Approved Log MOTS-C Peptide Cycle - Testosterone, Masteron, NPP, HGH

[TheOne1]

Hey everyone

I'm back to log a peptide cycle with a new lab supplying the Australian domestic market: @Prymal

I'll be sharing my training, diet, compound response and progress here over the next 6-7 weeks

My basic demographics:

• Age: Early 30s
• Training Experience: Intermediate, with ~12 years of natural strength training off and on based on my health at the time.
• Cycle History: I began doctor-prescribed TRT about 5 years ago due to primary hypogonadism. My base cycle is usually comprised of a TRT dose of Test E (245mg/week) and I have been running various doses of Mast E alongside it for the last year (yes i've well stocked up from before the shortage, so no problems on that end).
• General Health: I sustained a traumatic spinal cord injury (SCI) as a teenager, resulting in paralysis (paraplegia) from my mid-abdominals down. I use a manual wheelchair full time. I also manage sleep apnea with a CPAP machine and consistently get 6-8 hours of sleep every night. Otherwise, my health is very good. I do regular blood tests and imaging of my organs as part of my usual monitoring (even before using steroids).

Here is a copy of my latest blood tests (click on the image to enlarge):

My Current Cycle (self sourced):

- 245mg of Test E per week (split up into daily shots)
- 210mg of Mast E per week (split up into daily shots)
- 200mg of NPP per week (split up into daily shots)
- 4IU of generic HGH nightly

All of my compounds are legit and have been corroborated with previous blood tests. This is the first time I am trying NPP (any nandrolone actually) too btw. I started this specific list of compounds and dosages on December 2nd this year (so it's been a few weeks on so far).

I will be adding 10mg of MOTS-C about 30-60mins pre-workout moving forward supplied by @Prymal (see below):

Diet:​

My calorie requirements for maintenance are a bit different. Guidelines suggest that persons with SCI have reduced metabolic activity due to denervated muscle in my lower limbs and therefore need fewer calories than non-paralyzed individuals. So for someone like myself, it works out to be around ~30 calories per kg of body weight. So on the upper limit, 2400 calories are just for maintenance (pretty easy to hit on my appetite). I aim for 175-200g of daily protein intake every day. I meal prep most meals and have a set and predictable diet for the most part.

My Training:

Comprised of 4 training days per week and HIT cardio after it. On some days off I will also have a longer cardio session, but that infrequently atm.

Monday: Chest + Biceps + Shoulders
Tuesday: Back + Triceps + Shoulders
Thursday: Chest + Biceps + Shoulders
Saturday: Back + Triceps + Shoulders

No Leg days of course
My Goals:

It's summer here in Australia, so aiming on improving conditioning and and fullness are are my main focuses atm. Following that, a growth phase into the autumn and winter months in 2026.

I'm hoping that MOTS-C will help support fat loss, cardio endurance, stamina and energy levels. Afterall it is touted as a mitochondrial support peptide. And since this one has also been tested in humans so pretty easy decision to give it a run.

Here's a photo of my current condition literally taken at yesterdays workout:

 

[Nasser1997o2]

Absolute cannons for arms big dog

 

[Eveflorence]

Looking awesome brother. I'm always interested in these peptide logs so will be following along. I'll be starting mots-c again in the new year but keeping doses pretty modest. Look forward to seeing how 10mg pre workout goes for you.

 

[Don Kong]

You already look like a unit. You gonna be shredded as f&@k soon

 

[willipede]

Cracker physique brother.

I really like mots-c 1mg gives me a lot of energy l, also a big fan of nandrolone but that experience is varied.

Id suggest starting a little lower with the NPP and titrating up if your feeling good.

 

[Don Kong]

How are people dosing mots c? Is it 1mg in morning for 5 days then 2 days off

 

[Pigsy]

Hey everyone

I'm back to log a peptide cycle with a new lab supplying the Australian domestic market: @Prymal

I'll be sharing my training, diet, compound response and progress here over the next 6-7 weeks

My basic demographics:

• Age: Early 30s
• Training Experience: Intermediate, with ~12 years of natural strength training off and on based on my health at the time.
• Cycle History: I began doctor-prescribed TRT about 5 years ago due to primary hypogonadism. My base cycle is usually comprised of a TRT dose of Test E (245mg/week) and I have been running various doses of Mast E alongside it for the last year (yes i've well stocked up from before the shortage, so no problems on that end).
• General Health: I sustained a traumatic spinal cord injury (SCI) as a teenager, resulting in paralysis (paraplegia) from my mid-abdominals down. I use a manual wheelchair full time. I also manage sleep apnea with a CPAP machine and consistently get 6-8 hours of sleep every night. Otherwise, my health is very good. I do regular blood tests and imaging of my organs as part of my usual monitoring (even before using steroids).

Here is a copy of my latest blood tests (click on the image to enlarge):

View attachment 160618View attachment 160619

View attachment 160620View attachment 160621

My Current Cycle (self sourced):

- 245mg of Test E per week (split up into daily shots)
- 210mg of Mast E per week (split up into daily shots)
- 200mg of NPP per week (split up into daily shots)
- 4IU of generic HGH nightly

All of my compounds are legit and have been corroborated with previous blood tests. This is the first time I am trying NPP (any nandrolone actually) too btw. I started this specific list of compounds and dosages on December 2nd this year (so it's been a few weeks on so far).

I will be adding 10mg of MOTS-C about 30-60mins pre-workout moving forward supplied by @Prymal (see below):

View attachment 160627

Diet:​

My calorie requirements for maintenance are a bit different. Guidelines suggest that persons with SCI have reduced metabolic activity due to denervated muscle in my lower limbs and therefore need fewer calories than non-paralyzed individuals. So for someone like myself, it works out to be around ~30 calories per kg of body weight. So on the upper limit, 2400 calories are just for maintenance (pretty easy to hit on my appetite). I aim for 175-200g of daily protein intake every day. I meal prep most meals and have a set and predictable diet for the most part.

My Training:

Comprised of 4 training days per week and HIT cardio after it. On some days off I will also have a longer cardio session, but that infrequently atm.

Monday: Chest + Biceps + Shoulders
Tuesday: Back + Triceps + Shoulders
Thursday: Chest + Biceps + Shoulders
Saturday: Back + Triceps + Shoulders

No Leg days of course
My Goals:

It's summer here in Australia, so aiming on improving conditioning and and fullness are are my main focuses atm. Following that, a growth phase into the autumn and winter months in 2026.

I'm hoping that MOTS-C will help support fat loss, cardio endurance, stamina and energy levels. Afterall it is touted as a mitochondrial support peptide. And since this one has also been tested in humans so pretty easy decision to give it a run.

Here's a photo of my current condition literally taken at yesterdays workout:

View attachment 160623

Welcome back to logging brother, still looking great. Love me some motsc, will be following

 

[FluffyBunny]

U look amazing brother! So many men would love to have your arms and shoulders

 

[HarleyGuy]

Hey everyone

I'm back to log a peptide cycle with a new lab supplying the Australian domestic market: @Prymal

I'll be sharing my training, diet, compound response and progress here over the next 6-7 weeks

My basic demographics:

• Age: Early 30s
• Training Experience: Intermediate, with ~12 years of natural strength training off and on based on my health at the time.
• Cycle History: I began doctor-prescribed TRT about 5 years ago due to primary hypogonadism. My base cycle is usually comprised of a TRT dose of Test E (245mg/week) and I have been running various doses of Mast E alongside it for the last year (yes i've well stocked up from before the shortage, so no problems on that end).
• General Health: I sustained a traumatic spinal cord injury (SCI) as a teenager, resulting in paralysis (paraplegia) from my mid-abdominals down. I use a manual wheelchair full time. I also manage sleep apnea with a CPAP machine and consistently get 6-8 hours of sleep every night. Otherwise, my health is very good. I do regular blood tests and imaging of my organs as part of my usual monitoring (even before using steroids).

Here is a copy of my latest blood tests (click on the image to enlarge):

View attachment 160618View attachment 160619

View attachment 160620View attachment 160621

My Current Cycle (self sourced):

- 245mg of Test E per week (split up into daily shots)
- 210mg of Mast E per week (split up into daily shots)
- 200mg of NPP per week (split up into daily shots)
- 4IU of generic HGH nightly

All of my compounds are legit and have been corroborated with previous blood tests. This is the first time I am trying NPP (any nandrolone actually) too btw. I started this specific list of compounds and dosages on December 2nd this year (so it's been a few weeks on so far).

I will be adding 10mg of MOTS-C about 30-60mins pre-workout moving forward supplied by @Prymal (see below):

View attachment 160627

Diet:​

My calorie requirements for maintenance are a bit different. Guidelines suggest that persons with SCI have reduced metabolic activity due to denervated muscle in my lower limbs and therefore need fewer calories than non-paralyzed individuals. So for someone like myself, it works out to be around ~30 calories per kg of body weight. So on the upper limit, 2400 calories are just for maintenance (pretty easy to hit on my appetite). I aim for 175-200g of daily protein intake every day. I meal prep most meals and have a set and predictable diet for the most part.

My Training:

Comprised of 4 training days per week and HIT cardio after it. On some days off I will also have a longer cardio session, but that infrequently atm.

Monday: Chest + Biceps + Shoulders
Tuesday: Back + Triceps + Shoulders
Thursday: Chest + Biceps + Shoulders
Saturday: Back + Triceps + Shoulders

No Leg days of course
My Goals:

It's summer here in Australia, so aiming on improving conditioning and and fullness are are my main focuses atm. Following that, a growth phase into the autumn and winter months in 2026.

I'm hoping that MOTS-C will help support fat loss, cardio endurance, stamina and energy levels. Afterall it is touted as a mitochondrial support peptide. And since this one has also been tested in humans so pretty easy decision to give it a run.

Here's a photo of my current condition literally taken at yesterdays workout:

View attachment 160623

Welcome back to EVO logging bro, been a while!

You looked jacked and aren't the only chair member here on EVO @Wheels85 @Mr.liftz.

I'm grateful you came back and it will be a pleasure to follow your log, you're one massive unit with boulder delts and vascularity that looks like a DHB vial LOL. This will inspire others (in a chair, or not in a chair!).

I will be adding 10mg of MOTS-C about 30-60mins pre-workout

This is the highest dose of MOTS-C I've seen on here so far. Do you have any experience with running it more than 5mg ED?

Diet:

Soon enough it will be important to elaborate on this with pics and macro breakfowns.

Also, your liver is pretty angry at you right now I would suggest getting N2Guard and running it (at the least) during your entire cycle. It can be bought here: needtobuildmuscle.com

Nice touchdown and work by @Prymal he is really humming along on here so far!

Welcome aboard and welcome back!

 

[Allupfromhere]

Hey everyone

I'm back to log a peptide cycle with a new lab supplying the Australian domestic market: @Prymal

I'll be sharing my training, diet, compound response and progress here over the next 6-7 weeks

My basic demographics:

• Age: Early 30s
• Training Experience: Intermediate, with ~12 years of natural strength training off and on based on my health at the time.
• Cycle History: I began doctor-prescribed TRT about 5 years ago due to primary hypogonadism. My base cycle is usually comprised of a TRT dose of Test E (245mg/week) and I have been running various doses of Mast E alongside it for the last year (yes i've well stocked up from before the shortage, so no problems on that end).
• General Health: I sustained a traumatic spinal cord injury (SCI) as a teenager, resulting in paralysis (paraplegia) from my mid-abdominals down. I use a manual wheelchair full time. I also manage sleep apnea with a CPAP machine and consistently get 6-8 hours of sleep every night. Otherwise, my health is very good. I do regular blood tests and imaging of my organs as part of my usual monitoring (even before using steroids).

Here is a copy of my latest blood tests (click on the image to enlarge):

View attachment 160618View attachment 160619

View attachment 160620View attachment 160621

My Current Cycle (self sourced):

- 245mg of Test E per week (split up into daily shots)
- 210mg of Mast E per week (split up into daily shots)
- 200mg of NPP per week (split up into daily shots)
- 4IU of generic HGH nightly

All of my compounds are legit and have been corroborated with previous blood tests. This is the first time I am trying NPP (any nandrolone actually) too btw. I started this specific list of compounds and dosages on December 2nd this year (so it's been a few weeks on so far).

I will be adding 10mg of MOTS-C about 30-60mins pre-workout moving forward supplied by @Prymal (see below):

View attachment 160627

Diet:​

My calorie requirements for maintenance are a bit different. Guidelines suggest that persons with SCI have reduced metabolic activity due to denervated muscle in my lower limbs and therefore need fewer calories than non-paralyzed individuals. So for someone like myself, it works out to be around ~30 calories per kg of body weight. So on the upper limit, 2400 calories are just for maintenance (pretty easy to hit on my appetite). I aim for 175-200g of daily protein intake every day. I meal prep most meals and have a set and predictable diet for the most part.

