Approved Log Test and Primo Cycle Log

[Austin316]

Primo does affect estrogen a little bit as other DHT's because they compete for receptors

 

[ajg223]

I'm glad you're open to other people's suggestions

Nicely thought out

i wouldn't use masteron at your body fat. but anavar and primo are A+

I am almost too open to other people’s suggestions. Now I am torn on what route to go.

 

[RoySimpson]

Planning on starting my cycle in the next week or two. Depending on when my n2Guard comes in and when I receive my bloodwork results. Outlining my plan below so that I have time to make any adjustments based on the experience of the community.

Background

2nd ever cycle. Did a test only cycle at the beginning of the year. First cycle was run at 16 weeks which was too long. Felt bloated and “too big” for my body towards the end. Ran 500 mg of Test C per week. After the cycle I have maintained approximately 8-9 pounds of muscle that I put on and strength measured by lifts I am still able to do is about 90% of the max I reached on cycle. At the conclusion of my cycle I have run TRT at 100 mg per week as my test numbers were at the very low end of normal before the cycle.

I am currently weighing in at 198-200 lbs. my body fat according to inbody is 16.5%. Will upload photos on starting date.

Goals

The goal for this cycle is not to gain as much mass as the first cycle. Concentrating on strength gains and losing fat. Looking to become more defined at the size I am.

Gear

Based on suggestions from a previous thread I created my plan is to run 300 mg of both test c and Primo per week for 10-12 weeks. I also have var on hand if needed.

Diet

For my goals I know that diet will be of the utmost importance. While I am not looking to compete or live a life where I can never indulge, I will be strictly limiting sugar intake for the duration. My macros will be at approximately 2300 calories a day broken down into 190-200 g of protein, 170 g of carbs, and 90 grams of fats.

Supplements

7 n2Guard daily
15 g of fish oil
400 mg dim
500 mg pathothenic acid
1-2 servings of psyllium husk powder
At these levels I don’t plan to take an anti estrogen supplement, but have on hand if needed.

Training

I will be using a bodybuilding program with 5 days of lifting and 2 days of zone 2 cardio a day. Each workout is approximately 60-75 minutes followed by a 20 minute sauna and 3 min cold plunge.

Any advice or adjustments that you guys see? Looking forward to sharing my progress with the community.

@ajg223 Welcome to the family looking forward to following your log!

 

[Noah Wixx]

I like to run test and primo in a 1:1 ratio or my primo a little higher, currently I've been running 300 test & 300 primo I've seen great results

 

[AE1079]

I am almost too open to other people’s suggestions. Now I am torn on what route to go.

I am almost too open to other people’s suggestions. Now I am torn on what route to go.

Feel free to DM me mate

 

[juddy]

Keep up the work mate, looking good and following along with your plan! Keep us posted!

 

[Masonic Bodybuilder]

You look really good. Better than most. But I would save the mast.

 

[AE1079]

do you guys understand what primo does at the cellular level and what mast does? Ita completely contradictory to his goals and what he wants.. if someone can argue valid points of why primo over mast In this setting I would like to hear ?

 

[ballin2504]

The macro numbers look good

 

[Tiger Salman Khan]

Planning on starting my cycle in the next week or two. Depending on when my n2Guard comes in and when I receive my bloodwork results. Outlining my plan below so that I have time to make any adjustments based on the experience of the community.

Background

2nd ever cycle. Did a test only cycle at the beginning of the year. First cycle was run at 16 weeks which was too long. Felt bloated and “too big” for my body towards the end. Ran 500 mg of Test C per week. After the cycle I have maintained approximately 8-9 pounds of muscle that I put on and strength measured by lifts I am still able to do is about 90% of the max I reached on cycle. At the conclusion of my cycle I have run TRT at 100 mg per week as my test numbers were at the very low end of normal before the cycle.

I am currently weighing in at 198-200 lbs. my body fat according to inbody is 16.5%. Will upload photos on starting date.

Goals

The goal for this cycle is not to gain as much mass as the first cycle. Concentrating on strength gains and losing fat. Looking to become more defined at the size I am.

Gear

Based on suggestions from a previous thread I created my plan is to run 300 mg of both test c and Primo per week for 10-12 weeks. I also have var on hand if needed.

Diet

For my goals I know that diet will be of the utmost importance. While I am not looking to compete or live a life where I can never indulge, I will be strictly limiting sugar intake for the duration. My macros will be at approximately 2300 calories a day broken down into 190-200 g of protein, 170 g of carbs, and 90 grams of fats.

