Approved Log First Testosterone Cycle Log

[kingdaves95]

I posted last week and then the very next day I was sick as hell. But I'm just getting back to the messages and I was asked to do this, so here's my best attempt at an informative log.

Initially I wanted to do test and Primo, however I'm learning that my BF is too high for that and given how expensive Primo is I'm not going to waste my time with that.

I've always been a skinny kid until my early 20s when I blew up and got pretty fat. It took my years to drop the weight and now I'm at a place where gaining muscle mass seems to be difficult. I'm guessing that years of bad food food and no gym fucked up my hormones, I'm hoping this can give me an extra edge to achieve my goals.

Stats
30yr old
5" 10
171lbs
~20% BF (I'm not entirely sure, I'm using my galaxy watch for the measurements)

I'm going to be doing a 5x day a week PPL/UL program. I crafted it myself, so if you guys think I'm doing too little or too much volume let me know. After every upper workout I do about 30 minutes of incline walking. On my off days, Thursdays and Sundays, I'm going to try to do some cardio. Right now I'm just thinking about running to keep the stamina up.

Cycle - 12 weeks of Test E, starting at 100 mg and adding an additional 100mg a week until I experience negative sides and then I'll go back to the previous dose. I already have an AI on standby. I'm also thinking of adding in anavar and cardarine for the last 5 weeks of my cycle to deal with any bloating or water mass.

PCT - I have clomid, nolvadex and 10000 hcg. I've been advised that clomid and nolvadex are enough to return my body to normal but I have the hcg just in case.

Goals - for this year I want to gain at least 10-15 pounds of lean mass. I recognize that won't happen in one 12 week cycle. I don't know what I'll get in this cycle but I'll try my hardest anyway.

Concerns - I'm willing to roll with the sides of anything I do except for hair loss. That's the only thing I'm afraid of. Granted, my father is 64 and still has all his hair, I also have 4 brothers and they all have their hair as well. If you guys have any tips on how to prevent hair loss or what signs to look out for, please let me. I acknowledge that by doing this I'm risking it but I want to do it anyway.

Morning
Multivitamin
Omega 3
Vitamin D
Creatine
Ritalin

After Workout
Whey protein
Glutamate
Fibre 4

Before bed
Magnesium Complex
Ashawaganda

Push
Overhead Triceps Extension 3 sets x 12-15
Triceps Pressdown 3 sets x 12-15 reps
Incline Bench Press 3 sets x 5-8 reps
Flat Dumbbell Press 3 sets x 8-10 reps
Cable Flyes 3 sets x 12-15 reps
Cable Lateral Raise 4 sets x 12-15 reps

Pull
Barbell Curl 3 sets x 8-10 reps
Bayesian Curls 3 sets x 12-15 reps
Bent Over Barbell Rows 3 sets x 5-8 reps
Wide Grip Lat Pulldown 3 sets x 8-12 reps
Cable Pullover 3 sets x 12-15 reps
Rear Delt Fly Machine 4 sets x 15-20 reps

Legs
Leg Extensions: 4 sets x 10-12 reps
Leg Curls: 3 sets x 10-12 reps
Leg Press: 3 sets x 8-10 reps
RDL dumbbell: 3 sets x 8-10 reps
Hip Thrusts 3 sets x 5-8 reps
Hip Abduction: 2 x 10
Standing Calf Raises: 4 sets x 12-15 reps

Workout 1: Upper Body A
Bench Press 3 sets x 5-8 reps [3 mins]
Wide Lat Pulldown 3 sets x 12-15 reps [2 mins]
Incline DB Press 3 sets x 8-12 reps [2 mins]
Seated Row 3 sets x 8-12 reps [2 mins]
Shoulder Press 3 sets x 12-15 reps [90s]
Incline Curl 3 sets x 8-12 reps [90s]
Triceps Pressdown 3 sets x 8-12 reps [90s]

Workout 2: Lower Body A
Hack Squat 3 sets x 5-8 reps [3-5 mins]
Romanian Deadlift 3 sets x 8-12 reps [2-3 mins]
Leg Extension 3 sets x 12-15 reps [90 seconds](stand up between sets)
Seated Leg Curl 3 sets x 8-12 reps [2 mins]
Standing Calf Raise 4 sets x 5-8 reps [2 mins]

Diet
I'm working on trying to have a more put together diet. I have the Macrofactor app and will try to follow its recommendations.

I've added in the photos that were requested and some blood work.

Okay I think that's everything.

 

[LevButlerov]

I posted last week and then the very next day I was sick as hell. But I'm just getting back to the messages and I was asked to do this, so here's my best attempt at an informative log.

Initially I wanted to do test and Primo, however I'm learning that my BF is too high for that and given how expensive Primo is I'm not going to waste my time with that.

I've always been a skinny kid until my early 20s when I blew up and got pretty fat. It took my years to drop the weight and now I'm at a place where gaining muscle mass seems to be difficult. I'm guessing that years of bad food food and no gym fucked up my hormones, I'm hoping this can give me an extra edge to achieve my goals.

Stats
30yr old
5" 10
171lbs
~20% BF (I'm not entirely sure, I'm using my galaxy watch for the measurements)

I'm going to be doing a 5x day a week PPL/UL program. I crafted it myself, so if you guys think I'm doing too little or too much volume let me know. After every upper workout I do about 30 minutes of incline walking. On my off days, Thursdays and Sundays, I'm going to try to do some cardio. Right now I'm just thinking about running to keep the stamina up.

Cycle - 12 weeks of Test E, starting at 100 mg and adding an additional 100mg a week until I experience negative sides and then I'll go back to the previous dose. I already have an AI on standby. I'm also thinking of adding in anavar and cardarine for the last 5 weeks of my cycle to deal with any bloating or water mass.

PCT - I have clomid, nolvadex and 10000 hcg. I've been advised that clomid and nolvadex are enough to return my body to normal but I have the hcg just in case.

Goals - for this year I want to gain at least 10-15 pounds of lean mass. I recognize that won't happen in one 12 week cycle. I don't know what I'll get in this cycle but I'll try my hardest anyway.

Concerns - I'm willing to roll with the sides of anything I do except for hair loss. That's the only thing I'm afraid of. Granted, my father is 64 and still has all his hair, I also have 4 brothers and they all have their hair as well. If you guys have any tips on how to prevent hair loss or what signs to look out for, please let me. I acknowledge that by doing this I'm risking it but I want to do it anyway.

Morning
Multivitamin
Omega 3
Vitamin D
Creatine
Ritalin

After Workout
Whey protein
Glutamate
Fibre 4

Before bed
Magnesium Complex
Ashawaganda

Push
Overhead Triceps Extension 3 sets x 12-15
Triceps Pressdown 3 sets x 12-15 reps
Incline Bench Press 3 sets x 5-8 reps
Flat Dumbbell Press 3 sets x 8-10 reps
Cable Flyes 3 sets x 12-15 reps
Cable Lateral Raise 4 sets x 12-15 reps

Pull
Barbell Curl 3 sets x 8-10 reps
Bayesian Curls 3 sets x 12-15 reps
Bent Over Barbell Rows 3 sets x 5-8 reps
Wide Grip Lat Pulldown 3 sets x 8-12 reps
Cable Pullover 3 sets x 12-15 reps
Rear Delt Fly Machine 4 sets x 15-20 reps

Legs
Leg Extensions: 4 sets x 10-12 reps
Leg Curls: 3 sets x 10-12 reps
Leg Press: 3 sets x 8-10 reps
RDL dumbbell: 3 sets x 8-10 reps
Hip Thrusts 3 sets x 5-8 reps
Hip Abduction: 2 x 10
Standing Calf Raises: 4 sets x 12-15 reps

Workout 1: Upper Body A
Bench Press 3 sets x 5-8 reps [3 mins]
Wide Lat Pulldown 3 sets x 12-15 reps [2 mins]
Incline DB Press 3 sets x 8-12 reps [2 mins]
Seated Row 3 sets x 8-12 reps [2 mins]
Shoulder Press 3 sets x 12-15 reps [90s]
Incline Curl 3 sets x 8-12 reps [90s]
Triceps Pressdown 3 sets x 8-12 reps [90s]

Workout 2: Lower Body A
Hack Squat 3 sets x 5-8 reps [3-5 mins]
Romanian Deadlift 3 sets x 8-12 reps [2-3 mins]
Leg Extension 3 sets x 12-15 reps [90 seconds](stand up between sets)
Seated Leg Curl 3 sets x 8-12 reps [2 mins]
Standing Calf Raise 4 sets x 5-8 reps [2 mins]

Diet
I'm working on trying to have a more put together diet. I have the Macrofactor app and will try to follow its recommendations.

I've added in the photos that were requested and some blood work.

Okay I think that's everything

welcome to the EVO family @kingdaves95 good pics you have a solid base we can work from
cycle
you have an ai aromasin on hand?
and i would stay all test good call

Diet, Training, Cardio
Diet, please share foods and meals and when you eat them, macros would be good
Training, please share actual exercises reps sets and weights, as you go especially get stronger, what you posted is 1 off
cardio how much do you do? when etc
If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Or use an app like myfitness pal or cronometer. Very easy.

supplements
Are you taking high doses Vitamin C?
what digestive supps you use?
digestive enzymes?
multis?
probiotics?
psyllium husk?

are you listening to our podcast? if not, you should:
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https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/evolutionary-bodybuilding-radio/id1798623410
https://open.spotify.com/show/53q1RFTgG4h6TQHsJ4xY6Z

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[R.AP]

I posted last week and then the very next day I was sick as hell. But I'm just getting back to the messages and I was asked to do this, so here's my best attempt at an informative log.

