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First Cycle

I feel the same way. I feel getting bloods done prior definitely is a proper pointer though. Just trying to workout what tests are crucial for what his budget allows.
Yeah it's difficult one. If you could have a look at the nz tests for example, my tests nz and IScreen NZ to see there bundles and lmk - would be much appreciated.
 
Would love to see a log put up here so everyone can help you out.

As for gear, It is clear this younger man has his mind set and will use gear regardless of what is said.
Should we not at the very least give proper pointers.
Yes, I understand there is risk. But from learning the last couple of months, if done properly at a low dose, the sides can be very very little. Hence why I come to you guys for proper advice.
 
Yeah it's difficult one. If you could have a look at the nz tests for example, my tests nz and IScreen NZ to see there bundles and lmk - would be much appreciated.
Yeah I’ll have a look for ya bro, nz smash you guys with big cost on everything over there, couple of my best mates are kiwi and moved to Aus due to the cost of everything back home.
Yes, I understand there is risk. But from learning the last couple of months, if done properly at a low dose, the sides can be very very little. Hence why I come to you guys for proper advice.
And yes your right these things can be achieved whilst managing risks. Best thing right now is to start a log brother. Start a new thread and call it “my first cycle log” for instance and get the ball rolling from there. You will gain what your after on Evo bro that I can assure you. I’ll like one of my logs so you get an idea of how to structure your log and have a look at the others too. Everyone has their own little twist on their logs. I’ll have a look at the test options for you to bro.
 
Yeah I’ll have a look for ya bro, nz smash you guys with big cost on everything over there, couple of my best mates are kiwi and moved to Aus due to the cost of everything back home.

And yes your right these things can be achieved whilst managing risks. Best thing right now is to start a log brother. Start a new thread and call it “my first cycle log” for instance and get the ball rolling from there. You will gain what your after on Evo bro that I can assure you. I’ll like one of my logs so you get an idea of how to structure your log and have a look at the others too. Everyone has their own little twist on their logs. I’ll have a look at the test options for you to bro.
I am thinking of starting the log once I have the bloods done and everything
 
Yeah I’ll have a look for ya bro, nz smash you guys with big cost on everything over there, couple of my best mates are kiwi and moved to Aus due to the cost of everything back home.

And yes your right these things can be achieved whilst managing risks. Best thing right now is to start a log brother. Start a new thread and call it “my first cycle log” for instance and get the ball rolling from there. You will gain what your after on Evo bro that I can assure you. I’ll like one of my logs so you get an idea of how to structure your log and have a look at the others too. Everyone has their own little twist on their logs. I’ll have a look at the test options for you to bro.
If you could help me with the bloods then I can start the log with my results once my shit is all together
 
Hello everyone, hope all is well. I'm looking to start my first cycle within the upcoming weeks. Was just looking for general advice and feedback from veterans who have ran this cycle and have feedback they would like to provide.

I'm 23 years of age, training for around 5 years. I currently run a ppl cycle which I am I love with and have dialled training and diet.

For my first cycle, I plan to take 250 mg Test E for 10 weeks. Potentially stacking with MK677 from Umbrella Labs.

The supps I plan to take are NAC, Milk Thistle, Magnesium, Zinc, Ltyrosine, Fish Oil, Multi Vitamins, ashwagandha, Berberine, CoQ10 (potentially).

I am also planning to get blood works done pre, during, and after the cycle. However, the availability of blood tests is not as well structured as Australia. So I plan to use MyTest -NZ and do testosterone levels and full cbc.

In terms of pct, I have had mixed thoughts in-terms of what to run, or if to pct at all and just blast and cruise. If I did PCT I would probably run something like this:

The day after your last Test injection:

HCG 500iu everyday for 10 days.

2 weeks after your last test injection:

Everyday for 2 weeks:


40mg Nolvadex (2 caps)


100mg Clomid (4 caps)

Everyday for 2 weeks:


20mg Nolvadex (1 cap)


50mg Clomid (2 caps)

However, again, people suggest different things. Obviously I understand there will be consequences. However, I would like to try minimise the sides, hence why I come to this community to provide advice to allow the development of a coherent plan. Additionally, I for sure want kids, this is a no brainer.

Appreciate any advice following this thread. Additionally please do not hate, just would like advice 🙏.
@SwampBoy2002 I've seen you post about your first cycle a few times bro and in discussion.

