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Veteran Thread The Perfect Post Cycle Therapy (PCT) - EXPLAINED

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Hi guys, I have some problem. After cycle my testosterone ~8nmol/l I feel like a crap, I try clomiphene and it's realy help me, but I got very bad vision side effects, then I try nolvadex and I got biggest cystitics acne ever, so maybe there is some other SERM witch wouldn't make this sides? I need good PCT?


What was your cycle? How long? Etc etc...
And yes, no matter what you're cycling a proper PCT is necessary
 
Hi guys, I have some problem. After cycle my testosterone ~8nmol/l I feel like a crap, I try clomiphene and it's realy help me, but I got very bad vision side effects, then I try nolvadex and I got biggest cystitics acne ever, so maybe there is some other SERM witch wouldn't make this sides? I need good PCT?
I had the same issue with Nolva. I took both clomid and Nolva over 5 weeks and Nolva broke me out in cystic acne all over my upper body. Shit was rough. Things are coming back to normal but now I have a ton of scarring. Started Accutane im not gonna put up with this shit. Acne makes taking steroids completly pointless. You finally have the body ur happy with but at the end u can't even show it off because it's covered on lesions :/

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Nolva sucks. Clomid or Torem is the way to go. Aromasin is superior to adex. There is no need for a "pre-pct". Only purpose this serves is wasting money on overpriced and overhyped NTBM products. Hope this helps.
 
This is a great thread indeed. Do i have to do this pct even after a light 6-8 week Anavar (40mg ed) only cycle?
 
Hi guys apologize in advance for spelling'm from Slovakia needs advice on PCT cycle you say to this schedule: Exemstan = 25 mg 14 days, 12.25 days 7 mg, 6.125 mg for 5 days
Tamoxifen 20mg = 14 days, 10 days 10 mg
Salbutamol = 12 mg to 16 mg fixed dose for 30 days
Clomid 100 mg = 14 days, 7 days 50 mg
 
If a person does 1 cc a week of test e or c for ten weeks what do you guys recomend

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Dumb question....it's been about it's been 15-20 yrs since my last cycle and now I'm currently TRT Test Cyp 100mg/wk for the past 3yrs. If I run a cycle of Wk1-6 dbol 50mg qd
Wk1-8 Tren Ace 100 qod
Wk1-12 Test Cyp 400-750

Would I still need or benefit from PCT?


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Thanks for this. I thought I'd save money by doing a light PCT after my first cycle but that's probably really stupid. Just got done shelling out $$$ for more PCT products.
 
Looking for a PCT for Var/ Test-e 250 stack. Any infor will help thanks. Also going to add N2gaurd and HGCgenerate in there
 
I am not sure as to what I need for my pct following my my first sus,DECA cycle? Please help. Thanks wilbo
 
Great read. I always found that youd get mixed reviews on the conventional PCT of Nolva clomid. will give this a guy my next run.

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Hi


Would I need a PCT after

1-12 week, LGD-4033 25 mg per day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 week, MK-2866 10 mg per day, dosed once a day in the a.m.


and if, what?

/Jones
 
Hi


Would I need a PCT after

1-12 week, LGD-4033 25 mg per day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 week, MK-2866 10 mg per day, dosed once a day in the a.m.


and if, what?

/Jones

You would need PCT after any length of time with Anabolicum (LGD). At least a 4 week mini-pct with HCGenerate ES + Clomid. (5 tabs + 25mgs)
 
so while leaf through the last 20 pages or so, I've heard people running just nolvadex or clomid for pct for 4 weeks in a tapering dose. does someone need everything on the first page for every cycle, depending on length? 10 weeks less stuff, longer ones more?
 
Hi guys this is the first time I've ever used a forum so don't even k or if this is the correct place to post this so any help would be greatly appreciated. I'm half way through a cycle of test e running 250 mg twice a week for 12 weeks and 100 mg of anavar ed and 12.5 mg of aromasin ed. im very keen to give sarms (lg mk) a try and I'm thinking of cutting my cycle short. Looking for advice on time I have to wait, best pct etc or if this is even a good idea at all. I have chlomid and nolvadex waiting. I'm also starting to get the early stages of gyno I've noticed this week
 
Brilliant reading! I want to recover my natural testosterone levels and this post is the perfect guideline for me. Thanks and keep posting things like this.
 
Nolvadex Clomid , several times 1000-1500iu HCG / Week is also ok if you don' t use Hcg in you C
 
If you pick the perfect PCT it will help you to recover your natural testosterone levels. By the way, thank you so much for that great thread!
 