Supplements

7 n2Guard daily
15 g of fish oil
400 mg dim
500 mg pathothenic acid
1-2 servings of psyllium husk powder
At these levels I don’t plan to take an anti estrogen supplement, but have on hand if needed.

Training

I will be using a bodybuilding program with 5 days of lifting and 2 days of zone 2 cardio a day. Each workout is approximately 60-75 minutes followed by a 20 minute sauna and 3 min cold plunge.

Any advice or adjustments that you guys see? Looking forward to sharing my progress with the community.

@ajg223 good detailed start........

 

[Noah Wixx]

do you guys understand what primo does at the cellular level and what mast does? Ita completely contradictory to his goals and what he wants.. if someone can argue valid points of why primo over mast In this setting I would like to hear ?

I'm all for hearing the education on this and gaining knowledge it's how we evolve and advance.

 

[Eddie Haskell]

do you guys understand what primo does at the cellular level and what mast does? Ita completely contradictory to his goals and what he wants.. if someone can argue valid points of why primo over mast In this setting I would like to hear ?

until I see your log being update I'm not arguing with you man lol @AE1079 get your training up and posted please
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...terone-masteron-primobolan-hgh-insulin.98387/

 

[ajg223]

until I see your log being update I'm not arguing with you man lol @AE1079 get your training up and posted please
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...terone-masteron-primobolan-hgh-insulin.98387/

So is your opinion that I should go primo over mast?

 

[Eddie Haskell]

So is your opinion that I should go primo over mast?

no doubt primobolan is the better option for you @ajg223 and I've been following your logs for years man

 

[AE1079]

until I see your log being update I'm not arguing with you man lol @AE1079 get your training up and posted please
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...terone-masteron-primobolan-hgh-insulin.98387/

Hahahahahahahah nothing to update. I don’t need to update anything. Feel free to provide a valid argument as to why primo is more beneficial then mast in his case, can you tell me the difference between the two drugs in the body and what it does to e2? Do you know how many different estrogens are in the body?

I’m sorry but giving a response like primo is better then mast with no understanding of how it works is not the best advice? People are putting things in their body that messes with hormones, you think that’s a good justification of using primo over mast?

Or should I update a log that’s no longer valid for you to explain to the OP why he should use primo in detail.. not good advice

 

[Eddie Haskell]

Hahahahahahahah nothing to update. I don’t need to update anything. Feel free to provide a valid argument as to why primo is more beneficial then mast in his case, can you tell me the difference between the two drugs in the body and what it does to e2? Do you know how many different estrogens are in the body?

I’m sorry but giving a response like primo is better then mast with no understanding of how it works is not the best advice? People are putting things in their body that messes with hormones, you think that’s a good justification of using primo over mast?

Or should I update a log that’s no longer valid for you to explain to the OP why he should use primo in detail.. not good advice

@AE1079 you're an amazing bodybuilder and the EVO family especially AU brothers look up to you and your style man

so updating your log is nothing bad, its training that show the other brothers how you doing and how to learn from your success, will get you more clients and more EVO family love
and you have it going anyhow already so just 1 reply away
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...terone-masteron-primobolan-hgh-insulin.98387/

 

[AE1079]

@AE1079 you're an amazing bodybuilder and the EVO family especially AU brothers look up to you and your style man

so updating your log is nothing bad, its training that show the other brothers how you doing and how to learn from your success, will get you more clients and more EVO family love
and you have it going anyhow already so just 1 reply away
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...terone-masteron-primobolan-hgh-insulin.98387/

Professionally said sir.. professionally said

 

[Eddie Haskell]

Professionally said sir.. professionally said

@AE1079 my EVO brother, it's only professional because it's true from the heart man

 

[RoySimpson]

Todays meal plan

Breakfast:
Protein shake
Spore pre/probiotic
Psyllium husk

Lunch:
Grilled pork chop
Brown rice cooked in chicken stock
Steamed broccoli

Dinner:
Grilled steak with rice noodles and mixed veggies

Snacks:
Quest Bar
1 serving of walnuts
Greek yogurt

Total macros:
Protein - 190g
Carbs - 150g
Fats - 75g

@ajg223 Very solid meal plan right here!

 

[ajg223]

After some thought, I am going to push my cycle off for a few months. I am worried about the e2 crash with the primo and feel like I need to be at a lower body fat percentage for the mast. I am going to work on incorporating more cardio and HIIT training in an effort to lower body fat. Hoping in 2-3 months that my fat ass will be in a better spot to get the most out of the cycle.