macros are very nice today with low carbs, you have energy? @toddthelineman
@toddthelineman yeah that is good you stopped the meds if you don't need them
i'm very impressed with your supplement list. and the macros look strong. 440g of protein is the highest iv'e seen today!
Got it! I never would have guessed that. I was just looking for a spot that had some thicker skin that wasn’t already being pinned regularly
Yes, I’m full of energy. I don’t really need carbs for energy, it’s just cravings really. I would have to re-adapt for a week tops if I wanted to go totally zero carb again. I just don’t feel the need to do that. I’m not having any arthritis flares or ibs or any of the bad brain fog I used to get.
I’m not too sure I’m getting all that much out of it, but it’s pretty normal for me to eat like that. I just wasn’t super consistent until I was logging. Maybe I’m recomping a liiiiittle, but I don’t think most people get much leaner than I already am without going the extra mile. Idk. I’ve never tried to do that. But my recovery and progressive strength training has been good this whole time. My nagging injuries are improving or totally dormant. This log and the things I’m doing in it and the help all of you have given me has been some of the best effects I’ve gotten in these last six or seven years of self improvement or whatever it is I’m doing.
What do you mean by awake 6 vs asleep 8??
I mean I woke up at 6 am and got 8 hours of sleep. But that’s actually not right. The previous night I went to sleep at 10:30 so I really only got 7.5 hours of sleep. And I woke up twice that night.
30g needle not bad. you should use 31g
@toddthelineman 7200 steps and skiing/running is good cardio
@toddthelineman bro you gaining a lot of respect with all the red meat pics
@toddthelineman Biceps are definitely a sense of place to be injecting. Let us know how it's working out for you.I didn’t really track today and I’m not going to tomorrow. I’ll be back at it on Sunday. I’m eating a ton and a ton of protein and burning it all off like a gas fire. I’ll be checking in
Log 6/20/25
Awake: 6am
Sleep: 7:15 hrs
Body weight:
179
Bpc250mcg left bicep
TB 400mcg. Left delt
1.8 iu left love handle
BP:
Supplements (morning)
EPA DHA
Nattokinase
Probiotic
Digestive enzymes
Multi
TUDCA
NAC
Milk Thistle
Fadogia Aggrestis
6.25 aromasin
300mg l-carnotine/200mg choline right ventroglute
Glutathione 100mg right hip flexor
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Evening
Bpc 250mcg left bicep
TB400mcg left delt
1.8 iu serostim rt love handle
Supplements (evening)
Probiotic
EPA/DHA
TUDCA
Milk Thistle
NAC
Multi
Magnesium complete x2
Digestive enzymes
Melatonin
Hibiscus tea
Psyllium husk
Daily macros:
Calories
Protein
Carb
Fat
Steps: 8933
Go to sleep:10:30
@toddthelineman good going man....keep shining......I didn’t really track today and I’m not going to tomorrow. I’ll be back at it on Sunday. I’m eating a ton and a ton of protein and burning it all off like a gas fire. I’ll be checking in
Log 6/20/25
Awake: 6am
Sleep: 7:15 hrs
Body weight:
179
Bpc250mcg left bicep
TB 400mcg. Left delt
1.8 iu left love handle
BP:
Supplements (morning)
EPA DHA
Nattokinase
Probiotic
Digestive enzymes
Multi
TUDCA
NAC
Milk Thistle
Fadogia Aggrestis
6.25 aromasin
300mg l-carnotine/200mg choline right ventroglute
Glutathione 100mg right hip flexor
________________________________
________________________________
Evening
Bpc 250mcg left bicep
TB400mcg left delt
1.8 iu serostim rt love handle
Supplements (evening)
Probiotic
EPA/DHA
TUDCA
Milk Thistle
NAC
Multi
Magnesium complete x2
Digestive enzymes
Melatonin
Hibiscus tea
Psyllium husk
Daily macros:
Calories
Protein
Carb
Fat
Steps: 8933
Go to sleep:10:30
@toddthelineman nice work big fella. Love the log
Thats great news bp is in a good spot
@toddthelineman I love the look of the steak and your dedication to the game, but zoomed in couldn't see macros. lol
The fadogia is new right?
