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I'll go back to 5 and see how I go. My volume is pretty low currently but still worth a go.
Your training and food is perfect to me brother
On tren ace atm (microdosing 100mg a week on my test EQ cycle) and tell u what the old private browsing has been getting a workout! Especially with an uninterested wife!
That tren got you hungry for 6 days i get that,remember to rest brother
Fuck i love thai food ey, flavours just hit different lol
How many weeks straight have you been pushing brother? If energy is slowing and weights are stalling receding might be your body telling you it needs a deload.
Not only do I not use private browser I have an account with p**nhub to let their algorithm suggest the good shit me and HarleyGirl like to watch together haha.
Good idea. No need for 6/7 days of training. I would take @Mobster's idea and make your week be 9 days and train 6/9 days then.
There's a whole bunch of actual studies on recovery yet, as an example quoted in your reply, here we all are still trying to squeeze it all into a 7 day week
Couldn't agree more. My "weeks" are all over the place and I ignore the number 7.
The considerations when it comes to volume are simple.
1. Are you still making progression?
2. Are you able to recover in time for your next session?
As long as you can say yes to both those questions than you're on the right path bro. When you answer no, then it's time to assess and readjust. Kinda like your current predicament.
Trying new things is always a valuable learning experience. You tried 6 and currently it's not for you right. Lesson learned. Maybe under different circumstances it could work but for now its just not working.
I took a full deload week in mid October. Usually it's my sleep that tells me it's time for that (wake in the night and can't get back to sleep). I've actually done a mini deload just now.... By that I mean I ignored my weights from the previous weeks (since strength was feeling down) and just used the weights that felt right.
Yeah good idea I think. Was previously fixed to 7 as I needed Wednesday as a set day off but that's not the case now.
Perfect! One day off in a 7-day rotation is way too much.
I think my recovery is always fine. But progression has definitely stalled. I guess the main thing I was wondering is whether I should be able to progress while losing weight. With the help of gear I thought the answer would be yes.
My lack of progress seems to coincide with when my weight started falling in the last month.
In general, heavier bodybuilders can move heavier weights around so you're not wrong in stating that the weight loss is stalling your strength.
If you add proviron 25mg ED it will let loose your free T from your SHBG and let the compounds go to work harder for you.
Yeah sorry brother i just had a flick back through, your deload was just before you last progress photos (killer photos too haha)
Maybe a restructure like the boys where saying with your training split and allowing another rest day. What ever your split is give your self a rest day in the middle and then another at the end before the split restarts. That becomes your workout cycle then and dont worrk about 'weeks' as such.
Progress doesnt just have to be weight increases though brother. Improvement in form, tempo, control is still all progress.
Give the restructure a try for a couple of weeks and see how you feel and if weight is still receding after 3 weeks then it needs to be addressed as you may be dropping weight too fast and losing a little muscle in th process.
Yeah and I found that to be so true for me being tall with long limbs. I once bulked up to around 110kg (as with now, normal weight range has been in the 90's). Man the weights I was moving at that weight. But since we are bodybuilding I suppose the important thing is how much stimulus the target muscle is getting.
Have thought about proviron after (I think) seeing discussions between yourself and @toddthelineman about it. Am currently using Anavar 30mg/day. But definitely interested in the feel good and libido? benefits of proviron.
Thanks for the detailed response bro! I guess I found it strange that my weight held steady for 6 weeks at the start of the cycle (and that was with definite visual improvements in body fat) but then in the last month started falling reasonably quickly.
But will add in an extra off day and see how I go (see below).
Naw your strength shouldn't fall off with your weight. I've lost weight before when I was powerlifting and my progress didn't stall out or dip. It's not uncommon for powerlifter to cut to make weight classes and still keep their lifts up and progress.
If you're weight loss and caloric intake was dramatic then maybe. You're definitely overdoing it bro. 6 days a week is pretty damn crazy lol. Especially if you're actually pushing yourself to progress. I know there are lots of people who go to the gym 6 days a week but those are the people who play on their phones the whole time, barely lift, then do 20 mins on the elliptical before they go to the bar lol. You don't strike me as that guy
Yeah I like it a lot. I think it’s a really good tool for anyone who’s cycling or coming off a cycle. Especially if you’re prone to mental side effects which I am and if my libido isn’t good I’m not ok mentally
Rest day today. From now I will try 5 weight days a week or a rolling split.
