New member. Advise with stack

[mynameissean123]

Hey everyone, I’m Sean, new to this forum. Looking for advise from someone other than my buddy who’s in great shape, but might not know what’s best.

I’m looking to start my first primo cycle. Was told to order from steriodswarehouse.com, so I did and tested it with a roidtest — the results came back darker than what the Roidtest color chart suggests. I’m ordering another test kit, incase I messed up.

Been on 180mg test c for 6 months, consistent with my diet, not drinking at all, using some peptides recently and have been seeing great results. My blood test are all within range.

I plan on running a 16 week cycle of 250mg test, 200mg primo for 4 week, 300mg 4 weeks, 400mg 4 weeks and finishing it off with 350mg 4 weeks. As well as HCG, BPC157/TB500 and 1mg a week of Reta.

I’m 5’8 181 pounds — My goal is to be 190lbs solid. Hoping I can get a little guidance on if this is a good safe stack to move forward with, if I should throw away the primo I purchased from steroidswarehouse? If so, where can I get good primo from?

Thanks in advance.

 

[Mobster]

Don't know that source at all.

ALL the sources on Evo have checked out. My preferred picks are: PSL, NapsGear or UGFreak

 

[s.gentz]

Hey everyone, I’m Sean, new to this forum. Looking for advise from someone other than my buddy who’s in great shape, but might not know what’s best.

I’m looking to start my first primo cycle. Was told to order from steriodswarehouse.com, so I did and tested it with a roidtest — the results came back darker than what the Roidtest color chart suggests. I’m ordering another test kit, incase I messed up.

Been on 180mg test c for 6 months, consistent with my diet, not drinking at all, using some peptides recently and have been seeing great results. My blood test are all within range.

I plan on running a 16 week cycle of 250mg test, 200mg primo for 4 week, 300mg 4 weeks, 400mg 4 weeks and finishing it off with 350mg 4 weeks. As well as HCG, BPC157/TB500 and 1mg a week of Reta.

I’m 5’8 181 pounds — My goal is to be 190lbs solid. Hoping I can get a little guidance on if this is a good safe stack to move forward with, if I should throw away the primo I purchased from steroidswarehouse? If so, where can I get good primo from?

Thanks in advance. View attachment 137088

@mynameissean123
Welcome to Evo!!!
Pic looks great. Your def on the right track.
First off, ditch the primo and use one of the sources in the banners above. They all have great products.
Second, you don't need to change gear doses as you go. Start/finish with the same dose. Everytime you change doses it takes weeks to saturate your blood at the new level.
This is how I would run it.
Week 1-16
Test-250mg/wk
Primo-300mg/wk
Or an alternate cycle which I prefer and have gotten great results with. Will also prob be much cheaper
Week 1-16
Test 150mg/wk
Deca 150mg/wk
EQ 300mg/wk
AI on hand
50mg/day Anadrol mid cycle when lifts stall. Run for 5 weeks.

 

[LevButlerov]

Hey everyone, I’m Sean, new to this forum. Looking for advise from someone other than my buddy who’s in great shape, but might not know what’s best.

I’m looking to start my first primo cycle. Was told to order from steriodswarehouse.com, so I did and tested it with a roidtest — the results came back darker than what the Roidtest color chart suggests. I’m ordering another test kit, incase I messed up.

Been on 180mg test c for 6 months, consistent with my diet, not drinking at all, using some peptides recently and have been seeing great results. My blood test are all within range.

I plan on running a 16 week cycle of 250mg test, 200mg primo for 4 week, 300mg 4 weeks, 400mg 4 weeks and finishing it off with 350mg 4 weeks. As well as HCG, BPC157/TB500 and 1mg a week of Reta.

I’m 5’8 181 pounds — My goal is to be 190lbs solid. Hoping I can get a little guidance on if this is a good safe stack to move forward with, if I should throw away the primo I purchased from steroidswarehouse? If so, where can I get good primo from?

Thanks in advance. View attachment 137088

welcome to the EVO family @mynameissean123
You look good and lean in the pics, strong foundation to start with.
That primo plan is fine but it's hard to say if fine for you. we dont know much about you tbh.

