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G’Day!

Jumping on to do my intro post and to help keep me accountable for this next phase of my transformation. New to Evo but been around on BS and ASF boards for a while.

Bit of background to begin with,

Notoriously low TRT levels naturally. Talking total T levels of 5 🤪
Took years and way too long to figure out what was going on but better late then ever. Been on TRT now for around 12 months and it’s really turned my life around! During this 12 months I’ve lost a massive 30kg and can hands down say this is the healthiest and strongest I have ever been in my life at 30 years old.

Maxed out at 123kg and for the last 2 weeks have been hovering between 89.5 and 90.5kg so think I’ve found my maintenance calories. Plan now is to really try and bulk back up to somewhere around 95kg & put on some size/recomposition.

Still carrying the tiniest amount of lower body fat that seems to be the most stubborn thing in the world to lose , but hoping it will continue to improve as we go.
Pumped to announce @DofRandD has agreed to sponsor me with everything I need as I run my first proper cycle & log after my weight loss journey!

Protocol is going to be the below (open to feedback/suggestions)
400mg Test E
250mg Primo E
Originally was going to do 500 Test / 300 Primo but it meant my 3x pins a week MWF would be over a ml and wouldn’t fit into my insulin syringes. Do we think I should revert back to the higher dose and get bigger syringes / tough it out and just double pin?

Start with 40mg Var daily (split into 2 doses)

Also received some Adex to keep on hand incase of any sides sneaking in.

First half of the goodies arrived in 2 days after shipping! @DofRandD has been an absolute pleasure to communicate and deal with, very helpful with questions I’ve had and great to have a general chat with.

Training wise I’m probably a bit of an anomaly here compared to most of the guys, I do CrossFit 4-5 times per week as an average and try to squeeze in 1-2 5km runs a week to help with cardio. Planning on posting in the log 2-3 times a week with a breakdown of the workouts I’ve completed along with any extras I’ve done before/after class, and will also post up PBs / 1RM max’s as I hit them!

@Pigsy @StevenDarwinMD are you able to help with getting my status / log updated to approved logger ?
 

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And just for a laugh, this is 12 months of facial hair change since starting TRT
 

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Rogue888 said:
G’Day!

Jumping on to do my intro post and to help keep me accountable for this next phase of my transformation. New to Evo but been around on BS and ASF boards for a while.

Bit of background to begin with,

Notoriously low TRT levels naturally. Talking total T levels of 5 🤪
Took years and way too long to figure out what was going on but better late then ever. Been on TRT now for around 12 months and it’s really turned my life around! During this 12 months I’ve lost a massive 30kg and can hands down say this is the healthiest and strongest I have ever been in my life at 30 years old.

Maxed out at 123kg and for the last 2 weeks have been hovering between 89.5 and 90.5kg so think I’ve found my maintenance calories. Plan now is to really try and bulk back up to somewhere around 95kg & put on some size/recomposition.

Still carrying the tiniest amount of lower body fat that seems to be the most stubborn thing in the world to lose , but hoping it will continue to improve as we go.
Pumped to announce @DofRandD has agreed to sponsor me with everything I need as I run my first proper cycle & log after my weight loss journey!

Protocol is going to be the below (open to feedback/suggestions)
400mg Test E
250mg Primo E
Originally was going to do 500 Test / 300 Primo but it meant my 3x pins a week MWF would be over a ml and wouldn’t fit into my insulin syringes. Do we think I should revert back to the higher dose and get bigger syringes / tough it out and just double pin?

Start with 40mg Var daily (split into 2 doses)

Also received some Adex to keep on hand incase of any sides sneaking in.

First half of the goodies arrived in 2 days after shipping! @DofRandD has been an absolute pleasure to communicate and deal with, very helpful with questions I’ve had and great to have a general chat with.

Training wise I’m probably a bit of an anomaly here compared to most of the guys, I do CrossFit 4-5 times per week as an average and try to squeeze in 1-2 5km runs a week to help with cardio. Planning on posting in the log 2-3 times a week with a breakdown of the workouts I’ve completed along with any extras I’ve done before/after class, and will also post up PBs / 1RM max’s as I hit them!

@Pigsy @StevenDarwinMD are you able to help with getting my status / log updated to approved logger ?
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Rogue888 said:
And just for a laugh, this is 12 months of facial hair change since starting TRT
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@Rogue888 welcome to the EVO family :D amazing start to the log.
You look great, good build, strong base you can grow on and get amazing results.

Please share more day to day information with us.

Diet, Training, Cardio
Diet, please share foods and meals and when you eat them, macros would be good
Training, please share actual exercises reps sets and weights, as you go especially get stronger
cardio how much do you do? when etc
If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.

supplements
what supps you use?
digestive enzymes?
multis?
probiotics?
psyllium husk?

pictures
please share pictures of you face blurred, update every few weeks as you go
pics of your meals as you go
pics of your training as you go
pics of your supps
pics of your gear

eBooks
download our eBooks and learn more about cycling:
https://irongorillas.com

Podcast
are you listening to our podcast? if not, you should:
https://www.evolutionary.org/podcasts/

thank you and share more :)
 
nice to hear you could get your life back on track that's what trt is all about
too many hop-on trt when they don't really need it but in your case you definitely needed it
 
Rogue888 said:
G’Day!

Jumping on to do my intro post and to help keep me accountable for this next phase of my transformation. New to Evo but been around on BS and ASF boards for a while.

Bit of background to begin with,

Notoriously low TRT levels naturally. Talking total T levels of 5 🤪
Took years and way too long to figure out what was going on but better late then ever. Been on TRT now for around 12 months and it’s really turned my life around! During this 12 months I’ve lost a massive 30kg and can hands down say this is the healthiest and strongest I have ever been in my life at 30 years old.

Maxed out at 123kg and for the last 2 weeks have been hovering between 89.5 and 90.5kg so think I’ve found my maintenance calories. Plan now is to really try and bulk back up to somewhere around 95kg & put on some size/recomposition.

Still carrying the tiniest amount of lower body fat that seems to be the most stubborn thing in the world to lose , but hoping it will continue to improve as we go.
Pumped to announce @DofRandD has agreed to sponsor me with everything I need as I run my first proper cycle & log after my weight loss journey!