Well, I stopped taking hCG, and I just am not comfortable having smaller balls. I don’t like them going places where they don’t normally go.I used it before too. I had like half a bottle laying around so I just started taking it.
@LevButlerov i believe these are it
Really? I found when hoping on TRT my balls were a better size. More aerodynamic and less likely to get injured... especially when riding my motorcycles or mountain bikes lol
@toddthelineman quality work man
Right on man hahaha. I actually did hit my balls in rough water when I was barefooting last weekend. That sucked a lot and wouldn’t have happened if I was smaller than grapes and pulled into my pelvis. I just can’t get used to that. I used hcg ever since my first pin. Figured I’d come off eventually and I heard hcg can help you recover faster if you used it on cycle. I think it’s five years later now. My e2 was like 70 and the guys on here encouraged me to get it down, so I lowered my dose, stopped the hcg, and I’m taking 6.25 mg aromasin eod. I’ll have to get bloods again. My balls started aching about a week after stopping hcg. That happened before when I ran out and was waiting for international shipping. Then they ache again when they plump back up. I do like hcg. I’m pretty sure I was feeling better on it than off and others have said that too. Sex is better imo. Smaller loads are not the worst thing. I was always used to shooting big ones so it’s a psychological thing for me
400 grams of fat???
Yeah that’s definitely not right. My fitness pal is only as good as the user I guess. It had my pound of chicken tenderloins at 256g of fat. Not even close
well thats why logging is important
@toddthelineman bro have you ever tried yoga?
Yes! I do a handful of poses daily. I was alternating yoga with lifting for a couple years. I need to fit it back in more seriously un my life, but I’m already the busiest person I know hahaha
I think I do eat that much sometimes. I’ve been consciously trying not to. I don’t know if Ira really harming me. Just trying to adapt to a more traditional way of building lean muscle. Do what works, right?400 grams of fat lolI was like you're beast mode. @toddthelineman
I'm doubting 400 grams of fat but maybe you're hardcore
Yeah I was just glancing through MFP and there are days I was in the mid 200s. And that’s me avoiding fat. Low fat cottage cheese, non fat yogurt, etc. I never used to buy that stuff. I used to eat whole salamis and boxes of precooked bacon daily, and still eat pounds of fatty meat after work, and meant like half a stick of butter into my scrambled eggs. There’s no telling how much fat I ate as a carnivore. Huge amounts to meet my caloric need with no carbs at all.I'm doubting 400 grams of fat but maybe you're hardcore
If you're doing this with low carbs, it's perfect
I may ultimately do that. I haven’t decided. As I have more time and hopefully money I will probably get some heart imaging to see what kind of damage I’ve done to myself. Then I’ll make a plan and get more imaging and see what happensIf you're doing this with low carbs, it's perfect
If you're low carbs and in ketosis there is no damage. @toddthelineman you have an active job and you train, you're burning off the ketones.
That’s what I heard. But I did have a terrible diet for many years, and did a lot of other things.
I get it, but stay the course now
Bro skip the planks...you'd be better off working the yoga back in like you wanted.
Give some blood and add mk677 nutrobal 10mgs before bed. @toddthelineman and btw always heat cuts appetite.
So I always do planks when I’m not climbing a lot of poles. It’sa very functional thing for me. When you’re climbing a lot, you’re either leaning back or to the side for sometimes several minutes while doing something tedious or you’re pulling or lifting something heavy. I’m currently on an all underground job, so when I get back in the air, if I can’t use a bucket, my obliques will be screeeeaaaaming. It can be pretty intense, a lot of new apprentices can’t believe that it hurts that bad and they think something is wrong. My union buddies will climb a max of four poles a day, but usually they will throw an army at a job and only climb one a day per guy. I’ll hit 30 a day myself easy, and if the work is right I’ve gone over 100 poles in one day for back to back days. I’ve got two river crossings coming up where I’ll be on four poles for at maybe an hour each. Leaning back and to the side the whole time. I’ve definitely found planks useful for keeping strong when I’m not climbing. A lot of ab work kills my back. Anything that overuses my hip flexors cripples me.