If the roidtest looks off, don’t risk it, that source has mixed reviews either way. Stick to trusted EVO approved suppliers, did you look at our list of approved suppliers?
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/forums/approved-sources.118/

Start a full log before you begin the cycle with weekly updates on weight, strength and foods. It helps track progress and the EVO family can guide you better along the way. 10min to start your log first.

HOW-TO LOG?

Why is a Log Journal important?

• Doing a log will actually help you way more than just dropping random updates. When you lay it all out week by week you start to see patterns in your body that you won’t catch otherwise.
• Other guys here run logs all the time and there’s no privacy issue, nobody is asking for your name or anything personal, it is just training, diet, and how the compound feels.
• The feedback you get is also way better because people can follow along and spot things you might miss. It also helps the next guy who is thinking about running the same compound so you are giving back while you learn.
• Even if you think you might not stick with it, just starting the log makes it easier to come back and add quick notes. That way you get more out of what you are running instead of keeping it all in your head.

To really guide you we need more info from you:

• Please share your diet, training, cardio, sleep, supplements etc log with us in a NEW thread, full log journal so our guidance is based on facts you provide.
• It will take 15-20 minutes max.
• We have 100s of years of experience between us, so you need to post a LOG Journal with your stats (weight,height,age, years training, cycle history) diet, training, cardio, supplement, sleep details. If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.
• Please post a Log Journal asap for us

Please click the anabolic forum
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/forums/anabolic-steroids-and-peds.2/
top RIGHT, you see: +POST THREAD
click that

in Title: write your cycle name, like> My _____ Cycle Log
___ = the name of your log
example: My testosterone cycle Log
in body: write your planned cycle or cycle you doing now, your diet, training and we will help you along on your cycle

here are examples of LOG Journals
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/first-testosterone-cycle-log.104133/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/sustanon-trenomast-deca-dbol-cycle-journal.105881/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-2025-26-growth-phase-log-with-psl.106514/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...var-bpc157-beligas-pharmaqo-cycle-log.104843/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...g-log-sponsored-by-purity-source-labs.103669/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...erone-cycle-and-beginner-training-log.106310/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/average-trt-back-to-savage-cycle-journal.106252
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...-testosterone-masteron-primobolan-deca.105348
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...odybuilding-log-masters-55-competitor.102611/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...ron-npp-tren-anadrol-log-to-stage-2025.102590

P.S. are you listening to our podcast? if not, you should; this podcast is about steroids, sarms, peptides, and bodybuilding:
https://www.evolutionary.org/podcasts/
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/evolutionary-bodybuilding-radio/id1798623410
https://open.spotify.com/show/53q1RFTgG4h6TQHsJ4xY6Z

P.P.S. download our eBooks and learn more:
https://irongorillas.com


@BeMe @HarleyGuy @vanlife_gymbum @toddthelineman @Allupfromhere @Pigsy @s.gentz @Dreamer

 

[Pigsy]

welcome to the EVO family @mynameissean123
You look good and lean in the pics, strong foundation to start with.
That primo plan is fine but it's hard to say if fine for you. we dont know much about you tbh.

If the roidtest looks off, don’t risk it, that source has mixed reviews either way. Stick to trusted EVO approved suppliers, did you look at our list of approved suppliers?
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/forums/approved-sources.118/

Start a full log before you begin the cycle with weekly updates on weight, strength and foods. It helps track progress and the EVO family can guide you better along the way. 10min to start your log first.

HOW-TO LOG?

Why is a Log Journal important?

• Doing a log will actually help you way more than just dropping random updates. When you lay it all out week by week you start to see patterns in your body that you won’t catch otherwise.
• Other guys here run logs all the time and there’s no privacy issue, nobody is asking for your name or anything personal, it is just training, diet, and how the compound feels.
• The feedback you get is also way better because people can follow along and spot things you might miss. It also helps the next guy who is thinking about running the same compound so you are giving back while you learn.
• Even if you think you might not stick with it, just starting the log makes it easier to come back and add quick notes. That way you get more out of what you are running instead of keeping it all in your head.