Initially I wanted to do test and Primo, however I'm learning that my BF is too high for that and given how expensive Primo is I'm not going to waste my time with that.

I've always been a skinny kid until my early 20s when I blew up and got pretty fat. It took my years to drop the weight and now I'm at a place where gaining muscle mass seems to be difficult. I'm guessing that years of bad food food and no gym fucked up my hormones, I'm hoping this can give me an extra edge to achieve my goals.

Stats
30yr old
5" 10
171lbs
~20% BF (I'm not entirely sure, I'm using my galaxy watch for the measurements)

I'm going to be doing a 5x day a week PPL/UL program. I crafted it myself, so if you guys think I'm doing too little or too much volume let me know. After every upper workout I do about 30 minutes of incline walking. On my off days, Thursdays and Sundays, I'm going to try to do some cardio. Right now I'm just thinking about running to keep the stamina up.

Cycle - 12 weeks of Test E, starting at 100 mg and adding an additional 100mg a week until I experience negative sides and then I'll go back to the previous dose. I already have an AI on standby. I'm also thinking of adding in anavar and cardarine for the last 5 weeks of my cycle to deal with any bloating or water mass.

PCT - I have clomid, nolvadex and 10000 hcg. I've been advised that clomid and nolvadex are enough to return my body to normal but I have the hcg just in case.

Goals - for this year I want to gain at least 10-15 pounds of lean mass. I recognize that won't happen in one 12 week cycle. I don't know what I'll get in this cycle but I'll try my hardest anyway.

Concerns - I'm willing to roll with the sides of anything I do except for hair loss. That's the only thing I'm afraid of. Granted, my father is 64 and still has all his hair, I also have 4 brothers and they all have their hair as well. If you guys have any tips on how to prevent hair loss or what signs to look out for, please let me. I acknowledge that by doing this I'm risking it but I want to do it anyway.

Morning
Multivitamin
Omega 3
Vitamin D
Creatine
Ritalin

After Workout
Whey protein
Glutamate
Fibre 4

Before bed
Magnesium Complex
Ashawaganda

Push
Overhead Triceps Extension 3 sets x 12-15
Triceps Pressdown 3 sets x 12-15 reps
Incline Bench Press 3 sets x 5-8 reps
Flat Dumbbell Press 3 sets x 8-10 reps
Cable Flyes 3 sets x 12-15 reps
Cable Lateral Raise 4 sets x 12-15 reps

Pull
Barbell Curl 3 sets x 8-10 reps
Bayesian Curls 3 sets x 12-15 reps
Bent Over Barbell Rows 3 sets x 5-8 reps
Wide Grip Lat Pulldown 3 sets x 8-12 reps
Cable Pullover 3 sets x 12-15 reps
Rear Delt Fly Machine 4 sets x 15-20 reps

Legs
Leg Extensions: 4 sets x 10-12 reps
Leg Curls: 3 sets x 10-12 reps
Leg Press: 3 sets x 8-10 reps
RDL dumbbell: 3 sets x 8-10 reps
Hip Thrusts 3 sets x 5-8 reps
Hip Abduction: 2 x 10
Standing Calf Raises: 4 sets x 12-15 reps

Workout 1: Upper Body A
Bench Press 3 sets x 5-8 reps [3 mins]
Wide Lat Pulldown 3 sets x 12-15 reps [2 mins]
Incline DB Press 3 sets x 8-12 reps [2 mins]
Seated Row 3 sets x 8-12 reps [2 mins]
Shoulder Press 3 sets x 12-15 reps [90s]
Incline Curl 3 sets x 8-12 reps [90s]
Triceps Pressdown 3 sets x 8-12 reps [90s]

Workout 2: Lower Body A
Hack Squat 3 sets x 5-8 reps [3-5 mins]
Romanian Deadlift 3 sets x 8-12 reps [2-3 mins]
Leg Extension 3 sets x 12-15 reps [90 seconds](stand up between sets)
Seated Leg Curl 3 sets x 8-12 reps [2 mins]
Standing Calf Raise 4 sets x 5-8 reps [2 mins]

Diet
I'm working on trying to have a more put together diet. I have the Macrofactor app and will try to follow its recommendations.

I've added in the photos that were requested and some blood work.

Okay I think that's everything.

Welcome to the forum brother! Cycle plan is absolutely perfect, and is best practice for an introduction to anabolics. Once you find the correct dose, you will build all of your future cycles around this dose.

When it comes to hair-loss a conservative testosterone only cycle is probably one of the safer cycles. To reduce the risk of hair loss you either need to lower/ prevent 5ar activity or reduce androgenic activity. Finasteride is popular.

If you're not genetically pre-disposed to balding I think you'll be okay. Just pay attention and look out for shedding so you can catch it early if it does happen.

Curious to see what you do with your food! Alongside training methodology this will be the main driver of success for you.

Looks like your goal is still fat loss?

@LevButlerov

 

[HarleyGuy]

I posted last week and then the very next day I was sick as hell. But I'm just getting back to the messages and I was asked to do this, so here's my best attempt at an informative log.

Initially I wanted to do test and Primo, however I'm learning that my BF is too high for that and given how expensive Primo is I'm not going to waste my time with that.

I've always been a skinny kid until my early 20s when I blew up and got pretty fat. It took my years to drop the weight and now I'm at a place where gaining muscle mass seems to be difficult. I'm guessing that years of bad food food and no gym fucked up my hormones, I'm hoping this can give me an extra edge to achieve my goals.

Stats
30yr old
5" 10
171lbs
~20% BF (I'm not entirely sure, I'm using my galaxy watch for the measurements)

I'm going to be doing a 5x day a week PPL/UL program. I crafted it myself, so if you guys think I'm doing too little or too much volume let me know. After every upper workout I do about 30 minutes of incline walking. On my off days, Thursdays and Sundays, I'm going to try to do some cardio. Right now I'm just thinking about running to keep the stamina up.

Cycle - 12 weeks of Test E, starting at 100 mg and adding an additional 100mg a week until I experience negative sides and then I'll go back to the previous dose. I already have an AI on standby. I'm also thinking of adding in anavar and cardarine for the last 5 weeks of my cycle to deal with any bloating or water mass.

PCT - I have clomid, nolvadex and 10000 hcg. I've been advised that clomid and nolvadex are enough to return my body to normal but I have the hcg just in case.

Goals - for this year I want to gain at least 10-15 pounds of lean mass. I recognize that won't happen in one 12 week cycle. I don't know what I'll get in this cycle but I'll try my hardest anyway.

Concerns - I'm willing to roll with the sides of anything I do except for hair loss. That's the only thing I'm afraid of. Granted, my father is 64 and still has all his hair, I also have 4 brothers and they all have their hair as well. If you guys have any tips on how to prevent hair loss or what signs to look out for, please let me. I acknowledge that by doing this I'm risking it but I want to do it anyway.

Morning
Multivitamin
Omega 3
Vitamin D
Creatine
Ritalin

After Workout
Whey protein
Glutamate
Fibre 4

Before bed
Magnesium Complex
Ashawaganda

Push
Overhead Triceps Extension 3 sets x 12-15
Triceps Pressdown 3 sets x 12-15 reps
Incline Bench Press 3 sets x 5-8 reps
Flat Dumbbell Press 3 sets x 8-10 reps
Cable Flyes 3 sets x 12-15 reps
Cable Lateral Raise 4 sets x 12-15 reps

Pull
Barbell Curl 3 sets x 8-10 reps
Bayesian Curls 3 sets x 12-15 reps
Bent Over Barbell Rows 3 sets x 5-8 reps
Wide Grip Lat Pulldown 3 sets x 8-12 reps
Cable Pullover 3 sets x 12-15 reps
Rear Delt Fly Machine 4 sets x 15-20 reps

Legs
Leg Extensions: 4 sets x 10-12 reps
Leg Curls: 3 sets x 10-12 reps
Leg Press: 3 sets x 8-10 reps
RDL dumbbell: 3 sets x 8-10 reps
Hip Thrusts 3 sets x 5-8 reps
Hip Abduction: 2 x 10
Standing Calf Raises: 4 sets x 12-15 reps

Workout 1: Upper Body A
Bench Press 3 sets x 5-8 reps [3 mins]
Wide Lat Pulldown 3 sets x 12-15 reps [2 mins]
Incline DB Press 3 sets x 8-12 reps [2 mins]
Seated Row 3 sets x 8-12 reps [2 mins]
Shoulder Press 3 sets x 12-15 reps [90s]
Incline Curl 3 sets x 8-12 reps [90s]
Triceps Pressdown 3 sets x 8-12 reps [90s]

Workout 2: Lower Body A
Hack Squat 3 sets x 5-8 reps [3-5 mins]
Romanian Deadlift 3 sets x 8-12 reps [2-3 mins]
Leg Extension 3 sets x 12-15 reps [90 seconds](stand up between sets)
Seated Leg Curl 3 sets x 8-12 reps [2 mins]
Standing Calf Raise 4 sets x 5-8 reps [2 mins]

Diet
I'm working on trying to have a more put together diet. I have the Macrofactor app and will try to follow its recommendations.

I've added in the photos that were requested and some blood work.

Okay I think that's everything.

This is a well thought out, well, everything! Love the steady as she goes Test only cycle and training looks good. Great starting base here with tons of promise and amazing first log post equipped with bloods that look fantastic!

Let's do this brother and welcome to EVO and EVO logging! You're part of the family now, stick around! Very honoured to have a new squared away member who's ready to rock!

 

[waggat]

I posted last week and then the very next day I was sick as hell. But I'm just getting back to the messages and I was asked to do this, so here's my best attempt at an informative log.

Initially I wanted to do test and Primo, however I'm learning that my BF is too high for that and given how expensive Primo is I'm not going to waste my time with that.

