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Maybe go low volume for a bit.
Just until the injuries calm down.
Just until the injuries calm down.
You could literally step on stage and win some competitions.
You looked at good.
You looked at good.
Bro, I like to push through injuries but I'm a wild man. Maybe the guys, right? And you gotta take a little bit of a downshift.
@Bluebone looking extremely vascular brother. Nice work.
Yesterdays upper body workout (weights sets reps not recorded as mainly managing load and working rehab on triceps tendon)
Any type of pressing was an absolute punish. Weight had to be dropped very very significantly to avoid painful ROM. Free weights were pretty much a write off, had to use machines
- tricep focussed rehab work (slow eccentrics, isometrics, pump work for blood flow)
- Y-raises
- Hammer Strength Low Row
- Mag bar Mid grip pull downs
- machine incline press
- machine horizontal press
- bicep curls
(Probably some others I’m forgetting)
Had ultrasound - both elbows were scanned all over waiting on final report but sonographer said obvious tears where I have current golfers elbow and forearm flexor pain (opposite arm to main triceps tendon pain), and potential tear in my most painful triceps tendon but have to wait for final report to confirm
Any type of pressing was an absolute punish. Weight had to be dropped very very significantly to avoid painful ROM. Free weights were pretty much a write off, had to use machines
- tricep focussed rehab work (slow eccentrics, isometrics, pump work for blood flow)
- Y-raises
- Hammer Strength Low Row
- Mag bar Mid grip pull downs
- machine incline press
- machine horizontal press
- bicep curls
(Probably some others I’m forgetting)
Had ultrasound - both elbows were scanned all over waiting on final report but sonographer said obvious tears where I have current golfers elbow and forearm flexor pain (opposite arm to main triceps tendon pain), and potential tear in my most painful triceps tendon but have to wait for final report to confirm
@Bluebone looking great bro!
@Bluebone Workout looks strong bro.....keep killing it........
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The rehab is an issue with upper I think, how much bpc/tb are you using now?
Hey mate BPC @ 1000mcg split into 2 shots (morn/night) ED; TB500 3500mcg EOD. So room to move it up. Waiting on final ultrasound report. But all the peptides in the world won’t help healing if I don’t back off both upper body work and JJ. Have surgery coming up in 2 weeks so that’ll force me to take a break regardless
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This is a good dose, very high, and tb you can move up to 5mgs. @Bluebone
Light lower body day today.
Due to large tears in forearm flexor and extensor tendons in one arm (confirmed by ultrasound), swapped out deadlifts (avoiding gripping) with some light SSB good mornings.
Hack Squats
130kg/12, 130/14, 150/8, 170/8
Goodmornings ssb
35/15, 45/15, 55/15, 55/15
Leg ext
50/12, 50/12
Leg curls
50/12, 50/12
Incline Side Crunches
15, 15
Standing cable crunches
15,15
Due to large tears in forearm flexor and extensor tendons in one arm (confirmed by ultrasound), swapped out deadlifts (avoiding gripping) with some light SSB good mornings.
Hack Squats
130kg/12, 130/14, 150/8, 170/8
Goodmornings ssb
35/15, 45/15, 55/15, 55/15
Leg ext
50/12, 50/12
Leg curls
50/12, 50/12
Incline Side Crunches
15, 15
Standing cable crunches
15,15
@Bluebone how bad are your tears bro? you can still train with them
Roughly 1/3rd to a quarter of flexor and 1/6th of extensor. I’m used to pain. They’re in forearm, so it’s just load management and avoiding certain excercise that strain them until they heal to a certain level. Hence avoiding deads with gripping on lower body days. Upper body days will be a nightmare to adjust but gotta do it. Still waiting on confirmation on whether tricep tendon has a tear too
you gotta get bpc tb in that site bro
That's good that you have good health care. That can diagnose your problems. A lot of times people, just let them go.
