TESTOSTERONE CREAM (LIPOSOMAL) 20%

[DSA35]

Hello

I'm a 40 years old male, standing at 1.75 m, 75 kg, around 23% bodyfat.

Looking to boost my testosterone levels with a further expectation of loosing some fat especially around my belly area and gain some mucle mass.

I was suggested to try a testosterone cream (liposomal) 20%.

Two pumps per day splitting in one pump in the morning and one pump in the evening. I was advised to apply the cream at forearm area where skin is thinner for better absorption.

My testosterone levels at my last bloodwork was 326 ng/dl. I was told to expect levels of 800 ng/dl with that cream.

My question is simple: Do these creams work or they are a waste of time and money?

 

[Npcclassicphysique champ]

Hello

I'm a 40 years old male, standing at 1.75 m, 75 kg, around 23% bodyfat.

Looking to boost my testosterone levels with a further expectation of loosing some fat especially around my belly area and gain some mucle mass.

I was suggested to try a testosterone cream (liposomal) 20%.

Two pumps per day splitting in one pump in the morning and one pump in the evening. I was advised to apply the cream at forearm area where skin is thinner for better absorption.

My testosterone levels at my last bloodwork was 326 ng/dl. I was told to expect levels of 800 ng/dl with that cream.

My question is simple: Do these creams work or they are a waste of time and money?

@DSA35 welcome to the EVO family bro

happy to see you sharing and openly discussing a way to change your life. Your question is interesting but vague, do creams work? well depends for who and for what purpose. I'm not sure if they would work for you bro, why? well we dont know anything about you except your age really. we need to know more about you to really guide you and help you, including seeing your full blood work (blur personal info).
how do we do that?
you need to start a new thread with your current lifestyle log journal DIet training cardio sleep history and more and we can analyze as a community and help guide you into TRT or creams or another path bro but we would neeed to do it with way more info
a log takes 15min of your time and easy to do

HOW-TO LOG?

• To really guide you we need more info from you.
• Please share your diet, training, cardio, sleep, supplements etc log with us in a NEW thread, full log journal so our guidance is based on facts you provide.
• It will take 15-20 minutes max.
• We have 100s of years of experience between us, so you need to post a LOG Journal with your stats (weight,height,age, years training, cycle history) diet, training, cardio, supplement, sleep details. If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.

Please post a Log Journal asap for us

Please click the anabolic forum
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/forums/anabolic-steroids-and-peds.2/
top RIGHT, you see: +POST THREAD
click that

in Title: write your cycle name, like> My _____ Cycle Log
___ = the name of your log
example: My Training Nutrition Log
in body: write your planned cycle or cycle you doing now, your diet, training and we will help you along on your cycle

here are examples of LOG Journals

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https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...n-season-sponsored-by-nordic-fusion-log.89817
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-contest-prep-log.87619/

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[PrinceDaddy]

I personally have not used creams. In my TRT discussions. everyone basically said don't be afraid of the injections. Its effective it works and it gets the job done.

I have heard the creams work, but if you have children, pets, or spouse you may expose them thru touch clothes, towels ,etc.

 

[Mobster]

You'll boost it IF you get leaner. Not get leaner if it's boosted. If that was true ALL TRT users would be leaner.

 

[stevesmi]

it would be like injecting vitamins vs. ingesting them. far more effective to inject

 

[Quadsweep]

they work somewhat. but injectables are much better options.
you can go to ugfreak.to and take advantage of sales and do it.

 

[BodyMonster34]

bro creams are not for the real men.

pin that shit and man up!

 

[JasonPriest]

eventually you will need to do the injections, might as well start now.

plus its easier just to pin once a week vs. worrying about the creams daily. use domestic supply

 

[Wootoom]

I actually did the creams the first couple years because my wife didn't want needles in the house at the time. but it's a huge hassle in some days you just forget to apply it

 

[Vadim Fedorov]

injections of course are going to be much more absorbable

I would go with that.

 

[2Thick]

you should definitely get a log Journal going.
you can start out with the creams and see how it does for you and if you're not happy with it you can always switch in the future.

 

[e2]

yes a log would be cool here.

we haven't had anyone log the cream therapy in a while

 

[StevenDarwinMD]

LOG APPROVED - PLEASE POST A LOG

 

[Ulter]

get your log going I'm really excited for it.

and you want to make sure you also clean up your diet.