I've always been a skinny kid until my early 20s when I blew up and got pretty fat. It took my years to drop the weight and now I'm at a place where gaining muscle mass seems to be difficult. I'm guessing that years of bad food food and no gym fucked up my hormones, I'm hoping this can give me an extra edge to achieve my goals.

Stats
30yr old
5" 10
171lbs
~20% BF (I'm not entirely sure, I'm using my galaxy watch for the measurements)

I'm going to be doing a 5x day a week PPL/UL program. I crafted it myself, so if you guys think I'm doing too little or too much volume let me know. After every upper workout I do about 30 minutes of incline walking. On my off days, Thursdays and Sundays, I'm going to try to do some cardio. Right now I'm just thinking about running to keep the stamina up.

Cycle - 12 weeks of Test E, starting at 100 mg and adding an additional 100mg a week until I experience negative sides and then I'll go back to the previous dose. I already have an AI on standby. I'm also thinking of adding in anavar and cardarine for the last 5 weeks of my cycle to deal with any bloating or water mass.

PCT - I have clomid, nolvadex and 10000 hcg. I've been advised that clomid and nolvadex are enough to return my body to normal but I have the hcg just in case.

Goals - for this year I want to gain at least 10-15 pounds of lean mass. I recognize that won't happen in one 12 week cycle. I don't know what I'll get in this cycle but I'll try my hardest anyway.

Concerns - I'm willing to roll with the sides of anything I do except for hair loss. That's the only thing I'm afraid of. Granted, my father is 64 and still has all his hair, I also have 4 brothers and they all have their hair as well. If you guys have any tips on how to prevent hair loss or what signs to look out for, please let me. I acknowledge that by doing this I'm risking it but I want to do it anyway.

Morning
Multivitamin
Omega 3
Vitamin D
Creatine
Ritalin

After Workout
Whey protein
Glutamate
Fibre 4

Before bed
Magnesium Complex
Ashawaganda

Push
Overhead Triceps Extension 3 sets x 12-15
Triceps Pressdown 3 sets x 12-15 reps
Incline Bench Press 3 sets x 5-8 reps
Flat Dumbbell Press 3 sets x 8-10 reps
Cable Flyes 3 sets x 12-15 reps
Cable Lateral Raise 4 sets x 12-15 reps

Pull
Barbell Curl 3 sets x 8-10 reps
Bayesian Curls 3 sets x 12-15 reps
Bent Over Barbell Rows 3 sets x 5-8 reps
Wide Grip Lat Pulldown 3 sets x 8-12 reps
Cable Pullover 3 sets x 12-15 reps
Rear Delt Fly Machine 4 sets x 15-20 reps

Legs
Leg Extensions: 4 sets x 10-12 reps
Leg Curls: 3 sets x 10-12 reps
Leg Press: 3 sets x 8-10 reps
RDL dumbbell: 3 sets x 8-10 reps
Hip Thrusts 3 sets x 5-8 reps
Hip Abduction: 2 x 10
Standing Calf Raises: 4 sets x 12-15 reps

Workout 1: Upper Body A
Bench Press 3 sets x 5-8 reps [3 mins]
Wide Lat Pulldown 3 sets x 12-15 reps [2 mins]
Incline DB Press 3 sets x 8-12 reps [2 mins]
Seated Row 3 sets x 8-12 reps [2 mins]
Shoulder Press 3 sets x 12-15 reps [90s]
Incline Curl 3 sets x 8-12 reps [90s]
Triceps Pressdown 3 sets x 8-12 reps [90s]

Workout 2: Lower Body A
Hack Squat 3 sets x 5-8 reps [3-5 mins]
Romanian Deadlift 3 sets x 8-12 reps [2-3 mins]
Leg Extension 3 sets x 12-15 reps [90 seconds](stand up between sets)
Seated Leg Curl 3 sets x 8-12 reps [2 mins]
Standing Calf Raise 4 sets x 5-8 reps [2 mins]

Diet
I'm working on trying to have a more put together diet. I have the Macrofactor app and will try to follow its recommendations.

I've added in the photos that were requested and some blood work.

Okay I think that's everything.

Nice post mate and welcome to Evo!

Your workout plan looks good. P/P/L/U/L is pretty popular. Good looking exercises as well. I would personally do arms stuff after the chest/back stuff though.

You look pretty good in the photos. If you lose a bit of fat I think you will look really good.

 

[BeMe]

I posted last week and then the very next day I was sick as hell. But I'm just getting back to the messages and I was asked to do this, so here's my best attempt at an informative log.

Initially I wanted to do test and Primo, however I'm learning that my BF is too high for that and given how expensive Primo is I'm not going to waste my time with that.

I've always been a skinny kid until my early 20s when I blew up and got pretty fat. It took my years to drop the weight and now I'm at a place where gaining muscle mass seems to be difficult. I'm guessing that years of bad food food and no gym fucked up my hormones, I'm hoping this can give me an extra edge to achieve my goals.

Stats
30yr old
5" 10
171lbs
~20% BF (I'm not entirely sure, I'm using my galaxy watch for the measurements)

I'm going to be doing a 5x day a week PPL/UL program. I crafted it myself, so if you guys think I'm doing too little or too much volume let me know. After every upper workout I do about 30 minutes of incline walking. On my off days, Thursdays and Sundays, I'm going to try to do some cardio. Right now I'm just thinking about running to keep the stamina up.

Cycle - 12 weeks of Test E, starting at 100 mg and adding an additional 100mg a week until I experience negative sides and then I'll go back to the previous dose. I already have an AI on standby. I'm also thinking of adding in anavar and cardarine for the last 5 weeks of my cycle to deal with any bloating or water mass.

PCT - I have clomid, nolvadex and 10000 hcg. I've been advised that clomid and nolvadex are enough to return my body to normal but I have the hcg just in case.

Goals - for this year I want to gain at least 10-15 pounds of lean mass. I recognize that won't happen in one 12 week cycle. I don't know what I'll get in this cycle but I'll try my hardest anyway.

Concerns - I'm willing to roll with the sides of anything I do except for hair loss. That's the only thing I'm afraid of. Granted, my father is 64 and still has all his hair, I also have 4 brothers and they all have their hair as well. If you guys have any tips on how to prevent hair loss or what signs to look out for, please let me. I acknowledge that by doing this I'm risking it but I want to do it anyway.

Morning
Multivitamin
Omega 3
Vitamin D
Creatine
Ritalin

After Workout
Whey protein
Glutamate
Fibre 4

Before bed
Magnesium Complex
Ashawaganda

Push
Overhead Triceps Extension 3 sets x 12-15
Triceps Pressdown 3 sets x 12-15 reps
Incline Bench Press 3 sets x 5-8 reps
Flat Dumbbell Press 3 sets x 8-10 reps
Cable Flyes 3 sets x 12-15 reps
Cable Lateral Raise 4 sets x 12-15 reps

Pull
Barbell Curl 3 sets x 8-10 reps
Bayesian Curls 3 sets x 12-15 reps
Bent Over Barbell Rows 3 sets x 5-8 reps
Wide Grip Lat Pulldown 3 sets x 8-12 reps
Cable Pullover 3 sets x 12-15 reps
Rear Delt Fly Machine 4 sets x 15-20 reps

Legs
Leg Extensions: 4 sets x 10-12 reps
Leg Curls: 3 sets x 10-12 reps
Leg Press: 3 sets x 8-10 reps
RDL dumbbell: 3 sets x 8-10 reps
Hip Thrusts 3 sets x 5-8 reps
Hip Abduction: 2 x 10
Standing Calf Raises: 4 sets x 12-15 reps

Workout 1: Upper Body A
Bench Press 3 sets x 5-8 reps [3 mins]
Wide Lat Pulldown 3 sets x 12-15 reps [2 mins]
Incline DB Press 3 sets x 8-12 reps [2 mins]
Seated Row 3 sets x 8-12 reps [2 mins]
Shoulder Press 3 sets x 12-15 reps [90s]
Incline Curl 3 sets x 8-12 reps [90s]
Triceps Pressdown 3 sets x 8-12 reps [90s]

Workout 2: Lower Body A
Hack Squat 3 sets x 5-8 reps [3-5 mins]
Romanian Deadlift 3 sets x 8-12 reps [2-3 mins]
Leg Extension 3 sets x 12-15 reps [90 seconds](stand up between sets)
Seated Leg Curl 3 sets x 8-12 reps [2 mins]
Standing Calf Raise 4 sets x 5-8 reps [2 mins]

Diet
I'm working on trying to have a more put together diet. I have the Macrofactor app and will try to follow its recommendations.

I've added in the photos that were requested and some blood work.

Okay I think that's everything.

Hey bro great start to the log. Good job dropping the weight to. You're getting really close to a place you can run a cycle from.

With the test E it will be hard to adjust on the fly cuz it take weeks to build up. I'm assuming this is the first time you're running test? It would be good to pick a safe starting dose like 150mg and get bloods after 6 weeks so you know what's going on and can adjust from there. You'll be amazed how much a healthy dose of test will change your physque.

Personally I got leaner and added 13lbs of bodyweight in 5 month. I was crazy shredded at that point too. The test alone will work wonders for you

 

[kingdaves95]

welcome to the EVO family @kingdaves95 good pics you have a solid base we can work from
cycle
you have an ai aromasin on hand?
and i would stay all test good call

Diet, Training, Cardio
Diet, please share foods and meals and when you eat them, macros would be good
Training, please share actual exercises reps sets and weights, as you go especially get stronger, what you posted is 1 off
cardio how much do you do? when etc
If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Or use an app like myfitness pal or cronometer. Very easy.

supplements
Are you taking high doses Vitamin C?
what digestive supps you use?
digestive enzymes?
multis?
probiotics?
psyllium husk?

