Approved Log Test and Primo Cycle Log

[Npcclassicphysique champ]

After some thought, I am going to push my cycle off for a few months. I am worried about the e2 crash with the primo and feel like I need to be at a lower body fat percentage for the mast. I am going to work on incorporating more cardio and HIIT training in an effort to lower body fat. Hoping in 2-3 months that my fat ass will be in a better spot to get the most out of the cycle.

Thats not the right path @ajg223 , you will NOT have an E2 crash with primobolan and you dont need lower bodyfat for masteron
you're getting caught up in the discussion too much
imo I would do the cycle asap and not stop

 

[ajg223]

So I just had my blood work done in preparation to start this cycle but my HDL came back at 33 when it says it should be above 40. I am not sure why it’s so low. I eat well and exercise.

I assume that this should have me hit the brakes on any plans for a cycle?

 

[juddy]

So I just had my blood work done in preparation to start this cycle but my HDL came back at 33 when it says it should be above 40. I am not sure why it’s so low. I eat well and exercise.

I assume that this should have me hit the brakes on any plans for a cycle?

What were your prior HDL levels? But I've no idea to be honest.

Common HDL drop in non AAS users can be hypertension and blood sugar levels being high. Dieretics too apparently.

Someone will know more.

 

[Eddie Haskell]

So I just had my blood work done in preparation to start this cycle but my HDL came back at 33 when it says it should be above 40. I am not sure why it’s so low. I eat well and exercise.

I assume that this should have me hit the brakes on any plans for a cycle?

I would not worry about cholesterol too much man its not a real factor for healthy guys like us
@ajg223 you have the tests? can you share please just blur personal info

 

[ajg223]

Here is the lipid, metabolic, and hepatic numbers.

 

[Eddie Haskell]

Here is the lipid, metabolic, and hepatic numbers.

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@ajg223 your cholesterol is fine no issues at all man that reading means nothing
just add some fish oil omega 3 fats and it will level you out

 

[ajg223]

My doctor doesn’t seem too concerned either. I sent them to her and she told me to take more fish oil and eat more nuts.

 

[Eddie Haskell]

My doctor doesn’t seem too concerned either. I sent them to her and she told me to take more fish oil and eat more nuts.

see same as what we say, fish oil and healthy omega 3 nuts walnuts so nothing to worry about lets cycle on man @ajg223

can you update some training?

 

[ajg223]

So the plan is a 10-12 week cycle of 100 a week of test and 300 primo pinned 2x a week.

Everything from my original post will remain as far as diet (plus more omega 3’s), training, and cycle support.

Supplements
7 n2Guard daily
15 g of fish oil
400 mg dim
Spore Pro/prebiotic
1-2 servings of psyllium husk powder

Will update my training daily and will post before photos and stats this weekend. Planning on starting Monday.

Anything I’m missing before getting started?

 

[AE1079]

So the plan is a 10-12 week cycle of 100 a week of test and 300 primo pinned 2x a week.

Everything from my original post will remain as far as diet (plus more omega 3’s), training, and cycle support.

Supplements
7 n2Guard daily
15 g of fish oil
400 mg dim
Spore Pro/prebiotic
1-2 servings of psyllium husk powder

Will update my training daily and will post before photos and stats this weekend. Planning on starting Monday.

Anything I’m missing before getting started?

What your E2?

Primo can crash E2, even at 1:1, running this higher then test will certainly do that.

Why is your test at 100mg and primo at 300mg?
Bloods are fine. Nothing to stress about. Will be worth having an infrared sauna to get some toxins and metals out.

 

[ajg223]

Estrogen is at 116 with total testosterone just over 600 on trt at 100mg a week.

 

[AE1079]

Estrogen is at 116 with total testosterone just over 600 on trt at 100mg a week.

Add 200mg of primo, should come down to 60-80.

 

[ajg223]

So add more test? Any advice?

 

[Eddie Haskell]

So the plan is a 10-12 week cycle of 100 a week of test and 300 primo pinned 2x a week.

Everything from my original post will remain as far as diet (plus more omega 3’s), training, and cycle support.

Supplements
7 n2Guard daily
15 g of fish oil
400 mg dim
Spore Pro/prebiotic
1-2 servings of psyllium husk powder

Will update my training daily and will post before photos and stats this weekend. Planning on starting Monday.

Anything I’m missing before getting started?

@ajg223 this is a good cycle but bump the testosterone to 200mgs of testosterone and cut the primo to 200mgs to level it out more.
You can increase primo more if you need.
the supp pick is perfect n2guard with fish oil is perfect
but DIM is an Anti E, so careful with the use

So add more test? Any advice?

For sure add test.

 

[ajg223]

@ajg223 this is a good cycle but bump the testosterone to 200mgs of testosterone and cut the primo to 200mgs to level it out more.
You can increase primo more if you need.
the supp pick is perfect n2guard with fish oil is perfect
but DIM is an Anti E, so careful with the use


For sure add test.

I think that sounds like a good plan. I will also cut out the DIM while on the primo.

Question about my estrogen level. On my test results it’s clearly in the green, and the doctor didn’t mention it. I am looking online at ideal estrogen levels and they seem to be less than half of mine. I had worked with the doctor to find a trt dose that would leave me in the 600-700 range of test levels.

Am I missing something on the estrogen number? Is my test measuring it differently than the ranges I’m reading about? It says anything under 440 is ok which seems bizarre.

 

[Eddie Haskell]

I think that sounds like a good plan. I will also cut out the DIM while on the primo.

Question about my estrogen level. On my test results it’s clearly in the green, and the doctor didn’t mention it. I am looking online at ideal estrogen levels and they seem to be less than half of mine. I had worked with the doctor to find a trt dose that would leave me in the 600-700 range of test levels.

Am I missing something on the estrogen number? Is my test measuring it differently than the ranges I’m reading about? It says anything under 440 is ok which seems bizarre.

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@ajg223 I missed this blood work in earliers posts, you posted this range?
with these E2 numbers, your test should be higher than primo
lets try 300mgs testosterone with 150mgs primobolan to start, you ok with this?

 

[ajg223]

I am ok with that. Can you explain the reasoning behind it though?

Also, I have decided I am going to sign up for the subscription blood test service. I want to make it as cost effective as I can without missing anything important. What would you suggest I have tested?

 

[juddy]

Primo should be higher than test to bring down E2.

Maybe I've missed something, but if you're using the Primo for its AI impact, it should be higher right @Eddie Haskell ?

 

[AE1079]

So add more test? Any advice?

Well if you want to add more test your going to have more E2 seeing as your aromatise fairly easily,
You can add primo, get some bloods, and adjust from their after 4 weeks

 

[AE1079]

Looking at he’s E2 on 100mg of test, he will not benefit from 300mg of test with 150mg primo in terms of T:E2 ratio. It’s going to fly up I guarantee.

100mg Test 200mg Primo
200mg primo should bring it down to normal ranges. He can Titrate up when he gets bloods next if E2 is lowered, it’s a good base to allow the user to adjust his levels safely. 300 test and 150 primo will not be the best looking at his bloods.

You can also jab your gear ED to prevent spikes of E2 corresponding with High Androgen Bolus.