I'm going to tell you the same thing again, everyone giving you advice here is giving you generic advice bro
we cant really give you advice until we know more about you
how can we do it? we need to know your base level today and going forward and adjust it before you jump on a cycle
HOW? well you need to share your LOG journal in a new thread, full training diet sleep schedule supps and history and we will guide you into a cycle from there
again asking about a cycle without this info wont get your REAL responses you get it?

so we need 15 min of your time to start this off

HOW TO? see below

To really guide you we need more info, we need you to share your diet, training, cardio, sleep, supplements etc log with us in a NEW thread, full log journal so our guidance is based on facts you provide.
We have 100s of years of experience between us, you need to post a LOG Journal with your stats (weight,height,age, years training, cycle history) diet, training, cardio, supplement, sleep details. If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.

Please post a Log Journal asap for us

Please click the anabolic forum
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/forums/anabolic-steroids-and-peds.2/
top RIGHT, you see: +POST THREAD
click that

in Title: write your cycle name, like> My _____ Cycle Log
___ = the name of your log
example: My Pre-cycle Training Log
in body: write your planned cycle or cycle you doing now, your diet, training and we will help you along on your cycle


here are examples of LOG Journals

https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-recomp-cut-log-2023-2024.96694/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/mobsters-training-diary.84438/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roidrage69-log.90127
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/domestic-supply-bulking-log-25homes-max.97609/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...obolan-equipoise-tbol-contest-prep-log.97138/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...osterone-deca-primobolan-hgh-cycle-log.97978/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...igas-hgh-and-bpc157-recovery-cycle-log.97594/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...enbolone-cycle-log-let-the-gains-begin.98399/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/pigsy-new-sponsor-ugl-contest-prep-log.96779/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-2023-2024-log.95956/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...stosterone-cardarine-cutting-cycle-log.97281/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roidragewife-female-training-log.95769/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/2024-lean-bulking-cycle-log.97986/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-trt-with-deca-durabolin-log.97962/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...bodybuilding-log-masters-55-competitor.97210/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/losiol-primobolan-testosterone-log.96581/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roughy-steroid-cycle-and-training.97944/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/fatboy999-2024-cycle-log.97936/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/testosterone-equipoise-trenbolone-cycle-log.96963/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-trt-log.98284/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/16-week-testosterone-cardarine-n2guard-cycle-log.98034/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/training-log-female.90425
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...tosterone-masteron-primobolan-blast-log.98328
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/25homes-revenge-transformation-log-2023.88570/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...n-season-sponsored-by-nordic-fusion-log.89817
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-contest-prep-log.87619/
 
Bro what the actual fk, New Zealand is cooked with their test pricing?! 😳😳
No I understand the financial concern, those prices are astronomical! We can can literally complete full testing for $300 here in Aus would cost you blokes $2000 lol that’s wild.

At a bare minimum this is what I personally would get.

https://www.i-screen.co.nz/tests/male-hormone-check-with-oestradiol

The log is important though bro as @Npcclassicphysique champ said the earlier the better as you can get more accurate advice straight away.
 
Bro what the actual fk, New Zealand is cooked with their test pricing?! 😳😳
No I understand the financial concern, those prices are astronomical! We can can literally complete full testing for $300 here in Aus would cost you blokes $2000 lol that’s wild.

At a bare minimum this is what I personally would get.

https://www.i-screen.co.nz/tests/male-hormone-check-with-oestradiol

The log is important though bro as @Npcclassicphysique champ said the earlier the better as you can get more accurate advice straight away.
That's what I'm saying. I'll just do the package u suggested it's actually wild how much it is here. Unless u do individual at my tests have a look at that. I'll start the log tn then
 
I had a look at my tests too bro but they make it difficult to combine only what you need there is a lot of excess combining their options. The one I suggested gonna be your best best in your circumstances at a minimum.
Yeah cause it's deadass impossible I can't afford 700+ every time prior during and after cycle.
 
I had a look at my tests too bro but they make it difficult to combine only what you need there is a lot of excess combining their options. The one I suggested gonna be your best best in your circumstances at a minimum.
Tbh mate at my tests I could do the individuals:

CBC, E2, Full Lipid Panel, SHBG, Testosterone total, Free Androgen

For 420$
 
Cholesterol should be included regardless if you can afford as any AAS impact this, some more then other though. I’m not sure mk would be the best suit here but the others will chime in on this with more detailed knowledge. These questions are why you should get your log up and going legend 🤙
 
Here's my thoughts. Others may disagree.

1. Don't do it. You're too young and you should be putting this energy into improving your financial position with the aim of peaking physically in your 30's.

2. If you are going to do it I suggest a cycle of mk677 and rad140 or lgd4033 instead. Better results with less management problems.

3. If you insist on test, then start on 250mg, increasing to 500mg. 250mg just won't be worth the expense. I like Arimistane (not Arimidex) for estrogen control myself. Available over the counter, cheap and side effect free.

Learn to manage estrogen on 250mg then slowly increase to 500mg.
 
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