Protocol is going to be the below (open to feedback/suggestions)
400mg Test E
250mg Primo E
Originally was going to do 500 Test / 300 Primo but it meant my 3x pins a week MWF would be over a ml and wouldn’t fit into my insulin syringes. Do we think I should revert back to the higher dose and get bigger syringes / tough it out and just double pin?

Start with 40mg Var daily (split into 2 doses)

Also received some Adex to keep on hand incase of any sides sneaking in.

First half of the goodies arrived in 2 days after shipping! @DofRandD has been an absolute pleasure to communicate and deal with, very helpful with questions I’ve had and great to have a general chat with.

Training wise I’m probably a bit of an anomaly here compared to most of the guys, I do CrossFit 4-5 times per week as an average and try to squeeze in 1-2 5km runs a week to help with cardio. Planning on posting in the log 2-3 times a week with a breakdown of the workouts I’ve completed along with any extras I’ve done before/after class, and will also post up PBs / 1RM max’s as I hit them!

@Pigsy @StevenDarwinMD are you able to help with getting my status / log updated to approved logger ?
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Hey bro welcome to Evo,

I’m going to pick apart your protocol and help you make an informed choice on what to do.

400mg test e
250mg primo e
280mg anavar (40mg a day)
Arimidex in case of E2 sides

Going from 125mg true TRT to 400mg will be a big jump. I would at 200mg test which will definitely jump test levels up to a point where you will feel a substantial difference. As you progress through the cycle every 2 weeks, add 50-100mg until you reach your desired dose.

Precautions for test
E2 may or may not present itself as issue for you, as I dont know your blood work or body, however I would recommend blood work to dictate the use of a AI. Especially if you will be running primo.
I would recommend shooting ED.. the serum concentration is more stable, where as Bi Weekly injections will cause peaks and trophs. With these peaks and trophs comes E2 peaks and trophs. Spike up test in bolus amounts, the body will create an equal reaction to spike up E2. This obviously depends on your aromatase enzyme activity. Hence why blood work is important. I would recommende start @200mg broken into 7 shots per week, if you are unable to do 7 shots, break down into 4 or EOD. I will guarantee you will reduce E2 spikes. The body likes homeostasis. Big amounts twice per week will create an unwanted reaction.

Primo - fantastic compound. Slow gainer, clean tissue gains and very anabolic in high doses. 250mg of primo anecdotally you wont see a huge change as it shines on the higher end of dosing. However primo is metabolised and creates AI like metabolites, which inhibits e2 conversion at the ER which prevents gyno, and will will inhibit the conversion of E2 from test. Allowing more free test activity. In saying this it may crush your E2 depending on your reaction. Blood work again is key, but primo at that dose will not create aesthetic look but rather act close to a AI. You may get SOME tissue gain, but will minimal. Liver enzymes may elevate but I wouldn’t be too concerned at that dose.

Anavar is fantastic as well, however I would start at 20mg a day. Pre workout or split morning and pre workout. It’s DHT so it won’t convert to e2, it will help covert t4 into t3 to drive fat loss, glucocorticoid inhibiting so you get less mineral retention and thinner skin, and will drive up sympathetic drive during workouts. Watch liver enzymes however anecdotally it has shown to have minimal effect if your diet and supplementation is on point to allow your body to function optimally.

I would recommend starting at 200mg test and 20mg anavar for now, slowly ramping up test to your tolerance without the use of a AI as they do have health implications. We need e2 for many benefits for males. I won’t get into it other wise this post will be too long. But that will be my recommendation for now
 
AE1079 said:
Hey bro welcome to Evo,

I’m going to pick apart your protocol and help you make an informed choice on what to do.

400mg test e
250mg primo e
280mg anavar (40mg a day)
Arimidex in case of E2 sides

Going from 125mg true TRT to 400mg will be a big jump. I would at 200mg test which will definitely jump test levels up to a point where you will feel a substantial difference. As you progress through the cycle every 2 weeks, add 50-100mg until you reach your desired dose.

Precautions for test
E2 may or may not present itself as issue for you, as I dont know your blood work or body, however I would recommend blood work to dictate the use of a AI. Especially if you will be running primo.
I would recommend shooting ED.. the serum concentration is more stable, where as Bi Weekly injections will cause peaks and trophs. With these peaks and trophs comes E2 peaks and trophs. Spike up test in bolus amounts, the body will create an equal reaction to spike up E2. This obviously depends on your aromatase enzyme activity. Hence why blood work is important. I would recommende start @200mg broken into 7 shots per week, if you are unable to do 7 shots, break down into 4 or EOD. I will guarantee you will reduce E2 spikes. The body likes homeostasis. Big amounts twice per week will create an unwanted reaction.

Primo - fantastic compound. Slow gainer, clean tissue gains and very anabolic in high doses. 250mg of primo anecdotally you wont see a huge change as it shines on the higher end of dosing. However primo is metabolised and creates AI like metabolites, which inhibits e2 conversion at the ER which prevents gyno, and will will inhibit the conversion of E2 from test. Allowing more free test activity. In saying this it may crush your E2 depending on your reaction. Blood work again is key, but primo at that dose will not create aesthetic look but rather act close to a AI. You may get SOME tissue gain, but will minimal. Liver enzymes may elevate but I wouldn’t be too concerned at that dose.

Anavar is fantastic as well, however I would start at 20mg a day. Pre workout or split morning and pre workout. It’s DHT so it won’t convert to e2, it will help covert t4 into t3 to drive fat loss, glucocorticoid inhibiting so you get less mineral retention and thinner skin, and will drive up sympathetic drive during workouts. Watch liver enzymes however anecdotally it has shown to have minimal effect if your diet and supplementation is on point to allow your body to function optimally.

I would recommend starting at 200mg test and 20mg anavar for now, slowly ramping up test to your tolerance without the use of a AI as they do have health implications. We need e2 for many benefits for males. I won’t get into it other wise this post will be too long. But that will be my recommendation for now
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Hey Bro
Thanks for the detailed info!
If it’s not too much hassle could you pick apart the protocol again and provide your suggestions , I should have mentioned (my bad) I did start on 125mg week when I was doing proper TRT, the last 3-4 months I’ve been running @ 250-300mg week with no side effects and blood markers all looking healthy.

So with that in mind, I’m keen to go “all in” without going too crazy and don’t mind jumping my T dose up to the next level you think I would benefit from? And also happy to increase Primo dose to wherever it needs to be.
Is there a certain 1:1, 2:1 ratio etc of Test to Primo we should be basing it on?