Hey so i just started this not sure if im doing things right and the more i read. The more i am understanding the importance of doing this right. So i just started 1 ml of each tren a 100 and sustanon 270 twice a week. Can you tell me what i should be doing while on this very 1st cycle and what i should do to get off cycle. Thank You im 5 foot 8 185 35 yrs old in good shape. Thanks
 
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I've run many test only cycles in the past and never gotten any real gyno issues but I have had tender nips and they'll stay hard all the time, is that an indicator to run an AI?
 
I've run many test only cycles in the past and never gotten any real gyno issues but I have had tender nips and they'll stay hard all the time, is that an indicator to run an AI?

bro run aromasin before doing a cycle...or letrozole
 
I've run many test only cycles in the past and never gotten any real gyno issues but I have had tender nips and they'll stay hard all the time, is that an indicator to run an AI?

you need to run blood work, see my signature for how you can do it
 
So I'm on the tail end of my first cycle.
I am taking 100 - 125 mg of Test Prop EOD (only reason it fluctuates is because the max I take in the delt is 100, glutes and quads I pin 125)
Been on it for 11 weeks now - got about 1 1/2 weeks left
I finished my Winny cycle of 50 mg per day for the first 50 days (i started it with the Test - which in retrospect I should have taken it on the tail end of the cycle)
I have also been taking an AI and N2Guard .

My planned PCT is :
(right after my last pin)
HCGenerate ES (5 tabs daily)
Nolvadex 40/30/20/10
Clomid 50 mg - 30 days
Letrozol 1.25 mg - every 3 days

Does this sound like a good stating point?
 
So I'm on the tail end of my first cycle.
I am taking 100 - 125 mg of Test Prop EOD (only reason it fluctuates is because the max I take in the delt is 100, glutes and quads I pin 125)
Been on it for 11 weeks now - got about 1 1/2 weeks left
I finished my Winny cycle of 50 mg per day for the first 50 days (i started it with the Test - which in retrospect I should have taken it on the tail end of the cycle)
I have also been taking an AI and N2Guard .

My planned PCT is :
(right after my last pin)
HCGenerate ES (5 tabs daily)
Nolvadex 40/30/20/10
Clomid 50 mg - 30 days
Letrozol 1.25 mg - every 3 days

Does this sound like a good stating point?

halve your SERM dosages and take out letro
 
question here? I’m running a cycle of test-400 for 12 weeks at 1.5 ml/week. .75ml twice a week stacked with 30 mg/ed dianabol. Also taking aromasin 12.5 mg/eod while on my cycle. So my question is after my test/dbol cycle How long do I wait to start my pct support? I’ll be taking 100mg/day clomid for 2 weeks and 40 mg/day of nolvadex for 2 weeks. Week 3-4 I’ll be taking 50 mg/day clomid and 20 mg/day nolvadex. Should I also be taking the aromasin during my pct? If not when should I quit taking aromasin during my test cycle to not cause any complications during my pct?
 
question here? I’m running a cycle of test-400 for 12 weeks at 1.5 ml/week. .75ml twice a week stacked with 30 mg/ed dianabol. Also taking aromasin 12.5 mg/eod while on my cycle. So my question is after my test/dbol cycle How long do I wait to start my pct support? I’ll be taking 100mg/day clomid for 2 weeks and 40 mg/day of nolvadex for 2 weeks. Week 3-4 I’ll be taking 50 mg/day clomid and 20 mg/day nolvadex. Should I also be taking the aromasin during my pct? If not when should I quit taking aromasin during my test cycle to not cause any complications during my pct?

Immediately after your last injection you start the cardarine, ostarine and natural testosterone booster.

2 weeks after your last injection you start the clomid and nolvadex
 
Since I’m using test prop (which is a short eater) I can start clomid and nolvadex right after my last pin ...correct?

you should start the SERM's as the ester is leaving to give you a soft landing
 
My name is Quenten and live in Suriname a country in South America just above Brasil.

I intend to start an 8 week Steroid stack cycle but would like to get your opinion on this and the best PCT plan for this.

My 8 weeks stack looks like this:

• Mass Mix 1 350 mg / ml or Test Mix 300 mg / ml & N2Guard
• Tri Trenbolone (200 mg or 250 mg or 300 mg / ml)
• Superdrol 350 plus (4 weeks Supply)

I look forward to your positive response and advice.

In advance I thank you for your professional advice.
 
My name is Quenten and live in Suriname a country in South America just above Brasil.

I intend to start an 8 week Steroid stack cycle but would like to get your opinion on this and the best PCT plan for this.

My 8 weeks stack looks like this:

• Mass Mix 1 350 mg / ml or Test Mix 300 mg / ml & N2Guard
• Tri Trenbolone (200 mg or 250 mg or 300 mg / ml)
• Superdrol 350 plus (4 weeks Supply)

I look forward to your positive response and advice.

In advance I thank you for your professional advice.

The same post 4x. Trolling much?
 