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Yes I have Aromasin on hand, and I did a program on Macrofactor. They have my macros to gain go from 171lbs to 178 in 12 weeks at:
2446 cals
175g protein
81g fat
252g carbs

Just by looking at this and with previous diets I'll likely do:
Breakfast - 6 whole eggs, cup of spinach, whole avacado
Protein shake - 3 scoops of whey protein isolate
Lunch and Dinner - white rice, mixed veggies or broccoli, boneless skinless chicken thighs or 80/20 ground beef
Late night snack - Frozen yogurt and blueberries

Not taking vitamin c currently, I put glutamate in my protein shakes, I take 2 Seed probiotics, 2 multivitamin gummies a day, and I add fibre 4 in my protein shakes.

 

[kingdaves95]

Nice post mate and welcome to Evo!

Your workout plan looks good. P/P/L/U/L is pretty popular. Good looking exercises as well. I would personally do arms stuff after the chest/back stuff though.

You look pretty good in the photos. If you lose a bit of fat I think you will look really good.

Okay I was thinking that

Welcome to the forum brother! Cycle plan is absolutely perfect, and is best practice for an introduction to anabolics. Once you find the correct dose, you will build all of your future cycles around this dose.

When it comes to hair-loss a conservative testosterone only cycle is probably one of the safer cycles. To reduce the risk of hair loss you either need to lower/ prevent 5ar activity or reduce androgenic activity. Finasteride is popular.

If you're not genetically pre-disposed to balding I think you'll be okay. Just pay attention and look out for shedding so you can catch it early if it does happen.

Curious to see what you do with your food! Alongside training methodology this will be the main driver of success for you.

Looks like your goal is still fat loss?

@LevButlerov

Thanks for the hair advice! And honestly at this point I need more muscle on this body, I'll worry about losing fat once I find a good stride.

 

[Coolguy]

Welcome brother.
Your spot on if we can dial in your diet and training get yourself a bit leaner then you can add in your compounds.
I personally would do a mini cut prior to a growth phase to increase insulin sensitivity and help the efficiency of the anabolics.
Like the other boys said get a list of your supps up if you are unsure let us know we can help you out.

 

[waggat]

Yes I have Aromasin on hand, and I did a program on Macrofactor. They have my macros to gain go from 171lbs to 178 in 12 weeks at:
2446 cals
175g protein
81g fat
252g carbs

Just by looking at this and with previous diets I'll likely do:
Breakfast - 6 whole eggs, cup of spinach, whole avacado
Protein shake - 3 scoops of whey protein isolate
Lunch and Dinner - white rice, mixed veggies or broccoli, boneless skinless chicken thighs or 80/20 ground beef
Late night snack - Frozen yogurt and blueberries

Not taking vitamin c currently, I put glutamate in my protein shakes, I take 2 Seed probiotics, 2 multivitamin gummies a day, and I add fibre 4 in my protein shakes.

Food choices look good here mate. Probably worth getting that protein to at least 200g though.

 

[Dreamer]

I posted last week and then the very next day I was sick as hell. But I'm just getting back to the messages and I was asked to do this, so here's my best attempt at an informative log.

Initially I wanted to do test and Primo, however I'm learning that my BF is too high for that and given how expensive Primo is I'm not going to waste my time with that.

I've always been a skinny kid until my early 20s when I blew up and got pretty fat. It took my years to drop the weight and now I'm at a place where gaining muscle mass seems to be difficult. I'm guessing that years of bad food food and no gym fucked up my hormones, I'm hoping this can give me an extra edge to achieve my goals.

Stats
30yr old
5" 10
171lbs
~20% BF (I'm not entirely sure, I'm using my galaxy watch for the measurements)

I'm going to be doing a 5x day a week PPL/UL program. I crafted it myself, so if you guys think I'm doing too little or too much volume let me know. After every upper workout I do about 30 minutes of incline walking. On my off days, Thursdays and Sundays, I'm going to try to do some cardio. Right now I'm just thinking about running to keep the stamina up.

Cycle - 12 weeks of Test E, starting at 100 mg and adding an additional 100mg a week until I experience negative sides and then I'll go back to the previous dose. I already have an AI on standby. I'm also thinking of adding in anavar and cardarine for the last 5 weeks of my cycle to deal with any bloating or water mass.

PCT - I have clomid, nolvadex and 10000 hcg. I've been advised that clomid and nolvadex are enough to return my body to normal but I have the hcg just in case.

Goals - for this year I want to gain at least 10-15 pounds of lean mass. I recognize that won't happen in one 12 week cycle. I don't know what I'll get in this cycle but I'll try my hardest anyway.

Concerns - I'm willing to roll with the sides of anything I do except for hair loss. That's the only thing I'm afraid of. Granted, my father is 64 and still has all his hair, I also have 4 brothers and they all have their hair as well. If you guys have any tips on how to prevent hair loss or what signs to look out for, please let me. I acknowledge that by doing this I'm risking it but I want to do it anyway.

Morning
Multivitamin
Omega 3
Vitamin D
Creatine
Ritalin

After Workout
Whey protein
Glutamate
Fibre 4

Before bed
Magnesium Complex
Ashawaganda

Push
Overhead Triceps Extension 3 sets x 12-15
Triceps Pressdown 3 sets x 12-15 reps
Incline Bench Press 3 sets x 5-8 reps
Flat Dumbbell Press 3 sets x 8-10 reps
Cable Flyes 3 sets x 12-15 reps
Cable Lateral Raise 4 sets x 12-15 reps

Pull
Barbell Curl 3 sets x 8-10 reps
Bayesian Curls 3 sets x 12-15 reps
Bent Over Barbell Rows 3 sets x 5-8 reps
Wide Grip Lat Pulldown 3 sets x 8-12 reps
Cable Pullover 3 sets x 12-15 reps
Rear Delt Fly Machine 4 sets x 15-20 reps

Legs
Leg Extensions: 4 sets x 10-12 reps
Leg Curls: 3 sets x 10-12 reps
Leg Press: 3 sets x 8-10 reps
RDL dumbbell: 3 sets x 8-10 reps
Hip Thrusts 3 sets x 5-8 reps
Hip Abduction: 2 x 10
Standing Calf Raises: 4 sets x 12-15 reps

Workout 1: Upper Body A
Bench Press 3 sets x 5-8 reps [3 mins]
Wide Lat Pulldown 3 sets x 12-15 reps [2 mins]
Incline DB Press 3 sets x 8-12 reps [2 mins]
Seated Row 3 sets x 8-12 reps [2 mins]
Shoulder Press 3 sets x 12-15 reps [90s]
Incline Curl 3 sets x 8-12 reps [90s]
Triceps Pressdown 3 sets x 8-12 reps [90s]

Workout 2: Lower Body A
Hack Squat 3 sets x 5-8 reps [3-5 mins]
Romanian Deadlift 3 sets x 8-12 reps [2-3 mins]
Leg Extension 3 sets x 12-15 reps [90 seconds](stand up between sets)
Seated Leg Curl 3 sets x 8-12 reps [2 mins]
Standing Calf Raise 4 sets x 5-8 reps [2 mins]

Diet
I'm working on trying to have a more put together diet. I have the Macrofactor app and will try to follow its recommendations.

I've added in the photos that were requested and some blood work.

Okay I think that's everything.

Solid base to work with mate, curious to know what amount of Omega 3 you are taking?

 

[Mobster]

It looks like 20% to me too

 

[LevButlerov]

Yes I have Aromasin on hand, and I did a program on Macrofactor. They have my macros to gain go from 171lbs to 178 in 12 weeks at:
2446 cals
175g protein
81g fat
252g carbs

Just by looking at this and with previous diets I'll likely do:
Breakfast - 6 whole eggs, cup of spinach, whole avacado
Protein shake - 3 scoops of whey protein isolate
Lunch and Dinner - white rice, mixed veggies or broccoli, boneless skinless chicken thighs or 80/20 ground beef
Late night snack - Frozen yogurt and blueberries

Not taking vitamin c currently, I put glutamate in my protein shakes, I take 2 Seed probiotics, 2 multivitamin gummies a day, and I add fibre 4 in my protein shakes.

Thats a fine mix but add scoop of protein in the night snack +20 and add 2 eggs am and protein shake add oats to it to start @kingdaves95
aromasin how much? what brand?

 

[kingdaves95]

Thats a fine mix but add scoop of protein in the night snack +20 and add 2 eggs am and protein shake add oats to it to start @kingdaves95
aromasin how much? what brand?

Ok will do and I'll send a picture of the AI

 

[stevesmi]

I posted last week and then the very next day I was sick as hell. But I'm just getting back to the messages and I was asked to do this, so here's my best attempt at an informative log.

Initially I wanted to do test and Primo, however I'm learning that my BF is too high for that and given how expensive Primo is I'm not going to waste my time with that.

I've always been a skinny kid until my early 20s when I blew up and got pretty fat. It took my years to drop the weight and now I'm at a place where gaining muscle mass seems to be difficult. I'm guessing that years of bad food food and no gym fucked up my hormones, I'm hoping this can give me an extra edge to achieve my goals.

Stats
30yr old
5" 10
171lbs
~20% BF (I'm not entirely sure, I'm using my galaxy watch for the measurements)

I'm going to be doing a 5x day a week PPL/UL program. I crafted it myself, so if you guys think I'm doing too little or too much volume let me know. After every upper workout I do about 30 minutes of incline walking. On my off days, Thursdays and Sundays, I'm going to try to do some cardio. Right now I'm just thinking about running to keep the stamina up.