Thanks again legend
 
I'm glad you got on trt and feel better
you've got a great base to work with let's make sure we get you the best results possible
 
post up your training from your CrossFit
I know it's a lot of different things that you guys do
 
we want to know more about your diet and nutrition as well
make sure you're posting that
 
we love to see new loggers!
you sound like an awesome dude I'm really looking forward to this
at the end of the day if you want to cycle learn to use 25G needles. insulin pins just won't work long term anyway
 
Rogue888 said:
G’Day!

Jumping on to do my intro post and to help keep me accountable for this next phase of my transformation. New to Evo but been around on BS and ASF boards for a while.

Bit of background to begin with,

Notoriously low TRT levels naturally. Talking total T levels of 5 🤪
Took years and way too long to figure out what was going on but better late then ever. Been on TRT now for around 12 months and it’s really turned my life around! During this 12 months I’ve lost a massive 30kg and can hands down say this is the healthiest and strongest I have ever been in my life at 30 years old.

Maxed out at 123kg and for the last 2 weeks have been hovering between 89.5 and 90.5kg so think I’ve found my maintenance calories. Plan now is to really try and bulk back up to somewhere around 95kg & put on some size/recomposition.

Still carrying the tiniest amount of lower body fat that seems to be the most stubborn thing in the world to lose , but hoping it will continue to improve as we go.
Pumped to announce @DofRandD has agreed to sponsor me with everything I need as I run my first proper cycle & log after my weight loss journey!

Protocol is going to be the below (open to feedback/suggestions)
400mg Test E
250mg Primo E
Originally was going to do 500 Test / 300 Primo but it meant my 3x pins a week MWF would be over a ml and wouldn’t fit into my insulin syringes. Do we think I should revert back to the higher dose and get bigger syringes / tough it out and just double pin?

Start with 40mg Var daily (split into 2 doses)

Also received some Adex to keep on hand incase of any sides sneaking in.

First half of the goodies arrived in 2 days after shipping! @DofRandD has been an absolute pleasure to communicate and deal with, very helpful with questions I’ve had and great to have a general chat with.

Training wise I’m probably a bit of an anomaly here compared to most of the guys, I do CrossFit 4-5 times per week as an average and try to squeeze in 1-2 5km runs a week to help with cardio. Planning on posting in the log 2-3 times a week with a breakdown of the workouts I’ve completed along with any extras I’ve done before/after class, and will also post up PBs / 1RM max’s as I hit them!

@Pigsy @StevenDarwinMD are you able to help with getting my status / log updated to approved logger ?
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@Rogue888 looking forward to following this log!
 
Rogue888 said:
G’Day!

Jumping on to do my intro post and to help keep me accountable for this next phase of my transformation. New to Evo but been around on BS and ASF boards for a while.

Bit of background to begin with,

Notoriously low TRT levels naturally. Talking total T levels of 5 🤪
Took years and way too long to figure out what was going on but better late then ever. Been on TRT now for around 12 months and it’s really turned my life around! During this 12 months I’ve lost a massive 30kg and can hands down say this is the healthiest and strongest I have ever been in my life at 30 years old.

Maxed out at 123kg and for the last 2 weeks have been hovering between 89.5 and 90.5kg so think I’ve found my maintenance calories. Plan now is to really try and bulk back up to somewhere around 95kg & put on some size/recomposition.

Still carrying the tiniest amount of lower body fat that seems to be the most stubborn thing in the world to lose , but hoping it will continue to improve as we go.
Pumped to announce @DofRandD has agreed to sponsor me with everything I need as I run my first proper cycle & log after my weight loss journey!

Protocol is going to be the below (open to feedback/suggestions)
400mg Test E
250mg Primo E
Originally was going to do 500 Test / 300 Primo but it meant my 3x pins a week MWF would be over a ml and wouldn’t fit into my insulin syringes. Do we think I should revert back to the higher dose and get bigger syringes / tough it out and just double pin?

Start with 40mg Var daily (split into 2 doses)

Also received some Adex to keep on hand incase of any sides sneaking in.

First half of the goodies arrived in 2 days after shipping! @DofRandD has been an absolute pleasure to communicate and deal with, very helpful with questions I’ve had and great to have a general chat with.

Training wise I’m probably a bit of an anomaly here compared to most of the guys, I do CrossFit 4-5 times per week as an average and try to squeeze in 1-2 5km runs a week to help with cardio. Planning on posting in the log 2-3 times a week with a breakdown of the workouts I’ve completed along with any extras I’ve done before/after class, and will also post up PBs / 1RM max’s as I hit them!

@Pigsy @StevenDarwinMD are you able to help with getting my status / log updated to approved logger ?
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@Rogue888 Good start man....looking forward to an awesome log..........
 
Primo is by far one of my favorite compounds i love it's benefits as AE mentioned and what it can do for you, just got to be patient with it and let it shine over time.
 
Hey boys
Thanks for all the warm love!

Here’s this weeks update.

Still trying to finalise Test/Primo dose to run for the cycle. Have boxes of insulin pins so want to use those up. Thinking of changing from 3x weekly to EOD injections so the maths works in my favour and I can do 1x injection EOD mixed with Test & Primo.

Thinking 0.5 Test E and 0.4 Primo E, EOD
Roughly 430test weekly and 280-300primo. Let me know your thoughts!

Good week of training this week, highlight was had the opportunity to retest 1RM deadlift. Had been a while since last test, Managed to jump up a massive 20kg and hit 150kg. Also appreciate any cues you boys have to held stop the back rounding when going heavy ? Hasn’t given me any grief yet but obviously the rounding isn’t ideal.

Nutrition this week has been pretty good, didn’t get a chance to run daily logs but to give you an idea of intake,

Breakfast
- mango smoothie with 2x scoops protein to bulk up protein intake (60g)
- 2x slices raisin toast
- most important , coffee

Smoko
- assorted protein bars
- double scoop protein shake at sork
- 2x bananas

Lunch
- Cajun mince meal prep meal (lean mince, veggies, rice)
- chobani yoghurts x2

Dinner
- always keep dinner flexible and have it with the family, always some kind of meat and veg etc. have steak twice a week cooked on the pellet smoker
Treated ourselves to some take away pizza Friday night

In some ways I feel like I’m eating a lot more now I’ve transitioned out of the cut but also feel like I need to get some more in, so any recommendations or pointers would be fantastic!