12 week test E en Tri tren stack cycle

hallo iedereen ik ben begonnen met een test E en tri tren voor 12 weken. ik zou graag willen weten of het nodig is HCgenerate te gebruiken tijdens mijn cycle. en N2guard tijdens mijn pct . ik vraag omdat hcgenerate en n2guard moeilijk te vinen is in surinamr. ik gebruik voor mijn pct nolvadex, clomid.

groetjes, Julen Quenten
 
hallo iedereen ik ben begonnen met een test E en tri tren voor 12 weken. ik zou graag willen weten of het nodig is HCgenerate te gebruiken tijdens mijn cycle. en N2guard tijdens mijn pct . ik vraag omdat hcgenerate en n2guard moeilijk te vinen is in surinamr. ik gebruik voor mijn pct nolvadex, clomid.

groetjes, Julen Quenten

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hello everyone I started with a test E and tri ad for 12 weeks. I would like to know if it is necessary to use HCgenerate during my cycle. and N2guard during my pc. I ask because hcgenerate and n2guard is hard to find in surinamr. i use nolvadex, clomid for my pc.

Greetings, Julen Quenten
 
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hello everyone I started with a test E and tri ad for 12 weeks. I would like to know if it is necessary to use HCgenerate during my cycle. and N2guard during my pc. I ask because hcgenerate and n2guard is hard to find in surinamr. i use nolvadex, clomid for my pc.

Greetings, Julen Quenten

They will ship them to you via the post. Look on Amazon.
 
I love the way you put it and for sure I understand it.. but I like to know one thing
Can I buy a testbooster as an cheaper alternative for the hcg? And for the n2guard a fish oil and and an decent multivitamin?
 
I love the way you put it and for sure I understand it.. but I like to know one thing
Can I buy a testbooster as an cheaper alternative for the hcg? And for the n2guard a fish oil and and an decent multivitamin?
You can do whatever you want bro. Theres a ton of options out there
 
I love the way you put it and for sure I understand it.. but I like to know one thing
Can I buy a testbooster as an cheaper alternative for the hcg? And for the n2guard a fish oil and and an decent multivitamin?

Yes you can do that and that's what I usually recommend, although I know some people will swear about using hcg when running harsher compounds like tren.
 
Hi everyone I will start with my steroid stack cycle after a lot of reading and doing research.

Week 1-4 Sdrol.
Aromasin 20 mg/day / spilt dose.

Because sdrol is a little bit harsh and toxic for the liver. I am planning to use a liver support; *Tudca in my whole steroid cycle and also in my PCT.

Week 4-12
*Sustanon 250 mg.
500 mg/wk. Pin e4d.
*Proviron and also during my PCT.
*Aromasin reduce dose to 12.5 mg.

*In the last 4 weeks of the cycle I like to use Winstrol.

My PCT will look like this:
What you mention in this article the perfect PCT.

I send you this to be advice I. Learning and I am open for critic because I want to do it good. So please advice me on my stack cycle and my PCT. Before I kick start with it.

I will appreciate your professional advice alot.
 
Hi everyone I will start with my steroid stack cycle after a lot of reading and doing research.

Week 1-4 Sdrol.
Aromasin 20 mg/day / spilt dose.

Because sdrol is a little bit harsh and toxic for the liver. I am planning to use a liver support; *Tudca in my whole steroid cycle and also in my PCT.

Week 4-12
*Sustanon 250 mg.
500 mg/wk. Pin e4d.
*Proviron and also during my PCT.
*Aromasin reduce dose to 12.5 mg.

*In the last 4 weeks of the cycle I like to use Winstrol.

My PCT will look like this:
What you mention in this article the perfect PCT.

I send you this to be advice I. Learning and I am open for critic because I want to do it good. So please advice me on my stack cycle and my PCT. Before I kick start with it.

I will appreciate your professional advice alot.

Don't include proviron in your PCT. It's a steroid and thus, suppressive
 
Like Mobster said let's keep this thread mainly focused on PCT. If you have other questions regarding your cycle please post up a new thread and we'll help you out.
But for this time, your cycle looks okay but I don't understand why are you not starting sustanon from the week 1?
 
Ok I will not put proviron in my cycle but look the rest oke? Cause I really don't wanna mess my self up

proviron not being suppressive is something i have seen evidence of both .. i honestly do not know the true answer, it is variant it seems
 
Where can I get Cardarine, Ostarine and N2Guard? Anabolic store doesn't have it.

How do I cut clomid tabs for the final week 12.5 mcg dose which is 1/4 tab?

When it says kick start with HCG, when do you start taking it to officially begin PCT? Day you do last pin, the next morning, the Monday following to start week by calendar, pick a day?

