HGH and sleep

[tylerdurden999]

Hey fellas
I recently up my HGH dosage from 3iu to 4iu over a week ago
I always pin at night and I’ve noticed my sleep over the last week has been poor with shit deep sleep and waking up early early
Is 4iu in one hit at night to much ?

Cheers

 

[Alice_In_Ironland]

Without seeing any other data, and if GH is the only variable that’s changed, it might be related to increased cortisol levels in the AM and fluctuations in blood glucose levels. Do you track fasting glucose, know what your a1c is, and are you taking anything to control blood sugar levels (if indicated)?
I’m no expert, but that’s where I’d start

 

[s.gentz]

Hey fellas
I recently up my HGH dosage from 3iu to 4iu over a week ago
I always pin at night and I’ve noticed my sleep over the last week has been poor with shit deep sleep and waking up early early
Is 4iu in one hit at night to much ?

Cheers

Typically once I start getting over 2iu I will split the dose either once in the AM and once after training or after training and before bed depending on what my goals are at the time.
A little more background would be helpful.

 

[tylerdurden999]

Thanks for the replies
For what it’s worth oh have a feeling it definitely could be cortisol spiking earlier and ruining deep sleep
I went back to 3iu for the last 4 nights and sleep is back to normal.
I have no bloods to prove anything sorry but it definitely doesn’t feel like a placebo effect that’s for sure.

 

[LevButlerov]

Hey fellas
I recently up my HGH dosage from 3iu to 4iu over a week ago
I always pin at night and I’ve noticed my sleep over the last week has been poor with shit deep sleep and waking up early early
Is 4iu in one hit at night to much ?

Cheers

happy new year @tylerdurden999
That makes sense, 4iu in one night shot can spike cortisol and adrenaline in some people which kills deep sleep and causes early waking. If 3iu restores sleep that fast it’s not placebo, either stay at 3iu or split 4iu into 2iu pre bed and 2iu earlier in the day so GH stays high without wrecking sleep. I would drop down to 2 IUs pre bed and keep it there for now tbh

Thanks for the replies
For what it’s worth oh have a feeling it definitely could be cortisol spiking earlier and ruining deep sleep
I went back to 3iu for the last 4 nights and sleep is back to normal.
I have no bloods to prove anything sorry but it definitely doesn’t feel like a placebo effect that’s for sure.

and @tylerdurden999 I asked you to start a log here
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...ery-protocol-with-hcg-hmg.106749/post-1891816

can you start a log for the EVO family? this will help you a lot. 15min of your time to get it up.

HOW-TO LOG?

Why is a Log Journal important?

• Doing a log will actually help you way more than just dropping random updates. When you lay it all out week by week you start to see patterns in your body that you won’t catch otherwise.
• Other guys here run logs all the time and there’s no privacy issue, nobody is asking for your name or anything personal, it is just training, diet, and how the compound feels.
• The feedback you get is also way better because people can follow along and spot things you might miss. It also helps the next guy who is thinking about running the same compound so you are giving back while you learn.
• Even if you think you might not stick with it, just starting the log makes it easier to come back and add quick notes. That way you get more out of what you are running instead of keeping it all in your head.

To really guide you we need more info from you:

• Please share your diet, training, cardio, sleep, supplements etc log with us in a NEW thread, full log journal so our guidance is based on facts you provide.
• It will take 15-20 minutes max.
• We have 100s of years of experience between us, so you need to post a LOG Journal with your stats (weight,height,age, years training, cycle history) diet, training, cardio, supplement, sleep details. If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.
• Please post a Log Journal asap for us

Please click the anabolic forum
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/forums/anabolic-steroids-and-peds.2/
top RIGHT, you see: +POST THREAD
click that

in Title: write your cycle name, like> My _____ Cycle Log
___ = the name of your log
example: My training cycle Log
in body: write your planned cycle or cycle you doing now, your diet, training and we will help you along on your cycle

here are examples of LOG Journals
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/first-testosterone-cycle-log.104133/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/sustanon-trenomast-deca-dbol-cycle-journal.105881/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-2025-26-growth-phase-log-with-psl.106514/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...var-bpc157-beligas-pharmaqo-cycle-log.104843/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...g-log-sponsored-by-purity-source-labs.103669/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...erone-cycle-and-beginner-training-log.106310/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/average-trt-back-to-savage-cycle-journal.106252
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...-testosterone-masteron-primobolan-deca.105348
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...odybuilding-log-masters-55-competitor.102611/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...ron-npp-tren-anadrol-log-to-stage-2025.102590

 

[Mobster]

Lower the dose and see. Few need much beyond 2.5ius a day

 

[R.AP]

Hey fellas
I recently up my HGH dosage from 3iu to 4iu over a week ago
I always pin at night and I’ve noticed my sleep over the last week has been poor with shit deep sleep and waking up early early
Is 4iu in one hit at night to much ?