Cycle - 12 weeks of Test E, starting at 100 mg and adding an additional 100mg a week until I experience negative sides and then I'll go back to the previous dose. I already have an AI on standby. I'm also thinking of adding in anavar and cardarine for the last 5 weeks of my cycle to deal with any bloating or water mass.

PCT - I have clomid, nolvadex and 10000 hcg. I've been advised that clomid and nolvadex are enough to return my body to normal but I have the hcg just in case.

Goals - for this year I want to gain at least 10-15 pounds of lean mass. I recognize that won't happen in one 12 week cycle. I don't know what I'll get in this cycle but I'll try my hardest anyway.

Concerns - I'm willing to roll with the sides of anything I do except for hair loss. That's the only thing I'm afraid of. Granted, my father is 64 and still has all his hair, I also have 4 brothers and they all have their hair as well. If you guys have any tips on how to prevent hair loss or what signs to look out for, please let me. I acknowledge that by doing this I'm risking it but I want to do it anyway.

Morning
Multivitamin
Omega 3
Vitamin D
Creatine
Ritalin

After Workout
Whey protein
Glutamate
Fibre 4

Before bed
Magnesium Complex
Ashawaganda

Push
Overhead Triceps Extension 3 sets x 12-15
Triceps Pressdown 3 sets x 12-15 reps
Incline Bench Press 3 sets x 5-8 reps
Flat Dumbbell Press 3 sets x 8-10 reps
Cable Flyes 3 sets x 12-15 reps
Cable Lateral Raise 4 sets x 12-15 reps

Pull
Barbell Curl 3 sets x 8-10 reps
Bayesian Curls 3 sets x 12-15 reps
Bent Over Barbell Rows 3 sets x 5-8 reps
Wide Grip Lat Pulldown 3 sets x 8-12 reps
Cable Pullover 3 sets x 12-15 reps
Rear Delt Fly Machine 4 sets x 15-20 reps

Legs
Leg Extensions: 4 sets x 10-12 reps
Leg Curls: 3 sets x 10-12 reps
Leg Press: 3 sets x 8-10 reps
RDL dumbbell: 3 sets x 8-10 reps
Hip Thrusts 3 sets x 5-8 reps
Hip Abduction: 2 x 10
Standing Calf Raises: 4 sets x 12-15 reps

Workout 1: Upper Body A
Bench Press 3 sets x 5-8 reps [3 mins]
Wide Lat Pulldown 3 sets x 12-15 reps [2 mins]
Incline DB Press 3 sets x 8-12 reps [2 mins]
Seated Row 3 sets x 8-12 reps [2 mins]
Shoulder Press 3 sets x 12-15 reps [90s]
Incline Curl 3 sets x 8-12 reps [90s]
Triceps Pressdown 3 sets x 8-12 reps [90s]

Workout 2: Lower Body A
Hack Squat 3 sets x 5-8 reps [3-5 mins]
Romanian Deadlift 3 sets x 8-12 reps [2-3 mins]
Leg Extension 3 sets x 12-15 reps [90 seconds](stand up between sets)
Seated Leg Curl 3 sets x 8-12 reps [2 mins]
Standing Calf Raise 4 sets x 5-8 reps [2 mins]

Diet
I'm working on trying to have a more put together diet. I have the Macrofactor app and will try to follow its recommendations.

I've added in the photos that were requested and some blood work.

Okay I think that's everything.

@kingdaves95 nice volume on this training. he legs in particular are really strong. you will continue killing it if you keep that up

 

[2Thick]

I posted last week and then the very next day I was sick as hell. But I'm just getting back to the messages and I was asked to do this, so here's my best attempt at an informative log.

Initially I wanted to do test and Primo, however I'm learning that my BF is too high for that and given how expensive Primo is I'm not going to waste my time with that.

I've always been a skinny kid until my early 20s when I blew up and got pretty fat. It took my years to drop the weight and now I'm at a place where gaining muscle mass seems to be difficult. I'm guessing that years of bad food food and no gym fucked up my hormones, I'm hoping this can give me an extra edge to achieve my goals.

Stats
30yr old
5" 10
171lbs
~20% BF (I'm not entirely sure, I'm using my galaxy watch for the measurements)

I'm going to be doing a 5x day a week PPL/UL program. I crafted it myself, so if you guys think I'm doing too little or too much volume let me know. After every upper workout I do about 30 minutes of incline walking. On my off days, Thursdays and Sundays, I'm going to try to do some cardio. Right now I'm just thinking about running to keep the stamina up.

Cycle - 12 weeks of Test E, starting at 100 mg and adding an additional 100mg a week until I experience negative sides and then I'll go back to the previous dose. I already have an AI on standby. I'm also thinking of adding in anavar and cardarine for the last 5 weeks of my cycle to deal with any bloating or water mass.

PCT - I have clomid, nolvadex and 10000 hcg. I've been advised that clomid and nolvadex are enough to return my body to normal but I have the hcg just in case.

Goals - for this year I want to gain at least 10-15 pounds of lean mass. I recognize that won't happen in one 12 week cycle. I don't know what I'll get in this cycle but I'll try my hardest anyway.

Concerns - I'm willing to roll with the sides of anything I do except for hair loss. That's the only thing I'm afraid of. Granted, my father is 64 and still has all his hair, I also have 4 brothers and they all have their hair as well. If you guys have any tips on how to prevent hair loss or what signs to look out for, please let me. I acknowledge that by doing this I'm risking it but I want to do it anyway.

Morning
Multivitamin
Omega 3
Vitamin D
Creatine
Ritalin

After Workout
Whey protein
Glutamate
Fibre 4

Before bed
Magnesium Complex
Ashawaganda

Push
Overhead Triceps Extension 3 sets x 12-15
Triceps Pressdown 3 sets x 12-15 reps
Incline Bench Press 3 sets x 5-8 reps
Flat Dumbbell Press 3 sets x 8-10 reps
Cable Flyes 3 sets x 12-15 reps
Cable Lateral Raise 4 sets x 12-15 reps

Pull
Barbell Curl 3 sets x 8-10 reps
Bayesian Curls 3 sets x 12-15 reps
Bent Over Barbell Rows 3 sets x 5-8 reps
Wide Grip Lat Pulldown 3 sets x 8-12 reps
Cable Pullover 3 sets x 12-15 reps
Rear Delt Fly Machine 4 sets x 15-20 reps

Legs
Leg Extensions: 4 sets x 10-12 reps
Leg Curls: 3 sets x 10-12 reps
Leg Press: 3 sets x 8-10 reps
RDL dumbbell: 3 sets x 8-10 reps
Hip Thrusts 3 sets x 5-8 reps
Hip Abduction: 2 x 10
Standing Calf Raises: 4 sets x 12-15 reps

Workout 1: Upper Body A
Bench Press 3 sets x 5-8 reps [3 mins]
Wide Lat Pulldown 3 sets x 12-15 reps [2 mins]
Incline DB Press 3 sets x 8-12 reps [2 mins]
Seated Row 3 sets x 8-12 reps [2 mins]
Shoulder Press 3 sets x 12-15 reps [90s]
Incline Curl 3 sets x 8-12 reps [90s]
Triceps Pressdown 3 sets x 8-12 reps [90s]

Workout 2: Lower Body A
Hack Squat 3 sets x 5-8 reps [3-5 mins]
Romanian Deadlift 3 sets x 8-12 reps [2-3 mins]
Leg Extension 3 sets x 12-15 reps [90 seconds](stand up between sets)
Seated Leg Curl 3 sets x 8-12 reps [2 mins]
Standing Calf Raise 4 sets x 5-8 reps [2 mins]

Diet
I'm working on trying to have a more put together diet. I have the Macrofactor app and will try to follow its recommendations.

I've added in the photos that were requested and some blood work.

Okay I think that's everything.

The leg training looks really fantastic. Leg curls and leg presses are on point. Also, the hip thrusts are on point as well. @kingdaves95

 

[Ulter]

I posted last week and then the very next day I was sick as hell. But I'm just getting back to the messages and I was asked to do this, so here's my best attempt at an informative log.

Initially I wanted to do test and Primo, however I'm learning that my BF is too high for that and given how expensive Primo is I'm not going to waste my time with that.

I've always been a skinny kid until my early 20s when I blew up and got pretty fat. It took my years to drop the weight and now I'm at a place where gaining muscle mass seems to be difficult. I'm guessing that years of bad food food and no gym fucked up my hormones, I'm hoping this can give me an extra edge to achieve my goals.

Stats
30yr old
5" 10
171lbs
~20% BF (I'm not entirely sure, I'm using my galaxy watch for the measurements)

I'm going to be doing a 5x day a week PPL/UL program. I crafted it myself, so if you guys think I'm doing too little or too much volume let me know. After every upper workout I do about 30 minutes of incline walking. On my off days, Thursdays and Sundays, I'm going to try to do some cardio. Right now I'm just thinking about running to keep the stamina up.

Cycle - 12 weeks of Test E, starting at 100 mg and adding an additional 100mg a week until I experience negative sides and then I'll go back to the previous dose. I already have an AI on standby. I'm also thinking of adding in anavar and cardarine for the last 5 weeks of my cycle to deal with any bloating or water mass.

PCT - I have clomid, nolvadex and 10000 hcg. I've been advised that clomid and nolvadex are enough to return my body to normal but I have the hcg just in case.

Goals - for this year I want to gain at least 10-15 pounds of lean mass. I recognize that won't happen in one 12 week cycle. I don't know what I'll get in this cycle but I'll try my hardest anyway.