To really guide you we need more info from you:

• Please share your diet, training, cardio, sleep, supplements etc log with us in a NEW thread, full log journal so our guidance is based on facts you provide.
• It will take 15-20 minutes max.
• We have 100s of years of experience between us, so you need to post a LOG Journal with your stats (weight,height,age, years training, cycle history) diet, training, cardio, supplement, sleep details. If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.
• Please post a Log Journal asap for us

Please click the anabolic forum
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/forums/anabolic-steroids-and-peds.2/
top RIGHT, you see: +POST THREAD
click that

in Title: write your cycle name, like> My _____ Cycle Log
___ = the name of your log
example: My testosterone cycle Log
in body: write your planned cycle or cycle you doing now, your diet, training and we will help you along on your cycle

here are examples of LOG Journals
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/first-testosterone-cycle-log.104133/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/sustanon-trenomast-deca-dbol-cycle-journal.105881/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-2025-26-growth-phase-log-with-psl.106514/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...var-bpc157-beligas-pharmaqo-cycle-log.104843/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...g-log-sponsored-by-purity-source-labs.103669/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...erone-cycle-and-beginner-training-log.106310/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/average-trt-back-to-savage-cycle-journal.106252
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...-testosterone-masteron-primobolan-deca.105348
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...odybuilding-log-masters-55-competitor.102611/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...ron-npp-tren-anadrol-log-to-stage-2025.102590

P.S. are you listening to our podcast? if not, you should; this podcast is about steroids, sarms, peptides, and bodybuilding:
https://www.evolutionary.org/podcasts/
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/evolutionary-bodybuilding-radio/id1798623410
https://open.spotify.com/show/53q1RFTgG4h6TQHsJ4xY6Z

P.P.S. download our eBooks and learn more:
https://irongorillas.com


@BeMe @HarleyGuy @vanlife_gymbum @toddthelineman @Allupfromhere @Pigsy @s.gentz @Dreamer

Welcome brother, will be following you log when you start

 

[vanlife_gymbum]

Another consideration is there seems to be a global shortage of Primobolan at the moment and you might not be able to get more to continue if you don't have enough or if it's fake.

 

[HarleyGuy]

@mynameissean123 Welcome Sean to EVO brother! You came to right place and you were wise to not just go by what "buddy" said. You look fantastic and have a really solid looking base to run a clean bulk cycle like you want to do.

The VIP's and MODS will take care of you here. As @LevButlerov said we really need you to start a log to give you the best advice and allow us to follow you along all the way to 190lbs and beyond. Trust me when I say joining this forum changed my physique and my life.

@s.gentz 's cycle makes a lot more sense for you for now. Having said that I always give this advice to young guys like you:


Your cycle should be organized in this order especially if you plan on having kids one day and at your age:

1. PCT (after steroid usage how can you come off in a healthy way to get your natural test and hormones back up and running)
2. Diet (it will help for us to see you have this dialed in with macros and calories)
3. Training (we need to make sure you're training is consistent and proper and can help if it needs adjusting)
4. Steroids (then, if you trust this forum which you should, we will get you squared away with the correct cycle for your goals)

I noticed you mentioned peptides so it sounds like you know what you're doing but in case you're looking for tips and tricks we have a peptide thread here: https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/how-to-mix-peptides.107113/

Some things that stuck out to me:

Was told to order from steriodswarehouse.com

Whoever told you this doesn't know the history of different sources. They are hit or miss. For years I had stuff tested through my father-in-law (chemist) and I figured out who was legit, who was bunk, and who was hit or miss. New brands keep popping up so now it's unreasonable to even bother trying. Stick to trust approved sources off this website (EVO) and you'll have peace of mind it's legit, pure, sterile, and properly dosed gear.

I’m ordering another test kit, incase I messed up.

Don't waste your money on roidtest. Just order from sources on here that have been approved, tested and are trusted.

the results came back darker than what the Roidtest color chart suggests

Which part? The "B" column or the "D" column? The D part is all the same colour in the end EXCEPT for primoE which does darken over time and goes from light brown to dark brown at around the 2-3 minute mark, all the rest are the standard purples in the D column. PrimoA will have no D column reaction.