My Training:

Comprised of 4 training days per week and HIT cardio after it. On some days off I will also have a longer cardio session, but that infrequently atm.

Monday: Chest + Biceps + Shoulders
Tuesday: Back + Triceps + Shoulders
Thursday: Chest + Biceps + Shoulders
Saturday: Back + Triceps + Shoulders

No Leg days of course
My Goals:

It's summer here in Australia, so aiming on improving conditioning and and fullness are are my main focuses atm. Following that, a growth phase into the autumn and winter months in 2026.

I'm hoping that MOTS-C will help support fat loss, cardio endurance, stamina and energy levels. Afterall it is touted as a mitochondrial support peptide. And since this one has also been tested in humans so pretty easy decision to give it a run.

Here's a photo of my current condition literally taken at yesterdays workout:

View attachment 160623

Fuck yeah King welcome back
Fucking animal already and exciting times ahead brother the npp can do wonders from what i have been following. Very keen to see how your pre workout dose of MOTS-C goes and will be following close. Running it myself and always interested in others experiences.

Big 2026 ahead legend keen to see it

 

[Mr.liftz]

Hey everyone

I'm back to log a peptide cycle with a new lab supplying the Australian domestic market: @Prymal

I'll be sharing my training, diet, compound response and progress here over the next 6-7 weeks

My basic demographics:

• Age: Early 30s
• Training Experience: Intermediate, with ~12 years of natural strength training off and on based on my health at the time.
• Cycle History: I began doctor-prescribed TRT about 5 years ago due to primary hypogonadism. My base cycle is usually comprised of a TRT dose of Test E (245mg/week) and I have been running various doses of Mast E alongside it for the last year (yes i've well stocked up from before the shortage, so no problems on that end).
• General Health: I sustained a traumatic spinal cord injury (SCI) as a teenager, resulting in paralysis (paraplegia) from my mid-abdominals down. I use a manual wheelchair full time. I also manage sleep apnea with a CPAP machine and consistently get 6-8 hours of sleep every night. Otherwise, my health is very good. I do regular blood tests and imaging of my organs as part of my usual monitoring (even before using steroids).

Here is a copy of my latest blood tests (click on the image to enlarge):

View attachment 160618View attachment 160619

View attachment 160620View attachment 160621

My Current Cycle (self sourced):

- 245mg of Test E per week (split up into daily shots)
- 210mg of Mast E per week (split up into daily shots)
- 200mg of NPP per week (split up into daily shots)
- 4IU of generic HGH nightly

All of my compounds are legit and have been corroborated with previous blood tests. This is the first time I am trying NPP (any nandrolone actually) too btw. I started this specific list of compounds and dosages on December 2nd this year (so it's been a few weeks on so far).

I will be adding 10mg of MOTS-C about 30-60mins pre-workout moving forward supplied by @Prymal (see below):

View attachment 160627

Diet:​

My calorie requirements for maintenance are a bit different. Guidelines suggest that persons with SCI have reduced metabolic activity due to denervated muscle in my lower limbs and therefore need fewer calories than non-paralyzed individuals. So for someone like myself, it works out to be around ~30 calories per kg of body weight. So on the upper limit, 2400 calories are just for maintenance (pretty easy to hit on my appetite). I aim for 175-200g of daily protein intake every day. I meal prep most meals and have a set and predictable diet for the most part.

My Training:

Comprised of 4 training days per week and HIT cardio after it. On some days off I will also have a longer cardio session, but that infrequently atm.

Monday: Chest + Biceps + Shoulders
Tuesday: Back + Triceps + Shoulders
Thursday: Chest + Biceps + Shoulders
Saturday: Back + Triceps + Shoulders

No Leg days of course
My Goals:

It's summer here in Australia, so aiming on improving conditioning and and fullness are are my main focuses atm. Following that, a growth phase into the autumn and winter months in 2026.

I'm hoping that MOTS-C will help support fat loss, cardio endurance, stamina and energy levels. Afterall it is touted as a mitochondrial support peptide. And since this one has also been tested in humans so pretty easy decision to give it a run.

Here's a photo of my current condition literally taken at yesterdays workout:

Welcome back to EVO logging bro, been a while!

You looked jacked and aren't the only chair member here on EVO @Wheels85 @Mr.liftz.

I'm grateful you came back and it will be a pleasure to follow your log, you're one massive unit with boulder delts and vascularity that looks like a DHB vial LOL. This will inspire others (in a chair, or not in a chair!).


This is the highest dose of MOTS-C I've seen on here so far. Do you have any experience with running it more than 5mg ED?

Soon enough it will be important to elaborate on this with pics and macro breakfowns.

Also, your liver is pretty angry at you right now I would suggest getting N2Guard and running it (at the least) during your entire cycle. It can be bought here: needtobuildmuscle.com

Nice touchdown and work by @Prymal he is really humming along on here so far!

Welcome aboard and welcome back!

My bro looking seriously fkn jacked

Love the dieting/training all looking really good my fella ️

 

[Prymal]

How's the arms on him

So happy to see this log starting brother

 

[Prymal]

Welcome back to EVO logging bro, been a while!

You looked jacked and aren't the only chair member here on EVO @Wheels85 @Mr.liftz.

I'm grateful you came back and it will be a pleasure to follow your log, you're one massive unit with boulder delts and vascularity that looks like a DHB vial LOL. This will inspire others (in a chair, or not in a chair!).


This is the highest dose of MOTS-C I've seen on here so far. Do you have any experience with running it more than 5mg ED?

Soon enough it will be important to elaborate on this with pics and macro breakfowns.

Also, your liver is pretty angry at you right now I would suggest getting N2Guard and running it (at the least) during your entire cycle. It can be bought here: needtobuildmuscle.com

Nice touchdown and work by @Prymal he is really humming along on here so far!

Welcome aboard and welcome back!

Thanks @HarleyGuy , trying our best

 

[Made_Man]

Hey everyone

I'm back to log a peptide cycle with a new lab supplying the Australian domestic market: @Prymal

I'll be sharing my training, diet, compound response and progress here over the next 6-7 weeks

My basic demographics:

• Age: Early 30s
• Training Experience: Intermediate, with ~12 years of natural strength training off and on based on my health at the time.
• Cycle History: I began doctor-prescribed TRT about 5 years ago due to primary hypogonadism. My base cycle is usually comprised of a TRT dose of Test E (245mg/week) and I have been running various doses of Mast E alongside it for the last year (yes i've well stocked up from before the shortage, so no problems on that end).
• General Health: I sustained a traumatic spinal cord injury (SCI) as a teenager, resulting in paralysis (paraplegia) from my mid-abdominals down. I use a manual wheelchair full time. I also manage sleep apnea with a CPAP machine and consistently get 6-8 hours of sleep every night. Otherwise, my health is very good. I do regular blood tests and imaging of my organs as part of my usual monitoring (even before using steroids).

Here is a copy of my latest blood tests (click on the image to enlarge):

View attachment 160618View attachment 160619

View attachment 160620View attachment 160621

My Current Cycle (self sourced):

- 245mg of Test E per week (split up into daily shots)
- 210mg of Mast E per week (split up into daily shots)
- 200mg of NPP per week (split up into daily shots)
- 4IU of generic HGH nightly

All of my compounds are legit and have been corroborated with previous blood tests. This is the first time I am trying NPP (any nandrolone actually) too btw. I started this specific list of compounds and dosages on December 2nd this year (so it's been a few weeks on so far).

I will be adding 10mg of MOTS-C about 30-60mins pre-workout moving forward supplied by @Prymal (see below):

View attachment 160627

Diet:​

My calorie requirements for maintenance are a bit different. Guidelines suggest that persons with SCI have reduced metabolic activity due to denervated muscle in my lower limbs and therefore need fewer calories than non-paralyzed individuals. So for someone like myself, it works out to be around ~30 calories per kg of body weight. So on the upper limit, 2400 calories are just for maintenance (pretty easy to hit on my appetite). I aim for 175-200g of daily protein intake every day. I meal prep most meals and have a set and predictable diet for the most part.

My Training:

Comprised of 4 training days per week and HIT cardio after it. On some days off I will also have a longer cardio session, but that infrequently atm.

Monday: Chest + Biceps + Shoulders
Tuesday: Back + Triceps + Shoulders
Thursday: Chest + Biceps + Shoulders
Saturday: Back + Triceps + Shoulders

No Leg days of course
My Goals:

It's summer here in Australia, so aiming on improving conditioning and and fullness are are my main focuses atm. Following that, a growth phase into the autumn and winter months in 2026.

I'm hoping that MOTS-C will help support fat loss, cardio endurance, stamina and energy levels. Afterall it is touted as a mitochondrial support peptide. And since this one has also been tested in humans so pretty easy decision to give it a run.

Here's a photo of my current condition literally taken at yesterdays workout:

View attachment 160623

Literally running the same cycle as me. Im 1 week in on my Mots-C. Will follow to a see how you progress.

 

[Wheels85]

Let's go. Aussie crips taking over Evo! Keen to follow this one!

 

[LevButlerov]

Hey everyone

I'm back to log a peptide cycle with a new lab supplying the Australian domestic market: @Prymal

I'll be sharing my training, diet, compound response and progress here over the next 6-7 weeks

My basic demographics:

• Age: Early 30s
• Training Experience: Intermediate, with ~12 years of natural strength training off and on based on my health at the time.
• Cycle History: I began doctor-prescribed TRT about 5 years ago due to primary hypogonadism. My base cycle is usually comprised of a TRT dose of Test E (245mg/week) and I have been running various doses of Mast E alongside it for the last year (yes i've well stocked up from before the shortage, so no problems on that end).
• General Health: I sustained a traumatic spinal cord injury (SCI) as a teenager, resulting in paralysis (paraplegia) from my mid-abdominals down. I use a manual wheelchair full time. I also manage sleep apnea with a CPAP machine and consistently get 6-8 hours of sleep every night. Otherwise, my health is very good. I do regular blood tests and imaging of my organs as part of my usual monitoring (even before using steroids).

Here is a copy of my latest blood tests (click on the image to enlarge):

View attachment 160618View attachment 160619

View attachment 160620View attachment 160621

My Current Cycle (self sourced):

- 245mg of Test E per week (split up into daily shots)
- 210mg of Mast E per week (split up into daily shots)
- 200mg of NPP per week (split up into daily shots)
- 4IU of generic HGH nightly

All of my compounds are legit and have been corroborated with previous blood tests. This is the first time I am trying NPP (any nandrolone actually) too btw. I started this specific list of compounds and dosages on December 2nd this year (so it's been a few weeks on so far).

I will be adding 10mg of MOTS-C about 30-60mins pre-workout moving forward supplied by @Prymal (see below):

View attachment 160627

Diet:​

My calorie requirements for maintenance are a bit different. Guidelines suggest that persons with SCI have reduced metabolic activity due to denervated muscle in my lower limbs and therefore need fewer calories than non-paralyzed individuals. So for someone like myself, it works out to be around ~30 calories per kg of body weight. So on the upper limit, 2400 calories are just for maintenance (pretty easy to hit on my appetite). I aim for 175-200g of daily protein intake every day. I meal prep most meals and have a set and predictable diet for the most part.

My Training:

Comprised of 4 training days per week and HIT cardio after it. On some days off I will also have a longer cardio session, but that infrequently atm.

Monday: Chest + Biceps + Shoulders
Tuesday: Back + Triceps + Shoulders
Thursday: Chest + Biceps + Shoulders
Saturday: Back + Triceps + Shoulders

No Leg days of course
My Goals:

It's summer here in Australia, so aiming on improving conditioning and and fullness are are my main focuses atm. Following that, a growth phase into the autumn and winter months in 2026.

I'm hoping that MOTS-C will help support fat loss, cardio endurance, stamina and energy levels. Afterall it is touted as a mitochondrial support peptide. And since this one has also been tested in humans so pretty easy decision to give it a run.

