Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below Hey fellas, recently got some bloods done, I was meant to do it pre-cycle but got a week ahead of myself whilst I was waiting for test. Jumped on UGLoz var 20mg a day for a week prior to my bloods. Got my bloods back at a high level of AST & ALT. Anyone had issues before with this var?
UGLOZ Anavar & Bloodwork
That’s very high liver values for only 20mg of Anavar.
I’m not familiar with the lab, but sure it wasn’t Winny? That or you’re liver is a bit sensitive compared to most.
I’ve used 20mg of legit prescription compounded Anavar and would get ALT and AST of much less than half of that.
ALT and AST can also be elevated if you’re taking any meds/drugs, drinking alcohol and heavy exercise too. So it’s likely to be either of those too.
It is reversible. It's exactly what 17 alpha alkylated oral steroids do in order to survive the first pass at the liver. It will increase liver enzymes and be generally reflected in your ALT and AST values.
TUDCA and NAC or Chiken Feed from @HybridLabs will keep your liver healthier whilst on orals (also has quality VAR too)
It was their Sparta Anavar which is their in house stuff as far as I’m aware. Yeah I wasn’t too sure if it was legit var or if I’ve been stitched up with something else. Yeah I’ve used Var before as well but my bloods weren’t nearly as bad as they are this time.
It’s a local source in Australia.Whos ugloz? Never heard of them before...
Bro you can get some good anavar from the vendors on evolutionary.org
Thanks mate, I’ll take a break for a bit on the orals whilst I blast. Currently taking TUDCA and NAC as well as Milk thistle for the liver
that AJ donkey haha bro UGLOZ was top vendor at one stage but same shit get to greedy and lack on qualityWhos ugloz? Never heard of them before...
Bro you can get some good anavar from the vendors on evolutionary.org
all china manufactured gear lol
Nah I don’t drink heavily at all, usually don’t drink when I’m training either but a couple beers for the odd birthday celebrations but drive normally so not much more.
The ugl oz website has been siezed now and need new source
Works fine .. looking at it right now.
Switching wifi to cell data may fix it or use a VPN.
I can’t see it either
It works for me
UGL Oz is legit, and most well known vendor
Really strange I am blocked on both phone and computer. It’s says the website is blocked by the Australian government
Did you switch to mobile data?
Or try vpn
Yeh I switched to mobile data. It’s a bit spooky I don’t like it. Ordered last week too
Yeh mate I ordered last week got it Monday. Last night the website went bad and haven’t been able to get on since.
TGA has blocked it.
You'll need to use a VPN until a work around has been made unfortunately.
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Working fine for me
Being updatedUGL talk not working this morning
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Thank God for that, was missing my daily popeye updates
Have you spoken to Aj?
UGL talk not working this morning
Yeah was about to say mine not working ether
Spoken to admins, just be patient
It works fine for me, and I just received my order on Friday!
Do you think taking the var sublingual helps the liver?!
Theoretically it should as you would bypass the first pass at the liver and hence reduce liver stress. But you will also be shortening the half life as well as the time it take to enter your bloodstream. I've been doing 10mg sublingually a few times a week 30mins pre-workout. I'll get some bloods done to see how it has affected my liver enzymes to confirm if this theory actually works in practice for me.
Keep us posted mate, thanks for your prompt response
I doubt what your taking is actually anavar. Noway in hell will legit 20mg anavar do that to you.
UGLOZ is a wcam artist, every time he starts scamming people his websites either go down or apparently someone else has taken over it.
Bin what ever you have its not anavar.
UGLOZ is a wcam artist, every time he starts scamming people his websites either go down or apparently someone else has taken over it.
Bin what ever you have its not anavar.
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Not the first time something is sold and labeled as something else .
Aj packed up and left months ago .
What ever is being sold now by the people over in the chat site is just the dregs of what ever is left over .
Stick to verified sources .
Stay away from people who sell illicit drugs .
Aj packed up and left months ago .
What ever is being sold now by the people over in the chat site is just the dregs of what ever is left over .
Stick to verified sources .
Stay away from people who sell illicit drugs .
UGLOZ or evolutionary.org? UGLOZ is working but the forum (evolutionary.org) seems to be down (Account Suspended). Any news if it will come back online?
I was taking Sparta Anavar from UGLOZ and it was amazing. I just restarted very recently (~2 weeks ago), I saw this post but I wasn't worried because Aj is a legend and I fully trust their products (everything I had from them was top). But if Aj is not around anymore (is this a fact?), then I might have to reevaluate.
With all due respect brother, I've seen your log and would wager whoever is your source isn't suspending hormone in your oils.