Cheers

You should generally see an improvement in sleep quality with an increased GH dose. @Alice_In_Ironland was asking about other variables; did anything else change? What were you doing within the hours leading up to bed?

What is your physique goal at the moment?

 

[stevesmi]

Hey fellas
I recently up my HGH dosage from 3iu to 4iu over a week ago
I always pin at night and I’ve noticed my sleep over the last week has been poor with shit deep sleep and waking up early early
Is 4iu in one hit at night to much ?

Cheers

could be a rise in water retention being counter productive

 

[Ulter]

Hey fellas
I recently up my HGH dosage from 3iu to 4iu over a week ago
I always pin at night and I’ve noticed my sleep over the last week has been poor with shit deep sleep and waking up early early
Is 4iu in one hit at night to much ?

Cheers

experiment around with the dosage and see how you react, then go from there.

 

[ceo]

Hey fellas
I recently up my HGH dosage from 3iu to 4iu over a week ago
I always pin at night and I’ve noticed my sleep over the last week has been poor with shit deep sleep and waking up early early
Is 4iu in one hit at night to much ?

Cheers

Bros, that's weird. Usually, HGH makes people sleep better. I think you should lower the dose and then see what happens.

 

[tylerdurden999]

Thanks for the feedback
Nothing changed in the slightest in diet / sleep life ect except literally gong from 3iu to 4iu
First time ever GH run
Currently using it to supplement 125mg/week Trt
The reason for HGH was for longevity health and hold onto some youth
I’ve been doing Mining work for over 10years physical labour now with 12hr night shifts involved and I can genuinely feel the ageing process kicking into gear quicker with night shifts.
Open to Any advice on splitting the does 2iu am and 2iu pm I just don’t want to feel tired during the day that’s all ?
3iu still feel good at night but I wonder if it’s actually at the higher end of a shot before bed still

 

[ballin2504]

I’d split the dosages personally it makes me sleep better

 

[LevButlerov]

Thanks for the feedback
Nothing changed in the slightest in diet / sleep life ect except literally gong from 3iu to 4iu
First time ever GH run
Currently using it to supplement 125mg/week Trt
The reason for HGH was for longevity health and hold onto some youth
I’ve been doing Mining work for over 10years physical labour now with 12hr night shifts involved and I can genuinely feel the ageing process kicking into gear quicker with night shifts.
Open to Any advice on splitting the does 2iu am and 2iu pm I just don’t want to feel tired during the day that’s all ?
3iu still feel good at night but I wonder if it’s actually at the higher end of a shot before bed still

asked you to start a log, still not seeing it, please do @tylerdurden999
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/hgh-and-sleep.108451/post-1936064

happy new year @tylerdurden999
That makes sense, 4iu in one night shot can spike cortisol and adrenaline in some people which kills deep sleep and causes early waking. If 3iu restores sleep that fast it’s not placebo, either stay at 3iu or split 4iu into 2iu pre bed and 2iu earlier in the day so GH stays high without wrecking sleep. I would drop down to 2 IUs pre bed and keep it there for now tbh

and @tylerdurden999 I asked you to start a log here
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...ery-protocol-with-hcg-hmg.106749/post-1891816

can you start a log for the EVO family? this will help you a lot. 15min of your time to get it up.

HOW-TO LOG?

Why is a Log Journal important?

• Doing a log will actually help you way more than just dropping random updates. When you lay it all out week by week you start to see patterns in your body that you won’t catch otherwise.
• Other guys here run logs all the time and there’s no privacy issue, nobody is asking for your name or anything personal, it is just training, diet, and how the compound feels.
• The feedback you get is also way better because people can follow along and spot things you might miss. It also helps the next guy who is thinking about running the same compound so you are giving back while you learn.
• Even if you think you might not stick with it, just starting the log makes it easier to come back and add quick notes. That way you get more out of what you are running instead of keeping it all in your head.

