EQ Dosing Protocols

[Mr.GoodKat]

Hey Evo Fam. I am wrapping up a cycle now of Test Deca and I think I want to give EQ a shot for my next go around. I’ve read countless posts on here and throughout the web but looking for more first hand advice.

First off I am 5-10, 216 pounds and I am a moderate aromatizer (average) I have taken up to a gram of test before and never got any test flu just had to up my AI a bit. I have experience with Deca, started out at 300 mg/week and increased up to 600 with no sides. I also have experience with Tren, started out at 225mg week and increased up to 525 mg with 700mg mast and 400mg test with little sides except the occasional tren sweats but nothing too severe.

I seem to have a pretty good tolerance for AAS and in my experience I have to push the doses up to see results. All gear I’ve used has been Geneza Pharm from Naps so I know it’s legit. My question is where should I start with a test EQ cycle for my next blast. I am thinking 1000 test 800 eq and is there anything else I should run alongside.

Thanks Evo fam.

 

[Eddie Haskell]

Hey Evo Fam. I am wrapping up a cycle now of Test Deca and I think I want to give EQ a shot for my next go around. I’ve read countless posts on here and throughout the web but looking for more first hand advice.

First off I am 5-10, 216 pounds and I am a moderate aromatizer (average) I have taken up to a gram of test before and never got any test flu just had to up my AI a bit. I have experience with Deca, started out at 300 mg/week and increased up to 600 with no sides. I also have experience with Tren, started out at 225mg week and increased up to 525 mg with 700mg mast and 400mg test with little sides except the occasional tren sweats but nothing too severe.

I seem to have a pretty good tolerance for AAS and in my experience I have to push the doses up to see results. All gear I’ve used has been Geneza Pharm from Naps so I know it’s legit. My question is where should I start with a test EQ cycle for my next blast. I am thinking 1000 test 800 eq and is there anything else I should run alongside.

Thanks Evo fam.

@Mr.GoodKat been following your other log: https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...deca-napsgear-geneza-pharma-cycle-log.100282/ you're looking amazing making progress but havent seen any updates in a while
can you update us in the LOG man? some pics and so on please

on the EQ, depends when you plan to use it. 1000mgs of test 800mgs of eq is crazy doses really not needed for a guy your size with the little time you have. If you were super active, hitting the gym 2 hours a day and many log updates, we can see you want to level up but for now you should stay the same 5-700mgs level total for all gear imo.
I suggest 300mgs equipoise 300mgs testosterone next cycle if you keep the same level of dedication we've seen.

what are you doing between cycles? bridge or self trt?

 

[rizzlekdizzle]

I listened to the podcast and they suggest anywhere between 300-600 EQ and low to moderate test dose should be great @(200-<500) - that's what I'm going to do for my nest cycle after my current test+deca cycle. Obviously this is a lean bulk so you want to have your BF% down to take advantage of this.

 

[Mr.GoodKat]

@Mr.GoodKat been following your other log: https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...deca-napsgear-geneza-pharma-cycle-log.100282/ you're looking amazing making progress but havent seen any updates in a while
can you update us in the LOG man? some pics and so on please

on the EQ, depends when you plan to use it. 1000mgs of test 800mgs of eq is crazy doses really not needed for a guy your size with the little time you have. If you were super active, hitting the gym 2 hours a day and many log updates, we can see you want to level up but for now you should stay the same 5-700mgs level total for all gear imo.
I suggest 300mgs equipoise 300mgs testosterone next cycle if you keep the same level of dedication we've seen.

what are you doing between cycles? bridge or self trt?

I’m on trt. I will do my 200mg a week dose until my next cycle. I have ran 1000mg test deca no sides at all and 1500 test tren mast with very little sides. I think I may just not respond to lower doses very well. Yea I’ll update my log this weekend when I get a chance to take pictures.