Will have one full rest day and another where I do cardio and abs (today).
10 min incline treadmill
20 min yoga style stretching
Dragon flags
Machine crunches
Planks
30 min incline treadmill
Will have one full rest day and another where I do cardio and abs (today).
10 min incline treadmill
20 min yoga style stretching
Dragon flags
Machine crunches
Planks
30 min incline treadmill
Hey mate, yeah definitely not like that. Have made the change to an extra rest day starting today.
Re strength and overall weight, you don't think a higher body weight helps in compound lifts? My only ever period of respectable lifts was when I was 105kg+ (even though body fat was high). When I was 110kg, I was benching 50kg db's. Now I'd get crushed by the 40's. I guess I was 10 or so years younger.
Gotta becareful about where and when using Proviron tho. I stayed on it 6 weeks after my NPP cycle and I think I stayed too long. Pretty sure it was causing me these low E2 like symptoms. Not positive though. Here's a good video summing up where and when to actually use it. @HarleyGuy
Well. Did they talk about how it’s like an antidote to mental sides from nandrolones? I watched it but I have a hard time absorbing all the chit chat. Seems like they were just talking bloodwork and numbers, like shbg but not addressing the antidepressant effects that many people experience from it. If it lowers e2 enough to be a problem that’s definitely concerning.
I run P5P and Mucuna Pruiens with NPP and find it helps quite alot.
Yea people think it's a totally safe ancillary but I remember seeing this video a little while ago and thought it was a good time to share. Definitely a must have for nandralones or libido issues tho.
The chit chat does get me too LOL. Short attention spans haha. If I'm not fully locked in on something I have the brain of a squirrel
Haha age dedin could be a factor there haha.
Weight going up will definitely help increase lifts for sure. It's the old common phase mass moves mass that everyone says.
What I mean is losing a little bit of weight isn't going to effect your lifts over a training cycle. If you're training and losing bodyfat cuz of that your lifts shouldn't be decreasing. You should still be able to progress. Especially considering you're recomping.
Just be careful if you class a cardio and abs day as a rest day,i tried this but ended up burning myself out for following sessions,I do follow a plp split though,if i do wake up early on a rest day and say 'fuck it' i just go down for light stretching if anything, but if it works for you send it brother
I’ve also heard that it’s not totally awesome to crush shbg either. Like it’s there for a reason. Lots of nuance. To me, proviron feels like a tiny dose of masteron. That stuff made me feel great. Super positive and happy but way too libidinous hahaha.
Looking great bro
You just need a tan white boy
Can tell you've built muscle while leaning out at the same time
Now at least flex in the pics homie
Own that shit
Lets go
Keep that foot on the gas
Real progress bro. Especially in the midsection. Total transformation there.
I'm with @SPOONMAN366
Give us a gun show!!
Thanks mate!Looking great bro
You just need a tan white boy
Can tell you've built muscle while leaning out at the same time
Now at least flex in the pics homie
Own that shit
Lets go
Keep that foot on the gas
Yeah the (lack of) tan is pretty bad. The lack of natural light made it worse going from right to left as well!
Going to try using some of my wife's fake tan and see how that goes. There's also some aussies trying MT-2. Be interesting to see how that goes.
Thanks mate! Yeah is good getting the definition in the midsection. I must admit I'll often flex a bit in front of the mirror to check it out.
Need to learn how to pose hey. Currently have no idea. Also probably need to get a stand or someone to take the photos for me.
bah very few guys know how to actually pose. Just throw up a classic front double bi for us. Looks like those arms are getting pretty big there!
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Thanks mate!You look amazing in the picsbigger leaner and way more tight @waggat
@waggat Keep the grind going, man. I still think that you're going to improve from here. You'll be shocked at what you look like 6 months or a year from now.
bros we seeing gradual improvement. keep it going. want to see you shredded by spring @waggat
Thanks mate!
@waggat your back training is outstanding. looks solid on this. i'm noticing big improvements keep it up!
Can definitely tell the difference in your vascularity if you take a look at your arm you can see the Vascularity in the most recent picture is definitely strong but then in the original picture that's oldest you don't see it. @waggat
Definitely can tell. Steady progress being made. @waggat The nice thing about steady progress is you can really get it going. It's one step at a time and it's consistent.