Here's a photo of my current condition literally taken at yesterdays workout:

View attachment 160623

welcome back to the EVO family @TheOne1 we missed you! happy to see you update and you look amazing, arms and shoulders massive!
looking forward to you taking a top spot this year and really going to the top

@BeMe @s.gentz
@Pigsy @Dreamer @Freki @R.AP
@waggat @Yuri @rizzlekdizzle @Grumpy

 

[stevesmi]

Hey everyone

I'm back to log a peptide cycle with a new lab supplying the Australian domestic market: @Prymal

I'll be sharing my training, diet, compound response and progress here over the next 6-7 weeks

My basic demographics:

• Age: Early 30s
• Training Experience: Intermediate, with ~12 years of natural strength training off and on based on my health at the time.
• Cycle History: I began doctor-prescribed TRT about 5 years ago due to primary hypogonadism. My base cycle is usually comprised of a TRT dose of Test E (245mg/week) and I have been running various doses of Mast E alongside it for the last year (yes i've well stocked up from before the shortage, so no problems on that end).
• General Health: I sustained a traumatic spinal cord injury (SCI) as a teenager, resulting in paralysis (paraplegia) from my mid-abdominals down. I use a manual wheelchair full time. I also manage sleep apnea with a CPAP machine and consistently get 6-8 hours of sleep every night. Otherwise, my health is very good. I do regular blood tests and imaging of my organs as part of my usual monitoring (even before using steroids).

Here is a copy of my latest blood tests (click on the image to enlarge):

View attachment 160618View attachment 160619

View attachment 160620View attachment 160621

My Current Cycle (self sourced):

- 245mg of Test E per week (split up into daily shots)
- 210mg of Mast E per week (split up into daily shots)
- 200mg of NPP per week (split up into daily shots)
- 4IU of generic HGH nightly

All of my compounds are legit and have been corroborated with previous blood tests. This is the first time I am trying NPP (any nandrolone actually) too btw. I started this specific list of compounds and dosages on December 2nd this year (so it's been a few weeks on so far).

I will be adding 10mg of MOTS-C about 30-60mins pre-workout moving forward supplied by @Prymal (see below):

View attachment 160627

Diet:​

My calorie requirements for maintenance are a bit different. Guidelines suggest that persons with SCI have reduced metabolic activity due to denervated muscle in my lower limbs and therefore need fewer calories than non-paralyzed individuals. So for someone like myself, it works out to be around ~30 calories per kg of body weight. So on the upper limit, 2400 calories are just for maintenance (pretty easy to hit on my appetite). I aim for 175-200g of daily protein intake every day. I meal prep most meals and have a set and predictable diet for the most part.

My Training:

Comprised of 4 training days per week and HIT cardio after it. On some days off I will also have a longer cardio session, but that infrequently atm.

Monday: Chest + Biceps + Shoulders
Tuesday: Back + Triceps + Shoulders
Thursday: Chest + Biceps + Shoulders
Saturday: Back + Triceps + Shoulders

No Leg days of course
My Goals:

It's summer here in Australia, so aiming on improving conditioning and and fullness are are my main focuses atm. Following that, a growth phase into the autumn and winter months in 2026.

I'm hoping that MOTS-C will help support fat loss, cardio endurance, stamina and energy levels. Afterall it is touted as a mitochondrial support peptide. And since this one has also been tested in humans so pretty easy decision to give it a run.

Here's a photo of my current condition literally taken at yesterdays workout:

View attachment 160623

@TheOne1 nice to see you back. We really did miss you. You've got a fantastic physique. My goodness, you are shredded.

 

[R.AP]

Hey everyone

I'm back to log a peptide cycle with a new lab supplying the Australian domestic market: @Prymal

I'll be sharing my training, diet, compound response and progress here over the next 6-7 weeks

My basic demographics:

• Age: Early 30s
• Training Experience: Intermediate, with ~12 years of natural strength training off and on based on my health at the time.
• Cycle History: I began doctor-prescribed TRT about 5 years ago due to primary hypogonadism. My base cycle is usually comprised of a TRT dose of Test E (245mg/week) and I have been running various doses of Mast E alongside it for the last year (yes i've well stocked up from before the shortage, so no problems on that end).
• General Health: I sustained a traumatic spinal cord injury (SCI) as a teenager, resulting in paralysis (paraplegia) from my mid-abdominals down. I use a manual wheelchair full time. I also manage sleep apnea with a CPAP machine and consistently get 6-8 hours of sleep every night. Otherwise, my health is very good. I do regular blood tests and imaging of my organs as part of my usual monitoring (even before using steroids).

Here is a copy of my latest blood tests (click on the image to enlarge):

View attachment 160618View attachment 160619

View attachment 160620View attachment 160621

My Current Cycle (self sourced):

- 245mg of Test E per week (split up into daily shots)
- 210mg of Mast E per week (split up into daily shots)
- 200mg of NPP per week (split up into daily shots)
- 4IU of generic HGH nightly

All of my compounds are legit and have been corroborated with previous blood tests. This is the first time I am trying NPP (any nandrolone actually) too btw. I started this specific list of compounds and dosages on December 2nd this year (so it's been a few weeks on so far).

I will be adding 10mg of MOTS-C about 30-60mins pre-workout moving forward supplied by @Prymal (see below):

View attachment 160627

Diet:​

My calorie requirements for maintenance are a bit different. Guidelines suggest that persons with SCI have reduced metabolic activity due to denervated muscle in my lower limbs and therefore need fewer calories than non-paralyzed individuals. So for someone like myself, it works out to be around ~30 calories per kg of body weight. So on the upper limit, 2400 calories are just for maintenance (pretty easy to hit on my appetite). I aim for 175-200g of daily protein intake every day. I meal prep most meals and have a set and predictable diet for the most part.

My Training:

Comprised of 4 training days per week and HIT cardio after it. On some days off I will also have a longer cardio session, but that infrequently atm.

Monday: Chest + Biceps + Shoulders
Tuesday: Back + Triceps + Shoulders
Thursday: Chest + Biceps + Shoulders
Saturday: Back + Triceps + Shoulders

No Leg days of course
My Goals:

It's summer here in Australia, so aiming on improving conditioning and and fullness are are my main focuses atm. Following that, a growth phase into the autumn and winter months in 2026.

I'm hoping that MOTS-C will help support fat loss, cardio endurance, stamina and energy levels. Afterall it is touted as a mitochondrial support peptide. And since this one has also been tested in humans so pretty easy decision to give it a run.

Here's a photo of my current condition literally taken at yesterdays workout:

View attachment 160623

Mate what a physique! Log is comprehensive. Good shit.

 

[Coolguy]

What a unit @TheOne1 love to have you back brother

 

[Made_Man]

Legs (Quads, Hamstrings, Glutes)

After a couple of days off due to the festive period it was good to be back. I definitely felt like i had a little extra energy. I have since added MOTS-C in to the mix for a little extra kick as im also looking at backing off the Reta untill i come to the back end of my cycle when im planning my shred

Food hasn't been best either however hasn’t been the worst either.

I have also received from @Wolfenstein who was happy to step up and help me along by throwing some supplies my way. What a true legend and gentleman, cant thank him enough

1 x Arimidex to help out with my estrogen

Below 3 to help activate my natural GH
1 x Ipamorelin
2 x CJC-1295
1 x Tesamorelin




9 exercises

Leg Press


198 lbs x 10 reps

396 lbs x 10 reps

595 lbs x 10 reps


Trap Bar Deadlift


121 lbs x 10 reps

165 lbs x 10 reps

187 lbs x 10 reps



Leg Extensions


127 lbs x 10 reps

138 lbs x 10 reps

149 lbs x 10 reps



Lying Leg Curl


88 lbs x 10 reps

99 lbs x 10 reps

110 lbs x 10 reps



Standing Calf Raise Machine


198 lbs x 15 reps

396 lbs x 10 reps

595 lbs x 10 reps

 

[Eddie Haskell]

Legs (Quads, Hamstrings, Glutes)

After a couple of days off due to the festive period it was good to be back. I definitely felt like i had a little extra energy. I have since added MOTS-C in to the mix for a little extra kick as im also looking at backing off the Reta untill i come to the back end of my cycle when im planning my shred

Food hasn't been best either however hasn’t been the worst either.

I have also received from @Wolfenstein who was happy to step up and help me along by throwing some supplies my way. What a true legend and gentleman, cant thank him enough

1 x Arimidex to help out with my estrogen

Below 3 to help activate my natural GH
1 x Ipamorelin
2 x CJC-1295
1 x Tesamorelin




9 exercises

Leg Press


198 lbs x 10 reps

396 lbs x 10 reps

595 lbs x 10 reps


Trap Bar Deadlift


121 lbs x 10 reps

165 lbs x 10 reps

187 lbs x 10 reps



Leg Extensions


127 lbs x 10 reps

138 lbs x 10 reps

149 lbs x 10 reps



Lying Leg Curl


88 lbs x 10 reps

99 lbs x 10 reps

110 lbs x 10 reps



Standing Calf Raise Machine


198 lbs x 15 reps

396 lbs x 10 reps

595 lbs x 10 reps

@Made_Man you posted in the wrong log thread by accident, please repost in your log:
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/testosterone-npp-masteron-cycle-log.108250/

 

[Mobster]

The Prymal stuff looks good.

 

[Ulter]

Hey everyone

I'm back to log a peptide cycle with a new lab supplying the Australian domestic market: @Prymal

I'll be sharing my training, diet, compound response and progress here over the next 6-7 weeks

My basic demographics:

• Age: Early 30s
• Training Experience: Intermediate, with ~12 years of natural strength training off and on based on my health at the time.
• Cycle History: I began doctor-prescribed TRT about 5 years ago due to primary hypogonadism. My base cycle is usually comprised of a TRT dose of Test E (245mg/week) and I have been running various doses of Mast E alongside it for the last year (yes i've well stocked up from before the shortage, so no problems on that end).
• General Health: I sustained a traumatic spinal cord injury (SCI) as a teenager, resulting in paralysis (paraplegia) from my mid-abdominals down. I use a manual wheelchair full time. I also manage sleep apnea with a CPAP machine and consistently get 6-8 hours of sleep every night. Otherwise, my health is very good. I do regular blood tests and imaging of my organs as part of my usual monitoring (even before using steroids).

Here is a copy of my latest blood tests (click on the image to enlarge):

View attachment 160618View attachment 160619

View attachment 160620View attachment 160621

My Current Cycle (self sourced):

- 245mg of Test E per week (split up into daily shots)
- 210mg of Mast E per week (split up into daily shots)
- 200mg of NPP per week (split up into daily shots)
- 4IU of generic HGH nightly

All of my compounds are legit and have been corroborated with previous blood tests. This is the first time I am trying NPP (any nandrolone actually) too btw. I started this specific list of compounds and dosages on December 2nd this year (so it's been a few weeks on so far).

I will be adding 10mg of MOTS-C about 30-60mins pre-workout moving forward supplied by @Prymal (see below):

View attachment 160627

Diet:​

My calorie requirements for maintenance are a bit different. Guidelines suggest that persons with SCI have reduced metabolic activity due to denervated muscle in my lower limbs and therefore need fewer calories than non-paralyzed individuals. So for someone like myself, it works out to be around ~30 calories per kg of body weight. So on the upper limit, 2400 calories are just for maintenance (pretty easy to hit on my appetite). I aim for 175-200g of daily protein intake every day. I meal prep most meals and have a set and predictable diet for the most part.

My Training:

Comprised of 4 training days per week and HIT cardio after it. On some days off I will also have a longer cardio session, but that infrequently atm.

Monday: Chest + Biceps + Shoulders
Tuesday: Back + Triceps + Shoulders
Thursday: Chest + Biceps + Shoulders
Saturday: Back + Triceps + Shoulders

No Leg days of course
My Goals:

It's summer here in Australia, so aiming on improving conditioning and and fullness are are my main focuses atm. Following that, a growth phase into the autumn and winter months in 2026.

I'm hoping that MOTS-C will help support fat loss, cardio endurance, stamina and energy levels. Afterall it is touted as a mitochondrial support peptide. And since this one has also been tested in humans so pretty easy decision to give it a run.

Here's a photo of my current condition literally taken at yesterdays workout:

View attachment 160623

This Motsy stuff sounds really good. A lot of our sources in America don't carry it or it's not in stock very much. So it's good to see you post this. I definitely am interested. @TheOne1

 

[Dreamer]

Looking absolutely crazy, this is one i will be following for sure

 

[ceo]

Hey everyone

I'm back to log a peptide cycle with a new lab supplying the Australian domestic market: @Prymal

I'll be sharing my training, diet, compound response and progress here over the next 6-7 weeks

My basic demographics:

• Age: Early 30s
• Training Experience: Intermediate, with ~12 years of natural strength training off and on based on my health at the time.
• Cycle History: I began doctor-prescribed TRT about 5 years ago due to primary hypogonadism. My base cycle is usually comprised of a TRT dose of Test E (245mg/week) and I have been running various doses of Mast E alongside it for the last year (yes i've well stocked up from before the shortage, so no problems on that end).
• General Health: I sustained a traumatic spinal cord injury (SCI) as a teenager, resulting in paralysis (paraplegia) from my mid-abdominals down. I use a manual wheelchair full time. I also manage sleep apnea with a CPAP machine and consistently get 6-8 hours of sleep every night. Otherwise, my health is very good. I do regular blood tests and imaging of my organs as part of my usual monitoring (even before using steroids).