Now onto @DofRandD - first week injecting his test and primo, everything seems to be going great! Test pins smoothly , some slight PIP from the primo which isn’t uncommon regardless of lab and also my first time pinning it so not too stressed. Have noticed the PIP has been less and less after each injection, first pin was definitely the worst. Rotating between delts and ventro glute at this stage. Have pinned quads a few times and may reintroduce it if required.

Cheers fellas hope everyone has had a great weekend!
 
Rogue888 said:
Hey boys
Thanks for all the warm love!

Here’s this weeks update.

Still trying to finalise Test/Primo dose to run for the cycle. Have boxes of insulin pins so want to use those up. Thinking of changing from 3x weekly to EOD injections so the maths works in my favour and I can do 1x injection EOD mixed with Test & Primo.

Thinking 0.5 Test E and 0.4 Primo E, EOD
Roughly 430test weekly and 280-300primo. Let me know your thoughts!

Good week of training this week, highlight was had the opportunity to retest 1RM deadlift. Had been a while since last test, Managed to jump up a massive 20kg and hit 150kg. Also appreciate any cues you boys have to held stop the back rounding when going heavy ? Hasn’t given me any grief yet but obviously the rounding isn’t ideal.

Nutrition this week has been pretty good, didn’t get a chance to run daily logs but to give you an idea of intake,

Breakfast
- mango smoothie with 2x scoops protein to bulk up protein intake (60g)
- 2x slices raisin toast
- most important , coffee

Smoko
- assorted protein bars
- double scoop protein shake at sork
- 2x bananas

Lunch
- Cajun mince meal prep meal (lean mince, veggies, rice)
- chobani yoghurts x2

Dinner
- always keep dinner flexible and have it with the family, always some kind of meat and veg etc. have steak twice a week cooked on the pellet smoker
Treated ourselves to some take away pizza Friday night

In some ways I feel like I’m eating a lot more now I’ve transitioned out of the cut but also feel like I need to get some more in, so any recommendations or pointers would be fantastic!

Now onto @DofRandD - first week injecting his test and primo, everything seems to be going great! Test pins smoothly , some slight PIP from the primo which isn’t uncommon regardless of lab and also my first time pinning it so not too stressed. Have noticed the PIP has been less and less after each injection, first pin was definitely the worst. Rotating between delts and ventro glute at this stage. Have pinned quads a few times and may reintroduce it if required.

Cheers fellas hope everyone has had a great weekend!
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very in depth and detailed updates brother if yhe pip from the primo gets a bit to much ive had some lads lower the dose and increase the frequency and they have managed to mitigate all pip from the primo
 
DofRandD said:
very in depth and detailed updates brother if yhe pip from the primo gets a bit to much ive had some lads lower the dose and increase the frequency and they have managed to mitigate all pip from the primo
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Thanks bro that’s why I thought about doing EOD doing as well to help with that! Loving the gear so far legend
 
This weeks training recap,

MONDAY
Every 1:30 x 6 Sets
2 Hang Power Cleans
Set 1: 75% 60kg
Set 2: 75% 60kg
Set 3: 80% 65kg
Set 4: 80% 65kg
Set 5: 85% 70kg
Set 6: 85% 70kg
% is Based on 1RM Power Clean

Workout:
Complete as many rounds as possible in 14 mins of:
10 Power Cleans, 70kg
15 Toes-to-bars
50 Double Unders
Completed 4 rounds

TUESDAY
Every 2:00 x 5 Sets
7 Push Press, 70% 1RM
50kg/50kg/55kg/55kg/60kg

Workout:
3 rounds for time (10min cap) of:
30 Push-ups
25 Kettlebell Swings, 24kg
Very deceiving workout, simple but taxing and humbling 😆 completed in 9:45

WEDNESDAY
No gym due to work commitments, 5km run in the afternoon. 27:30 time.

THURSDAY
Rest day

FRIDAY
Every 2:30 x 4 Sets
3 Segmented Deadlifts
3 Seated Vertical Jumps
Segmented Deadlift- @ 70%+ % of 1RM Deadlift
The segment deadlift will be a 1 second pause at the knee, and a 1 second pause on the floor between reps
For the seated vertical jumps, set yourself up at parallel and perform each rep max effort.
Deadlifts completed at 100kg / 105kg / 110kg

Workout
For time:
35 Pull-ups (kipping)
30 Deadlifts, 102.5kg
25 Box Jumps, 24in
30 Pull-ups (kipping)
25 Deadlifts, 102.5kg
20 Box Jumps, 24in
Every 1:30 (inc 0:00), complete 5 Lateral Barbell Burpees
Time cap: 17 mins
Time capped on this one - had 14 box jumps left, burpees gassed us on this one

SATURDAY
Nil training

SUNDAY
1RM Deadlift testing (150kg) and technique work on other movements plus recovery session afterwards
 
Rogue888 said:
Hey boys
Thanks for all the warm love!

Here’s this weeks update.

Still trying to finalise Test/Primo dose to run for the cycle. Have boxes of insulin pins so want to use those up. Thinking of changing from 3x weekly to EOD injections so the maths works in my favour and I can do 1x injection EOD mixed with Test & Primo.

Thinking 0.5 Test E and 0.4 Primo E, EOD
Roughly 430test weekly and 280-300primo. Let me know your thoughts!

Good week of training this week, highlight was had the opportunity to retest 1RM deadlift. Had been a while since last test, Managed to jump up a massive 20kg and hit 150kg. Also appreciate any cues you boys have to held stop the back rounding when going heavy ? Hasn’t given me any grief yet but obviously the rounding isn’t ideal.

Nutrition this week has been pretty good, didn’t get a chance to run daily logs but to give you an idea of intake,

Breakfast
- mango smoothie with 2x scoops protein to bulk up protein intake (60g)
- 2x slices raisin toast
- most important , coffee

Smoko
- assorted protein bars
- double scoop protein shake at sork
- 2x bananas

Lunch
- Cajun mince meal prep meal (lean mince, veggies, rice)
- chobani yoghurts x2

Dinner
- always keep dinner flexible and have it with the family, always some kind of meat and veg etc. have steak twice a week cooked on the pellet smoker
Treated ourselves to some take away pizza Friday night

In some ways I feel like I’m eating a lot more now I’ve transitioned out of the cut but also feel like I need to get some more in, so any recommendations or pointers would be fantastic!