@waggat you’re making some great progress with this. Keep after it man you’ll be where you wanting in no time.
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great progress!
Farkk look out big boy
This is straight up recomping brother and its hard to do, huge hats off to you mate well done your looking
Keep on the gas hard now brother the next changes you make are going to be freaky!
Thanks mate!
Thanks mate! Definitely keen to keep pushing!Farkk look out big boy
This is straight up recomping brother and its hard to do, huge hats off to you mate well done your looking
Keep on the gas hard now brother the next changes you make are going to be freaky!
Thatta boy time to turn into a monster
Those meals are right up my alley!
Workout today.
Was inspired by watching some John Meadows videos so tried a few new exercises. One arm barbell row and meadows row. Really liked both.
20 min incline treadmill
30/11/25 - Pull day
Pulldown (kg)
Warmups, 62x10, 72x10, 82x9, 87x8
One arm barbell row (kg excl bar)
Warmup, 20x10, 25x9, 30x8
Meadows row (kg excl bar)
15x12, 17.5x12, 20x15
Machine reverse fly (lb)
90x12, 120x12, 130x12
Partials 145x18
Concentration curl
Warmup, 15x10, 17.5x9, 20x8
Incline curl
9x11, 12.5x10, 15x9
Y raises
10 min yoga style stretching
25 min incline treadmill
Was inspired by watching some John Meadows videos so tried a few new exercises. One arm barbell row and meadows row. Really liked both.
20 min incline treadmill
30/11/25 - Pull day
Pulldown (kg)
Warmups, 62x10, 72x10, 82x9, 87x8
One arm barbell row (kg excl bar)
Warmup, 20x10, 25x9, 30x8
Meadows row (kg excl bar)
15x12, 17.5x12, 20x15
Machine reverse fly (lb)
90x12, 120x12, 130x12
Partials 145x18
Concentration curl
Warmup, 15x10, 17.5x9, 20x8
Incline curl
9x11, 12.5x10, 15x9
Y raises
10 min yoga style stretching
25 min incline treadmill
Yeah they are all staples.... although one kid doesn't like the Portuguese chicken and rice... I don't really understand why.
Beautiful looking clean meals and solid workout as always my bro 
those mealssss....Those pull downs and revers flys are proper weight big man love seeing that!!
Had a pub meal myself tonight, best friends birthday so thought i wpuld treat myself to my first cheat meal this run
not even gonna lie could have demolished ten of these lol wasnt the biggest serving hahaha 
Thanks mate! Tried wider grip pulldowns as I haven't done them for a while. Felt alright.
Those pull downs and revers flys are proper weight big man love seeing that!!
Had a pub meal myself tonight, best friends birthday so thought i wpuld treat myself to my first cheat meal this run
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I think I'm finally getting somewhere with rear delts hey. I've never done partials on machine rear delt before but quite liked them.
That salmon looks awesome.
Thanks mate!Beautiful looking clean meals and solid workout as always my bro
Wide grip is always a solid way to gain some more direct muscle connection to the lats. A mag grip in different widths is also something worth exploring as a relaxed hand position can loosen grip and remove most of the unintentional assistance from the biceps.
Rear delts bro, even try an arm position just standing there with elbows remaining higher the then hands until your completely feel it in your rear delts and implement that exact position on the machine. Just train to true failure pushing past with partials until you cant even with a gun to your head hahaha
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I'd eat that looks soooo tasty
Those pull downs and revers flys are proper weight big man love seeing that!!
Had a pub meal myself tonight, best friends birthday so thought i wpuld treat myself to my first cheat meal this run
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Was pretty good brother hahaI'd eat that looks soooo tasty
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I want oneWas pretty good brother haha
Workout today .
Was a good one. The first time I've had to do extra sets with more weight for a while. That was on the HS incline.
20 min incline treadmill
02/12/25 - Push
Incline BB press (kg)
Warmups, 50x9, 57.5x8, 65x8
HS incline press (kg each side)
Warmup, 27.5x10, 32.5x9, 35x8
Db lateral raise (kg each)
Warmup, 10x12, 12.5x11
DB shoulder press (kg db's)
Warmup, 17.5x10, 22.5x9, 27.5x8
Rope tricep pushdown (kg)
Warmup, 15x13, 17.5x10, 17.5x9
PJR pullover (kg)
25x14, 30x12, 35x11
25 min incline treadmill
Was a good one. The first time I've had to do extra sets with more weight for a while. That was on the HS incline.