Here is a copy of my latest blood tests (click on the image to enlarge):

View attachment 160618View attachment 160619

View attachment 160620View attachment 160621

My Current Cycle (self sourced):

- 245mg of Test E per week (split up into daily shots)
- 210mg of Mast E per week (split up into daily shots)
- 200mg of NPP per week (split up into daily shots)
- 4IU of generic HGH nightly

All of my compounds are legit and have been corroborated with previous blood tests. This is the first time I am trying NPP (any nandrolone actually) too btw. I started this specific list of compounds and dosages on December 2nd this year (so it's been a few weeks on so far).

I will be adding 10mg of MOTS-C about 30-60mins pre-workout moving forward supplied by @Prymal (see below):

View attachment 160627

Diet:​

My calorie requirements for maintenance are a bit different. Guidelines suggest that persons with SCI have reduced metabolic activity due to denervated muscle in my lower limbs and therefore need fewer calories than non-paralyzed individuals. So for someone like myself, it works out to be around ~30 calories per kg of body weight. So on the upper limit, 2400 calories are just for maintenance (pretty easy to hit on my appetite). I aim for 175-200g of daily protein intake every day. I meal prep most meals and have a set and predictable diet for the most part.

My Training:

Comprised of 4 training days per week and HIT cardio after it. On some days off I will also have a longer cardio session, but that infrequently atm.

Monday: Chest + Biceps + Shoulders
Tuesday: Back + Triceps + Shoulders
Thursday: Chest + Biceps + Shoulders
Saturday: Back + Triceps + Shoulders

No Leg days of course
My Goals:

It's summer here in Australia, so aiming on improving conditioning and and fullness are are my main focuses atm. Following that, a growth phase into the autumn and winter months in 2026.

I'm hoping that MOTS-C will help support fat loss, cardio endurance, stamina and energy levels. Afterall it is touted as a mitochondrial support peptide. And since this one has also been tested in humans so pretty easy decision to give it a run.

Here's a photo of my current condition literally taken at yesterdays workout:

View attachment 160623

Bros, you're one of my favorite loggers for sure. @TheOne1 I used to enjoy looking at your videos on the last one. Very motivational and I love the way you add the music to it.

 

[2Thick]

Hey everyone

I'm back to log a peptide cycle with a new lab supplying the Australian domestic market: @Prymal

I'll be sharing my training, diet, compound response and progress here over the next 6-7 weeks

My basic demographics:

• Age: Early 30s
• Training Experience: Intermediate, with ~12 years of natural strength training off and on based on my health at the time.
• Cycle History: I began doctor-prescribed TRT about 5 years ago due to primary hypogonadism. My base cycle is usually comprised of a TRT dose of Test E (245mg/week) and I have been running various doses of Mast E alongside it for the last year (yes i've well stocked up from before the shortage, so no problems on that end).
• General Health: I sustained a traumatic spinal cord injury (SCI) as a teenager, resulting in paralysis (paraplegia) from my mid-abdominals down. I use a manual wheelchair full time. I also manage sleep apnea with a CPAP machine and consistently get 6-8 hours of sleep every night. Otherwise, my health is very good. I do regular blood tests and imaging of my organs as part of my usual monitoring (even before using steroids).

Here is a copy of my latest blood tests (click on the image to enlarge):

View attachment 160618View attachment 160619

View attachment 160620View attachment 160621

My Current Cycle (self sourced):

- 245mg of Test E per week (split up into daily shots)
- 210mg of Mast E per week (split up into daily shots)
- 200mg of NPP per week (split up into daily shots)
- 4IU of generic HGH nightly

All of my compounds are legit and have been corroborated with previous blood tests. This is the first time I am trying NPP (any nandrolone actually) too btw. I started this specific list of compounds and dosages on December 2nd this year (so it's been a few weeks on so far).

I will be adding 10mg of MOTS-C about 30-60mins pre-workout moving forward supplied by @Prymal (see below):

View attachment 160627

Diet:​

My calorie requirements for maintenance are a bit different. Guidelines suggest that persons with SCI have reduced metabolic activity due to denervated muscle in my lower limbs and therefore need fewer calories than non-paralyzed individuals. So for someone like myself, it works out to be around ~30 calories per kg of body weight. So on the upper limit, 2400 calories are just for maintenance (pretty easy to hit on my appetite). I aim for 175-200g of daily protein intake every day. I meal prep most meals and have a set and predictable diet for the most part.

My Training:

Comprised of 4 training days per week and HIT cardio after it. On some days off I will also have a longer cardio session, but that infrequently atm.

Monday: Chest + Biceps + Shoulders
Tuesday: Back + Triceps + Shoulders
Thursday: Chest + Biceps + Shoulders
Saturday: Back + Triceps + Shoulders

No Leg days of course
My Goals:

It's summer here in Australia, so aiming on improving conditioning and and fullness are are my main focuses atm. Following that, a growth phase into the autumn and winter months in 2026.

I'm hoping that MOTS-C will help support fat loss, cardio endurance, stamina and energy levels. Afterall it is touted as a mitochondrial support peptide. And since this one has also been tested in humans so pretty easy decision to give it a run.

Here's a photo of my current condition literally taken at yesterdays workout:

View attachment 160623

@TheOne1 you are a unit, and you are a legend. You are also a huge inspiration and an important part of the EVO family. It's an honor to have you back posting on here. We always worry about our family when we don't see them post in a while.

 

[ROIDDERS]

Hey everyone

I'm back to log a peptide cycle with a new lab supplying the Australian domestic market: @Prymal

I'll be sharing my training, diet, compound response and progress here over the next 6-7 weeks

My basic demographics:

• Age: Early 30s
• Training Experience: Intermediate, with ~12 years of natural strength training off and on based on my health at the time.
• Cycle History: I began doctor-prescribed TRT about 5 years ago due to primary hypogonadism. My base cycle is usually comprised of a TRT dose of Test E (245mg/week) and I have been running various doses of Mast E alongside it for the last year (yes i've well stocked up from before the shortage, so no problems on that end).
• General Health: I sustained a traumatic spinal cord injury (SCI) as a teenager, resulting in paralysis (paraplegia) from my mid-abdominals down. I use a manual wheelchair full time. I also manage sleep apnea with a CPAP machine and consistently get 6-8 hours of sleep every night. Otherwise, my health is very good. I do regular blood tests and imaging of my organs as part of my usual monitoring (even before using steroids).

Here is a copy of my latest blood tests (click on the image to enlarge):

View attachment 160618View attachment 160619

View attachment 160620View attachment 160621

My Current Cycle (self sourced):

- 245mg of Test E per week (split up into daily shots)
- 210mg of Mast E per week (split up into daily shots)
- 200mg of NPP per week (split up into daily shots)
- 4IU of generic HGH nightly

All of my compounds are legit and have been corroborated with previous blood tests. This is the first time I am trying NPP (any nandrolone actually) too btw. I started this specific list of compounds and dosages on December 2nd this year (so it's been a few weeks on so far).

I will be adding 10mg of MOTS-C about 30-60mins pre-workout moving forward supplied by @Prymal (see below):

View attachment 160627

Diet:​

My calorie requirements for maintenance are a bit different. Guidelines suggest that persons with SCI have reduced metabolic activity due to denervated muscle in my lower limbs and therefore need fewer calories than non-paralyzed individuals. So for someone like myself, it works out to be around ~30 calories per kg of body weight. So on the upper limit, 2400 calories are just for maintenance (pretty easy to hit on my appetite). I aim for 175-200g of daily protein intake every day. I meal prep most meals and have a set and predictable diet for the most part.

My Training:

Comprised of 4 training days per week and HIT cardio after it. On some days off I will also have a longer cardio session, but that infrequently atm.

Monday: Chest + Biceps + Shoulders
Tuesday: Back + Triceps + Shoulders
Thursday: Chest + Biceps + Shoulders
Saturday: Back + Triceps + Shoulders

No Leg days of course
My Goals:

It's summer here in Australia, so aiming on improving conditioning and and fullness are are my main focuses atm. Following that, a growth phase into the autumn and winter months in 2026.

I'm hoping that MOTS-C will help support fat loss, cardio endurance, stamina and energy levels. Afterall it is touted as a mitochondrial support peptide. And since this one has also been tested in humans so pretty easy decision to give it a run.

Here's a photo of my current condition literally taken at yesterdays workout:

View attachment 160623

Thank you for going over the spinal injury. I couldn't remember what happened and why you had it in the first place from your last log. So I'm glad that you were able to be candid about it and open about it. You are an absolute beast, and your last logs were definitely fantastic. This one will be as well. @TheOne1

 

[waggat]

Hey everyone

I'm back to log a peptide cycle with a new lab supplying the Australian domestic market: @Prymal

I'll be sharing my training, diet, compound response and progress here over the next 6-7 weeks

My basic demographics:

• Age: Early 30s
• Training Experience: Intermediate, with ~12 years of natural strength training off and on based on my health at the time.
• Cycle History: I began doctor-prescribed TRT about 5 years ago due to primary hypogonadism. My base cycle is usually comprised of a TRT dose of Test E (245mg/week) and I have been running various doses of Mast E alongside it for the last year (yes i've well stocked up from before the shortage, so no problems on that end).
• General Health: I sustained a traumatic spinal cord injury (SCI) as a teenager, resulting in paralysis (paraplegia) from my mid-abdominals down. I use a manual wheelchair full time. I also manage sleep apnea with a CPAP machine and consistently get 6-8 hours of sleep every night. Otherwise, my health is very good. I do regular blood tests and imaging of my organs as part of my usual monitoring (even before using steroids).

Here is a copy of my latest blood tests (click on the image to enlarge):

View attachment 160618View attachment 160619

View attachment 160620View attachment 160621

My Current Cycle (self sourced):

- 245mg of Test E per week (split up into daily shots)
- 210mg of Mast E per week (split up into daily shots)
- 200mg of NPP per week (split up into daily shots)
- 4IU of generic HGH nightly

All of my compounds are legit and have been corroborated with previous blood tests. This is the first time I am trying NPP (any nandrolone actually) too btw. I started this specific list of compounds and dosages on December 2nd this year (so it's been a few weeks on so far).

I will be adding 10mg of MOTS-C about 30-60mins pre-workout moving forward supplied by @Prymal (see below):

View attachment 160627

Diet:​

My calorie requirements for maintenance are a bit different. Guidelines suggest that persons with SCI have reduced metabolic activity due to denervated muscle in my lower limbs and therefore need fewer calories than non-paralyzed individuals. So for someone like myself, it works out to be around ~30 calories per kg of body weight. So on the upper limit, 2400 calories are just for maintenance (pretty easy to hit on my appetite). I aim for 175-200g of daily protein intake every day. I meal prep most meals and have a set and predictable diet for the most part.

My Training:

Comprised of 4 training days per week and HIT cardio after it. On some days off I will also have a longer cardio session, but that infrequently atm.

Monday: Chest + Biceps + Shoulders
Tuesday: Back + Triceps + Shoulders
Thursday: Chest + Biceps + Shoulders
Saturday: Back + Triceps + Shoulders

No Leg days of course
My Goals:

It's summer here in Australia, so aiming on improving conditioning and and fullness are are my main focuses atm. Following that, a growth phase into the autumn and winter months in 2026.

I'm hoping that MOTS-C will help support fat loss, cardio endurance, stamina and energy levels. Afterall it is touted as a mitochondrial support peptide. And since this one has also been tested in humans so pretty easy decision to give it a run.

Here's a photo of my current condition literally taken at yesterdays workout:

View attachment 160623

Fuck mate your arms and shoulders are crazy. Will be good to see how you go with the MOTS-C.