Now onto @DofRandD - first week injecting his test and primo, everything seems to be going great! Test pins smoothly , some slight PIP from the primo which isn’t uncommon regardless of lab and also my first time pinning it so not too stressed. Have noticed the PIP has been less and less after each injection, first pin was definitely the worst. Rotating between delts and ventro glute at this stage. Have pinned quads a few times and may reintroduce it if required.

Cheers fellas hope everyone has had a great weekend!
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Rogue888 said:
This weeks training recap,

MONDAY
Every 1:30 x 6 Sets
2 Hang Power Cleans
Set 1: 75% 60kg
Set 2: 75% 60kg
Set 3: 80% 65kg
Set 4: 80% 65kg
Set 5: 85% 70kg
Set 6: 85% 70kg
% is Based on 1RM Power Clean

Workout:
Complete as many rounds as possible in 14 mins of:
10 Power Cleans, 70kg
15 Toes-to-bars
50 Double Unders
Completed 4 rounds

TUESDAY
Every 2:00 x 5 Sets
7 Push Press, 70% 1RM
50kg/50kg/55kg/55kg/60kg

Workout:
3 rounds for time (10min cap) of:
30 Push-ups
25 Kettlebell Swings, 24kg
Very deceiving workout, simple but taxing and humbling 😆 completed in 9:45

WEDNESDAY
No gym due to work commitments, 5km run in the afternoon. 27:30 time.

THURSDAY
Rest day

FRIDAY
Every 2:30 x 4 Sets
3 Segmented Deadlifts
3 Seated Vertical Jumps
Segmented Deadlift- @ 70%+ % of 1RM Deadlift
The segment deadlift will be a 1 second pause at the knee, and a 1 second pause on the floor between reps
For the seated vertical jumps, set yourself up at parallel and perform each rep max effort.
Deadlifts completed at 100kg / 105kg / 110kg

Workout
For time:
35 Pull-ups (kipping)
30 Deadlifts, 102.5kg
25 Box Jumps, 24in
30 Pull-ups (kipping)
25 Deadlifts, 102.5kg
20 Box Jumps, 24in
Every 1:30 (inc 0:00), complete 5 Lateral Barbell Burpees
Time cap: 17 mins
Time capped on this one - had 14 box jumps left, burpees gassed us on this one

SATURDAY
Nil training

SUNDAY
1RM Deadlift testing (150kg) and technique work on other movements plus recovery session afterwards
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@Rogue888 workout went well :D i see lots of volume on friday
but try to update as you go not 1 time per week, hard to see whats happening
 
cheers - yeah I’ll try post 2-3 a week to keep them shorter and more frequent so easier to track etc. just juggling time etc atm between work and the family at home!
 
Rogue888 said:
cheers - yeah I’ll try post 2-3 a week to keep them shorter and more frequent so easier to track etc. just juggling time etc atm between work and the family at home!
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please do thank you :D @Rogue888
 
MONDAY
Workout
Every 1 min for 19 mins, alternating between:
10-8-6-4-2 Bench Press, 65-70-75-80-85+% 1RM (65kg/70kg/75kg/80kg/85kg)
20 Toes-to-bar
Farmer Carry, 32kg, 30m
Rest 1 min

Ice Bath recovery session after workout
 
TUESDAY
Strength
Every 3:00 x 4 Sets
3 Back Squats @80% (105kg)
3 Seated Box Jumps, pick height (30inch)
Rest 15-20 secs between movements.

Workout
4 rounds for time of:
12 Wall Balls, 20/lbs
15 Burpee Box Jump Overs, 24th h
12 Wall Balls, 20/lbs
60 Double Unders
Time: 13:55
 
WEDNESDAY
Warm Up
2 Sets, For Quality
200m Run
20 Bear Plank Shoulder Taps
6/6 Kettlebell Windmill
2 Wall Walks
8 Bar Kip Swings
6/6 Single Arm Ring Rows
Into 8 minutes:
Handstand Walk Skill Progression

Workout
Every 5:00 x 4 rounds, each round for time, of:
Run, 400 m
21 Pull-ups (Kipping)
12 Handstand Push-ups
Goal Time Domain: Sub 4:00 / set
 
150kg Deadlift hit last week
IMG_0016.webp
 
Rogue888 said:
MONDAY
Workout
Every 1 min for 19 mins, alternating between:
10-8-6-4-2 Bench Press, 65-70-75-80-85+% 1RM (65kg/70kg/75kg/80kg/85kg)
20 Toes-to-bar
Farmer Carry, 32kg, 30m
Rest 1 min

Ice Bath recovery session after workout
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Rogue888 said:
TUESDAY
Strength
Every 3:00 x 4 Sets
3 Back Squats @80% (105kg)
3 Seated Box Jumps, pick height (30inch)
Rest 15-20 secs between movements.

Workout
4 rounds for time of:
12 Wall Balls, 20/lbs
15 Burpee Box Jump Overs, 24th h
12 Wall Balls, 20/lbs
60 Double Unders
Time: 13:55
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Rogue888 said:
WEDNESDAY
Warm Up
2 Sets, For Quality
200m Run
20 Bear Plank Shoulder Taps
6/6 Kettlebell Windmill
2 Wall Walks
8 Bar Kip Swings
6/6 Single Arm Ring Rows
Into 8 minutes:
Handstand Walk Skill Progression

Workout
Every 5:00 x 4 rounds, each round for time, of:
Run, 400 m
21 Pull-ups (Kipping)
12 Handstand Push-ups
Goal Time Domain: Sub 4:00 / set
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Rogue888 said:
150kg Deadlift hit last week
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@Rogue888 strong training and deadlift you killed it :D i see the tight legs there NICE
 
Cheers boys
 
nice volume on that training
you're building some good muscle conditioning
 
very impressive work
you keep this up you'll be a beast before you know it
 
keep up the good work with the supplementation
make sure you're taking those digestive enzymes
 
how are your bowel movements
it's a weird question but I hope you're staying normal on that
 
If you want to bulk I'm guessing you mean build muscle because you just did all that work to lose the fat yeah?