Your biggest worry should be the "B" column because PrimoA vs. PrimoE are two very different colours (I've used these kits before and they suck ass and are unreliable in general). PrimoA ought NOT change colours from A to B before the 15-minute mark, whereas PrimoE should change from the standard brown reaction in A to more of an orange in column B (and certainly not be darker than column A) before the 15-minute mark has passed. Having said that, all of them will darken over time if you don't check within that 15-minute window.

If it's orals crushed up then you can use too much sample and it will darken the test and you're fucked. They're that unreliable.

As well as HCG

Get rid of this. It's just an estrogen booster with a side effect of bigger balls. You can mayyybe use it for your PCT which we should discuss before we decide on your cycle.

It's great to you with us brother you look amazing I'm looking forward to following your gains!

 

[vanlife_gymbum]

Don't know that source at all.

ALL the sources on Evo have checked out. My preferred picks are: PSL, NapsGear or UGFreak

Thanks @Mobster - I'm using your list of preferred brands and sources and hopefully will have some Euro Pharma gear soon

 

[Dreamer]

Hey man,
I ran a primo cycle with 400 test, 600 primo and the results were pretty good, gained a real noticeable amount of size and strength, consider adding NPP also though, it added a huge amount to my cycle and because its a fast acting ester you can pull it out very quick if sides appear.

Second thing is just be careful with Primo, it is very hard to find at the moment and you may not be getting that.

 

[Allupfromhere]

Hey everyone, I’m Sean, new to this forum. Looking for advise from someone other than my buddy who’s in great shape, but might not know what’s best.

I’m looking to start my first primo cycle. Was told to order from steriodswarehouse.com, so I did and tested it with a roidtest — the results came back darker than what the Roidtest color chart suggests. I’m ordering another test kit, incase I messed up.

Been on 180mg test c for 6 months, consistent with my diet, not drinking at all, using some peptides recently and have been seeing great results. My blood test are all within range.

I plan on running a 16 week cycle of 250mg test, 200mg primo for 4 week, 300mg 4 weeks, 400mg 4 weeks and finishing it off with 350mg 4 weeks. As well as HCG, BPC157/TB500 and 1mg a week of Reta.

I’m 5’8 181 pounds — My goal is to be 190lbs solid. Hoping I can get a little guidance on if this is a good safe stack to move forward with, if I should throw away the primo I purchased from steroidswarehouse? If so, where can I get good primo from?

Thanks in advance. View attachment 137088

Welcome brother you look great!! The boys have got you covered with everything so far.
Just another bump for it though, stick to our approved vendore here on evo, they're are trusted and proven and you know what your getting.

Keen to see you fire up a logs so we can follow your journey legend. With a baseline like that your in a perfect position for a killer cycle

 

[mynameissean123]

@mynameissean123 Welcome Sean to EVO brother! You came to right place and you were wise to not just go by what "buddy" said. You look fantastic and have a really solid looking base to run a clean bulk cycle like you want to do.

The VIP's and MODS will take care of you here. As @LevButlerov said we really need you to start a log to give you the best advice and allow us to follow you along all the way to 190lbs and beyond. Trust me when I say joining this forum changed my physique and my life.

@s.gentz 's cycle makes a lot more sense for you for now. Having said that I always give this advice to young guys like you:


Your cycle should be organized in this order especially if you plan on having kids one day and at your age:

1. PCT (after steroid usage how can you come off in a healthy way to get your natural test and hormones back up and running)
2. Diet (it will help for us to see you have this dialed in with macros and calories)
3. Training (we need to make sure you're training is consistent and proper and can help if it needs adjusting)
4. Steroids (then, if you trust this forum which you should, we will get you squared away with the correct cycle for your goals)

I noticed you mentioned peptides so it sounds like you know what you're doing but in case you're looking for tips and tricks we have a peptide thread here: https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/how-to-mix-peptides.107113/

Some things that stuck out to me:


Whoever told you this doesn't know the history of different sources. They are hit or miss. For years I had stuff tested through my father-in-law (chemist) and I figured out who was legit, who was bunk, and who was hit or miss. New brands keep popping up so now it's unreasonable to even bother trying. Stick to trust approved sources off this website (EVO) and you'll have peace of mind it's legit, pure, sterile, and properly dosed gear.

