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Aesthetics or Mass?

JackSteel said:
Wait a second... I missed your tease and I respectfully request a second post.


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Yesterday we were posting on the same page... I said "you ended up in my sights. Take it as a complement, if you were in my sights it means I was checking you out."

Ring any bells. Not a full blown tease, but I can up my game. lol
 
JackSteel said:
I'm not so sure. Probably depends on the brain trying to absorb it. I do well with colors... Kindergarten wiz here


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I remember in kindergarten some kid stuck a piece of metal into a plug and electrocuted himself lol.
 
JackSteel said:
Wait a second... I missed your tease and I respectfully request a second post.


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oh shit she is digging your avi bro. I guess those red muscle fibered physiques really do attract the chicks?
 
stevesmi said:
oh shit she is digging your avi bro. I guess those red muscle fibered physiques really do attract the chicks?
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Hahaha! Well I hope so cause the white ones don't like my body as far as a habitat goes ;)


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SimplyScarlet said:
Yesterday we were posting on the same page... I said "you ended up in my sights. Take it as a complement, if you were in my sights it means I was checking you out."

Ring any bells. Not a full blown tease, but I can up my game. lol
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Oh shit sorry I must not have revisited that thread. I ln always happy to be in someone's sights! Lol btw is that you in your Avatar??


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stevesmi said:
thought I read somewhere that a huge majority of all pro bodybuilders started out powerlifting. it makes perfect sense to build up a base of white muscle fibers and then later on in life switch over to red and really shred up
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That's Lee's regular off season look bro.
 
I think everyone should strive for something in between the two. Look at Lee labrada. He had plenty of muscle mass but was extremely aesthetically pleasing also. I strive for both. I want to look good but I don't want to be a skinny guy with good abs eitherm
 
KillaBig said:
Wrong post I meant to call Catfish on this one I'm a lil stoney right now.lol
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SimplyScarlet (SS) u have to be a little gentle with Jack...he's shy, especially around gym going ladies.
 
EER said:
He's a broken soul that only a hot ass mamma can fix.....am I right lol?!?!?!?!
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Probably bro lol I'm jaded, and could be labeled a woman hater by some, but who knows? Maybe one day I'll land a trophy wife who isn't bat shit crazy and doesn't want more kids lol


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JackSteel said:
Probably bro lol I'm jaded, and could be labeled a woman hater by some, but who knows? Maybe one day I'll land a trophy wife who isn't bat shit crazy and doesn't want more kids lol


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stop dating girls... go for the 35+ crowd. problem is you have a lot of crazy in you and you are young yourself so of course those are the chicks that you are going to meet. i'm being serious. big difference between 20 and 30.. and huge difference between 20 and 40. too many young guys think they have to get married and have kids at 25.. bullshit. you can worry about that well into your 30's and 40's. by then you will know what you want and can find mature women
 
stevesmi said:
stop dating girls... go for the 35+ crowd. problem is you have a lot of crazy in you and you are young yourself so of course those are the chicks that you are going to meet. i'm being serious. big difference between 20 and 30.. and huge difference between 20 and 40. too many young guys think they have to get married and have kids at 25.. bullshit. you can worry about that well into your 30's and 40's. by then you will know what you want and can find mature women
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You're right. I wanted marriage at 18 lol then got married while in the army at 25 and divorced at 26. First kid at 28 and then a second at 29 and still fighting with their 23 year old mother to this very afternoon lmao! I'm still young, getting crazier by the day, and yet more enlightened by the hour, as well as more paranoid by the minute. At this point my life goals are to stay sane, protect and raise my boys well, and stay out of jail without getting cancer.

Although I don't even date. Haven't in a couple years. Romance is not on my priority list unless you mean fucking, doing a bowl and parting ways to go eat lol

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JackSteel said:
You're right. I wanted marriage at 18 lol then got married while in the army at 25 and divorced at 26. First kid at 28 and then a second at 29 and still fighting with their 23 year old mother to this very afternoon lmao! I'm still young, getting crazier by the day, and yet more enlightened by the hour, as well as more paranoid by the minute. At this point my life goals are to stay sane, protect and raise my boys well, and stay out of jail without getting cancer.

Although I don't even date. Haven't in a couple years. Romance is not on my priority list unless you mean fucking, doing a bowl and parting ways to go eat lol

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And with all of that fun in your life you don't want more kids.... Why on earth not?? lol J/K
 
stevesmi said:
stop dating girls... go for the 35+ crowd. problem is you have a lot of crazy in you and you are young yourself so of course those are the chicks that you are going to meet. i'm being serious. big difference between 20 and 30.. and huge difference between 20 and 40. too many young guys think they have to get married and have kids at 25.. bullshit. you can worry about that well into your 30's and 40's. by then you will know what you want and can find mature women
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^^^ this is 110% true.
 