 

[ballin2504]

Hey everyone

I'm back to log a peptide cycle with a new lab supplying the Australian domestic market: @Prymal

I'll be sharing my training, diet, compound response and progress here over the next 6-7 weeks

My basic demographics:

• Age: Early 30s
• Training Experience: Intermediate, with ~12 years of natural strength training off and on based on my health at the time.
• Cycle History: I began doctor-prescribed TRT about 5 years ago due to primary hypogonadism. My base cycle is usually comprised of a TRT dose of Test E (245mg/week) and I have been running various doses of Mast E alongside it for the last year (yes i've well stocked up from before the shortage, so no problems on that end).
• General Health: I sustained a traumatic spinal cord injury (SCI) as a teenager, resulting in paralysis (paraplegia) from my mid-abdominals down. I use a manual wheelchair full time. I also manage sleep apnea with a CPAP machine and consistently get 6-8 hours of sleep every night. Otherwise, my health is very good. I do regular blood tests and imaging of my organs as part of my usual monitoring (even before using steroids).

Here is a copy of my latest blood tests (click on the image to enlarge):

View attachment 160618View attachment 160619

View attachment 160620View attachment 160621

My Current Cycle (self sourced):

- 245mg of Test E per week (split up into daily shots)
- 210mg of Mast E per week (split up into daily shots)
- 200mg of NPP per week (split up into daily shots)
- 4IU of generic HGH nightly

All of my compounds are legit and have been corroborated with previous blood tests. This is the first time I am trying NPP (any nandrolone actually) too btw. I started this specific list of compounds and dosages on December 2nd this year (so it's been a few weeks on so far).

I will be adding 10mg of MOTS-C about 30-60mins pre-workout moving forward supplied by @Prymal (see below):

View attachment 160627

Diet:​

My calorie requirements for maintenance are a bit different. Guidelines suggest that persons with SCI have reduced metabolic activity due to denervated muscle in my lower limbs and therefore need fewer calories than non-paralyzed individuals. So for someone like myself, it works out to be around ~30 calories per kg of body weight. So on the upper limit, 2400 calories are just for maintenance (pretty easy to hit on my appetite). I aim for 175-200g of daily protein intake every day. I meal prep most meals and have a set and predictable diet for the most part.

My Training:

Comprised of 4 training days per week and HIT cardio after it. On some days off I will also have a longer cardio session, but that infrequently atm.

Monday: Chest + Biceps + Shoulders
Tuesday: Back + Triceps + Shoulders
Thursday: Chest + Biceps + Shoulders
Saturday: Back + Triceps + Shoulders

No Leg days of course
My Goals:

It's summer here in Australia, so aiming on improving conditioning and and fullness are are my main focuses atm. Following that, a growth phase into the autumn and winter months in 2026.

I'm hoping that MOTS-C will help support fat loss, cardio endurance, stamina and energy levels. Afterall it is touted as a mitochondrial support peptide. And since this one has also been tested in humans so pretty easy decision to give it a run.

Here's a photo of my current condition literally taken at yesterdays workout:

View attachment 160623

@TheOne1 looking like an absolute tank man your arms and shoulders are absolutely jacked

 

[RoySimpson]

Hey everyone

I'm back to log a peptide cycle with a new lab supplying the Australian domestic market: @Prymal

I'll be sharing my training, diet, compound response and progress here over the next 6-7 weeks

My basic demographics:

• Age: Early 30s
• Training Experience: Intermediate, with ~12 years of natural strength training off and on based on my health at the time.
• Cycle History: I began doctor-prescribed TRT about 5 years ago due to primary hypogonadism. My base cycle is usually comprised of a TRT dose of Test E (245mg/week) and I have been running various doses of Mast E alongside it for the last year (yes i've well stocked up from before the shortage, so no problems on that end).
• General Health: I sustained a traumatic spinal cord injury (SCI) as a teenager, resulting in paralysis (paraplegia) from my mid-abdominals down. I use a manual wheelchair full time. I also manage sleep apnea with a CPAP machine and consistently get 6-8 hours of sleep every night. Otherwise, my health is very good. I do regular blood tests and imaging of my organs as part of my usual monitoring (even before using steroids).

Here is a copy of my latest blood tests (click on the image to enlarge):

View attachment 160618View attachment 160619

View attachment 160620View attachment 160621

My Current Cycle (self sourced):

- 245mg of Test E per week (split up into daily shots)
- 210mg of Mast E per week (split up into daily shots)
- 200mg of NPP per week (split up into daily shots)
- 4IU of generic HGH nightly

All of my compounds are legit and have been corroborated with previous blood tests. This is the first time I am trying NPP (any nandrolone actually) too btw. I started this specific list of compounds and dosages on December 2nd this year (so it's been a few weeks on so far).

I will be adding 10mg of MOTS-C about 30-60mins pre-workout moving forward supplied by @Prymal (see below):

View attachment 160627

Diet:​

My calorie requirements for maintenance are a bit different. Guidelines suggest that persons with SCI have reduced metabolic activity due to denervated muscle in my lower limbs and therefore need fewer calories than non-paralyzed individuals. So for someone like myself, it works out to be around ~30 calories per kg of body weight. So on the upper limit, 2400 calories are just for maintenance (pretty easy to hit on my appetite). I aim for 175-200g of daily protein intake every day. I meal prep most meals and have a set and predictable diet for the most part.

My Training:

Comprised of 4 training days per week and HIT cardio after it. On some days off I will also have a longer cardio session, but that infrequently atm.

Monday: Chest + Biceps + Shoulders
Tuesday: Back + Triceps + Shoulders
Thursday: Chest + Biceps + Shoulders
Saturday: Back + Triceps + Shoulders

No Leg days of course
My Goals:

It's summer here in Australia, so aiming on improving conditioning and and fullness are are my main focuses atm. Following that, a growth phase into the autumn and winter months in 2026.

I'm hoping that MOTS-C will help support fat loss, cardio endurance, stamina and energy levels. Afterall it is touted as a mitochondrial support peptide. And since this one has also been tested in humans so pretty easy decision to give it a run.

Here's a photo of my current condition literally taken at yesterdays workout:

View attachment 160623

@TheOne1 Youre an absolute beast bro!

 

[EvoNexus]

Literally running the same cycle as me. Im 1 week in on my Mots-C. Will follow to a see how you progress.

respect bro… super detailed setup and you’re looking jacked — really wanna hear if MOTS-C actually bumps your stamina/conditioning like you’re hoping

 

[Prymal]

@TheOne1 any updates for us, how has the week been?

 

[TheOne1]

I really appreciate the support here

This forum has been a great source (pun intended) of motivation and inspiration for me

So here is the recap for my first week on MOTS-C:

I reconstituted my first vial with 1ml of BAC water, so 0.25ml per shot works out to be 10mg (each vial is 40mg).

Dissolved as expected, not immediately (which is normal for most peptides), but very clearly and I took my first shot SubQ about 40mins pre-workout. No PIP either (as expected).

I didn't feel any boost going into my workout and thought maybe it needs a few shots to get going... but it was working in the background quietly. I finished my usual set of volume (matching intensity and progressing my log book) in an unusually quicker time. I was resting with less time between sets, mainly because my heart rate was bouncing back quicker. I don't waste my time in the gym so the extra time was certainly welcomed.

ok, maybe that could be a placebo effect... well even if it was, i'll take it. Same trend across my next 3 workouts in the week and also energy to smash some HIT cardio too. So far my experience has been positive and i like the extra efficiency it has brought into my workouts. Also I have noticed a bit extra pump too. I'm looking forward to week 2 on this and seeing what else it can unlock as I use it more.

ps. not sure how people are getting anything out of MOTS-C with dosages in the single digits tbh. It's literally been studied even at 25mg per shot SubQ. See here: www. biospace.com/cohbar-announces-positive-topline-results-from-the-phase-1a-1b-study-of-cb4211-under-development-for-nash-and-obesity

 

[TheOne1]

Here's my end of week 1 progress pic:

 

[TheOne1]

A snapshot of my diet this week:

- 1 cup of rolled oats + 1 scoop of WPI + 2 tablespoons of peanut butter powder + a teaspoon of honey + skim milk + 1 handful of blueberries
- 2 scrambled eggs with tomato
- 1 cup of green tea
- Assorted vitamins

- One of my regular meal prep meals (chicken breast, rice and veggies with low calorie sweet and sour sauce)

- Cream of rice, skim milk, peanut butter powder and cacao powder
- 500g of low fat greek yogurt with 2 handfuls of blueberries

- Protein pasta in lamb mince with a sprinkle of cheese
- 2 slices of pineapple (to aid digestion)
- Low calorie cordial

- I forgot to take the before photo haha, so just imagine this was chicken breast and roast vegetables

- 500g of low fat greek yogurt + 2 handfuls of blueberries mixed in 1 tablespoon of no added sugar jam
- 1 granny smith apple for extra fibre

- 2 scrambled eggs in lean beef mince + spices
- 1 slice of wholemeal bread
- 1 apple and can og sugar free soda

- This week's cheat meal (a non-greasy triple smash beef burger with no cheese and some coconut water)

 

[Coolguy]

Fucking sick update that burger looks killer brother.

your build is amazing huge respect

 

[Prymal]

Fucking sick update that burger looks killer brother.

your build is amazing huge respect

+1 big respect, glad to have you on the Prymal team @TheOne1

+1 on the Cocobella too

Looks like a great weak overall

 

[LevButlerov]

I really appreciate the support here

This forum has been a great source (pun intended) of motivation and inspiration for me

So here is the recap for my first week on MOTS-C:

I reconstituted my first vial with 1ml of BAC water, so 0.25ml per shot works out to be 10mg (each vial is 40mg).

Dissolved as expected, not immediately (which is normal for most peptides), but very clearly and I took my first shot SubQ about 40mins pre-workout. No PIP either (as expected).

I didn't feel any boost going into my workout and thought maybe it needs a few shots to get going... but it was working in the background quietly. I finished my usual set of volume (matching intensity and progressing my log book) in an unusually quicker time. I was resting with less time between sets, mainly because my heart rate was bouncing back quicker. I don't waste my time in the gym so the extra time was certainly welcomed.

ok, maybe that could be a placebo effect... well even if it was, i'll take it. Same trend across my next 3 workouts in the week and also energy to smash some HIT cardio too. So far my experience has been positive and i like the extra efficiency it has brought into my workouts. Also I have noticed a bit extra pump too. I'm looking forward to week 2 on this and seeing what else it can unlock as I use it more.

ps. not sure how people are getting anything out of MOTS-C with dosages in the single digits tbh. It's literally been studied even at 25mg per shot SubQ. See here: www. biospace.com/cohbar-announces-positive-topline-results-from-the-phase-1a-1b-study-of-cb4211-under-development-for-nash-and-obesity

I really appreciate the support here

This forum has been a great source (pun intended) of motivation and inspiration for me

So here is the recap for my first week on MOTS-C:

I reconstituted my first vial with 1ml of BAC water, so 0.25ml per shot works out to be 10mg (each vial is 40mg).

Dissolved as expected, not immediately (which is normal for most peptides), but very clearly and I took my first shot SubQ about 40mins pre-workout. No PIP either (as expected).

I didn't feel any boost going into my workout and thought maybe it needs a few shots to get going... but it was working in the background quietly. I finished my usual set of volume (matching intensity and progressing my log book) in an unusually quicker time. I was resting with less time between sets, mainly because my heart rate was bouncing back quicker. I don't waste my time in the gym so the extra time was certainly welcomed.

ok, maybe that could be a placebo effect... well even if it was, i'll take it. Same trend across my next 3 workouts in the week and also energy to smash some HIT cardio too. So far my experience has been positive and i like the extra efficiency it has brought into my workouts. Also I have noticed a bit extra pump too. I'm looking forward to week 2 on this and seeing what else it can unlock as I use it more.

ps. not sure how people are getting anything out of MOTS-C with dosages in the single digits tbh. It's literally been studied even at 25mg per shot SubQ. See here: www. biospace.com/cohbar-announces-positive-topline-results-from-the-phase-1a-1b-study-of-cb4211-under-development-for-nash-and-obesity

I really appreciate the support here

This forum has been a great source (pun intended) of motivation and inspiration for me

So here is the recap for my first week on MOTS-C:

I reconstituted my first vial with 1ml of BAC water, so 0.25ml per shot works out to be 10mg (each vial is 40mg).

Dissolved as expected, not immediately (which is normal for most peptides), but very clearly and I took my first shot SubQ about 40mins pre-workout. No PIP either (as expected).