 

[Mr.GoodKat]

I listened to the podcast and they suggest anywhere between 300-600 EQ and low to moderate test dose should be great @(200-<500) - that's what I'm going to do for my nest cycle after my current test+deca cycle. Obviously this is a lean bulk so you want to have your BF% down to take advantage of this.

Yea I’ve heard both sides of the spectrum depending on how you amortize. Some say to run eq at 80% of your test dose so you don’t crush your estrogen while others say run eq higher. I think it’s all dependent on estrogen conversion.

 

[stevesmi]

I don't understand the dosing on the gear. EQ + Test at almost 2grams.

thats for people who are competing as powerlifters at high levels

 

[Eddie Haskell]

I’m on trt. I will do my 200mg a week dose until my next cycle. I have ran 1000mg test deca no sides at all and 1500 test tren mast with very little sides. I think I may just not respond to lower doses very well. Yea I’ll update my log this weekend when I get a chance to take pictures.

@Mr.GoodKat to be honest looking at your and your log, as I said before, you dont need to use so much gear.

You said you ran 1000mgs of test deca, what brand? did you test the gear?

If you want to run such high doses, seems you're not as dedicated based on what I see in your Log man no hard feelings you still have EVO family support
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...deca-napsgear-geneza-pharma-cycle-log.100282/

 

[Mr.GoodKat]

@Mr.GoodKat to be honest looking at your and your log, as I said before, you dont need to use so much gear.

You said you ran 1000mgs of test deca, what brand? did you test the gear?

If you want to run such high doses, seems you're not as dedicated based on what I see in your Log man no hard feelings you still have EVO family support
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...deca-napsgear-geneza-pharma-cycle-log.100282/

Not dedicated to what? Posting on the log. I workout 5 days a week 2-3 hours and do 60-90 minutes of cardio a day. I ran 600 Test and 400 Deca didn’t test it because it’s from an “approved” source. Geneva Pharm from Nsps Gear. Diet is in check, I have experienced zero sides, I just don’t think I respond well

 

[Mr.GoodKat]

I don't understand the dosing on the gear. EQ + Test at almost 2grams.

thats for people who are competing as powerlifters at high levels

I just don’t think I respond well. I’m running a gram of test and deca total right now and haven’t seen the results many get. I workout 5 days with plenty of volume and do cardio 60-90 minutes a day. Diet is in check, meal prep and have macros dialed.

 

[Mr.GoodKat]

@Mr.GoodKat to be honest looking at your and your log, as I said before, you dont need to use so much gear.

You said you ran 1000mgs of test deca, what brand? did you test the gear?

If you want to run such high doses, seems you're not as dedicated based on what I see in your Log man no hard feelings you still have EVO family support
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...deca-napsgear-geneza-pharma-cycle-log.100282/

To be honest you’re the Maine reason that I don’t post much. You obviously haven’t paid attention to my log if you’re having to
ask me questions regarding gear and dosages so you have zero reason to question my dedication when you don’t even know the basics

 

[abz.dwbro]

I've run EQ at lower dose before.
My current cycle is the first time I've blasted it.

600 EQ Cyp at 400 test.

I bumped the test up to 600 around week 4-6.

Got bloods at week 8, oestradiol was 26.

To put that in perspective I usually pull about 200 oestradiol cruising 200-300 test.

I've dropped the EQ to 400 to try and get oestradiol up to 60-80.

If I retest and it's still low I'll drop it to 300.

So test EQ ratio of 3:2 - 2:1.

 

[Mr.GoodKat]

I've run EQ at lower dose before.
My current cycle is the first time I've blasted it.

600 EQ Cyp at 400 test.

I bumped the test up to 600 around week 4-6.

Got bloods at week 8, oestradiol was 26.

To put that in perspective I usually pull about 200 oestradiol cruising 200-300 test.

I've dropped the EQ to 400 to try and get oestradiol up to 60-80.

If I retest and it's still low I'll drop it to 300.

So test EQ ratio of 3:2 - 2:1.