Not working for me either
Its down down for a couple days for background maintenance boys it will be backNot working for me either
Has anyone actually heard from AJ in the past 3 to 4 months? I havent seen anything from him anywhere. I find it sus as no one has heard from him since the ausjuice and auspharmacy exit scams happened
It astounds me how you continue to speak with such confidence while you let literal shit spill out of your mouth.
AJ is still present and ugloz is still pumping out orders.
The worst part, he never did wrong by you and here you are talking shit like a proper dog.
He’s alive and well
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He’s been gone for 3 or 4 months now bro.
He packs up and leaves every few years . He will be back . Give it a year or so.
I don’t know what’s going on over on the site claiming to represent him though.
I’ll get personal attacks over this comment .
Fact is , the attacks personal and never actually addressing my claims ?
Why do the members of that chat group never comment over here except to defend there little racket ?
Be careful .
Just remember those people are an unverified source . You’re not dealing with aj over there .
You’re dealing with bottom feeding vultures who are preying on the unsuspecting.
Ask for a current hplc test on any of there product . I bet they show you one from February, how many batches have been made since February?
This forum is full of current and verifiable sources , why would you go to a source with a big question mark hanging over head ?
Hahahhaa cunt please
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No . Aj never did bad by me . Your right.
It’s the goons that dox people and make threats of rape towards peoples family that he allowed to remain in charge of that chat group that did wrong by me .
And not once have I spoken Ill of him.
I speak of the members over there who act like it’s some weird cult .
Step away for a bit and look back . You’ll see what I mean.
Why is it when I mention everything wrong with what you guys do over there , you turn it around and make out as if aj is the holy messiah and I have spoken his name in vain ?
No one mentioned aj .
All I said is he’s gone for now .
He’s not even in Australia. You know ……….. you don’t have to post it , but think honestly to your self .
Be Carefull who you give your loyalty to.
This is not family . Vendors move on . They come and go .
Learn to brew . Fuck them all .
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As usual he’s gone on extended holiday .
He does this every couple of years. .
This time his chat group was hijacked by some opportunists though.
Plenty other trustworthy vendors .
Ones that don’t sell over dosed Valium .
You should go for an extended holiday, you are human garbage. Ignore this guy and his baseless claims, he's dirt just like his name
so let me just get this straight, these are your claims.
- AJ is gone
- ugloz chat group is hijacked
- ugloz is no longer being ran by AJ but his “goons” and they are selling overdosed Valium ?
You also don’t believe you’ve spoken badly about AJ or tried to tarnish his rep at all?
You are truly fucking deluded.
You are correct in one thing, AJ is not a verified source on this forum. But everything else you’ve said is utter garbage.
Just crawl back to your fucking hole Tigar. I always kept my mouth shut with you but I can’t stand to see you try to continue to ruin someone’s rep that never did anything bad by you. It’s putrid, much like yourself
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Let’s be respectful with one another please .
I think I know who this is and we’ve always been respectful to one another . You’re not actually addressing my claims are you ?
This guy asking about his anavar has been brushed aside in favour of personal attacks against me .
I know of others who received bunk gear .
You guys claim to be Mates with Dino , why did you rip him for nearly $1000 .
Why won’t you address the fact he was taking 200 mg a day of anadrol and felt absolutely nothing ?
What did you guys sell him ? Creatine ?
When was the last time you spoke to aj ?
Cmon mate . Be better .
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One more thing , when you opened the first og chat group , you know for a fact that aj didn’t approve of it . You know for a fact all the underhanded shit that goes on was done without his approval. You know for a fact that in that group decisions are made on behalf of aj that he might not agree with .
I've been using @SILVERBACK LABS anavar for the last 5 weeks just got bloods done and they are nothing like that only slight elevation my bloods are posted on my log
In all fairness you can’t really compare your elevations with his. I for instance can run anadrol for over 10 weeks at 50mg every day and still pull 60-70’s for my markers.
It’s very individual
Yer I agree but those numbers for anavar are unusual
I doubt it was from the oral compound at all given it was only a weeks duration. There’s more things at play here.
Makes sense
shut the fuck up you little donkey what happen you didnt even show up to your spot.. little wank stain
standard opsec if you run a bigger business
To disappear as soon as ausjuice exit scams?
It's not like ausjuice and auspharmacy got raided and AJ needed to disappear. They exit scammed.
He didn't disappear, he was around and active yesterday
He is running quite an operation, not a small single person lab like most guys
Site looks to be good to go again.
UGL oz site is working again. Check out the rest of the comments to this thread. The boys are talking all kind of trash. Hard to work out who is right or wrong lol.
