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Want to hop back on Tren but just for my fertility back. I do have a kid already so the cause of my infertility was due to steroid use. Will taking enclo keep me fertile while running Test E, Tren ace, and I am going to throw one oral in this cycle as well.
Nothing you take will
stop infertility from Peds.So being on enclo won’t help preserve my fertility
If infertility is that important just leave the tren out
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welcome back to the EVO family! @Thecoolgymbro209 we told you this before, we can’t tell you if tren will help or hurt fertility because we know nothing about your full history bloods time on gear or current labs so anything said now would just be guessing. Start a proper log with cycle history doses bloodwork fertility markers and goals so the EVO family can actually assess this and give you real guidance instead of assumptions. 15min of your time.
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https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/average-trt-back-to-savage-cycle-journal.106252
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...-testosterone-masteron-primobolan-deca.105348
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Definitely agree with this, not worth it
Would something like NPP shut me down too or would I have better chance staying fertile I also keep caber and AI in hand
Yes. Honestly if fertility is a priority, no AAS is the way.
If you want to have the best shot HMG and HCG are the best add ons, but even then, sitting at a low dose of test is enough to shut you down generally let alone steroids.
You then also have to wonder about sperm quality and dna frag if you were to conceive
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check my post please @Thecoolgymbro209 you're not seeing it? we are giving you blind advice without a log
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/thoughts-answers-on-tren.108320/post-1925261
and other reading material
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...tle-operation-baby-cypher-baby-bottle.105563/
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This is the same user @Thecoolgymbro209 that wanted to use DNA I believe @Dreamer, we need to have him do a log before any further help.
If you are concerned about fertility than blast hgh and Enclomiphene
come on man, if that was true, nobody would need TRT for life, and nobody would be so infertile. The fertility rates are dropping like a rock as it is.
If you want to boost fertility, your best bet is to not use any type of hormone. Let your body come back strong.
Bros, Clomid does help for fertility, but it's best to come off all gear. You should go get fertility tests.
All the aas will kill ur fertility. Jst in some rare case where people seen making there partner conceive were initially phase of aas use.
but enclo wont help keep fertility while on cycle is what I’m asking
Not gonna happen
Tren and fertility is not a mix. Testosterone also shuts you down hard. That is why people on long-term TRT have no sperm.
You need to come off all hormones and get on Clomid and natural testosterone boosters. That's going to be your best bet and get your fertility numbers tested frequently.
19nors like tren and deca etc will ruin your fertility.. stay on a TRT dose of testosterone and add in HCG and HMG.
You can still get fertility back even while on TRT - I have done it.
Took me 4 months roughly - added the results in below from my last sperm test, before this it was practically non-existent.
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Key point was Cypher had ZERO showing previously and was EXTREMELY lucky in regaining fertility.
We've done shows on fertility both societal and among PED users: https://www.evolutionary.org/podcasts/
We've done shows on fertility both societal and among PED users: https://www.evolutionary.org/podcasts/
Bros, you should get fertility tested again and see what kind of direction the trend is going.
So I want to cut and I didn’t plan on Tren till maybe March anyways but what if I use Ostarine and clomid will this shut me back down like I said I just got my fertility back and been off gear of any type since October 15th. Feel like shit in the gym slowly losing abs so I wanna use a cutting compound, I was thinking winstrol but I want to avoid losing fertility until I conceive so would Ostarine and clomid be a better choice?
Calories are the best cutting compound. I know plenty of people who look shredded beyond belief running test mast and gh no tren no winnie etc. Just calorie control
Bros, okay, that's a good one to keep an eye on and see if it gets better or worse.