Concerns - I'm willing to roll with the sides of anything I do except for hair loss. That's the only thing I'm afraid of. Granted, my father is 64 and still has all his hair, I also have 4 brothers and they all have their hair as well. If you guys have any tips on how to prevent hair loss or what signs to look out for, please let me. I acknowledge that by doing this I'm risking it but I want to do it anyway.

Morning
Multivitamin
Omega 3
Vitamin D
Creatine
Ritalin

After Workout
Whey protein
Glutamate
Fibre 4

Before bed
Magnesium Complex
Ashawaganda

Push
Overhead Triceps Extension 3 sets x 12-15
Triceps Pressdown 3 sets x 12-15 reps
Incline Bench Press 3 sets x 5-8 reps
Flat Dumbbell Press 3 sets x 8-10 reps
Cable Flyes 3 sets x 12-15 reps
Cable Lateral Raise 4 sets x 12-15 reps

Pull
Barbell Curl 3 sets x 8-10 reps
Bayesian Curls 3 sets x 12-15 reps
Bent Over Barbell Rows 3 sets x 5-8 reps
Wide Grip Lat Pulldown 3 sets x 8-12 reps
Cable Pullover 3 sets x 12-15 reps
Rear Delt Fly Machine 4 sets x 15-20 reps

Legs
Leg Extensions: 4 sets x 10-12 reps
Leg Curls: 3 sets x 10-12 reps
Leg Press: 3 sets x 8-10 reps
RDL dumbbell: 3 sets x 8-10 reps
Hip Thrusts 3 sets x 5-8 reps
Hip Abduction: 2 x 10
Standing Calf Raises: 4 sets x 12-15 reps

Workout 1: Upper Body A
Bench Press 3 sets x 5-8 reps [3 mins]
Wide Lat Pulldown 3 sets x 12-15 reps [2 mins]
Incline DB Press 3 sets x 8-12 reps [2 mins]
Seated Row 3 sets x 8-12 reps [2 mins]
Shoulder Press 3 sets x 12-15 reps [90s]
Incline Curl 3 sets x 8-12 reps [90s]
Triceps Pressdown 3 sets x 8-12 reps [90s]

Workout 2: Lower Body A
Hack Squat 3 sets x 5-8 reps [3-5 mins]
Romanian Deadlift 3 sets x 8-12 reps [2-3 mins]
Leg Extension 3 sets x 12-15 reps [90 seconds](stand up between sets)
Seated Leg Curl 3 sets x 8-12 reps [2 mins]
Standing Calf Raise 4 sets x 5-8 reps [2 mins]

Diet
I'm working on trying to have a more put together diet. I have the Macrofactor app and will try to follow its recommendations.

I've added in the photos that were requested and some blood work.

Okay I think that's everything.

Looking really good on these workouts. I like the upper body A and lower body A, back to back like that. @kingdaves95 seems like you got a good read on how your body is reacting.

 

[ceo]

I posted last week and then the very next day I was sick as hell. But I'm just getting back to the messages and I was asked to do this, so here's my best attempt at an informative log.

Initially I wanted to do test and Primo, however I'm learning that my BF is too high for that and given how expensive Primo is I'm not going to waste my time with that.

I've always been a skinny kid until my early 20s when I blew up and got pretty fat. It took my years to drop the weight and now I'm at a place where gaining muscle mass seems to be difficult. I'm guessing that years of bad food food and no gym fucked up my hormones, I'm hoping this can give me an extra edge to achieve my goals.

Stats
30yr old
5" 10
171lbs
~20% BF (I'm not entirely sure, I'm using my galaxy watch for the measurements)

I'm going to be doing a 5x day a week PPL/UL program. I crafted it myself, so if you guys think I'm doing too little or too much volume let me know. After every upper workout I do about 30 minutes of incline walking. On my off days, Thursdays and Sundays, I'm going to try to do some cardio. Right now I'm just thinking about running to keep the stamina up.

Cycle - 12 weeks of Test E, starting at 100 mg and adding an additional 100mg a week until I experience negative sides and then I'll go back to the previous dose. I already have an AI on standby. I'm also thinking of adding in anavar and cardarine for the last 5 weeks of my cycle to deal with any bloating or water mass.

PCT - I have clomid, nolvadex and 10000 hcg. I've been advised that clomid and nolvadex are enough to return my body to normal but I have the hcg just in case.

Goals - for this year I want to gain at least 10-15 pounds of lean mass. I recognize that won't happen in one 12 week cycle. I don't know what I'll get in this cycle but I'll try my hardest anyway.

Concerns - I'm willing to roll with the sides of anything I do except for hair loss. That's the only thing I'm afraid of. Granted, my father is 64 and still has all his hair, I also have 4 brothers and they all have their hair as well. If you guys have any tips on how to prevent hair loss or what signs to look out for, please let me. I acknowledge that by doing this I'm risking it but I want to do it anyway.

Morning
Multivitamin
Omega 3
Vitamin D
Creatine
Ritalin

After Workout
Whey protein
Glutamate
Fibre 4

Before bed
Magnesium Complex
Ashawaganda

Push
Overhead Triceps Extension 3 sets x 12-15
Triceps Pressdown 3 sets x 12-15 reps
Incline Bench Press 3 sets x 5-8 reps
Flat Dumbbell Press 3 sets x 8-10 reps
Cable Flyes 3 sets x 12-15 reps
Cable Lateral Raise 4 sets x 12-15 reps

Pull
Barbell Curl 3 sets x 8-10 reps
Bayesian Curls 3 sets x 12-15 reps
Bent Over Barbell Rows 3 sets x 5-8 reps
Wide Grip Lat Pulldown 3 sets x 8-12 reps
Cable Pullover 3 sets x 12-15 reps
Rear Delt Fly Machine 4 sets x 15-20 reps

Legs
Leg Extensions: 4 sets x 10-12 reps
Leg Curls: 3 sets x 10-12 reps
Leg Press: 3 sets x 8-10 reps
RDL dumbbell: 3 sets x 8-10 reps
Hip Thrusts 3 sets x 5-8 reps
Hip Abduction: 2 x 10
Standing Calf Raises: 4 sets x 12-15 reps

Workout 1: Upper Body A
Bench Press 3 sets x 5-8 reps [3 mins]
Wide Lat Pulldown 3 sets x 12-15 reps [2 mins]
Incline DB Press 3 sets x 8-12 reps [2 mins]
Seated Row 3 sets x 8-12 reps [2 mins]
Shoulder Press 3 sets x 12-15 reps [90s]
Incline Curl 3 sets x 8-12 reps [90s]
Triceps Pressdown 3 sets x 8-12 reps [90s]

Workout 2: Lower Body A
Hack Squat 3 sets x 5-8 reps [3-5 mins]
Romanian Deadlift 3 sets x 8-12 reps [2-3 mins]
Leg Extension 3 sets x 12-15 reps [90 seconds](stand up between sets)
Seated Leg Curl 3 sets x 8-12 reps [2 mins]
Standing Calf Raise 4 sets x 5-8 reps [2 mins]

Diet
I'm working on trying to have a more put together diet. I have the Macrofactor app and will try to follow its recommendations.

I've added in the photos that were requested and some blood work.

Okay I think that's everything.

@kingdaves95 Bros, you're looking really good on this. The legs, upper body A and lower body A are all looking good. And I like the diet that you put together.

 

[HarleyGuy]

Ok will do and I'll send a picture of the AI

Canadian APO! Nice!

 

[HarleyGuy]

Yes I have Aromasin on hand, and I did a program on Macrofactor. They have my macros to gain go from 171lbs to 178 in 12 weeks at:
2446 cals
175g protein
81g fat
252g carbs

Just by looking at this and with previous diets I'll likely do:
Breakfast - 6 whole eggs, cup of spinach, whole avacado
Protein shake - 3 scoops of whey protein isolate
Lunch and Dinner - white rice, mixed veggies or broccoli, boneless skinless chicken thighs or 80/20 ground beef
Late night snack - Frozen yogurt and blueberries

Not taking vitamin c currently, I put glutamate in my protein shakes, I take 2 Seed probiotics, 2 multivitamin gummies a day, and I add fibre 4 in my protein shakes.

Add 3 egg whites to your Breakfast and you'll at least be at 200g protein.

 

[ballin2504]

I posted last week and then the very next day I was sick as hell. But I'm just getting back to the messages and I was asked to do this, so here's my best attempt at an informative log.

Initially I wanted to do test and Primo, however I'm learning that my BF is too high for that and given how expensive Primo is I'm not going to waste my time with that.

I've always been a skinny kid until my early 20s when I blew up and got pretty fat. It took my years to drop the weight and now I'm at a place where gaining muscle mass seems to be difficult. I'm guessing that years of bad food food and no gym fucked up my hormones, I'm hoping this can give me an extra edge to achieve my goals.

Stats
30yr old
5" 10
171lbs
~20% BF (I'm not entirely sure, I'm using my galaxy watch for the measurements)

I'm going to be doing a 5x day a week PPL/UL program. I crafted it myself, so if you guys think I'm doing too little or too much volume let me know. After every upper workout I do about 30 minutes of incline walking. On my off days, Thursdays and Sundays, I'm going to try to do some cardio. Right now I'm just thinking about running to keep the stamina up.

Cycle - 12 weeks of Test E, starting at 100 mg and adding an additional 100mg a week until I experience negative sides and then I'll go back to the previous dose. I already have an AI on standby. I'm also thinking of adding in anavar and cardarine for the last 5 weeks of my cycle to deal with any bloating or water mass.

PCT - I have clomid, nolvadex and 10000 hcg. I've been advised that clomid and nolvadex are enough to return my body to normal but I have the hcg just in case.

Goals - for this year I want to gain at least 10-15 pounds of lean mass. I recognize that won't happen in one 12 week cycle. I don't know what I'll get in this cycle but I'll try my hardest anyway.