Yeah that is the unfortunate reality of things
Unsure what other injuries I’ve been hit with?
Maybe you’re thinking of sicknesses I’ve got from my kids in daycare a bunch of times
@Bluebone Smart move going light on lower body and modifying your workout due to the forearm tears. Good to see you're still getting it done and prioritizing recovery!
@Bluebone bet your legs were hurting after this
There was no acute event that I can point to that caused the forearm flexor and extensor tendon tears / golfer’s elbow and tennis elbow positions respectively (it’s not like I got arm bar’d or something), it’s just developed over time. I know the problematic exercises that most likely contributed to the tearing over time. I also think altered bar path / technique on a bunch of excercises due to triceps tendonitis probably played a contributing role too
So I think it all started from developing triceps tendonitis in both arms. This happened before I even jumped on juice so over a year ago (got on juice around July and this injury prob started 3 months or so before I’d say). I was programming constant tricep specialisation work in training blocks, aiming to make the triceps do more work in bench press and take work off the delts and pecs. It was working well, but I wasn’t rotating tricep excercises enough between training blocks, so the triceps were constantly getting punished from similarly angles. Then pain started to develop in the triceps tendons which I hadn’t got before. That’s the point I should’ve started having breaks from tricep specialisation work in training blocks, but I was stubborn, and I didn't, and the pain just set in strongly. By the time I started to address it and take triceps work out, regress weight on compound movements and rehab it was already really established. Got it to a good place over a long period, but while it was getting better it was probably effecting bar path / technique on other lifts, and more stress was probably being out on the forearm side of my elbow due to this. Obviously jiu jitsu with a lot of gripping and dynamic work doesn’t help.
Then the particular exercises I think really kept tearing the tendons would be:
Forearm extensors: reverse curls
(I’m usually pretty careful at keeping weight low on these as I know they can be problematic, but I had a few session where I got complacent and pushed up weight)
Forearm flexors: weighted chin-ups
(I need to be careful in jumping up weight to quickly on these when I haven’t had them in training blocks for ages. I find them easy, as I’ve done 50 to 60kg added to bodyweight in the past, but when I’ve had time off from them it’s always a temptation to push weight too fast - of which the tendons may no longer be used too)
But I’m used to training through pain, I have a high pain tolerance so it’s hard to tell the more serious injuries from something minor at times. For example I’ve had tennis and golfers elbow come and go over the years. They just go away themselves, and the pain level was similar to the tears I currently have. The only difference is this pain has hung around for longer.
If I was to stop training for every niggle and pain I’d never train. So it can be hard to tell where the line to stop is at times if it’s not a clear acute injury (like a disc injury on a deadlift or something like that - you know it’s time to pull up straight away when that happens). In fact I wouldn’t have even got this ultrasound if I didn’t have an acute injury to my tricep tendon at jj, and I asked them to scan every painful area while they were scanning my tricep tendon.
Anyway, I know now so I’m doing something about it, which is awesome
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sounds like you've been hammering those triceps too hard without mixing it up enough, leading to some serious overuse.
This probably threw off your form big time, forcing other parts of your arms to pick up the slack, classic recipe for those tendon issues, shit happened to me. It's crucial to vary those exercises more and give those triceps some rest to avoid this kind of problem. Now that you know, you can make those adjustments and keep those gains coming without the setbacks. Stay sharp on that form, bro! @Bluebone
any lunges /cardio?
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In Bangkok at the moment. Had some surgery done the other day, currently recovering (not related to any injuries). But the forced time off is making my tricep tendon and forearm tendon tears feel great.
Anyway before surgery dropped into a Bangkok gym (muscle factory) and got one last upper body session in. Obligatory selfie attached.
I’ll prob give recovery another week or 2 before I slowly start building into workouts again.
Currently feeling great on @Core Pharma 200mg TE and 100mg ME. 4iu GH and some tb and bpc to aid recovery
In Bangkok at the moment. Had some surgery done the other day, currently recovering (not related to any injuries). But the forced time off is making my tricep tendon and forearm tendon tears feel great.