That’s what I’ve heard to run it at 5:3 or 3:2 to keep your estrogen elevated enough. What are your gains like compared to other cycles you’ve ran?

 

[rizzlekdizzle]

what's your physical condition now? 2-3hr workouts and that much cardio everyday seems like a massive amount of effort - are you training to compete or something? As some of the others are saying the doses are massive - like into competition type stacks but I guess you know your body??

 

[abz.dwbro]

That’s what I’ve heard to run it at 5:3 or 3:2 to keep your estrogen elevated enough. What are your gains like compared to other cycles you’ve ran?

Hard to gauge.

1. I've been blasting and cruising for a few years now.

2. I came out of covid almost starting from scratch again.

So the first couple of BnCs capitalising on muscle memory, I just blew back up.

Now I'm at the stage I'm kinda just balancing out weak points and recomping.

Also running a therapeutic dose of 200mg deca for the joints, and a bit of Tren because I love Tren.

I'm about 5kg (11lb) up in 10 weeks.

Which is slower progress than I'm used to.

But my recovery this cycle has been shit, not enough sleep, too much stress, nutrition isn't always what it should be.

I haven't measured bodyfat since beginning of the cycle, but visually the changes look to be headed in the right direction, thicker, harder, more vascular.

 

[Mr.GoodKat]

what's your physical condition now? 2-3hr workouts and that much cardio everyday seems like a massive amount of effort - are you training to compete or something? As some of the others are saying the doses are massive - like into competition type stacks but I guess you know your body??

I’m just hyper focused on getting my body where I know it can be. I’m not sure if that’s a massive dose or a high dose. I honestly don’t feel much until I get around a gram of total gear. So I came here for input on what I could push knowing we and test is a relatively mild combo. I’ve ran 525 Tren with 400 test and 700 mast and could start to tell at that point I was on a cycle

 

[Mr.GoodKat]

Hard to gauge.

1. I've been blasting and cruising for a few years now.

2. I came out of covid almost starting from scratch again.

So the first couple of BnCs capitalising on muscle memory, I just blew back up.

Now I'm at the stage I'm kinda just balancing out weak points and recomping.

Also running a therapeutic dose of 200mg deca for the joints, and a bit of Tren because I love Tren.

I'm about 5kg (11lb) up in 10 weeks.

Which is slower progress than I'm used to.

But my recovery this cycle has been shit, not enough sleep, too much stress, nutrition isn't always what it should be.

I haven't measured bodyfat since beginning of the cycle, but visually the changes look to be headed in the right direction, thicker, harder, more vascular.

Nice to hear. I love Tren too but have only ran it once. I’m early in my PED journey but I really like the effects it does to my composition and I can handle it well. You just going to sprinkle in some teen towards the end for composition?

 

[abz.dwbro]

Nice to hear. I love Tren too but have only ran it once. I’m early in my PED journey but I really like the effects it does to my composition and I can handle it well. You just going to sprinkle in some teen towards the end for composition?

Ran it from week 1.

I can handle 12-16 weeks no worries.

When I drop the Tren I might run the last 6 weeks out on some var.

 

[Mr.GoodKat]

Ran it from week 1.

I can handle 12-16 weeks no worries.

When I drop the Tren I might run the last 6 weeks out on some var.

Nice man I’m definitely going to check out your log. I was actually thinking about something similar. How does your body react to var? I’ve heard some people don’t respond and other hyper respond there is no real middle ground. I’ve never ran it before

 

[RoidRage69]

You're not training properly. That is why you're not having the great results. Your cycle of 700 mast, 400 test, and 500 Tren make zero sense.

 

[Mr.GoodKat]

You're not training properly. That is why you're not having the great results. Your cycle of 700 mast, 400 test, and 500 Tren make zero sense.

You have no idea what I train, and what my results are. You’re a typical forum keyboard striker that chimes in with zero knowledge and pukes nonsense.