 

[chesty]

just boosting testosterone levels is not going to cut your body fat that's a huge myth. you gotta do everything including cardio .training .and all so cleaning up your diet.

 

[ROIDDERS]

log Journal will be crucial for you.

it will help us get the most out of your cycle.

 

[ceo]

bros the creams are sort of a waste if you ask me.
i would just do the pin.

 

[ballin2504]

You will have to get your diet and cardio in check

 

[25homes]

Get diet right

 

[DSA35]

Update: I've decided to give testosterone cream a chance.
After 15 days of application, at 2 pumps per day (each pump delivers 0,5 gr of cream containing 100mg of testosterone), labs were amazing:
ΤESTOSTERONE AT 1496 ng/dL
I'm going to reduce the dose at 1 pump per day, since I'm aiming at levels around 800 ng/dL.
Despite that, in my daily routine I didn't feel any significant change yet except from a burning sensation at perineum. I'm going to check my prostate next time since I' ve heard that testosterone can cause it to enlarge.
What's your opinion?

 

[andrewx]

Maybe other members can provide more information but going from 300~ to 1500 ng/dl should change something in your daily life. For me, going from 300 to 800-900~ with injectables, I can say I got much more energy, motivation, libido, no more ED, better recovery and endurance in the gym.

If you had 300ng/dl test before and you were asimptomatic, then the only difference you can feel is in the gym, you should recover faster than before and thus grow lean mass faster.

 

[LevButlerov]

Update: I've decided to give testosterone cream a chance.
After 15 days of application, at 2 pumps per day (each pump delivers 0,5 gr of cream containing 100mg of testosterone), labs were amazing:
ΤESTOSTERONE AT 1496 ng/dL
I'm going to reduce the dose at 1 pump per day, since I'm aiming at levels around 800 ng/dL.
Despite that, in my daily routine I didn't feel any significant change yet except from a burning sensation at perineum. I'm going to check my prostate next time since I' ve heard that testosterone can cause it to enlarge.
What's your opinion?

@DSA35 Testosterone cream is not going to do much in the long run, it feels like it works but you'll see the problem and sides from it.

We asked you to start a log, please do, we can't just tell you about your prostate without knowing what you do day to day.
Click below on log directions
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/testosterone-cream-liposomal-20.103603/post-1705250

@DSA35 welcome to the EVO family bro

happy to see you sharing and openly discussing a way to change your life. Your question is interesting but vague, do creams work? well depends for who and for what purpose. I'm not sure if they would work for you bro, why? well we dont know anything about you except your age really. we need to know more about you to really guide you and help you, including seeing your full blood work (blur personal info).
how do we do that?
you need to start a new thread with your current lifestyle log journal DIet training cardio sleep history and more and we can analyze as a community and help guide you into TRT or creams or another path bro but we would neeed to do it with way more info
a log takes 15min of your time and easy to do

HOW-TO LOG?

• To really guide you we need more info from you.
• Please share your diet, training, cardio, sleep, supplements etc log with us in a NEW thread, full log journal so our guidance is based on facts you provide.
• It will take 15-20 minutes max.
• We have 100s of years of experience between us, so you need to post a LOG Journal with your stats (weight,height,age, years training, cycle history) diet, training, cardio, supplement, sleep details. If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.

Please post a Log Journal asap for us

Please click the anabolic forum
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/forums/anabolic-steroids-and-peds.2/
top RIGHT, you see: +POST THREAD
click that

in Title: write your cycle name, like> My _____ Cycle Log
___ = the name of your log
example: My Training Nutrition Log
in body: write your planned cycle or cycle you doing now, your diet, training and we will help you along on your cycle