It's only one member talking nonsense who has been banned from multiple other forums for similar behaviour.
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How dare you question the cult .
Contemplate this on the tree of woe
I’m only 2 weeks into my cycle, pumping TUDCA & NAC will update in 4 weeks to see if my levels drop if not my livers fucked from something else. Haven’t had bloods done in a year so anything could’ve happened in the years time. Just seems weird to have super elevated levels only thing that’s changed in my diet was the var.
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Liver self heals . You don’t do something over a year . It would have healed . Throw the anavar away , it’s probably stanazol or something else .
Ayo
I was taking 10mg Var sublingually for about 6 weeks and my Liver Enzymes were heightened quite a bit. Got a little worried because from everything I had read and heard, taking Var under the tongue is supposed to reduce or stop this sort of increase. Went off the Var for 2 weeks and got my bloods done again and they were back under the reference range. Was taking all of the liver supplements you should be etc while running it and when not. I think it is definitely a case by case basis. The studies that were published regarding Var mention increases in these levels but state that the levels being raised are acute and drop once the treatment is stopped with no permanent damage i.e decrease in liver size or function.
Var was brought from a reputable vendor here on the Oz section.
Personally, with what I know now, I am going to blast 20mg a day on training days and 10mg on rest days for 6-8 weeks and then come off for 2-3 weeks rather than just running the 10mg for longer times.
Levels when raised
AST 62
ALT 188
2 weeks later
AST 32
ALT 39
I was taking 10mg Var sublingually for about 6 weeks and my Liver Enzymes were heightened quite a bit. Got a little worried because from everything I had read and heard, taking Var under the tongue is supposed to reduce or stop this sort of increase. Went off the Var for 2 weeks and got my bloods done again and they were back under the reference range. Was taking all of the liver supplements you should be etc while running it and when not. I think it is definitely a case by case basis. The studies that were published regarding Var mention increases in these levels but state that the levels being raised are acute and drop once the treatment is stopped with no permanent damage i.e decrease in liver size or function.
Var was brought from a reputable vendor here on the Oz section.
Personally, with what I know now, I am going to blast 20mg a day on training days and 10mg on rest days for 6-8 weeks and then come off for 2-3 weeks rather than just running the 10mg for longer times.
Levels when raised
AST 62
ALT 188
2 weeks later
AST 32
ALT 39
They ain't a vendor/seller on this forum. You should bring it up with them
Will depend how well you absorb sublingually. There will be individual differences. Some people would be actually ingesting it thinking it was sublingual but they actually swallowed it with their saliva instead.
Furthermore, sublingual theoretically skips the first pass at the liver, but it will still go thru the liver at the second pass. The main benefit to sublingual is getting the compound into your bloodstream quicker and shortening the half life.
Lastly, everyone’s liver response it slightly different anyway. Some people can tolerate high doses without much increase in liver values whilst others are more sensitive from the get go.
Regardless, your values will always come down with time off the compounds. As long as you have an otherwise healthy liver, just keep in mind the duration of exposure and know when to give it a rest.
@Nuubgainz who was the source for your Var btw?
Huh?
Yeah for sure, it varies from person to person and the only way to know is to use it and get bloods done. Think I am a little sensitive to it. Generally pretty sensitive to any form of meds or compounds.
Brought from Hybrid.
You didn't mention the vendor. But you should bring these sort of concerns with the Vendor first
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Nice work bro, keep a record of your blood test results and note the compounds and dosages you were on and you'll notice a trend that will help you design the best cycle suited to your physiology
I was adding to the original point of this post which was concern over an increase in liver enzymes.
Cheers, brother@HybridLabs is gtg
Nice work bro, keep a record of your blood test results and note the compounds and dosages you were on and you'll notice a trend that will help you design the best cycle suited to your physiology
Yeah I have quite a nice collection of data from tests the past 4 months or so. integral to have when messing with these things.
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Honestly , I think people over do it with data .
Just do like the song form the kfc ad
The general consensus seems to be that people don't have a enough. Either or, I enjoy knowing what the fuck is going on regarding manipulating hormones
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General consensus are sheepThe general consensus seems to be that people don't have an enough. Either or, I enjoy knowing what the fuck is going on regarding manipulating hormones
Shit, I wonder if that is why my markers were also slightly higher. I don't think I'd had a day off in like 6 or 7 weeks.
Makes sense especially if trained day prior or of, blood test
I didn't read the fine print and went to the gym before a blood test. Didn't make much difference really. The cumulative effect though, I never thought of that in regards to some levels being raised. Good to know.
Plenty of awesome.vendors here a few of the boys can vouch for @BigBoyLabs anavar