Concerns - I'm willing to roll with the sides of anything I do except for hair loss. That's the only thing I'm afraid of. Granted, my father is 64 and still has all his hair, I also have 4 brothers and they all have their hair as well. If you guys have any tips on how to prevent hair loss or what signs to look out for, please let me. I acknowledge that by doing this I'm risking it but I want to do it anyway.

Morning
Multivitamin
Omega 3
Vitamin D
Creatine
Ritalin

After Workout
Whey protein
Glutamate
Fibre 4

Before bed
Magnesium Complex
Ashawaganda

Push
Overhead Triceps Extension 3 sets x 12-15
Triceps Pressdown 3 sets x 12-15 reps
Incline Bench Press 3 sets x 5-8 reps
Flat Dumbbell Press 3 sets x 8-10 reps
Cable Flyes 3 sets x 12-15 reps
Cable Lateral Raise 4 sets x 12-15 reps

Pull
Barbell Curl 3 sets x 8-10 reps
Bayesian Curls 3 sets x 12-15 reps
Bent Over Barbell Rows 3 sets x 5-8 reps
Wide Grip Lat Pulldown 3 sets x 8-12 reps
Cable Pullover 3 sets x 12-15 reps
Rear Delt Fly Machine 4 sets x 15-20 reps

Legs
Leg Extensions: 4 sets x 10-12 reps
Leg Curls: 3 sets x 10-12 reps
Leg Press: 3 sets x 8-10 reps
RDL dumbbell: 3 sets x 8-10 reps
Hip Thrusts 3 sets x 5-8 reps
Hip Abduction: 2 x 10
Standing Calf Raises: 4 sets x 12-15 reps

Workout 1: Upper Body A
Bench Press 3 sets x 5-8 reps [3 mins]
Wide Lat Pulldown 3 sets x 12-15 reps [2 mins]
Incline DB Press 3 sets x 8-12 reps [2 mins]
Seated Row 3 sets x 8-12 reps [2 mins]
Shoulder Press 3 sets x 12-15 reps [90s]
Incline Curl 3 sets x 8-12 reps [90s]
Triceps Pressdown 3 sets x 8-12 reps [90s]

Workout 2: Lower Body A
Hack Squat 3 sets x 5-8 reps [3-5 mins]
Romanian Deadlift 3 sets x 8-12 reps [2-3 mins]
Leg Extension 3 sets x 12-15 reps [90 seconds](stand up between sets)
Seated Leg Curl 3 sets x 8-12 reps [2 mins]
Standing Calf Raise 4 sets x 5-8 reps [2 mins]

Diet
I'm working on trying to have a more put together diet. I have the Macrofactor app and will try to follow its recommendations.

I've added in the photos that were requested and some blood work.

Okay I think that's everything.

@kingdaves95 great start to the log man. We are glad to have you here logging on evo. Let’s push it

 

[ROIDDERS]

I posted last week and then the very next day I was sick as hell. But I'm just getting back to the messages and I was asked to do this, so here's my best attempt at an informative log.

Initially I wanted to do test and Primo, however I'm learning that my BF is too high for that and given how expensive Primo is I'm not going to waste my time with that.

I've always been a skinny kid until my early 20s when I blew up and got pretty fat. It took my years to drop the weight and now I'm at a place where gaining muscle mass seems to be difficult. I'm guessing that years of bad food food and no gym fucked up my hormones, I'm hoping this can give me an extra edge to achieve my goals.

Stats
30yr old
5" 10
171lbs
~20% BF (I'm not entirely sure, I'm using my galaxy watch for the measurements)

I'm going to be doing a 5x day a week PPL/UL program. I crafted it myself, so if you guys think I'm doing too little or too much volume let me know. After every upper workout I do about 30 minutes of incline walking. On my off days, Thursdays and Sundays, I'm going to try to do some cardio. Right now I'm just thinking about running to keep the stamina up.

Cycle - 12 weeks of Test E, starting at 100 mg and adding an additional 100mg a week until I experience negative sides and then I'll go back to the previous dose. I already have an AI on standby. I'm also thinking of adding in anavar and cardarine for the last 5 weeks of my cycle to deal with any bloating or water mass.

PCT - I have clomid, nolvadex and 10000 hcg. I've been advised that clomid and nolvadex are enough to return my body to normal but I have the hcg just in case.

Goals - for this year I want to gain at least 10-15 pounds of lean mass. I recognize that won't happen in one 12 week cycle. I don't know what I'll get in this cycle but I'll try my hardest anyway.

Concerns - I'm willing to roll with the sides of anything I do except for hair loss. That's the only thing I'm afraid of. Granted, my father is 64 and still has all his hair, I also have 4 brothers and they all have their hair as well. If you guys have any tips on how to prevent hair loss or what signs to look out for, please let me. I acknowledge that by doing this I'm risking it but I want to do it anyway.

Morning
Multivitamin
Omega 3
Vitamin D
Creatine
Ritalin

After Workout
Whey protein
Glutamate
Fibre 4

Before bed
Magnesium Complex
Ashawaganda

Push
Overhead Triceps Extension 3 sets x 12-15
Triceps Pressdown 3 sets x 12-15 reps
Incline Bench Press 3 sets x 5-8 reps
Flat Dumbbell Press 3 sets x 8-10 reps
Cable Flyes 3 sets x 12-15 reps
Cable Lateral Raise 4 sets x 12-15 reps

Pull
Barbell Curl 3 sets x 8-10 reps
Bayesian Curls 3 sets x 12-15 reps
Bent Over Barbell Rows 3 sets x 5-8 reps
Wide Grip Lat Pulldown 3 sets x 8-12 reps
Cable Pullover 3 sets x 12-15 reps
Rear Delt Fly Machine 4 sets x 15-20 reps

Legs
Leg Extensions: 4 sets x 10-12 reps
Leg Curls: 3 sets x 10-12 reps
Leg Press: 3 sets x 8-10 reps
RDL dumbbell: 3 sets x 8-10 reps
Hip Thrusts 3 sets x 5-8 reps
Hip Abduction: 2 x 10
Standing Calf Raises: 4 sets x 12-15 reps

Workout 1: Upper Body A
Bench Press 3 sets x 5-8 reps [3 mins]
Wide Lat Pulldown 3 sets x 12-15 reps [2 mins]
Incline DB Press 3 sets x 8-12 reps [2 mins]
Seated Row 3 sets x 8-12 reps [2 mins]
Shoulder Press 3 sets x 12-15 reps [90s]
Incline Curl 3 sets x 8-12 reps [90s]
Triceps Pressdown 3 sets x 8-12 reps [90s]

Workout 2: Lower Body A
Hack Squat 3 sets x 5-8 reps [3-5 mins]
Romanian Deadlift 3 sets x 8-12 reps [2-3 mins]
Leg Extension 3 sets x 12-15 reps [90 seconds](stand up between sets)
Seated Leg Curl 3 sets x 8-12 reps [2 mins]
Standing Calf Raise 4 sets x 5-8 reps [2 mins]

Diet
I'm working on trying to have a more put together diet. I have the Macrofactor app and will try to follow its recommendations.

I've added in the photos that were requested and some blood work.

Okay I think that's everything.

Heck of a job working your legs. Another option for you to mention it in another log as well as lunges, they really work good. You don't have to go heavy on your lunges as well. Walking lunges around the gym is very easy to do. @kingdaves95

 

[RoySimpson]

I posted last week and then the very next day I was sick as hell. But I'm just getting back to the messages and I was asked to do this, so here's my best attempt at an informative log.

Initially I wanted to do test and Primo, however I'm learning that my BF is too high for that and given how expensive Primo is I'm not going to waste my time with that.

I've always been a skinny kid until my early 20s when I blew up and got pretty fat. It took my years to drop the weight and now I'm at a place where gaining muscle mass seems to be difficult. I'm guessing that years of bad food food and no gym fucked up my hormones, I'm hoping this can give me an extra edge to achieve my goals.

Stats
30yr old
5" 10
171lbs
~20% BF (I'm not entirely sure, I'm using my galaxy watch for the measurements)

I'm going to be doing a 5x day a week PPL/UL program. I crafted it myself, so if you guys think I'm doing too little or too much volume let me know. After every upper workout I do about 30 minutes of incline walking. On my off days, Thursdays and Sundays, I'm going to try to do some cardio. Right now I'm just thinking about running to keep the stamina up.

Cycle - 12 weeks of Test E, starting at 100 mg and adding an additional 100mg a week until I experience negative sides and then I'll go back to the previous dose. I already have an AI on standby. I'm also thinking of adding in anavar and cardarine for the last 5 weeks of my cycle to deal with any bloating or water mass.

PCT - I have clomid, nolvadex and 10000 hcg. I've been advised that clomid and nolvadex are enough to return my body to normal but I have the hcg just in case.

Goals - for this year I want to gain at least 10-15 pounds of lean mass. I recognize that won't happen in one 12 week cycle. I don't know what I'll get in this cycle but I'll try my hardest anyway.

Concerns - I'm willing to roll with the sides of anything I do except for hair loss. That's the only thing I'm afraid of. Granted, my father is 64 and still has all his hair, I also have 4 brothers and they all have their hair as well. If you guys have any tips on how to prevent hair loss or what signs to look out for, please let me. I acknowledge that by doing this I'm risking it but I want to do it anyway.