For Aromasin, it looks like I will only need about 6 tabs to cover all split tab doses for the 4 weeks. The box on anabolic store comes with 30 tabs for $72...seems like I'm going to be wasting about 24 pills and $58. Is there something comparable that won't waste all that money? Or can I just not take Aromasin?
 
Where can I get Cardarine, Ostarine and N2Guard? Anabolic store doesn't have it.

How do I cut clomid tabs for the final week 12.5 mcg dose which is 1/4 tab?

When it says kick start with HCG, when do you start taking it to officially begin PCT? Day you do last pin, the next morning, the Monday following to start week by calendar, pick a day?

For Aromasin, it looks like I will only need about 6 tabs to cover all split tab doses for the 4 weeks. The box on anabolic store comes with 30 tabs for $72...seems like I'm going to be wasting about 24 pills and $58. Is there something comparable that won't waste all that money? Or can I just not take Aromasin?

Esarms.com
 
Where can I get Cardarine, Ostarine and N2Guard? Anabolic store doesn't have it.

How do I cut clomid tabs for the final week 12.5 mcg dose which is 1/4 tab?

When it says kick start with HCG, when do you start taking it to officially begin PCT? Day you do last pin, the next morning, the Monday following to start week by calendar, pick a day?

For Aromasin, it looks like I will only need about 6 tabs to cover all split tab doses for the 4 weeks. The box on anabolic store comes with 30 tabs for $72...seems like I'm going to be wasting about 24 pills and $58. Is there something comparable that won't waste all that money? Or can I just not take Aromasin?

Just keep clomid at 25 mg. I personally dont recommend it at 12.5 anyway...

Hcg is ran the last four weeks of your cycle right up until pct

There are plenty of other places to get aromasin if u simply go to the source section
 
I'm a bit confused here, but there is no science behind the perfect pct proposed by this thread! A PCT is necessary after a SARM cycle, and Ostarine is suppressive at a dose of 25 mg, how on earth can you expect your natural test levels to be back to normal when the "perfect" pct suggests to suppress even more testosterone production by using Ostarine on a PCT, when Ostarine needs a PCT!!! So basically a PCT for a PCT is needed !
 
is it suggested that all of those items need to be ran regardless of the cycle you run? Like if I run EQ and Tren Enan, do I have to buy and take all those in the PCT? As Tren had no estro effects or water retention. I understand that I might need AI for EQ and maybe N2Gen beginning the last 4 weeks to boost natty test...but do I need everything else?

- - - Updated - - -

And some cabaser for tren during cycle
 
Question about Sarms

I have a question I’m gonna start my first Sarm Mk2866 Or OS but im only running it for 8 weeks. Would I need a PCT and if I do which is best to use?
 
I have a question I’m gonna start my first Sarm Mk2866 Or OS but im only running it for 8 weeks. Would I need a PCT and if I do which is best to use?
you should be running the stack 12 weeks... it doesnt even peak until week 8..

if you get everything at esarms.com, your pct will just be the banned nutrition supplements... it would look like this..


1-12 mk2866 25 mg per day, dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 M1 MK by Banned Nutrition

Mini Pct 13-16

M! MK by Banned Nutrition
Cardazol by Banned Nutrition
GW-501516 20 mg day
 
is it suggested that all of those items need to be ran regardless of the cycle you run? Like if I run EQ and Tren Enan, do I have to buy and take all those in the PCT? As Tren had no estro effects or water retention. I understand that I might need AI for EQ and maybe N2Gen beginning the last 4 weeks to boost natty test...but do I need everything else?
And I've read I need some cabaser for tren during cycle...

Can I get some help with this?
 
is it suggested that all of those items need to be ran regardless of the cycle you run? Like if I run EQ and Tren Enan, do I have to buy and take all those in the PCT? As Tren had no estro effects or water retention. I understand that I might need AI for EQ and maybe N2Gen beginning the last 4 weeks to boost natty test...but do I need everything else?
And I've read I need some cabaser for tren during cycle...

Can I get some help with this?
I advise you to check on this site,they've been of great help to me and reliable
 
There are a lot of guys who are confused about Post Cycle Therapy (PCT) and they are confused for the right reason. If you don't do your PCT right, you'll NEVER recover your natural testosterone levels and you'll be disabled for life. That's right, test levels don't just magically start back up. In fact, I've had numerous clients who had to run a 6 months PCT because they messed up their original post cycle. PCT is VERY serious and, if done wrong, you can literally hurt yourself; imagine, hormonal imbalances, high estrogen levels and low-testosterone. It's a recipe for disaster.

You're here on evo, so you want help right? You should start by reading and following the Perfect PCT, it's the sure way 200% to recover from any cycle.

Read the Perfect PCT article here: http://www.evolutionary.org/the-perfect-post-cycle-therapy-pct/

This is golden right here
 
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