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that particular blood work is showing you the maximum
it won't show you a minimum because in some situations there is no minimum amount of estrogen
 
I’m looking at the link @stevesmi shared to choose a panel for quarterly blood tests. Anyone use this and can advise which panel is the one to get?. Seems like the Men’s Light Panel is missing important info and the Medium has a bunch of extras.
 
oh I think you're confused on the blood work
the conversions and the metrics are different is why
Ah I figured I was off some place. I just didn’t understand how my number was low when it was over double the high end of the range I was seeing online.
 
if you keep your test so slow you won't need an AI especially with Primo
but anything above 300 or 400 mg of tests then yes you need an AI
 
Primo does do a good job of dropping estrogen
but not enough depending on how much testosterone you use
 
if you don't need an AI then don't stack it
bloods will tell you the truth
 
So the plan is a 10-12 week cycle of 100 a week of test and 300 primo pinned 2x a week.

Everything from my original post will remain as far as diet (plus more omega 3’s), training, and cycle support.

Supplements
7 n2Guard daily
15 g of fish oil
400 mg dim
Spore Pro/prebiotic
1-2 servings of psyllium husk powder

Will update my training daily and will post before photos and stats this weekend. Planning on starting Monday.

Anything I’m missing before getting started?
AI and a planned PCT
 
Ok I appreciate everyone’s help but I am more confused than ever at this point. Can anyone tell me if this total estrogen level is high or low? IMG_4010.webp

If it's low would a ratio of 300 test 200 primo be what I'm looking for. My test levels are only in the mid to high 600's on TRT currently.

If it's high I am thinking 150 test 250-300 primo to lower the estrogen levels.

Regardless, I am planning on getting bloodwork done four weeks in and again at the completion of the cycle. Would a light hormone panel be sufficient for the mid cycle bloodwork?

Thanks to the community for your support of a guy who wants to learn and wants to have a plan for what he puts in his body.
 
AI and a planned PCT
I have AI on hand and I plan on going back to TRT for PCT. My levels are naturally on the low end and I am infertile, so I have signed up for a life of TRT.
 
Ok I appreciate everyone’s help but I am more confused than ever at this point. Can anyone tell me if this total estrogen level is high or low? View attachment 62175

If it's low would a ratio of 300 test 200 primo be what I'm looking for. My test levels are only in the mid to high 600's on TRT currently.

If it's high I am thinking 150 test 250-300 primo to lower the estrogen levels.

Regardless, I am planning on getting bloodwork done four weeks in and again at the completion of the cycle. Would a light hormone panel be sufficient for the mid cycle bloodwork?

Thanks to the community for your support of a guy who wants to learn and wants to have a plan for what he puts in his body.
pg/mL should be around 10-50 just checked this @ajg223 you're HIGH estrogen not in green range
I dont understand why 404 is your range, you a dude right?

Do you have funds to redo this estrogen blood work right now?

Either way, I would start with 200mgs testosterone 300mgs primobolan and go from there.
 
I can redo the bloodwork. I can’t get a straight answer on which panel to get. The men’s hormone light or the medium?

Light
IMG_4011.webp
Medium
IMG_4012.webp
The medium is 2.5 times more expensive. Willing to pay if that's what's required but not looking to spend money I don't need to.
 
E2

So your E2 is high, but not overly, mine hits 145 without an AI or reducing Test (or adding primo! Check my Log) but everyone is different.

You're the one that has to make the call on what to do unfortunately. I think its fine, until you experince sides I'd wouldn't start trying to control your E2. You already have an AI on hand and that is a great start.

BLOODS

Do you know enought to make decisions based off the info shown on the blood panels? If so, then you know what to order.
If not, get a coach who can or you'll be unsure the entire time leading to a less than optimal experience.

CYCLE

Do your cycle, and adjust it based on bloods and sides, not bloods alone.

I'd go start 1:1 ratio of test:primo, moving to a higher primo to mitigate E2 as needed.

Plan a longer cycle with Primo, its not Tren, it takes time to work from what I have read.

Good luck mate we are all keen to see you succeed.
 
I can redo the bloodwork. I can’t get a straight answer on which panel to get. The men’s hormone light or the medium?

Light
View attachment 62206
Medium
View attachment 62207
The medium is 2.5 times more expensive. Willing to pay if that's what's required but not looking to spend money I don't need to.
@ajg223 get the light one, we just need estradiol redone and rest would be good to have too bro
dont get the expensive medium one
 
So the plan is a 10-12 week cycle of 100 a week of test and 300 primo pinned 2x a week.

Everything from my original post will remain as far as diet (plus more omega 3’s), training, and cycle support.

Supplements
7 n2Guard daily
15 g of fish oil
400 mg dim
Spore Pro/prebiotic
1-2 servings of psyllium husk powder

Will update my training daily and will post before photos and stats this weekend. Planning on starting Monday.

Anything I’m missing before getting started?
Not primo fan
 
Looks like the guys got ya covered. I’d up the primo
 
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