Don't waste your money on roidtest. Just order from sources on here that have been approved, tested and are trusted.


Which part? The "B" column or the "D" column? The D part is all the same colour in the end EXCEPT for primoE which does darken over time and goes from light brown to dark brown at around the 2-3 minute mark, all the rest are the standard purples in the D column. PrimoA will have no D column reaction.

Your biggest worry should be the "B" column because PrimoA vs. PrimoE are two very different colours (I've used these kits before and they suck ass and are unreliable in general). PrimoA ought NOT change colours from A to B before the 15-minute mark, whereas PrimoE should change from the standard brown reaction in A to more of an orange in column B (and certainly not be darker than column A) before the 15-minute mark has passed. Having said that, all of them will darken over time if you don't check within that 15-minute window.

If it's orals crushed up then you can use too much sample and it will darken the test and you're fucked. They're that unreliable.

Get rid of this. It's just an estrogen booster with a side effect of bigger balls. You can mayyybe use it for your PCT which we should discuss before we decide on your cycle.

It's great to you with us brother you look amazing I'm looking forward to following your gains!

Bro, thank you so much for all that info. wow, you guys are awesome.

The column B was darker than what was on the card. Column D was almost black. I think I put too many drops in each test. Possibly 10 drops? May have sneezed and squeezed the needle a little.

With the peptides, I'm going very light dosage. Would not say I know a ton, so I will give that a read over. Thank you!

Should have mentioned, Im 37 years old, don't have kids yet but I do plan on having them in the future. Don't need to be the biggest guy in the room, just want to look better naked.

I just posted a log. Super excited for the feedback. Thank you all again.

https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-first-primo-cycle-log.107447/

 

[LevButlerov]

Bro, thank you so much for all that info. wow, you guys are awesome.

The column B was darker than what was on the card. Column D was almost black. I think I put too many drops in each test. Possibly 10 drops? May have sneezed and squeezed the needle a little.

With the peptides, I'm going very light dosage. Would not say I know a ton, so I will give that a read over. Thank you!

Should have mentioned, Im 37 years old, don't have kids yet but I do plan on having them in the future. Don't need to be the biggest guy in the room, just want to look better naked.

I just posted a log. Super excited for the feedback. Thank you all again.

https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-first-primo-cycle-log.107447/

your log is fully approved now @mynameissean123
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-testosterone-primobolan-cycle-log.107447

 

[rizzlekdizzle]

I would be a bit concerned that your Primo is not Primo - very hard to source atm.

 

[LevButlerov]

I would be a bit concerned that your Primo is not Primo - very hard to source atm.

Fact right there.

 

[BeMe]

Hey everyone, I’m Sean, new to this forum. Looking for advise from someone other than my buddy who’s in great shape, but might not know what’s best.

I’m looking to start my first primo cycle. Was told to order from steriodswarehouse.com, so I did and tested it with a roidtest — the results came back darker than what the Roidtest color chart suggests. I’m ordering another test kit, incase I messed up.

Been on 180mg test c for 6 months, consistent with my diet, not drinking at all, using some peptides recently and have been seeing great results. My blood test are all within range.

I plan on running a 16 week cycle of 250mg test, 200mg primo for 4 week, 300mg 4 weeks, 400mg 4 weeks and finishing it off with 350mg 4 weeks. As well as HCG, BPC157/TB500 and 1mg a week of Reta.

I’m 5’8 181 pounds — My goal is to be 190lbs solid. Hoping I can get a little guidance on if this is a good safe stack to move forward with, if I should throw away the primo I purchased from steroidswarehouse? If so, where can I get good primo from?

Thanks in advance. View attachment 137088

Hey bro welcome to the forum. Great starting physique.

If I had to guess you did your roidtest right and the primo is fake. Not familiar with the source you mentioned.

Primo is tough to get right now. We have an approved sources you can checkout for your country and you may find some real stuff if you're lucky.

If not then just run EQ instead.