I need help with the e2

[bear.okn]

Hey guys I’m new here. I’ve been running 12 weeks 500mg test e and got my blood work done. I’m currently getting acne’s on my back and face. Is my e2 levels so low ? I was taking 1.5 mg/w armidex for 2 weeks and I stopped. And also my heart beats so irregular. If you guys have some idea I would like to listen. Thank you

 

[stevesmi]

low estrogen wouldn't cause heart beat issues, atleast i've never heard of that

 

[bear.okn]

low estrogen wouldn't cause heart beat issues, atleast i've never heard of that

Thank you for your reply! Is it too low ?

 

[Eddie Haskell]

Hey guys I’m new here. I’ve been running 12 weeks 500mg test e and got my blood work done. I’m currently getting acne’s on my back and face. Is my e2 levels so low ? I was taking 1.5 mg/w armidex for 2 weeks and I stopped. And also my heart beats so irregular. If you guys have some idea I would like to listen. Thank you

@bear.okn 1.5mgs arimidex is a LOT thats the problem, you're killing yourself with low estrogen. And are you taking organ liver support like n2guard? you need that for your heart asap.

Also, whats your situation with diet training? if you are overtraining you can cause estrogen issues and estrogenic foods can seriously give you gyno and cause long term sides. That problem @bear.okn is we know NOTHING about you like nothing I dont even know what what gear you use, what you eat, what you train like when you take your sleep etc, this is bad and we can't guess.

If you dont want to end up in the hospital and you want our help, we need to see your LOG asap to guide you properly on this cycle.

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[Eddie Haskell]

Thank you for your reply! Is it too low ?

@bear.okn low estrogen is VERY dangerous thats why we are asking you to post your LOG asap

Low endogenous estradiol levels are associated with elevated risk of cardiovascular disease mortality in young and middle-aged men

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36210243/

 

[stevesmi]

Thank you for your reply! Is it too low ?

from what i am reading it says < meaning we don't know the number.

 

[bear.okn]

I’m having really bad times with my heart thank you so much I’m going to log right now

 

[Eddie Haskell]

I’m having really bad times with my heart thank you so much I’m going to log right now

@bear.okn add to the log your face blurred picture too

and go measure your blood pressure and pulse and post it in the log
including diet training of course NOT just 1 day but we need you to keep posting for a few weeks

 

[Eddie Haskell]

@bear.okn posted a new log perfect start
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...mg-testosterone-enanthate-12-weeks-log.95583/

 

[RoidRage69]

@bear.okn low estrogen is VERY dangerous thats why we are asking you to post your LOG asap



https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36210243/

One reason I dont take anti estrogens.

 

[Eddie Haskell]

One reason I dont take anti estrogens.

@RoidRage69 thats incorrect thinking, HIGH estrogen levels can cause serious complications, even MORE than low estrogen E2 levels. High estrogen has even been linked to death.

Elevated endogenous estrogens have been associated with death in medical and mixed surgical intensive care unit (ICU) patients.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2654263/

 

[LittleTimeTrouble]

That’s not really how I read that study. There is nothing indicating that estrogen causes death, and even some inference that in the presence of severe trauma, estrogen rushes in because it is a body protective substance. I am not anti AI, but I think they should be avoided if you can do so. In general, I also think that estrogen levels that are high without causing notable side effects are likely both anabolic and heart and brain protective.

You don’t want to be running around with active gyno, but I think you want to err on the side of estrogen being high. So I guess I agree with @RoidRage69 here. It’s just so much easier to take as much test as your body does well with, and then add DHT based substances after that.

 

[RoidRage69]

@RoidRage69 thats incorrect thinking, HIGH estrogen levels can cause serious complications, even MORE than low estrogen E2 levels. High estrogen has even been linked to death.



https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2654263/

I have normal estrogen levels. I don’t take high enough dosages to be out of normal range.