If they work for you then that's great bro. Anything to help relieve the pain and stress.So I always do planks when I’m not climbing a lot of poles. It’sa very functional thing for me. When you’re climbing a lot, you’re either leaning back or to the side for sometimes several minutes while doing something tedious or you’re pulling or lifting something heavy. I’m currently on an all underground job, so when I get back in the air, if I can’t use a bucket, my obliques will be screeeeaaaaming. It can be pretty intense, a lot of new apprentices can’t believe that it hurts that bad and they think something is wrong. My union buddies will climb a max of four poles a day, but usually they will throw an army at a job and only climb one a day per guy. I’ll hit 30 a day myself easy, and if the work is right I’ve gone over 100 poles in one day for back to back days. I’ve got two river crossings coming up where I’ll be on four poles for at maybe an hour each. Leaning back and to the side the whole time. I’ve definitely found planks useful for keeping strong when I’m not climbing. A lot of ab work kills my back. Anything that overuses my hip flexors cripples me.
I’m actually surprised you don’t like planks. It’s only a few minutes
I appreciate it! I may play around with your ideas. Maybe it will work even better
Ya I'm thinking more strength building but what you're aiming for is more prehab rehab.
Pretty cool. Never heard of that before but I'm definitely gonna check it out on the next shopping run. I'm burning through 2kg of chicken breasts every 3 days and that's just for meal prepping my extra meal after work. This could be a very helpful hack. Thanks bro
I definitely got my ability to eat absurd amounts of meat from being carnivore I was traveling back then so I would usually fast while working and then just absolutely gorge myself on fatty meat at night.
Like everyone says, listen to your body. You seem really in tune with yourself so just go with it. And ya you are a bit of a mad scientist lol. Maybe settling in for a bit once you feel right is the way to go.
@toddthelineman I find your diet very interesting, high protein and you're very steady always. And the chicken is the best cheap protein, always high protein and easy on the wallet. Thats why most bodybuilding is chicken+rice LOL cheapest and most filling protein source.
@toddthelineman I find your diet very interesting, high protein and you're very steady always. And the chicken is the best cheap protein, always high protein and easy on the wallet. Thats why most bodybuilding is chicken+rice LOL cheapest and most filling protein source.
hows your shoulder feel?
My only ailment is this left lower bicep/ outer forearm thing. Idk of its tennis elbow or tendinitis or what, but it just won’t quit. It’s not super bad, but won’t go away. Annoying
Stay on bpc it will iron out, make sure tb500 in there too
Oh yeah! I have to order more tb.Stay on bpc it will iron out, make sure tb500 in there too
When someone actually graftsSo I always do planks when I’m not climbing a lot of poles. It’sa very functional thing for me. When you’re climbing a lot, you’re either leaning back or to the side for sometimes several minutes while doing something tedious or you’re pulling or lifting something heavy. I’m currently on an all underground job, so when I get back in the air, if I can’t use a bucket, my obliques will be screeeeaaaaming. It can be pretty intense, a lot of new apprentices can’t believe that it hurts that bad and they think something is wrong. My union buddies will climb a max of four poles a day, but usually they will throw an army at a job and only climb one a day per guy. I’ll hit 30 a day myself easy, and if the work is right I’ve gone over 100 poles in one day for back to back days. I’ve got two river crossings coming up where I’ll be on four poles for at maybe an hour each. Leaning back and to the side the whole time. I’ve definitely found planks useful for keeping strong when I’m not climbing. A lot of ab work kills my back. Anything that overuses my hip flexors cripples me.
I’m actually surprised you don’t like planks. It’s only a few minutes
That's what you need, but make sure you get it from umbrella labs. I've seen too many non-usa made peptides have issues.
Get that Therabar going too. The real problem is once tendonitis flares up you gotta give it a bit of a break to heal but with the kinda work we do it never gets that break.
100% BPC and TB are the best.