I didn't feel any boost going into my workout and thought maybe it needs a few shots to get going... but it was working in the background quietly. I finished my usual set of volume (matching intensity and progressing my log book) in an unusually quicker time. I was resting with less time between sets, mainly because my heart rate was bouncing back quicker. I don't waste my time in the gym so the extra time was certainly welcomed.

ok, maybe that could be a placebo effect... well even if it was, i'll take it. Same trend across my next 3 workouts in the week and also energy to smash some HIT cardio too. So far my experience has been positive and i like the extra efficiency it has brought into my workouts. Also I have noticed a bit extra pump too. I'm looking forward to week 2 on this and seeing what else it can unlock as I use it more.

ps. not sure how people are getting anything out of MOTS-C with dosages in the single digits tbh. It's literally been studied even at 25mg per shot SubQ. See here: www. biospace.com/cohbar-announces-positive-topline-results-from-the-phase-1a-1b-study-of-cb4211-under-development-for-nash-and-obesity

Here's my end of week 1 progress pic:

View attachment 163349

You're looking nice and pumped @TheOne1 thick mass! and love your food share

on the mots c it will take tiem to feel anything imo

@BeMe @HarleyGuy @s.gentz
@Allupfromhere @Pigsy @Dreamer @Freki @R.AP
@waggat @Yuri @rizzlekdizzle @Grumpy

A snapshot of my diet this week:

- 1 cup of rolled oats + 1 scoop of WPI + 2 tablespoons of peanut butter powder + a teaspoon of honey + skim milk + 1 handful of blueberries
- 2 scrambled eggs with tomato
- 1 cup of green tea
- Assorted vitamins

View attachment 163351

- One of my regular meal prep meals (chicken breast, rice and veggies with low calorie sweet and sour sauce)
View attachment 163352

- Cream of rice, skim milk, peanut butter powder and cacao powder
- 500g of low fat greek yogurt with 2 handfuls of blueberries
View attachment 163353

- Protein pasta in lamb mince with a sprinkle of cheese
- 2 slices of pineapple (to aid digestion)
- Low calorie cordial
View attachment 163354

- I forgot to take the before photo haha, so just imagine this was chicken breast and roast vegetables
View attachment 163355

- 500g of low fat greek yogurt + 2 handfuls of blueberries mixed in 1 tablespoon of no added sugar jam
- 1 granny smith apple for extra fibre

View attachment 163356

- 2 scrambled eggs in lean beef mince + spices
- 1 slice of wholemeal bread
- 1 apple and can og sugar free soda
View attachment 163358

- This week's cheat meal (a non-greasy triple smash beef burger with no cheese and some coconut water)
View attachment 163359

 

[HarleyGuy]

I really appreciate the support here

This forum has been a great source (pun intended) of motivation and inspiration for me

So here is the recap for my first week on MOTS-C:

I reconstituted my first vial with 1ml of BAC water, so 0.25ml per shot works out to be 10mg (each vial is 40mg).

Dissolved as expected, not immediately (which is normal for most peptides), but very clearly and I took my first shot SubQ about 40mins pre-workout. No PIP either (as expected).

I didn't feel any boost going into my workout and thought maybe it needs a few shots to get going... but it was working in the background quietly. I finished my usual set of volume (matching intensity and progressing my log book) in an unusually quicker time. I was resting with less time between sets, mainly because my heart rate was bouncing back quicker. I don't waste my time in the gym so the extra time was certainly welcomed.

ok, maybe that could be a placebo effect... well even if it was, i'll take it. Same trend across my next 3 workouts in the week and also energy to smash some HIT cardio too. So far my experience has been positive and i like the extra efficiency it has brought into my workouts. Also I have noticed a bit extra pump too. I'm looking forward to week 2 on this and seeing what else it can unlock as I use it more.

ps. not sure how people are getting anything out of MOTS-C with dosages in the single digits tbh. It's literally been studied even at 25mg per shot SubQ. See here: www. biospace.com/cohbar-announces-positive-topline-results-from-the-phase-1a-1b-study-of-cb4211-under-development-for-nash-and-obesity

You food looks absolutely device bro!

And this is starting out as the best MOTS-C review log I've read. Very interested to follow along on this!

 

[Allupfromhere]

Absolute dynamite updates brother! And fuck you go some of the best hammers getting around these stomping grounds

ps. not sure how people are getting anything out of MOTS-C with dosages in the single digits tbh. It's literally been studied even at 25mg per shot SubQ. See here: www. biospace.com/cohbar-announces-positive-topline-results-from-the-phase-1a-1b-study-of-cb4211-under-development-for-nash-and-obesity

I had a read of this study brother and the aim of what was set out to be achieved in this wasnt to measure energy levels amplified by the use of motc c but if direct effect on reducing impact from chronic diseases like nonalcoholic steatohepatitis and other fatty liver disease.

There is a misunderstanding, but a huge favour and interest, currently when approaching mitochondrial enhancements.

Several compounds, most new and mots c being but 1 of them, each have a singular role and their own functions but amalgamated is where they truely shine in mitochondrial upregulation.

First we need to understand the importance of mitochondria and its influence on how our bodies function from it.

What happens when we make our mitochondria more efficient?
Everything work better, better energy, body becomes more efficient at burning fat for fuel, better mental clarity and better overall health.

One google search on mitochondria and you will see why upregulating them is insanely beneficial to our bodies.

Rather then singularly relying on one compound for this you may find the combination better achieving what it seems like your looking for bro.

Injectable l-carnitine -
plays a crucial role in energy production by transporting fatty acids into the cells mitochondria to be burnt for fuel.

Mots c -
enhances the carnitine shuttle pathway and promotes efficient use of fuel, reducing fat accumulation and improving glucose uptake, making it beneficial for metabolic disorders, whereas L-Carnitine is essential for the fundamental transport of fats for energy.

SLU-PP332 -
Mimics the effects of exercise, potentially leading to increased mitochondrial function, enhanced energy expenditure, and better fat utilization as fuel during rest and exercise.

Ss31 -
Binds to cardiolipin, improving electron transfer, boosting ATP, and protecting mitochondrial structure.


Each individual pathway that synergise well together for the same ultimate goal.

Im but scratching the surface with my research on this but i am almost certain the the focus on interest in this area moving foward will see a completely shifted trend in the next 12 months and for good reason.

@Cg20 @R.AP Have a much more comprehensive understanding of this area though.

 

[Pigsy]

Good read this log

 

[Cg20]

I really appreciate the support here

This forum has been a great source (pun intended) of motivation and inspiration for me

So here is the recap for my first week on MOTS-C:

I reconstituted my first vial with 1ml of BAC water, so 0.25ml per shot works out to be 10mg (each vial is 40mg).

Dissolved as expected, not immediately (which is normal for most peptides), but very clearly and I took my first shot SubQ about 40mins pre-workout. No PIP either (as expected).

I didn't feel any boost going into my workout and thought maybe it needs a few shots to get going... but it was working in the background quietly. I finished my usual set of volume (matching intensity and progressing my log book) in an unusually quicker time. I was resting with less time between sets, mainly because my heart rate was bouncing back quicker. I don't waste my time in the gym so the extra time was certainly welcomed.

ok, maybe that could be a placebo effect... well even if it was, i'll take it. Same trend across my next 3 workouts in the week and also energy to smash some HIT cardio too. So far my experience has been positive and i like the extra efficiency it has brought into my workouts. Also I have noticed a bit extra pump too. I'm looking forward to week 2 on this and seeing what else it can unlock as I use it more.

ps. not sure how people are getting anything out of MOTS-C with dosages in the single digits tbh. It's literally been studied even at 25mg per shot SubQ. See here: www. biospace.com/cohbar-announces-positive-topline-results-from-the-phase-1a-1b-study-of-cb4211-under-development-for-nash-and-obesity

@Allupfromhere has nailed it, but the compound is unbelievably effective at the 1-2mg per day range and it’s what I’ll put the guys on that I coach. If you keep running that dosage for much longer you’re going to have to supplement with methyl folate, because the amount your body produces won’t cut it, and you’ll notice it start to go the other way in terms of energy, fatigue etc.

Mitochondrial upregulators work in synergy, they all have their own unique impacts, but when you pair them together it’s like a 1+1=3 impact, that’s what I’m aiming for when putting my guys on these compounds, upregulate your mitochondria and reap the rewards of it, enhanced fat loss, enhanced insulin sensitivity, etc the list goes on.

 

[TheOne1]

Rather then singularly relying on one compound for this you may find the combination better achieving what it seems like your looking for bro.

Injectable l-carnitine -
plays a crucial role in energy production by transporting fatty acids into the cells mitochondria to be burnt for fuel.

Mots c -
enhances the carnitine shuttle pathway and promotes efficient use of fuel, reducing fat accumulation and improving glucose uptake, making it beneficial for metabolic disorders, whereas L-Carnitine is essential for the fundamental transport of fats for energy.

SLU-PP332 -
Mimics the effects of exercise, potentially leading to increased mitochondrial function, enhanced energy expenditure, and better fat utilization as fuel during rest and exercise.

Ss31 -
Binds to cardiolipin, improving electron transfer, boosting ATP, and protecting mitochondrial structure.

I've been using injectable l-carnitine as a pwo for the last couple of months and kept it as a staple in my stack since.

I've also experimented with SLU-PP332 this year. I used 250mcg PWO and got some decent results too. Blood work optimised as a result too.

I haven't tried SS31 yet tho, but have heard some really encouraging things about it and i'm keen to give that a go soon.

In terms of stacking multiple peptides, i haven't tried this yet. But once i've got enough data on myself with each one individually, I think its the next step to see what combo takes it even further.

@Allupfromhere has nailed it, but the compound is unbelievably effective at the 1-2mg per day range and it’s what I’ll put the guys on that I coach. If you keep running that dosage for much longer you’re going to have to supplement with methyl folate, because the amount your body produces won’t cut it, and you’ll notice it start to go the other way in terms of energy, fatigue etc.

Mitochondrial upregulators work in synergy, they all have their own unique impacts, but when you pair them together it’s like a 1+1=3 impact, that’s what I’m aiming for when putting my guys on these compounds, upregulate your mitochondria and reap the rewards of it, enhanced fat loss, enhanced insulin sensitivity, etc the list goes on.

I appreciate your insight bro That's really interesting

I've tested my homocysteine levels recently and they came back pretty good, so hopefully no methylation issues. But will definitely test it again to see if MOTS-c has impacted that. I do add 2g of TMG in the morning just because of my existing test/npp/mast/gh cycle.

 

[TheOne1]

Today's post workout pump pic:

Had an arms day. It's usually chest and biceps day today but i picked up a small injury on Saturday. Felt a sharp pinch on the smith machine press and decided to give it a rest today. Nothing serious, no inflammation or residual tightness, just precautionary and will ease back into chest later this week if everything is ok.

 

[LevButlerov]

Today's post workout pump pic:

Had an arms day. It's usually chest and biceps day today but i picked up a small injury on Saturday. Felt a sharp pinch on the smith machine press and decided to give it a rest today. Nothing serious, no inflammation or residual tightness, just precautionary and will ease back into chest later this week if everything is ok.

View attachment 164122

super pump love to see it @TheOne1
are you doing bpc around the injury?

@BeMe @HarleyGuy @s.gentz
@Allupfromhere @Pigsy @Dreamer @Freki @R.AP
@waggat @Yuri @rizzlekdizzle @Grumpy

 

[waggat]

A snapshot of my diet this week:

- 1 cup of rolled oats + 1 scoop of WPI + 2 tablespoons of peanut butter powder + a teaspoon of honey + skim milk + 1 handful of blueberries
- 2 scrambled eggs with tomato
- 1 cup of green tea
- Assorted vitamins

View attachment 163351

- One of my regular meal prep meals (chicken breast, rice and veggies with low calorie sweet and sour sauce)
View attachment 163352

- Cream of rice, skim milk, peanut butter powder and cacao powder
- 500g of low fat greek yogurt with 2 handfuls of blueberries
View attachment 163353

- Protein pasta in lamb mince with a sprinkle of cheese
- 2 slices of pineapple (to aid digestion)
- Low calorie cordial
View attachment 163354

- I forgot to take the before photo haha, so just imagine this was chicken breast and roast vegetables
View attachment 163355

- 500g of low fat greek yogurt + 2 handfuls of blueberries mixed in 1 tablespoon of no added sugar jam
- 1 granny smith apple for extra fibre

View attachment 163356

- 2 scrambled eggs in lean beef mince + spices
- 1 slice of wholemeal bread
- 1 apple and can og sugar free soda
View attachment 163358

- This week's cheat meal (a non-greasy triple smash beef burger with no cheese and some coconut water)
View attachment 163359

Awesome collection of meals mate.

Today's post workout pump pic:

Had an arms day. It's usually chest and biceps day today but i picked up a small injury on Saturday. Felt a sharp pinch on the smith machine press and decided to give it a rest today. Nothing serious, no inflammation or residual tightness, just precautionary and will ease back into chest later this week if everything is ok.