 

[meathead2019]

normal e2 is 20-30 units. good luck consistently keeping things in that range. aromatizing compounds are mainly test, dbol, MENT. not saying others dont convert but those are the most well known ones. letrozole too harsh at controlling e2. aromasin is harsh in the sense that if you crash e2 with it, it takes WAY longer to come back up than with arimidex. thats why i like arimidex the best in the liquid form so its easier to dose. only 2 real dangers to low e2 are bone thinning and low serotonin which can cause anxiety/depression symptoms. high e2 more linked to cardiovascular issues and even cancer.

 

[Eddie Haskell]

I have normal estrogen levels. I don’t take high enough dosages to be out of normal range.

@RoidRage69 you have blood work with normal estrogen e2 to show this? please share because I didn't see it in your log
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roidrage69-log.90127

 

[Eddie Haskell]

normal e2 is 20-30 units. good luck consistently keeping things in that range. aromatizing compounds are mainly test, dbol, MENT. not saying others dont convert but those are the most well known ones. letrozole too harsh at controlling e2. aromasin is harsh in the sense that if you crash e2 with it, it takes WAY longer to come back up than with arimidex. thats why i like arimidex the best in the liquid form so its easier to dose. only 2 real dangers to low e2 are bone thinning and low serotonin which can cause anxiety/depression symptoms. high e2 more linked to cardiovascular issues and even cancer.

@meathead2019 liquid arimidex is the WORST thing you can use if you want accurate doses, liquidex, because inconsistent dosing will be an issue immediately, 1 ml will be 1mg and next 1ml will be 2mgs it's real dangerous

 

[meathead2019]

@meathead2019 liquid arimidex is the WORST thing you can use if you want accurate doses, liquidex, because inconsistent dosing will be an issue immediately, 1 ml will be 1mg and next 1ml will be 2mgs it's real dangerous

depending on the source...lol

 

[Mobster]

One reason I dont take anti estrogens.

That's not entirely accurate for the many reasons we've discussed

 

[Quadsweep]

you need estrogen levels to be balanced
bloodwork is important to do that.
you need to balance it out

 

[BodyMonster34]

bro if yo get into emergency then slam down estrogen with letro
yo don't want bitch tits lol

 

[JasonPriest]

well your estrogen here isn't high. that we know for sure
speculating from here i would say your heart issues are something to monitor

 

[MONSTRO]

don't ignore your heart, my guy i train with ended up getting a stroke at 35. he ran too much gear and look what happened

 

[Vadim Fedorov]

there are respected studies showing low estrogen is very bad
there are also studies showing high estrogen is bad too
you need it in the middle

 

[2Thick]

n2guard is the GOAT on heart health
and you need to get this logged immediately so we can track you properly

 

[e2]

the next step for you is logging this immediately
the sooner you log it the better
and go to the doctor !

 

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[Ulter]

you need to go to the doctor man if your heart is acting weird
hopefully it is just something minor, maybe you are anxious or nervous
don't lie to them about your gear use either
and make sure you log!

 

[chesty]

get your blood pressure checked. go buy a bp monitor you can do it
and log that day to day, lets see the changes

 

[ROIDDERS]

do not kill your estrogen ever. that isn't good
keep your estrogen normal. can you log this and test bloods again in 2-3 weeks

 

[ceo]

bros you will be okay. maybe you just nervous and heart acting weird

talk to doctor and get full check up. and then log this

 

[25homes]

cut back on arimedex

 

[ballin2504]

That’s why pre mid and post cycle blood work is so important

 

[LittleTimeTrouble]

cut back on arimedex

People need to show much more respect for these drugs. In almost every sense, they are stronger than the AAS you are taking.

 

[Topps_Baseball88]

I've never gone over 1mg a week of Arimidex than again I don't run anything super high so offen times I don't need AI

 

[Masonic Bodybuilder]

You just require less of an AI than some other people. This is where trial and error comes into play with AI doses.