JackSteel said:
You're right. I wanted marriage at 18 lol then got married while in the army at 25 and divorced at 26. First kid at 28 and then a second at 29 and still fighting with their 23 year old mother to this very afternoon lmao! I'm still young, getting crazier by the day, and yet more enlightened by the hour, as well as more paranoid by the minute. At this point my life goals are to stay sane, protect and raise my boys well, and stay out of jail without getting cancer.

Although I don't even date. Haven't in a couple years. Romance is not on my priority list unless you mean fucking, doing a bowl and parting ways to go eat lol

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And the fucking you are referring to actually counts as part of your workout, not even close to romance.

"Leg days are like sex. You know you've had a good session when you can't walk for the rest of the week"
 
SimplyScarlet said:
And the fucking you are referring to actually counts as part of your workout, not even close to romance.

"Leg days are like sex. You know you've had a good session when you can't walk for the rest of the week"
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Hell ya! Hits Hamstrings and glutes hardcore


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Nah this thread became part two of Jacks 'advice on picking up women at the gym' thread: 'advice in picking up women on EVO'
 
stevesmi said:
those of you stalking the one female on here are creeps btw. this forum is 1000 to 1 male and you think you have a chance with those odds?
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No worries. I don't think anyone is stalking me... yet. We were all just teasing one another, but I'll tone it down just the same.
 
SimplyScarlet said:
No worries. I don't think anyone is stalking me... yet. We were all just teasing one another, but I'll tone it down just the same.
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you can do whatever you wish on here however I strongly urge you not to PM guys your pictures.. not a smart idea.

this place is like a high school locker room where otherwise mature men act like horny 15 year olds.
what you choose to do is your business though
 
Back to the actual thread-subject ...

It has always been a tough one for me. At times I think 'that's it, dirty bulk and wet compound time' and I want to grow like shit, see if I can max out at 300lbs after 2 years. Other times I feel like running the dry compounds and leaning out down to around 185 (but this usually hurts my joints like you would not believe). So, I have decided to run more wet than dry and go more for your Roger Estep type look ... I love that look. It just says enough.
 
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stevesmi said:
those of you stalking the one female on here are creeps btw. this forum is 1000 to 1 male and you think you have a chance with those odds?
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Lmao! Who are the real females here? Just Scarlett and caligirl? Slim pickins. Feels like Afghanistan


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Redam said:
Just so you guys know 6-8% bf is NOT comfortable. There is no need to walk around at such a low bf.

I personally like walking around at 10-12%
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I hear ya bro. Anytime I get under 10% I'm hungry all the time and feel as though I've got no energy. At 10% I've got slightly visible abs, although I'm more interested in performance than aesthetics.


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Colstreamer said:
I hear ya bro. Anytime I get under 10% I'm hungry all the time and feel as though I've got no energy. At 10% I've got slightly visible abs, although I'm more interested in performance than aesthetics.


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I'm Sorry, you say at 10% BF, you Abs are only Slightly Visible.
Are you sure that you're doing it Right.
At 10% BF, I'm damn near Shredded.......................... JP
P.S.
My Avatar, is me at Age 60 at 12 or 13% BF.
 
jp4355 said:
I'm Sorry, you say at 10% BF, you Abs are only Slightly Visible.
Are you sure that you're doing it Right.
At 10% BF, I'm damn near Shredded.......................... JP
P.S.
My Avatar, is me at Age 60 at 12 or 13% BF.
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Yep. This is me at 10% measured with callipers.

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6 percent is shredded not 10. I was natty 7-8 percent during wrestling season always


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Colstreamer said:
Yep. This is me at 10% measured with callipers.

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I'm not trying to burst your bubble, but you must not be using your calipers correctly. You are a long way from 10% bro. You look much closer to 15% to me. 10% is a lot more ripped than most people think. You should have striations and good vascularity at 10% with noticeable defined muscle separation at every muscle group
 
Genetics man,

My quads/back get shredded out long before my abs/serratus really come in - whereas my training partner has potato legs until the single digits, but his abs pop around 12%
 
People carry fat in different areas more than others from their genetics, which is true but you guys are missing the picture here. When you look at a picture of someone you can get a rough idea of their bodyfat percentage regardless of genetics because you get the whole picture, and no way is that remotely close to 10% in any way, shape, or form.
 
RickRock said:
People carry fat in different areas more than others from their genetics, which is true but you guys are missing the picture here. When you look at a picture of someone you can get a rough idea of their bodyfat percentage regardless of genetics because you get the whole picture, and no way is that remotely close to 10% in any way, shape, or form.
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Oh definitely man - I didn't see him post a picture though?
 
This

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Is what I really like. You can just TELL that he is one strong mofo! I would like to get there at some stage.
 
Aesthetics for me.

As for bf%. A lot of people say they are 10% and are probably a bit higher. This is my below last time I measured I was 9.7%

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