Anyway before surgery dropped into a Bangkok gym (muscle factory) and got one last upper body session in. Obligatory selfie attached.
I’ll prob give recovery another week or 2 before I slowly start building into workouts again.
Currently feeling great on @Core Pharma 200mg TE and 100mg ME. 4iu GH and some tb and bpc to aid recovery
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Cheers mate.How serious is your surgery situation?
and you look great in the pic
No nothing serious just requires recovery time.
Just a hair transplant to fill in some thinning areas I’ve had for quite a few years. Been meaning to do for ages.
Ironically first time shaving head and I like it so transplant is now prob redundant and ill just keep a shaved head
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There is irony for you, you like the shaved head.
I'm not surprised, I like the bald look.
So proud of you mate and congrats on the Sex Change surgery. It takes big balls to remove big balls
Forgot to post bloods on @Core Pharma ’s gear I took just before I flew to Thailand in early April.
Bloods were collected about 22 days after last blast injection, before dropping down to 200 test e and 100 mast e. So there’s still probably some influence of the higher doses on blast as they work their way out of my system. Would usually wait longer between dose changes before bloods to let things reach steady state, but wanted to check health metrics before heading overseas, so just got hormones done with same panel.
@Core Pharma gear working awesome as always, results speak for themselves.
E2 getting a bit high for my liking (252 pmol/L) due to changing from ED injections on blast to 3x week now (+dropping primo). So added 50mg of primo back in post bloods
(Bloods drawn day after injection)
Bloods were collected about 22 days after last blast injection, before dropping down to 200 test e and 100 mast e. So there’s still probably some influence of the higher doses on blast as they work their way out of my system. Would usually wait longer between dose changes before bloods to let things reach steady state, but wanted to check health metrics before heading overseas, so just got hormones done with same panel.
@Core Pharma gear working awesome as always, results speak for themselves.
E2 getting a bit high for my liking (252 pmol/L) due to changing from ED injections on blast to 3x week now (+dropping primo). So added 50mg of primo back in post bloods
(Bloods drawn day after injection)
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estrogen levels are very high and doing ed to 3x/week injections not going to lower your estrogen bro thats a broscience myth
you need an ai there @Bluebone
waiting on updates training food
Isn’t the science based on less peaks and troughs and a steadier state of hormones so there for less peaks in aromatisation ?
Respectfully disagree it’s literal science not bro science. All good mate I’ll post when I’m ready cheers champ
100% right.
You inject less frequently you have greater test peaks hence get greater aromatisation and 5AR conversion.
The info in comments here seriously makes me scratch my head at times but to each their own
Unless of course these incorrect comments are intentionally made to stoke debate and drive engagement with the forum
respectfully the blood work says otherwise broRespectfully disagree it’s literal science not bro science. All good mate I’ll post when I’m ready cheers champ
you just have good genetics bro but 95% of guys dont @Bluebone
example here today with @Freki
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...-proviron-on-a-cruise-log.104036/post-1738418
in the long run bro its total test = total estrogen convesion
read this post i just got up, genetics are all the factor bro
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...avar-hgh-growth-cycle-log.102016/post-1738523
Respectfully the blood work is consistent with less injections = greater aromatisation
I started on ED injections and had lower e2 levels then moved to 3x week injections and had higher e2 at 100mg less testosterone
This is a consistent observation with all other bloodwork I’ve ever done. Greater injection frequency = less aromatisation and DHT
Next are you going to tell me primo doesn’t act as an AI? Because I literally said I added primo back in after seeing these results and you said “you should add an AI”
Also 220pmol/L isn’t an earth shatteringly high e2 result either I think you’re thinking of American standard units (but this is pmol/L). Always verify your units of measurement
like i said bro its your thats the special person, ive seen your pics you are top 5% @Bluebone great genetics
95% of guys dont have this
Well how can I argue with this
it aint an argument bro just facts
most guys in the gym are not genetically gifted like you, majority cant take 50-100mgs of primo and level their estrogen lol
most 95%+ need aromasin or arimided bro its just plain facts
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for some users sure and the "height" and level of aromatisation is going to heavily rely on the activity of the aromatase bro
its not the same for majority of users, in fact most guys on cycle are hit with high estrogen no matter if they do ED shots or every 2 days
Posting last few workouts below.