Fuck Crossfit and get onto a proper training split.

1RMs are absolutely useless you wanna be a strongman. In which case you didn't need to lose the fat.

Dose according to need and response.
Not because you have some idea in your head of how you should be pinning.
If you need to get 3mL barrels, get 3mL barrels.
If you need to pin ED or EOD, do that too.

But for a first cycle I wouldn't be jumping straight in at 500 anyway.
Or running primo straight off the bat.

You said you've been on TRT dosage, I'd titrate up from there, get some bloods to see how you respond, introduce primo from there.

If you get your primo right you shouldn't be needing an AI. Don't use it indiscriminately. Tanked oestradiol is as unfriendly as high oestradiol.
 
very strong lifting
you are showing how it's done
 
nice work on this
you keep this up you will be a beast
 
Thanks for the feedback and suggestions

Ended up getting 3ml barrels and everything is going well, easy to use

Both the Test E and Primo from @DofRandD is pinning smoothly! Some very very minor pip from the primo but seems to be getting better every pin I do so body has adjusted
 
abz.dwbro said:
If you want to bulk I'm guessing you mean build muscle because you just did all that work to lose the fat yeah?

Fuck Crossfit and get onto a proper training split.

1RMs are absolutely useless you wanna be a strongman. In which case you didn't need to lose the fat.

Dose according to need and response.
Not because you have some idea in your head of how you should be pinning.
If you need to get 3mL barrels, get 3mL barrels.
If you need to pin ED or EOD, do that too.

But for a first cycle I wouldn't be jumping straight in at 500 anyway.
Or running primo straight off the bat.

You said you've been on TRT dosage, I'd titrate up from there, get some bloods to see how you respond, introduce primo from there.

If you get your primo right you shouldn't be needing an AI. Don't use it indiscriminately. Tanked oestradiol is as unfriendly as high oestradiol.
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Thanks for the thoughts legend
Will give it a couple weeks now that I’m all sorted and get some bloods to see how things are looking
 
Weigh in this morning, 90.3kg
Last week has fluctuated from 90.1-91.8kg , fairly happy with that as I’ve started introducing more calories to transition out of the cut.
Definitely noticed appetite starting to come back this week which is helpful with actually trying to get the food in
Noticed I’m filling the sleeves out in shirts more noticeable now as well

IMG_4573.webp


THURSDAY
Rest Day

FRIDAY
Completed below workouts, went easy today as have a 2 day comp this weekend
Weightlifting piece completed at 50kg

IMG_0018.webp


Workout, completed at 60kg and hit 6 rounds
IMG_0019.webp



 
If anyone has any suggestions on brands / websites to order TUDCA from (Aussie) please let me know!
 
Rogue888 said:
Weigh in this morning, 90.3kg
Last week has fluctuated from 90.1-91.8kg , fairly happy with that as I’ve started introducing more calories to transition out of the cut.
Definitely noticed appetite starting to come back this week which is helpful with actually trying to get the food in
Noticed I’m filling the sleeves out in shirts more noticeable now as well

View attachment 59800

THURSDAY
Rest Day

FRIDAY
Completed below workouts, went easy today as have a 2 day comp this weekend
Weightlifting piece completed at 50kg

View attachment 59798

Workout, completed at 60kg and hit 6 rounds
View attachment 59799
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@Rogue888 you're looking big man :) thick

on the training is that text? can you copy paste that here please
 
Eddie Haskell said:
@Rogue888 you're looking big man :) thick

on the training is that text? can you copy paste that here please
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yeah it let my copy and paste last week but now the training app won’t let me copy and paste, weird but I’ll try again next time. Looks better as text I agree
 
Rogue888 said:
Weigh in this morning, 90.3kg
Last week has fluctuated from 90.1-91.8kg , fairly happy with that as I’ve started introducing more calories to transition out of the cut.
Definitely noticed appetite starting to come back this week which is helpful with actually trying to get the food in
Noticed I’m filling the sleeves out in shirts more noticeable now as well

View attachment 59800

THURSDAY
Rest Day

FRIDAY
Completed below workouts, went easy today as have a 2 day comp this weekend
Weightlifting piece completed at 50kg

View attachment 59798

Workout, completed at 60kg and hit 6 rounds
View attachment 59799
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@Rogue888 Looking incredible.....legit updates..........
 
Hey Fellas

Back from the 2 day comp this weekend, finished up 8th place. Of mention, ended up hitting 150kg deadlift for 3 rep. Was my 1RM a week prior so clearly had some more in the tank + competition adrenaline was pumping.

Currently sitting around 92kg
Still eating well, mostly high protein
A few lollies and simple carbs over the weekend for some boosts of energy over the weekend
Back to the grind now

Training this week;

MONDAY
Strength
For Load
Every 1:30 x 6 Sets
2 Back Squats @75% 1RM
Completed at 110kg

Workout
For time:
Every 1 min, alternating between:
16/13 Row Calories OR 13/10 Bike Calories
8 Burpee Pull-ups
max reps Thrusters, 42.5/30kg
Rest 1 min
Time 15:35 (4 rounds)

TUESDAY
Workout
4 Rounds For Time:
15 Alternating Dumbbell Snatches,22.5kg
3 Wall Walks
15 Alternating Dumbbell Snatches,22.5kg
8 Strict Handstand Push-ups
Into, 1200m Run
Time Cap: 22 Minutes
Primary Objective: Shoulder Fatigue Management
Secondary Objective: Run @ 5k Pace
Completed in 22:30 (run at the end cooked me)

WEDNESDAY IS
Strength
Every 2:00 x 5 Sets
Set 1: 4 Deadlifts at 65% 1RM
Set 2: 3 Deadlifts at 70% 1RM
Set 3: 2 Deadlifts at 75% 1RM
Set 4: 2 Deadlifts at 80% 1RM
Set 5: 2 Deadlifts at 80% 1RM
Will go light on these after the weekend , probably start at 90-95kg and work up

Workout
3 rounds for time of:
18 Box Jump Overs, 24in
18 Dumbbell Front Rack Lunges, 2x22.5kg
18 Toes-to-bars
Goal: 7:00-11:00
Time Cap: 15:00
RPE: 8/10
 
Oh and while I’m at it, why have I not tried Anavar before! The pumps from 40mg are fucking insane
Veins popping out of my quads and back of my calves I didn’t even know existed, fantastic!!
 