It just came in the mail yesterday
@toddthelineman 465g protein is A LOT
Yeah that day was kind of a fluke. I wasn’t very hungry, but the chicken was good. I actually ate three pounds instead of two(which is what I logged) so I ate more protein and calories than I thought
3 pounds is a lot
Honestly, it’s the cheapest chicken at the store. I used to buy farm chickens but they’re like $40 for a whole chicken, and chicken is just not very satisfying for me. In my mind, the very lean cuts of cheap chicken maybe aren’t too bad to save a little money and switch it up once or twice a week.
@toddthelineman
Good looking out. I don’t think I ever did get a stomach ache from it, I would hate that. I’ve been drinking it once in the evening with my supplements. Washing down the handful of pills. It’s supposed to be good for blood sugar and blood pressure. I cold brew it and I love the taste
I had a poor experience with blue tops and blood pressure, carpal tunnel, water retention. I didn’t like it. The only issues I’ve had with medical rHGH is price and availability. Oh and letters from customs. I don’t care for that much lol. But the sleep and recovery is so good and so badly needed for me.@toddthelineman Like the supplements but jealous of serostim
This was the main thing. The source I have told me $800 and availability if few and far between. Currently running Pharmaq at 3IU and thinking about bumping to 4 to see if I get the improved sleep. As of now my sleep if no different than when I started GH 3 months ago.I had a poor experience with blue tops and blood pressure, carpal tunnel, water retention. I didn’t like it. The only issues I’ve had with medical rHGH is price and availability. Oh and letters from customs. I don’t care for that much lol. But the sleep and recovery is so good and so badly needed for me.
That reminds me, I better order more or I’ll lapse
Mmmm. And you’re a really tall, big dude right? I wonder if that would mean you need more. That would suck. Serostim is basically a Mercedes payment. Or child support. Maybe not worth it
I'am a short fat dudeMmmm. And you’re a really tall, big dude right? I wonder if that would mean you need more. That would suck. Serostim is basically a Mercedes payment. Or child support. Maybe not worth it
5'9" 185.
So 4iu of what you’re taking has no noticeable effects? Or just no improved sleep? I tried a few of the different rHGHs like norditropin and genotropin and a couple others. They all were good but one genotropin pen didn’t seem to do much at all. For what I’m doing, I’m sure I don’t need the absolute best most expensive stuff, I just need something that isn’t BS and possibly dangerousI'am a short fat dude
You right on the payment, hell my F250 payment was cheaper than that.
Haven't tried 4IU, I know at 3 there is no improved sleep. I will bump it up to 4 next week and run that for a couple of months to see.
@toddthelineman good looking on the protein and avocado
Idk if the bpc is really working, but I’m injecting it near where my pain is, and it hasn’t been a problem at all. I was injecting it in my lower bicep, and never had a problem until someone mentioned it hahaha. Then my arm jumped pretty good when in pinned, but it was ok after. It’s just a 30g and I’m not going very deep.
I ordered some. I also got some GW and some mk677. But I’m wondering, is mk something you can take as needed? That would be ideal for me. Some days I’m already so hungry it’s very distracting and leads to bad choices. I just need a little boost for days that I’m not so hungry. If I’m not active I might not eat at all without forcing myself. It doesn’t happen often. Usually it’s a mood thing
i think mk677 nutrobal you can do 5-10mgs before bed broly easy and will help
yeah a cardiologist taught me that. bodybuilders eat so much low quality chicken that they end up with blogged arteries and blood clots. its not a direct cause but it certainly increases it
Hopefully I’ll have my own chickens by next year
yeah that would be ideal or find a place that sells them like that near you.
it may or may not help. but it does speed up recovery.
Yeah, it’s tough. It’s not baaaad and it’s gotten slightly better. But this is the season for my sport. My team needs me. Two more tournaments and many more shows and practices. I’m right handed so day to day I can let it rest, but it’s the hand I hold everything with including my ski handle. So I’m doing everything I can and hoping for the best
You’re right. Why am I siéndome a diesel truck payment on gh, and eating cheap food? I know better. Thanks man
that is good that your team needs you
sounds good !
@toddthelineman lethargy and low mood, that could be an issue with hormones broly or overall macros
Well I also performed in a water ski show, but I never fell so I didn’t have to run or swim, but I was for sure exerting myself with a couple max effort movements and then long isometrics as I ski with 100 or 200 pounds on my shoulders.
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