With the three tears I’ve got just managing load, keeping pain below a 4/10 for the injuries.
Lowering weights way the fuck down and increasing reps, mostly doing tempo work and or pauses on sets to increase the challenge with less weight
Doing rehab work also (separate sessions listed below) and getting massage and dry needle work around affected areas.
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With the three tears I’ve got just managing load, keeping pain below a 4/10 for the injuries.
Lowering weights way the fuck down and increasing reps, mostly doing tempo work and or pauses on sets to increase the challenge with less weight
Doing rehab work also (separate sessions listed below) and getting massage and dry needle work around affected areas.
Last few workouts:
3rd May
Machine Bench Press (4s Eccentric)
80kg/10 x 3
BTN Pulldown
30/12, 40/12, 40/12
Machine 80deg Shoulder Press (3s Eccentric)
45/12 x 3
Machine Row
80/12 x 3
Incline Db Bicep Curls Paused bottom
15/12 x 3
Powell Raise 4s eccentric
5/10 x 3
Thick Grip / Axle Bar Hold
3 x 30s
Machine Bench Press (4s Eccentric)
80kg/10 x 3
BTN Pulldown
30/12, 40/12, 40/12
Machine 80deg Shoulder Press (3s Eccentric)
45/12 x 3
Machine Row
80/12 x 3
Incline Db Bicep Curls Paused bottom
15/12 x 3
Powell Raise 4s eccentric
5/10 x 3
Thick Grip / Axle Bar Hold
3 x 30s
A couple of photos from yesterday as well.
Kinda going sideways to backwards at the moment with the tears and a couple of other things so to be expected.
As much as I love gym etc is way down my priority list, but will come back more dialled in soon
Kinda going sideways to backwards at the moment with the tears and a couple of other things so to be expected.
As much as I love gym etc is way down my priority list, but will come back more dialled in soon
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Again on the following from @Core Pharma :
200mg Test E
100mg Mast E
50mg Primo E
4iu GH at least 4 to 5 days
(Also tb and bpc)
200mg Test E
100mg Mast E
50mg Primo E
4iu GH at least 4 to 5 days
(Also tb and bpc)
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Welcome back @Bluebone have not seen you for about 10 days was worried.
You look great in the pictures, I like the ab and arm pump
legit solid.Training seems good, deep cardio? how about food?
@Bluebone You got some incredible size and vascularity fantastic work.
@Bluebone Bro, this looking really sweet. you got a good look to you. Nice prison Look
@Bluebone Bros, what's the deal with the tears? Is that just figure of speech or something really going on?
@Bluebone Totally understandable. Sometimes the gym has to take a second place in life. You can always share what's going on.
@Bluebone Great shot right there. You are the champion of the day. Iron training is paying off for you.
@Bluebone Wow. Great job on this man. You look so ripped and so hard.
That’s high praise coming from someone called ‘2Thick’
PS If you like the hardness you should see the cockle
Yoked
Rest and rehab is now a priority
@Bluebone Looking great bro!
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Great log there brother!! @Bluebone r
Ever beard heard of trestolone MENT ?
"Just a rumour I heard, that's what real men take"
I don't listen to gossip, or rumours and wear my lynx Africa every day, But word on the street is Trest MENT and Lynx Africa are what they and lynx africa fragrance of choice.
Anyway great results with this progression, great log too follow mate, well done!
Will keep following along!