Rogue888 said:
Hey Fellas

Back from the 2 day comp this weekend, finished up 8th place. Of mention, ended up hitting 150kg deadlift for 3 rep. Was my 1RM a week prior so clearly had some more in the tank + competition adrenaline was pumping.

Currently sitting around 92kg
Still eating well, mostly high protein
A few lollies and simple carbs over the weekend for some boosts of energy over the weekend
Back to the grind now

Training this week;

MONDAY
Strength
For Load
Every 1:30 x 6 Sets
2 Back Squats @75% 1RM
Completed at 110kg

Workout
For time:
Every 1 min, alternating between:
16/13 Row Calories OR 13/10 Bike Calories
8 Burpee Pull-ups
max reps Thrusters, 42.5/30kg
Rest 1 min
Time 15:35 (4 rounds)

TUESDAY
Workout
4 Rounds For Time:
15 Alternating Dumbbell Snatches,22.5kg
3 Wall Walks
15 Alternating Dumbbell Snatches,22.5kg
8 Strict Handstand Push-ups
Into, 1200m Run
Time Cap: 22 Minutes
Primary Objective: Shoulder Fatigue Management
Secondary Objective: Run @ 5k Pace
Completed in 22:30 (run at the end cooked me)

WEDNESDAY IS
Strength
Every 2:00 x 5 Sets
Set 1: 4 Deadlifts at 65% 1RM
Set 2: 3 Deadlifts at 70% 1RM
Set 3: 2 Deadlifts at 75% 1RM
Set 4: 2 Deadlifts at 80% 1RM
Set 5: 2 Deadlifts at 80% 1RM
Will go light on these after the weekend , probably start at 90-95kg and work up

Workout
3 rounds for time of:
18 Box Jump Overs, 24in
18 Dumbbell Front Rack Lunges, 2x22.5kg
18 Toes-to-bars
Goal: 7:00-11:00
Time Cap: 15:00
RPE: 8/10
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@Rogue888 8th place is perfect with big lifters man :)
big wed the deads where hardcore, what was the weight?
 
Rogue888 said:
Oh and while I’m at it, why have I not tried Anavar before! The pumps from 40mg are fucking insane
Veins popping out of my quads and back of my calves I didn’t even know existed, fantastic!!
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for sure anavar pumps are usual, you need to do 2 things get taurine dose higher, get electrolytes and get organ liver support and you'll see with anavar the pumps will clear up a bit man :)
 
Eddie Haskell said:
@Rogue888 8th place is perfect with big lifters man :)
big wed the deads where hardcore, what was the weight?
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Ended up with

Set 1: 4 Deadlifts at 120kg
Set 2: 3 Deadlifts at 130kg
Set 3: 2 Deadlifts at 130kg
Set 4: 2 Deadlifts at 150kg
Set 5: 2 Deadlifts at 150kg

Felt good, bit stiff from competing but also felt good enough to push hard
 
Rogue888 said:
Ended up with

Set 1: 4 Deadlifts at 120kg
Set 2: 3 Deadlifts at 130kg
Set 3: 2 Deadlifts at 130kg
Set 4: 2 Deadlifts at 150kg
Set 5: 2 Deadlifts at 150kg

Felt good, bit stiff from competing but also felt good enough to push hard
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those are big lifts, the only other guy lifting this level on deads is @RoidRage69
check his log
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roidrage69-log.90127/

also @Mobster pushing big weights
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/mobsters-training-diary.84438/unread
 
I like your style of training it's very different
 
just be careful on those jerks you can really hurt your spine health
 
yes make sure you keep an eye on your disc health doing anything overhead
 
keep up the good work man your workouts are very intense
 
just be careful with those shoulders a lot of these training are a little hard on the shoulders
 
Rogue888 said:
Hey Fellas

Back from the 2 day comp this weekend, finished up 8th place. Of mention, ended up hitting 150kg deadlift for 3 rep. Was my 1RM a week prior so clearly had some more in the tank + competition adrenaline was pumping.

Currently sitting around 92kg
Still eating well, mostly high protein
A few lollies and simple carbs over the weekend for some boosts of energy over the weekend
Back to the grind now

Training this week;

MONDAY
Strength
For Load
Every 1:30 x 6 Sets
2 Back Squats @75% 1RM
Completed at 110kg

Workout
For time:
Every 1 min, alternating between:
16/13 Row Calories OR 13/10 Bike Calories
8 Burpee Pull-ups
max reps Thrusters, 42.5/30kg
Rest 1 min
Time 15:35 (4 rounds)

TUESDAY
Workout
4 Rounds For Time:
15 Alternating Dumbbell Snatches,22.5kg
3 Wall Walks
15 Alternating Dumbbell Snatches,22.5kg
8 Strict Handstand Push-ups
Into, 1200m Run
Time Cap: 22 Minutes
Primary Objective: Shoulder Fatigue Management
Secondary Objective: Run @ 5k Pace
Completed in 22:30 (run at the end cooked me)

WEDNESDAY IS
Strength
Every 2:00 x 5 Sets
Set 1: 4 Deadlifts at 65% 1RM
Set 2: 3 Deadlifts at 70% 1RM
Set 3: 2 Deadlifts at 75% 1RM
Set 4: 2 Deadlifts at 80% 1RM
Set 5: 2 Deadlifts at 80% 1RM
Will go light on these after the weekend , probably start at 90-95kg and work up

Workout
3 rounds for time of:
18 Box Jump Overs, 24in
18 Dumbbell Front Rack Lunges, 2x22.5kg
18 Toes-to-bars
Goal: 7:00-11:00
Time Cap: 15:00
RPE: 8/10
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@Rogue888 awesome work right here!
 
