mg tadafil for heart health and sex.
-All the support things needed to protect liver etc....
I am looking forward to this week I feel it's going to be awesome.
Weight: 172.4 Again, I assume that is the TBOL effect.
Am working on adjusting my diet based off current weight. I will post those changes tonight.
Current Dosages: Starting this week.
-15 DBOL divided into 3 doses
-20 TBOL
The below has not changed and will not change this entire cycle:
-25mg divided into 2 doses of Proviron(mesterolone) (this keeps me..... active and estrogen/gyno in check so far. No issues)
-250mg Test Cyp per week.
-2.5mg tadafil for heart health and sex.
-All the support things needed to protect liver etc....
I am looking forward to this week I feel it's going to be awesome.
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Good update and the setup looks solid, 250 mg test with 15 mg dbol and 20 mg tbol will hit fast once the diet is dialed.
what cycle organ liver support you using? @ProTools
@ProTools this is an excellent setup. i have done dbol/tbol together like that. it is quite good and low sides
Yeah, I think the choice to blend at lower mgs is great.
yeah i did it 20/20 before
2,5mg or 25mg??
2.5mg
nice on the weekly updates. test and proviron is a good mix. reacts well to people! @ProTools
does 2.5mgs really make a difference? i know some dudes take 50mgs or more. @ProTools some people are good reactors to drugs though.
2 things. Mesterolone is known to help while keeping estrogen in check. The 2.5mg, for me, does great. I pitch a tent every morning.
But I mainly take that for heart protection.
@ProTools bros nice job on the test and cialis. that good for heart for sure. won't go wrong adding it
i'm sure you are a sex monster mixing the cialis and test like that. plus the proviron too! a lot of people get super good results on them
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I know she does!!! Lol
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2x/week best for clients, I have my guys do more core work and cardio @ProTools
Time cardio diet
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Same here and for my clients as well! 2x/ week is sustainable and more than enough to see some quality results. Even with as little as 3-4 brutal sets/ session.2x/week best for clients, I have my guys do more core work and cardio @ProTools
Time cardio diet
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Im twice a week like @LevButlerov said. Also incorporating exercises that utilise core stability and not becoming reliant on a belt for everything. Weighted an non weighted too.
Unfortunately we cant spot reduce bodyfat brother, fat just comes off overall and some places take longer then other.
However you can reduce bodyfat% in a specific area by increasing the muscle mass of that particular muscle.
Pairing fat loss - diet, cardio with resistance training and for enough time Really is the basic science though.
Twice weekly, mixture of decline crunches, machines, cable movements all weighted.
Stay consistent with diet and training and it will come off, you cant choose where sadly
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for sure dont need much
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I wouldn't do too many twists tbh, better do planks. @ProTools
Ever tried Dragon Flags?
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For clients I mainly have them do planks, I find a lot of side core work widens them up too much.
This is definitely something to pay attention too if side core work is dominant. Can give a blocky appearance long term as it widens.
I do abs 3x per week. Machine crunches and hanging leg raises. 12 sets total per week.
As far as the fat storage goes, the only way to get rid of fat is to diet more and drop BF. I hold fat on my back/love handles and it only goes away when I am pretty lean. You can't target specific areas to lose fat. It's just genetics unfortunately.
@ProTools really like the update and the planning of the peds
Nice man. We want to hear that.
Thanks man!
You sure there's not a cream?? LOL! JK. Mainly I'm wanting to know what BF % should I be looking for.
No way to tell you. We are all different. I can be 15%bf and my legs are still peeled. Just makes me look fatter on top.
Nice man. Thanks for that info.
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