20 min incline treadmill
02/12/25 - Push
Incline BB press (kg)
Warmups, 50x9, 57.5x8, 65x8
HS incline press (kg each side)
Warmup, 27.5x10, 32.5x9, 35x8
Db lateral raise (kg each)
Warmup, 10x12, 12.5x11
DB shoulder press (kg db's)
Warmup, 17.5x10, 22.5x9, 27.5x8
Rope tricep pushdown (kg)
Warmup, 15x13, 17.5x10, 17.5x9
PJR pullover (kg)
25x14, 30x12, 35x11
25 min incline treadmill
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beautiful meal again
good macros
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training pump , get some planks in there
@waggat that is definitely a good looking meal right there. Looks like you put together a nice balanced meal.
Hey mate, it's just from Recipetin Eats like a lot of my stuff. Pork Carnitas/ Mexican slow cooked pulled pork.Bro can you send me how you done the pulled pork lol pleaasseee
Pretty easy really. Boneless pork shoulder. Season and cook in slow cooker. Then break apart and fry off in batches.
Thanks mate!Smashed this workout brother
Cardio on both ends
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I'm doing abs on leg day at the moment. Are you a fan of planks everyday @LevButlerov ? I could add to my stretching routine.training pump , get some planks in there
Thanks mate!
A+++
bros mexican pulled pork with rice/salad. that a hero's meal. good stuff ! @waggat
Bro you're killing it with the training. Your weights and reps have really come a long way since you started the log. Must feel great moving some heavy weights now right! All that hard work is paying off. Just keep pushing
Thanks mate. Dropping from 6 days to 5 has definitely freshened me up as well! Tomorrow is an off day and I'm already looking forward to the next workout.
Food looks good.
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mexican food is amazing @waggat i like the meal you got here. i could eat that everyday!
@waggat dinner is. Served right here. I liked it a lot. The rice and salad with the pork really hits the spot. This is a good nutrition dinner.
Talking about having a porn hub account, then want him to train 6/9. I see what you did there
I'd smash that!
Hahahaha good catch!Talking about having a porn hub account, then want him to train 6/9. I see what you did there
I'm definitely a fan of core training. If you can get it done every day you'll have a very strong core and a very impressive physique. That's something to strive for. @waggat
Nice solid session
@waggat meals look good.......
Thanks mate!Nice solid session
Thanks mate!
@waggat food is looking on point!
Workout today.
Have had two average sleeps in a row so decided to do a mild back off week. Dropped weights on top sets about 10-15%.
20 min incline treadmill
11/12/25 - Push
Incline BB press (kg)
Warmups, 47.5x10, 55x9, 60x6
HS incline press (kg each side)
20x10, 25x10, 30x9
Db lateral raise (kg each)
Warmup, 8x12, 10x11
Incline front raise (kg db's)
5x13, 6x10
Tricep pushdown (kg)
Warmup, 21x13, 26x12, 30x12
PJR pullover (kg)
25x13, 30x12, 32.5x10
10 min yoga style stretching
25 min incline treadmill
Have had two average sleeps in a row so decided to do a mild back off week. Dropped weights on top sets about 10-15%.
20 min incline treadmill
11/12/25 - Push
Incline BB press (kg)
Warmups, 47.5x10, 55x9, 60x6
HS incline press (kg each side)
20x10, 25x10, 30x9
Db lateral raise (kg each)
Warmup, 8x12, 10x11
Incline front raise (kg db's)
5x13, 6x10
Tricep pushdown (kg)
Warmup, 21x13, 26x12, 30x12
PJR pullover (kg)
25x13, 30x12, 32.5x10
10 min yoga style stretching
25 min incline treadmill
Solid work brother
Props for holding it down with cardio both ends
U havnt missed with this
This is what brings results bro
Awesome stuff here legend! Alwayd nice to see a new number on the scales in the direction we're chasing
Crazy how much sleep effects us, smart play smoothing things back so your not burning out brother
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