View attachment 164122

Looking jacked AF here!

 

[R.AP]

I really appreciate the support here

This forum has been a great source (pun intended) of motivation and inspiration for me

So here is the recap for my first week on MOTS-C:

I reconstituted my first vial with 1ml of BAC water, so 0.25ml per shot works out to be 10mg (each vial is 40mg).

Dissolved as expected, not immediately (which is normal for most peptides), but very clearly and I took my first shot SubQ about 40mins pre-workout. No PIP either (as expected).

I didn't feel any boost going into my workout and thought maybe it needs a few shots to get going... but it was working in the background quietly. I finished my usual set of volume (matching intensity and progressing my log book) in an unusually quicker time. I was resting with less time between sets, mainly because my heart rate was bouncing back quicker. I don't waste my time in the gym so the extra time was certainly welcomed.

ok, maybe that could be a placebo effect... well even if it was, i'll take it. Same trend across my next 3 workouts in the week and also energy to smash some HIT cardio too. So far my experience has been positive and i like the extra efficiency it has brought into my workouts. Also I have noticed a bit extra pump too. I'm looking forward to week 2 on this and seeing what else it can unlock as I use it more.

ps. not sure how people are getting anything out of MOTS-C with dosages in the single digits tbh. It's literally been studied even at 25mg per shot SubQ. See here: www. biospace.com/cohbar-announces-positive-topline-results-from-the-phase-1a-1b-study-of-cb4211-under-development-for-nash-and-obesity

The impact the Mito supports peptides and molecules have on your training endurance and, like you said, after a couple of weeks, your day-to-day energy, cannot be understated.

Not sure of what your budget looks like at the moment brother but if you can also get some SLUPP332, SS31 and 5 Amino 1MQ into your roster you'll be winning.

Even though studies have been conducted at X dose, it doesn't mean that translates directly to a recommended dose. Long-term exposure of these compounds still hasn't been thoroughly explored so conservative doses are recommended.

Plus, if you're doing the full stack, the synergy means you shouldn't have to run much of each to have a pronounced effect.

@LevButlerov

 

[Dreamer]

Today's post workout pump pic:

Had an arms day. It's usually chest and biceps day today but i picked up a small injury on Saturday. Felt a sharp pinch on the smith machine press and decided to give it a rest today. Nothing serious, no inflammation or residual tightness, just precautionary and will ease back into chest later this week if everything is ok.

View attachment 164122

Arms looking absolutely mental man. Your forearms are crazy!

 

[TheOne1]

super pump love to see it @TheOne1
are you doing bpc around the injury?

@BeMe @HarleyGuy @s.gentz
@Allupfromhere @Pigsy @Dreamer @Freki @R.AP
@waggat @Yuri @rizzlekdizzle @Grumpy

I'm tempted to plug in BPC, but just want to assess the injury first. I don't think its a tear. It been 72hrs post strain, so the inflammatory stage is past now and my ROM on that side feels pretty comfortable. I'll have a light chest session later this week to feel it out more.

The impact the Mito supports peptides and molecules have on your training endurance and, like you said, after a couple of weeks, your day-to-day energy, cannot be understated.

Not sure of what your budget looks like at the moment brother but if you can also get some SLUPP332, SS31 and 5 Amino 1MQ into your roster you'll be winning.

Even though studies have been conducted at X dose, it doesn't mean that translates directly to a recommended dose. Long-term exposure of these compounds still hasn't been thoroughly explored so conservative doses are recommended.

Plus, if you're doing the full stack, the synergy means you shouldn't have to run much of each to have a pronounced effect.

@LevButlerov

Yep, that makes a lot of sense!

from yoru experience, which one or combo has worked best?

 

[R.AP]

I'm tempted to plug in BPC, but just want to assess the injury first. I don't think its a tear. It been 72hrs post strain, so the inflammatory stage is past now and my ROM on that side feels pretty comfortable. I'll have a light chest session later this week to feel it out more.


Yep, that makes a lot of sense!

from yoru experience, which one or combo has worked best?

Depends on your budget brother. I've done a smaller stack in the past consisting of 5 Amino and Methylene blue, which yielded greater energy and noticeably improved fat loss over the usual routine.

Currently I'm on another contest prep:

SLUPP332 100mg/ day
MotsC 2mg/ day
SS31 2mg/ day
Injectable 5 Amino 1MQ 4mg/ day
Methylene Blue 10mg/ day
Injectable NAD 10mg/ day

And I cannot understate just how profound not only the rate of fat loss is (at calories notably higher than previous preps), but also how high my energy is too during this contest prep. Absolutely game changing.

All of this dependent of course on nutrition, output and recovery that is dialed in. These are the FOUNDATIONS of any physique related goal.

@HeliosLabs has the goodies brother.

Code RAP10 to save a bit of pocket.

 

[LevButlerov]

I'm tempted to plug in BPC, but just want to assess the injury first. I don't think its a tear. It been 72hrs post strain, so the inflammatory stage is past now and my ROM on that side feels pretty comfortable. I'll have a light chest session later this week to feel it out more.

If you're ok during chest session sure but if you feel some pain lets plug in bpc @TheOne1

 

[TheOne1]

Depends on your budget brother. I've done a smaller stack in the past consisting of 5 Amino and Methylene blue, which yielded greater energy and noticeably improved fat loss over the usual routine.

Currently I'm on another contest prep:

SLUPP332 100mg/ day
MotsC 2mg/ day
SS31 2mg/ day
Injectable 5 Amino 1MQ 4mg/ day
Methylene Blue 10mg/ day
Injectable NAD 10mg/ day

And I cannot understate just how profound not only the rate of fat loss is (at calories notably higher than previous preps), but also how high my energy is too during this contest prep. Absolutely game changing.

All of this dependent of course on nutrition, output and recovery that is dialed in. These are the FOUNDATIONS of any physique related goal.

@HeliosLabs has the goodies brother.

Code RAP10 to save a bit of pocket.

I've got a bottle of 250mcg SLUPP332 capsules on hand but don't have any of the other compounds that you have mentioned.
Would you recommend lowering the MOTS-C dosage and adding SLUPP332?
What are your thoughts on keeping it pre workout or using it everyday?

 

[R.AP]

I've got a bottle of 250mcg SLUPP332 capsules on hand but don't have any of the other compounds that you have mentioned.
Would you recommend lowering the MOTS-C dosage and adding SLUPP332?
What are your thoughts on keeping it pre workout or using it everyday?

Keep the MotsC in brother, add in the SLU but jack the dose right up to 40mg/ day starting. See if you can't source a bulk SLU powder provider! I'm not sure if EVO has any verified ones? @LevButlerov ?

 

[AVMetal_mulisha]

Depends on your budget brother. I've done a smaller stack in the past consisting of 5 Amino and Methylene blue, which yielded greater energy and noticeably improved fat loss over the usual routine.

Currently I'm on another contest prep:

SLUPP332 100mg/ day
MotsC 2mg/ day
SS31 2mg/ day
Injectable 5 Amino 1MQ 4mg/ day
Methylene Blue 10mg/ day
Injectable NAD 10mg/ day

And I cannot understate just how profound not only the rate of fat loss is (at calories notably higher than previous preps), but also how high my energy is too during this contest prep. Absolutely game changing.

All of this dependent of course on nutrition, output and recovery that is dialed in. These are the FOUNDATIONS of any physique related goal.

@HeliosLabs has the goodies brother.

Code RAP10 to save a bit of pocket.

Mate - very interested in this stack. How long did you run it for? the SLUpp332 seems very high but thats all annecodotal data on what should be run. How did you end up with this?

Also with the NAD+, any issues with injecting? i.e. I've heard can feel like a elephant on your chest, palpitations etc. Would love to know more about the entire stack.

 

[fingers86]

Keep the MotsC in brother, add in the SLU but jack the dose right up to 40mg/ day starting. See if you can't source a bulk SLU powder provider! I'm not sure if EVO has any verified ones? @LevButlerov ?

I wish i could afford that high of use. 3mg is about as much as i can afford. Any sides at 40? I sweat balls at this level but abbundance of energy and fat seems to be melting away finally

 

[fingers86]

Was wondering if id get benifit adding 5 amino but pinning so much as it is. Did u find it amplified everything?

 

[Iron_rose1]

I just came across your log. You look amazing!!

 

[R.AP]

I wish i could afford that high of use. 3mg is about as much as i can afford. Any sides at 40? I sweat balls at this level but abbundance of energy and fat seems to be melting away finally

Yeah even a few mg when stacked with the other Mito support ancillaries can make a huge difference. If you're currently buying your SLUPP332 pre-capsuled you might like to find a provider who does bulk SLU powder instead. A few going around now.

@LevButlerov I know we don't have Helios on here any more, can you recommend any others?

 

[R.AP]

Was wondering if id get benifit adding 5 amino but pinning so much as it is. Did u find it amplified everything?

Definitely bro, each compound stacked provides a noticeable improvement. The full stack is

SLU
5 Amino
SS31
Mot C
NAD
Methylene Blue

But yeah, there is a LOT of pinning! I have anywhere between 7 and 10 a day if you include the Tirz, oils and GHK.

 

[R.AP]

I just came across your log. You look amazing!!

Thanks Rose <3

 

[fingers86]

Definitely bro, each compound stacked provides a noticeable improvement. The full stack is

SLU
5 Amino
SS31
Mot C
NAD
Methylene Blue

But yeah, there is a LOT of pinning! I have anywhere between 7 and 10 a day if you include the Tirz, oils and GHK.

Id love to do ss-31 but get expensive the way i want to try it lol. Yeah definately feel like a pin cushion. Currently using
Mots-c
Slu
Klow
Gh
Reta
Test
Npp
Bout to add selank awaiting delivery
Going to need to create a bodmap to show places ive used each week lol.

 

[fingers86]

Yeah even a few mg when stacked with the other Mito support ancillaries can make a huge difference. If you're currently buying your SLUPP332 pre-capsuled you might like to find a provider who does bulk SLU powder instead. A few going around now.

@LevButlerov I know we don't have Helios on here any more, can you recommend any others?

FOund norvex with powder so ordered 5g. Time to accelerate!

 

[R.AP]

Id love to do ss-31 but get expensive the way i want to try it lol. Yeah definately feel like a pin cushion. Currently using
Mots-c
Slu
Klow
Gh
Reta
Test
Npp
Bout to add selank awaiting delivery
Going to need to create a bodmap to show places ive used each week lol.

FOund norvex with powder so ordered 5g. Time to accelerate!

Curious to see what your experience with Selank is on its own! I'm considering it and Semax.

 

[LevButlerov]

Yeah even a few mg when stacked with the other Mito support ancillaries can make a huge difference. If you're currently buying your SLUPP332 pre-capsuled you might like to find a provider who does bulk SLU powder instead. A few going around now.

@LevButlerov I know we don't have Helios on here any more, can you recommend any others?

I can only recommend our q4 approved list @R.AP
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/top-trusted-aussie-vendors-2025-q4.107247/

 

[R.AP]

I can only recommend our q4 approved list @R.AP
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/top-trusted-aussie-vendors-2025-q4.107247/

Thanks Lev!

 

[TheOne1]

Week 2 Update:

I kept the dose of 10mg of MOTS-c preworkout but added ~100mcg of SLUPP332. The synergy has been fantastic. I'm tempted to reduce my MOTS-c dose to gauge if I can still get a good response from it given the introduction of SLUPP332.

Energy levels are great, workouts are efficient... however I do feel like i overheat and sweat much more haha. Post-workout tho, I do feel more gassed out and just needa lay down on my bed when i get home haha. Have slacked on cardio this week too as a result.

I'm really happy with this combo. I'm wondering if i can run it long term since I currently use it 4 times a week.

Here's a pump pic from Thursday's workout:

 

[LevButlerov]

Week 2 Update:

I kept the dose of 10mg of MOTS-c preworkout but added ~100mcg of SLUPP332. The synergy has been fantastic. I'm tempted to reduce my MOTS-c dose to gauge if I can still get a good response from it given the introduction of SLUPP332.

Energy levels are great, workouts are efficient... however I do feel like i overheat and sweat much more haha. Post-workout tho, I do feel more gassed out and just needa lay down on my bed when i get home haha. Have slacked on cardio this week too as a result.

I'm really happy with this combo. I'm wondering if i can run it long term since I currently use it 4 times a week.

Here's a pump pic from Thursday's workout:

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mots-c and slupp332 interested to see how you're doing on them longer term @TheOne1
i would try to cut mots and see how slupp works, hard to know what dose is best bfor you.

how is your training going?