To really guide you we need more info from you:

• Please share your diet, training, cardio, sleep, supplements etc log with us in a NEW thread, full log journal so our guidance is based on facts you provide.
• It will take 15-20 minutes max.
• We have 100s of years of experience between us, so you need to post a LOG Journal with your stats (weight,height,age, years training, cycle history) diet, training, cardio, supplement, sleep details. If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.
• Please post a Log Journal asap for us

Please click the anabolic forum
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/forums/anabolic-steroids-and-peds.2/
top RIGHT, you see: +POST THREAD
click that

in Title: write your cycle name, like> My _____ Cycle Log
___ = the name of your log
example: My training cycle Log
in body: write your planned cycle or cycle you doing now, your diet, training and we will help you along on your cycle

here are examples of LOG Journals
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/first-testosterone-cycle-log.104133/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/sustanon-trenomast-deca-dbol-cycle-journal.105881/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-2025-26-growth-phase-log-with-psl.106514/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...var-bpc157-beligas-pharmaqo-cycle-log.104843/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...g-log-sponsored-by-purity-source-labs.103669/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...erone-cycle-and-beginner-training-log.106310/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/average-trt-back-to-savage-cycle-journal.106252
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...-testosterone-masteron-primobolan-deca.105348
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...odybuilding-log-masters-55-competitor.102611/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...ron-npp-tren-anadrol-log-to-stage-2025.102590

 

[2Thick]

Hey fellas
I recently up my HGH dosage from 3iu to 4iu over a week ago
I always pin at night and I’ve noticed my sleep over the last week has been poor with shit deep sleep and waking up early early
Is 4iu in one hit at night to much ?

Cheers

Thanks for the feedback
Nothing changed in the slightest in diet / sleep life ect except literally gong from 3iu to 4iu
First time ever GH run
Currently using it to supplement 125mg/week Trt
The reason for HGH was for longevity health and hold onto some youth
I’ve been doing Mining work for over 10years physical labour now with 12hr night shifts involved and I can genuinely feel the ageing process kicking into gear quicker with night shifts.
Open to Any advice on splitting the does 2iu am and 2iu pm I just don’t want to feel tired during the day that’s all ?
3iu still feel good at night but I wonder if it’s actually at the higher end of a shot before bed still

could be something else happening entirely. It's really hard to say man. It would really help if you put up a log.

 

[ROIDDERS]

Hey fellas
I recently up my HGH dosage from 3iu to 4iu over a week ago
I always pin at night and I’ve noticed my sleep over the last week has been poor with shit deep sleep and waking up early early
Is 4iu in one hit at night to much ?

Cheers

I have a sneaky suspicion something else might be going on here or you're having just a really bad reaction.

 

[tylerdurden999]

I have a sneaky suspicion something else might be going on here or you're having just a really bad reaction.

What’s the sneaky suspicion theory?
Getting bloods drawn next week

 

[Dreamer]

GH is a tricky compound for me too, I get a lot of water retention from it when my dose is too high, and especially if I increase it too quick, my advice would be start low and hold there for a couple of weeks say 2iu, then titrate to 3, 4 etc, to be honest for your goals, 2 iu will still do a fair bit, it isnt a loud, noticeable compound, it works quietly in the background if done right

 

[Tiger Salman Khan]

you can consider splitting the doses.....

 

[Alice_In_Ironland]

It’s good that you’re getting bloods done.
It’s all just speculation without them since there’s A LOT of factors as play.

I’m neither a coach nor a expect, but to my knowledge poor sleep, inflammation/ CNS fatigue, and high cortisol can create a bit of viscous cycle - as in they all continue to contribute to each other worsening.
Cortisol, glucagon, adrenaline, and growth hormone naturally rise at around 3-8am… the high stress (cortisol, inflammation) can trigger the liver to keep releasing more glucose… this can sometimes wake people up. Higher levels of HGH can also contribute to this.

 

[ROIDDERS]

What’s the sneaky suspicion theory?
Getting bloods drawn next week

I don't know, man. That's the thing. It can be very tricky. It could be something else that is throwing something else off. That's why it's important to monitor it going forward.

 

[Noah Wixx]

Hey fellas
I recently up my HGH dosage from 3iu to 4iu over a week ago
I always pin at night and I’ve noticed my sleep over the last week has been poor with shit deep sleep and waking up early early
Is 4iu in one hit at night to much ?

Cheers

Typically 2iu does the trick for me so i haven't pushed it yet

 

[Allupfromhere]

Thanks for the feedback
Nothing changed in the slightest in diet / sleep life ect except literally gong from 3iu to 4iu
First time ever GH run
Currently using it to supplement 125mg/week Trt
The reason for HGH was for longevity health and hold onto some youth
I’ve been doing Mining work for over 10years physical labour now with 12hr night shifts involved and I can genuinely feel the ageing process kicking into gear quicker with night shifts.
Open to Any advice on splitting the does 2iu am and 2iu pm I just don’t want to feel tired during the day that’s all ?
3iu still feel good at night but I wonder if it’s actually at the higher end of a shot before bed still

With trt at that dose and your goals for gh. You honestly dont need more then 2-3iu anyway as a general heal an therapeutic replacement dose.