Rogue888 said:
Oh and while I’m at it, why have I not tried Anavar before! The pumps from 40mg are fucking insane
Veins popping out of my quads and back of my calves I didn’t even know existed, fantastic!!
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I love me some anavar also
 
Dirt said:
Following from now on . Support the aussies
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Nice, Thanks for the support bro
Quite enjoy reading your posts on the forums , several crack me up 😂
 
Hahaha, seems like you have a unique sense of humour that I like.
Thanks bro so far so good on this bulking cycle
Dirt said:
Please , always consider my posts as mostly satire and harmless poking .
Men on steroids are just funny and easily provoked .
I’m glad you see the funny side of it .
Keep up the good work bro
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Doing great bro
 
Dirt said:
Please , always consider my posts as mostly satire and harmless poking .
Men on steroids are just funny and easily provoked .
I’m glad you see the funny side of it .
Keep up the good work bro
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@Dirt you have my respect for trying your best to help the Aussie EVO family
 
Gents

What’s the thoughts on increasing Anavar from 40mg to 60mg daily?
Been taking 20mg in the morning and then again before gym
Thinking of changing to 20mg in morning and 40mg before gym? Been on it for 2 weeks now and not noticing any bad side effects or anything

Running alongside my Test @ 400mg week and Primo @ 300mg week.
No blood work yet but planning on doing some end of this month
 
Log Update
Slight hiccup this week, been battling a cold for the last 4-5 days. Good news is over the worst of it, but not back to 100% yet. Still sneaking in some training where I can. No running which has actually been a nice change.

Weigh In
Start weight after cut: 89kg
Weigh in 1: 89.8kg
Weigh in 2: 90.9kg
Weigh in 3: 92.0kg

Cycle Update
3 weeks completed on cycle now
No side effects to report on at this stage
Maybe some mild low patience/tolerance issues , mainly at work which has also been a bit busy etc lately
Planning on running this cycle from 12-16 weeks (12 weeks is the minimum goal), will do bloods approx half way through and also towards end of cycle to monitor
Hoping to finish up somewhere around 97-100kg range
Followed by another hard cut which will be assisted with Retatrutide in the new year to cut fat again, hopefully back down to the 90kg range but with a new body type / composition

@Dirt FYI as I know your looking to follow along brother
 
Training Update

THURSDAY
Workout
For Time
"Bucks Eye"
Working in Pairs

0:00-16:00
400m Run (together)
1200 Row (shared)
400m Run (together)
80 Bike Calories (shared)

16:00-28:00
300m Run (together)
900 Row (shared)
300m Run (together)
60 Bike Calories (shared)

28:00-36:00
200m Run (together)
600Row (shared)
200m Run (together)
40 Bike Calories (shared)

FRIDAY/SATURDAY
- Both rest days with sickness mentioned above. older and wiser now & slowly learning to take time off and listen to the the body to recover quicker

SUNDAY
- Completed a recovery session
30 minutes sauna
20 minutes compression boots
5 minute ice bath

MONDAY
Strength
For Load
Every 3:00 x 4 Sets
5 Bench Press
70kg / 75kg / 77.5kg / 80mg

Workout
AMRAP 12
Completed 6 rounds by 12 minute time cap;
3 Strict Pull-ups
6 Push-ups
6 Shuttle Runs, 16m
6 Strict Pull-ups
12 Push-ups
6 Shuttle Runs, 16m
9 Strict Pull-ups
18 Push-ups
6 Shuttle Runs, 16m

TUESDAY
Strength
For Load
Every 3:00 x 4 Sets
3 Back Squats
Starting @ 70-75% and Building to a New 3RM, suggestion is to build by about 5% on each set. Goal of the day is to build to around 95% of our 1RM for 3RM.
Completed as 110kg / 115kg / 120kg / 125kg

125kg is a new 3RM PB for me!
And should push my 1RM up from 130kg to 135-140kg roughly

WEDNESDAY (To be completed)
Does not look fun…… think I’ll be doing level 2 for this one and taking the full 25 time cap available

Workout
For Time
30 Deadlifts, 102.5kg
20 Handstand Push-ups
100 Double Unders
25 Deadlifts, 102.5kg
25 Handstand Push-ups
100 Double Unders
20 Deadlifts, 102.5kg
30 Handstand Push-ups
100 Double Unders
Time cap: 25 mins
Level 2: 85/55kg, 10-15-20 HSPU or HSPU
 
Rogue888 said:
Training Update

THURSDAY
Workout
For Time
"Bucks Eye"
Working in Pairs

0:00-16:00
400m Run (together)
1200 Row (shared)
400m Run (together)
80 Bike Calories (shared)

16:00-28:00
300m Run (together)
900 Row (shared)
300m Run (together)
60 Bike Calories (shared)

28:00-36:00
200m Run (together)
600Row (shared)
200m Run (together)
40 Bike Calories (shared)

FRIDAY/SATURDAY
- Both rest days with sickness mentioned above. older and wiser now & slowly learning to take time off and listen to the the body to recover quicker

SUNDAY
- Completed a recovery session
30 minutes sauna
20 minutes compression boots
5 minute ice bath

MONDAY
Strength
For Load
Every 3:00 x 4 Sets
5 Bench Press
70kg / 75kg / 77.5kg / 80mg

Workout
AMRAP 12
Completed 6 rounds by 12 minute time cap;
3 Strict Pull-ups
6 Push-ups
6 Shuttle Runs, 16m
6 Strict Pull-ups
12 Push-ups
6 Shuttle Runs, 16m
9 Strict Pull-ups
18 Push-ups
6 Shuttle Runs, 16m

TUESDAY
Strength
For Load
Every 3:00 x 4 Sets
3 Back Squats
Starting @ 70-75% and Building to a New 3RM, suggestion is to build by about 5% on each set. Goal of the day is to build to around 95% of our 1RM for 3RM.
Completed as 110kg / 115kg / 120kg / 125kg

125kg is a new 3RM PB for me!
And should push my 1RM up from 130kg to 135-140kg roughly

WEDNESDAY (To be completed)
Does not look fun…… think I’ll be doing level 2 for this one and taking the full 25 time cap available

Workout
For Time
30 Deadlifts, 102.5kg
20 Handstand Push-ups
100 Double Unders
25 Deadlifts, 102.5kg
25 Handstand Push-ups
100 Double Unders
20 Deadlifts, 102.5kg
30 Handstand Push-ups
100 Double Unders
Time cap: 25 mins
Level 2: 85/55kg, 10-15-20 HSPU or HSPU
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@Rogue888 impressive training man :) you have some huge volume
you able to handle this with what macros?
 
Dirt said:
Are you training to be an Ironman or something ?
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Haha. Not quite, just an amateur crossfitter trying to get fit bro, it’s a great culture there and it keeps me coming back. Actually quite addictive which suits my natural addictive personality , so it’s good to channel that into something beneficial
 
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