here are examples of LOG Journals

https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-recomp-cut-log-2023-2024.96694/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/mobsters-training-diary.84438/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roidrage69-log.90127
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/domestic-supply-bulking-log-25homes-max.97609/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...obolan-equipoise-tbol-contest-prep-log.97138/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...osterone-deca-primobolan-hgh-cycle-log.97978/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...igas-hgh-and-bpc157-recovery-cycle-log.97594/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...enbolone-cycle-log-let-the-gains-begin.98399/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/pigsy-new-sponsor-ugl-contest-prep-log.96779/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-2023-2024-log.95956/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...stosterone-cardarine-cutting-cycle-log.97281/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roidragewife-female-training-log.95769/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/2024-lean-bulking-cycle-log.97986/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-trt-with-deca-durabolin-log.97962/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...bodybuilding-log-masters-55-competitor.97210/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/losiol-primobolan-testosterone-log.96581/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roughy-steroid-cycle-and-training.97944/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/fatboy999-2024-cycle-log.97936/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/testosterone-equipoise-trenbolone-cycle-log.96963/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-trt-log.98284/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/16-week-testosterone-cardarine-n2guard-cycle-log.98034/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/training-log-female.90425
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...tosterone-masteron-primobolan-blast-log.98328
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/25homes-revenge-transformation-log-2023.88570/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...n-season-sponsored-by-nordic-fusion-log.89817
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-contest-prep-log.87619/

P.S. are you listening to our podcast? if not, you should; this podcast is about steroids, sarms, peptides, and bodybuilding:
https://www.evolutionary.org/podcasts/

P.P.S. download our eBooks and learn more:
https://irongorillas.com

 

[DSA35]

Could you be more specific when you said "you'll see the problem and sides from it"? What do you mean? What will be the problems and sides from testosterone cream?

As far as it concerns what a testosterone cream could do in long run, that's my question too. Will a testosterone cream help in loosing fat and building muscles? Labs seems good at first sight, but the results in real life are what matters.

 

[andrewx]

Could you be more specific when you said "you'll see the problem and sides from it"? What do you mean? What will be the problems and sides from testosterone cream?

As far as it concerns what a testosterone cream could do in long run, that's my question too. Will a testosterone cream help in loosing fat and building muscles? Labs seems good at first sight, but the results in real life are what matters.

Same side effects as with injectable testosterone:
- High Estrogen because the body has more testosterone to aromatize which will cause gynecomastia, increased BP, bloating, mood swings, libido issues, ED, etc.
- Enlarged prostate.
- Decrease HDL so if your LDL is high you're running into cardiovascular risks
- Increased RBC count so thickening of the blood
- Risks of enlarged organs (most notably the heart)

With a 1.5k ng/dl testosterone you're probably gonna run into all of them except maybe the enlargement of organs, which happens after years of solid gear abuse.

 

[DSA35]

Same side effects as with injectable testosterone:
- High Estrogen because the body has more testosterone to aromatize which will cause gynecomastia, increased BP, bloating, mood swings, libido issues, ED, etc.
- Enlarged prostate.
- Decrease HDL so if your LDL is high you're running into cardiovascular risks
- Increased RBC count so thickening of the blood
- Risks of enlarged organs (most notably the heart)

With a 1.5k ng/dl testosterone you're probably gonna run into all of them except maybe the enlargement of organs, which happens after years of solid gear abuse.

That's why I'm reducing the dose, aiming at levels between 700-800 ng/dl.

But I know that exogenous testosterone, at any dose, will have side effects.

 

[LevButlerov]

Could you be more specific when you said "you'll see the problem and sides from it"? What do you mean? What will be the problems and sides from testosterone cream?

As far as it concerns what a testosterone cream could do in long run, that's my question too. Will a testosterone cream help in loosing fat and building muscles? Labs seems good at first sight, but the results in real life are what matters.

There are many sides possible from cream, but I dont trust cream at all.

You still haven't address the logging question here
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/testosterone-cream-liposomal-20.103603/post-1705250

@DSA35

 

[JuicyD]

Testosterone cream for the best absorption would be the 20% scrotal cream
Side effects you’ll be most likely less prone to get due to the daily application meaning less peaks and troughs more of a stable level
Downside is how well the body absorbs the cream everybody’s different.
Numbers can be great on cream just as effective as injectables if absorbed properly

 

[LevButlerov]

Testosterone cream for the best absorption would be the 20% scrotal cream
Side effects you’ll be most likely less prone to get due to the daily application meaning less peaks and troughs more of a stable level
Downside is how well the body absorbs the cream everybody’s different.
Numbers can be great on cream just as effective as injectables if absorbed properly

@JuicyD welcome back to the EVO family havent seen you post in a bit now, how have you been?
you using test cream?