Morning
Multivitamin
Omega 3
Vitamin D
Creatine
Ritalin

After Workout
Whey protein
Glutamate
Fibre 4

Before bed
Magnesium Complex
Ashawaganda

Push
Overhead Triceps Extension 3 sets x 12-15
Triceps Pressdown 3 sets x 12-15 reps
Incline Bench Press 3 sets x 5-8 reps
Flat Dumbbell Press 3 sets x 8-10 reps
Cable Flyes 3 sets x 12-15 reps
Cable Lateral Raise 4 sets x 12-15 reps

Pull
Barbell Curl 3 sets x 8-10 reps
Bayesian Curls 3 sets x 12-15 reps
Bent Over Barbell Rows 3 sets x 5-8 reps
Wide Grip Lat Pulldown 3 sets x 8-12 reps
Cable Pullover 3 sets x 12-15 reps
Rear Delt Fly Machine 4 sets x 15-20 reps

Legs
Leg Extensions: 4 sets x 10-12 reps
Leg Curls: 3 sets x 10-12 reps
Leg Press: 3 sets x 8-10 reps
RDL dumbbell: 3 sets x 8-10 reps
Hip Thrusts 3 sets x 5-8 reps
Hip Abduction: 2 x 10
Standing Calf Raises: 4 sets x 12-15 reps

Workout 1: Upper Body A
Bench Press 3 sets x 5-8 reps [3 mins]
Wide Lat Pulldown 3 sets x 12-15 reps [2 mins]
Incline DB Press 3 sets x 8-12 reps [2 mins]
Seated Row 3 sets x 8-12 reps [2 mins]
Shoulder Press 3 sets x 12-15 reps [90s]
Incline Curl 3 sets x 8-12 reps [90s]
Triceps Pressdown 3 sets x 8-12 reps [90s]

Workout 2: Lower Body A
Hack Squat 3 sets x 5-8 reps [3-5 mins]
Romanian Deadlift 3 sets x 8-12 reps [2-3 mins]
Leg Extension 3 sets x 12-15 reps [90 seconds](stand up between sets)
Seated Leg Curl 3 sets x 8-12 reps [2 mins]
Standing Calf Raise 4 sets x 5-8 reps [2 mins]

Diet
I'm working on trying to have a more put together diet. I have the Macrofactor app and will try to follow its recommendations.

I've added in the photos that were requested and some blood work.

Okay I think that's everything.

@kingdaves95 i will be following your journey for sure!

 

[LevButlerov]

Ok will do and I'll send a picture of the AI

where did you get this aromasin? @kingdaves95

 

[HarleyGuy]

where did you get this aromasin? @kingdaves95

It's either pharma grade APOTEX and is based in Canada or it's a knock off.

 

[LevButlerov]

It's either pharma grade APOTEX and is based in Canada or it's a knock off.

Interesting Id like to know where he got it.

 

[HarleyGuy]

Interesting Id like to know where he got it.

@kingdaves95

 

[Noah Wixx]

I posted last week and then the very next day I was sick as hell. But I'm just getting back to the messages and I was asked to do this, so here's my best attempt at an informative log.

Initially I wanted to do test and Primo, however I'm learning that my BF is too high for that and given how expensive Primo is I'm not going to waste my time with that.

I've always been a skinny kid until my early 20s when I blew up and got pretty fat. It took my years to drop the weight and now I'm at a place where gaining muscle mass seems to be difficult. I'm guessing that years of bad food food and no gym fucked up my hormones, I'm hoping this can give me an extra edge to achieve my goals.

Stats
30yr old
5" 10
171lbs
~20% BF (I'm not entirely sure, I'm using my galaxy watch for the measurements)

I'm going to be doing a 5x day a week PPL/UL program. I crafted it myself, so if you guys think I'm doing too little or too much volume let me know. After every upper workout I do about 30 minutes of incline walking. On my off days, Thursdays and Sundays, I'm going to try to do some cardio. Right now I'm just thinking about running to keep the stamina up.

Cycle - 12 weeks of Test E, starting at 100 mg and adding an additional 100mg a week until I experience negative sides and then I'll go back to the previous dose. I already have an AI on standby. I'm also thinking of adding in anavar and cardarine for the last 5 weeks of my cycle to deal with any bloating or water mass.

PCT - I have clomid, nolvadex and 10000 hcg. I've been advised that clomid and nolvadex are enough to return my body to normal but I have the hcg just in case.

Goals - for this year I want to gain at least 10-15 pounds of lean mass. I recognize that won't happen in one 12 week cycle. I don't know what I'll get in this cycle but I'll try my hardest anyway.

Concerns - I'm willing to roll with the sides of anything I do except for hair loss. That's the only thing I'm afraid of. Granted, my father is 64 and still has all his hair, I also have 4 brothers and they all have their hair as well. If you guys have any tips on how to prevent hair loss or what signs to look out for, please let me. I acknowledge that by doing this I'm risking it but I want to do it anyway.

Morning
Multivitamin
Omega 3
Vitamin D
Creatine
Ritalin

After Workout
Whey protein
Glutamate
Fibre 4

Before bed
Magnesium Complex
Ashawaganda

Push
Overhead Triceps Extension 3 sets x 12-15
Triceps Pressdown 3 sets x 12-15 reps
Incline Bench Press 3 sets x 5-8 reps
Flat Dumbbell Press 3 sets x 8-10 reps
Cable Flyes 3 sets x 12-15 reps
Cable Lateral Raise 4 sets x 12-15 reps

Pull
Barbell Curl 3 sets x 8-10 reps
Bayesian Curls 3 sets x 12-15 reps
Bent Over Barbell Rows 3 sets x 5-8 reps
Wide Grip Lat Pulldown 3 sets x 8-12 reps
Cable Pullover 3 sets x 12-15 reps
Rear Delt Fly Machine 4 sets x 15-20 reps

Legs
Leg Extensions: 4 sets x 10-12 reps
Leg Curls: 3 sets x 10-12 reps
Leg Press: 3 sets x 8-10 reps
RDL dumbbell: 3 sets x 8-10 reps
Hip Thrusts 3 sets x 5-8 reps
Hip Abduction: 2 x 10
Standing Calf Raises: 4 sets x 12-15 reps

Workout 1: Upper Body A
Bench Press 3 sets x 5-8 reps [3 mins]
Wide Lat Pulldown 3 sets x 12-15 reps [2 mins]
Incline DB Press 3 sets x 8-12 reps [2 mins]
Seated Row 3 sets x 8-12 reps [2 mins]
Shoulder Press 3 sets x 12-15 reps [90s]
Incline Curl 3 sets x 8-12 reps [90s]
Triceps Pressdown 3 sets x 8-12 reps [90s]

Workout 2: Lower Body A
Hack Squat 3 sets x 5-8 reps [3-5 mins]
Romanian Deadlift 3 sets x 8-12 reps [2-3 mins]
Leg Extension 3 sets x 12-15 reps [90 seconds](stand up between sets)
Seated Leg Curl 3 sets x 8-12 reps [2 mins]
Standing Calf Raise 4 sets x 5-8 reps [2 mins]

Diet
I'm working on trying to have a more put together diet. I have the Macrofactor app and will try to follow its recommendations.

I've added in the photos that were requested and some blood work.

Okay I think that's everything.

Well hopefully u are feeling better now

 

[kingdaves95]

where did you get this aromasin? @kingdaves95

I'm in Canada, I live in a small town an hour east of Toronto. I ordered it from Syn Pharma, I found them on this website actually.

 

[kingdaves95]

@kingdaves95

@SYNPharmaDist, I found them on this website in the Canadian section

 

[HarleyGuy]

@SYNPharmaDist, I found them on this website in the Canadian section

Interesting Id like to know where he got it.

@LevButlerov

 

[HarleyGuy]

@SYNPharmaDist, I found them on this website in the Canadian section

Aromasin is much better to have on hand or even run low dose concurrent with a cycle if dosing is high. You can email [email protected] or DM @Fusion Canada

 

[LevButlerov]

I'm in Canada, I live in a small town an hour east of Toronto. I ordered it from Syn Pharma, I found them on this website actually.

It should be good if you used it from syn when they were good

 

[LevButlerov]

I'm in Canada, I live in a small town an hour east of Toronto. I ordered it from Syn Pharma, I found them on this website actually.

can you start updating your nutrition and training? @kingdaves95

 

[Fusion Canada]

I run aromasin even with my trt. Doc said to give it a go and it did help a bit. I found anytie i ate sugar my nipples would pop a bit. So the aromasin stopped right away

 

[HarleyGuy]

I run aromasin even with my trt. Doc said to give it a go and it did help a bit. I found anytie i ate sugar my nipples would pop a bit. So the aromasin stopped right away

Agreed. Gone are the days of A-dex and especially letrozole!

 

[LevButlerov]

I run aromasin even with my trt. Doc said to give it a go and it did help a bit. I found anytie i ate sugar my nipples would pop a bit. So the aromasin stopped right away

aromasin works like magic and no rebount like arimidex @Fusion Canada

 

[Fusion Canada]

Or the dry joints like arimidex. Its whatever works best for each person. no wrong answer. i just find asin is better for me

 

[Simoneme]

aromasin works like magic and no rebount like arimidex @Fusion Canada

I agree. Ari to me crash ed. Aromasin Wonder!

 

[LevButlerov]

Or the dry joints like arimidex. Its whatever works best for each person. no wrong answer. i just find asin is better for me

yup arimidex dry joints need to add that to the list @Fusion Canada

 

[AVMetal_mulisha]

Hey all,

Any sources for Nebivolol. Looking to run last 6 weeks of cut as my sleeping heart rate now 75 and day to day HR 90/95.

 

[LevButlerov]

Hey all,

Any sources for Nebivolol. Looking to run last 6 weeks of cut as my sleeping heart rate now 75 and day to day HR 90/95.

This is not the place to ask this, @AVMetal_mulisha
please check our q4 approve suppliers AU
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/top-trusted-aussie-vendors-2025-q4.107247/