Ever beard heard of trestolone MENT ?
"Just a rumour I heard, that's what real men take"
I don't listen to gossip, or rumours and wear my lynx Africa every day, But word on the street is Trest MENT and Lynx Africa are what they and lynx africa fragrance of choice.
Anyway great results with this progression, great log too follow mate, well done!
Will keep following along!
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MENT is a real man steroid for sure
Bro yes. Ment in the real man club. But tren is king of men
@Bluebone still looking killer. I don’t think youre going backwards brother.
@Bluebone lol. that was funny. i got this screen name for a reason!
@Bluebone Looking solid man....amazing progress........
Last few workouts below (including one I forgot to include in last post)
————- 8th May————
Upper body
Neutral grip overhead press machine (3s eccentric)
+50kg/16, x 3
Mag bar pulldown
45/20, 59/15 x 2
HS iso-lateral incline press (2s pause bottom, 3s ec)
40/14, 60/12 x 2
One arm db row (2s eccentric)
20/15x3
Cable lat raises (2s e)
9/15 x 3
Db curls (neutral to pronated)
15/10 x 3
Serrano press
3/12 x 2
————- 8th May————
Upper body
Neutral grip overhead press machine (3s eccentric)
+50kg/16, x 3
Mag bar pulldown
45/20, 59/15 x 2
HS iso-lateral incline press (2s pause bottom, 3s ec)
40/14, 60/12 x 2
One arm db row (2s eccentric)
20/15x3
Cable lat raises (2s e)
9/15 x 3
Db curls (neutral to pronated)
15/10 x 3
Serrano press
3/12 x 2
12th May upper body
Chest Press Machine (4s ecc)
80kg/10 x 3
Behind the neck pulldown 2s ec
40/15, 45/12, 45/12
HS plate loaded shoulder press machine 3s ecc
32/12 x 3
Single arm DY row 2s ecc
40/12 x 3
Incline db bicep curls paused bottom 1s
15/12 x 2, 17.5/10
Powell raise
3 sets
Chest Press Machine (4s ecc)
80kg/10 x 3
Behind the neck pulldown 2s ec
40/15, 45/12, 45/12
HS plate loaded shoulder press machine 3s ecc
32/12 x 3
Single arm DY row 2s ecc
40/12 x 3
Incline db bicep curls paused bottom 1s
15/12 x 2, 17.5/10
Powell raise
3 sets
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@Bluebone We actually talked about your long on a recent podcast. We are so impressed with your improvements and your physique.
@Bluebone bro this an iron clad hardcore workout session.
Looking sweet on this. I like a good leg training session and the calves, look, fantastic.
@Bluebone Bro, The evolutionary family really has a lot of respect for you. I like your workout sessions, they sweet and to the point lower body training, the best.
I'd love to see you lift heavier. I warm up with your SSB Squat weight (it's great that you're doing it though)
I can lift heavier but you do you and I’ll do me
I’ve got recovery from tears I’m more interested in and an old back injury from wrestling with 600kg to 1 tonne animals from when I was younger.
These working weights included slow eccentrics and decent bottom pauses too.
I’ll train hows best for me
I think no one can argue with your results! Very inspiring for me. You’re huge and you’re way more beat up than I amI can lift heavier but you do you and I’ll do me
I’ve got recovery from tears I’m more interested in and an old back injury from wrestling with 600kg to 1 tonne animals from when I was younger.
These working weights included slow eccentrics and decent bottom pauses too.
I’ll train hows best for me
@Bluebone Excellent job on these different exercises You're doing.
the leg training is definitely on point. Keep up the good work.
Split squats are a good one.
That cable decline setup is fun and challenging
@Bluebone split squats are amazing. also like the cable decline situps and the standing calf raises. that is the way it is done keep it up!
@Bluebone EVO family loves these types of workouts.
Here they are simple. But they are definitely legit.
The prone leg Curl is my favorite.