@BeMe @HarleyGuy @s.gentz
@Allupfromhere @Pigsy @Dreamer @Freki @R.AP
@waggat @Yuri @rizzlekdizzle @Grumpy
@Coolguy @toddthelineman @Sheshredz
@Trenhead3cc

 

[Dreamer]

Week 2 Update:

I kept the dose of 10mg of MOTS-c preworkout but added ~100mcg of SLUPP332. The synergy has been fantastic. I'm tempted to reduce my MOTS-c dose to gauge if I can still get a good response from it given the introduction of SLUPP332.

Energy levels are great, workouts are efficient... however I do feel like i overheat and sweat much more haha. Post-workout tho, I do feel more gassed out and just needa lay down on my bed when i get home haha. Have slacked on cardio this week too as a result.

I'm really happy with this combo. I'm wondering if i can run it long term since I currently use it 4 times a week.

Here's a pump pic from Thursday's workout:

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You might find lowering the dosages helps with that gassed feeling brother, I went straight to 5mg daily mots and 100mg slu, and same as you my session would be killer, sweat beading and felt great but just crasssssshed.

I found 1.5mg mots and 30mg slu I have energy all day now.

 

[waggat]

Week 2 Update:

I kept the dose of 10mg of MOTS-c preworkout but added ~100mcg of SLUPP332. The synergy has been fantastic. I'm tempted to reduce my MOTS-c dose to gauge if I can still get a good response from it given the introduction of SLUPP332.

Energy levels are great, workouts are efficient... however I do feel like i overheat and sweat much more haha. Post-workout tho, I do feel more gassed out and just needa lay down on my bed when i get home haha. Have slacked on cardio this week too as a result.

I'm really happy with this combo. I'm wondering if i can run it long term since I currently use it 4 times a week.

Here's a pump pic from Thursday's workout:

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Good to hear the results you're getting energy wise.

Looking sick in that photo mate! Massive arms and shoulders!

 

[TheOne1]

mots-c and slupp332 interested to see how you're doing on them longer term @TheOne1
i would try to cut mots and see how slupp works, hard to know what dose is best bfor you.

how is your training going?

@BeMe @HarleyGuy @s.gentz
@Allupfromhere @Pigsy @Dreamer @Freki @R.AP
@waggat @Yuri @rizzlekdizzle @Grumpy
@Coolguy @toddthelineman @Sheshredz
@Trenhead3cc

I have switched up my training style from last log.

I do 2 working sets to failure for each exercise, and usually select 2 exercises per body part and train shoulders every sesh. I aim for rep ranges around 6-8. Tbh i've had the most growth over the last 3 months with this style.

I have 2 training sessions that i repeat during the week making it 4 sessions a week in total and do 2 cardio sessions in the remaining days.

Day 1: Chest + Biceps + Shoulders
Day 2: Back + Triceps + Shoulders

For shoulders I have literally only been doing cable lateral raises and cable rear delt flies.

I'm changing gyms in a couple of weeks, so will start a new training bloc from there.

 

[LevButlerov]

I have switched up my training style from last log.

I do 2 working sets to failure for each exercise, and usually select 2 exercises per body part and train shoulders every sesh. I aim for rep ranges around 6-8. Tbh i've had the most growth over the last 3 months with this style.

I have 2 training sessions that i repeat during the week making it 4 sessions a week in total and do 2 cardio sessions in the remaining days.

Day 1: Chest + Biceps + Shoulders
Day 2: Back + Triceps + Shoulders

For shoulders I have literally only been doing cable lateral raises and cable rear delt flies.

I'm changing gyms in a couple of weeks, so will start a new training bloc from there.

nice I like to failure but any pains on shoulders? you doing it every time thats hardcore @TheOne1

 

[TheOne1]

nice I like to failure but any pains on shoulders? you doing it every time thats hardcore @TheOne1

My shoulders tolerate it really well. I find that it recovers within 1-2 days quite well, so higher frequency is well suited for me.

I've got a new training bloc starting next week, and will be focusing more on my back development.

Here's a video taken from Monday's session. I had bumped up the dumbbell to 25kg this session. But overall fatigue is setting in so going to deload for a few days and get in fresh for the new training bloc and at new gym

 

[LevButlerov]

My shoulders tolerate it really well. I find that it recovers within 1-2 days quite well, so higher frequency is well suited for me.

I've got a new training bloc starting next week, and will be focusing more on my back development.

Here's a video taken from Monday's session. I had bumped up the dumbbell to 25kg this session. But overall fatigue is setting in so going to deload for a few days and get in fresh for the new training bloc and at new gym


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That's good you have bowling ball shoulders so its impressive your volume @TheOne1 and love this video, you have amazing form, very clean and perfect bi pump there! waiting to see your new back focus. EVO family love and support your way!

@Mr.liftz @Wheels85
@BeMe @HarleyGuy @s.gentz
@Allupfromhere @Pigsy @Dreamer @Freki @R.AP
@waggat @Coolguy @Trenhead3cc @Kopite67

 

[Dreamer]

My shoulders tolerate it really well. I find that it recovers within 1-2 days quite well, so higher frequency is well suited for me.

I've got a new training bloc starting next week, and will be focusing more on my back development.

Here's a video taken from Monday's session. I had bumped up the dumbbell to 25kg this session. But overall fatigue is setting in so going to deload for a few days and get in fresh for the new training bloc and at new gym


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Good call with the deload, going through something similar myself, good on you for being in tune with your body

 

[Kopite67]

My shoulders tolerate it really well. I find that it recovers within 1-2 days quite well, so higher frequency is well suited for me.

I've got a new training bloc starting next week, and will be focusing more on my back development.

Here's a video taken from Monday's session. I had bumped up the dumbbell to 25kg this session. But overall fatigue is setting in so going to deload for a few days and get in fresh for the new training bloc and at new gym


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Great form on the curls brother. Nice and controlled. Hope the couple of days de-load does the trick. Did a mini (1 day ) de-load last week myself and it worked a treat.

 

[Mr.liftz]

Great form big fella!
Those are are looking thick

 

[waggat]

My shoulders tolerate it really well. I find that it recovers within 1-2 days quite well, so higher frequency is well suited for me.

I've got a new training bloc starting next week, and will be focusing more on my back development.

Here's a video taken from Monday's session. I had bumped up the dumbbell to 25kg this session. But overall fatigue is setting in so going to deload for a few days and get in fresh for the new training bloc and at new gym


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Nice form mate. I can't quite read it but is that 25kg? Massive weight if so!

 

[Trenhead3cc]

Looking good bro! Wish my biceps looked like that!

 

[TheOne1]

Nice form mate. I can't quite read it but is that 25kg? Massive weight if so!

Yup, that's a 25kg dumbbell

 

[TheOne1]

WEEK 3 - 4 Update:

I have been toggling between 5mg pre-workout and 10mg pre-workout and even had a SLUPP332 only day to test out the differences. I think I subjectively feel better at 10mg MOTS-c. I am noticing some swelling at the injection site, which i have read is likely a histamine reaction. It's not painful, it's just there. I inject subQ into my belly btw. The swelling goes away after 1-2 days. I had an easier week with training given the deload. Coming in fresh for a new workout bloc at a new gym on Monday

Here's yesterdays mid workout pump pic:

 

[Trenhead3cc]

WEEK 3 - 4 Update:

I have been toggling between 5mg pre-workout and 10mg pre-workout and even had a SLUPP332 only day to test out the differences. I think I subjectively feel better at 10mg MOTS-c. I am noticing some swelling at the injection site, which i have read is likely a histamine reaction. It's not painful, it's just there. I inject subQ into my belly btw. The swelling goes away after 1-2 days. I had an easier week with training given the deload. Coming in fresh for a new workout bloc at a new gym on Monday

Here's yesterdays mid workout pump pic:

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Insane! Geez you look good! #nohomo

 

[Kopite67]

WEEK 3 - 4 Update:

I have been toggling between 5mg pre-workout and 10mg pre-workout and even had a SLUPP332 only day to test out the differences. I think I subjectively feel better at 10mg MOTS-c. I am noticing some swelling at the injection site, which i have read is likely a histamine reaction. It's not painful, it's just there. I inject subQ into my belly btw. The swelling goes away after 1-2 days. I had an easier week with training given the deload. Coming in fresh for a new workout bloc at a new gym on Monday

Here's yesterdays mid workout pump pic:

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Looking amazing bro. Delts and traps are huge and the biceps are mountainous. Loving the updates brother, they are

 

[Pigsy]

WEEK 3 - 4 Update:

I have been toggling between 5mg pre-workout and 10mg pre-workout and even had a SLUPP332 only day to test out the differences. I think I subjectively feel better at 10mg MOTS-c. I am noticing some swelling at the injection site, which i have read is likely a histamine reaction. It's not painful, it's just there. I inject subQ into my belly btw. The swelling goes away after 1-2 days. I had an easier week with training given the deload. Coming in fresh for a new workout bloc at a new gym on Monday

Here's yesterdays mid workout pump pic:

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Delts to die for

 

[LevButlerov]

WEEK 3 - 4 Update:

I have been toggling between 5mg pre-workout and 10mg pre-workout and even had a SLUPP332 only day to test out the differences. I think I subjectively feel better at 10mg MOTS-c. I am noticing some swelling at the injection site, which i have read is likely a histamine reaction. It's not painful, it's just there. I inject subQ into my belly btw. The swelling goes away after 1-2 days. I had an easier week with training given the deload. Coming in fresh for a new workout bloc at a new gym on Monday

Here's yesterdays mid workout pump pic:

View attachment 172811

Your arms look insane and massive WOW! @TheOne1


@BeMe @HarleyGuy @s.gentz
@Allupfromhere @Dreamer @Freki @R.AP
@waggat @Coolguy @Trenhead3cc

 

[waggat]

WEEK 3 - 4 Update:

I have been toggling between 5mg pre-workout and 10mg pre-workout and even had a SLUPP332 only day to test out the differences. I think I subjectively feel better at 10mg MOTS-c. I am noticing some swelling at the injection site, which i have read is likely a histamine reaction. It's not painful, it's just there. I inject subQ into my belly btw. The swelling goes away after 1-2 days. I had an easier week with training given the deload. Coming in fresh for a new workout bloc at a new gym on Monday

Here's yesterdays mid workout pump pic:

View attachment 172811

Boulder delts and massive bi's mate!

 

[Dreamer]

WEEK 3 - 4 Update:

I have been toggling between 5mg pre-workout and 10mg pre-workout and even had a SLUPP332 only day to test out the differences. I think I subjectively feel better at 10mg MOTS-c. I am noticing some swelling at the injection site, which i have read is likely a histamine reaction. It's not painful, it's just there. I inject subQ into my belly btw. The swelling goes away after 1-2 days. I had an easier week with training given the deload. Coming in fresh for a new workout bloc at a new gym on Monday

Here's yesterdays mid workout pump pic:

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Those delt veins holy shit

 

[TheOne1]

Week 5 Update

So I’ve learnt that since MOTS-C activates the AMPK pathway to do its magic. But the AMPK pathway is down regulated in the presence of insulin.

I usually have about 100g of cream of rice pre-workout. And have been using MOTS-C pre-workout too.

So basically because of the carb/insulin spike I wouldn’t be taking advantage of the full effect of MOTS-C.

It’s best taken in a fasted state. But I don’t train fasted .

So instead I’ve begun injecting it in the morning in a fasted state. Today was the first day trying it. I had a good workout, got my weights and volume in and made some progress too. I’ve started at a new gym too so adjusting to the available equipment here too.

If anyone else has noticed any difference taking MOTS-C fasted as opposed to not, please share your experience and advice. I really want to maximize its effect.

Today’s pump pic practicing being a traffic signal

 

[Kopite67]

Week 5 Update

So I’ve learnt that since MOTS-C activates the AMPK pathway to do its magic. But the AMPK pathway is down regulated in the presence of insulin.

I usually have about 100g of cream of rice pre-workout. And have been using MOTS-C pre-workout too.

So basically because of the carb/insulin spike I wouldn’t be taking advantage of the full effect of MOTS-C.

It’s best taken in a fasted state. But I don’t train fasted .

So instead I’ve begun injecting it in the morning in a fasted state. Today was the first day trying it. I had a good workout, got my weights and volume in and made some progress too. I’ve started at a new gym too so adjusting to the available equipment here too.

If anyone else has noticed any difference taking MOTS-C fasted as opposed to not, please share your experience and advice. I really want to maximize its effect.

Today’s pump pic practicing being a traffic signal

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Great update bro. I don't take MOTS-C but the science sounds correct from the (very) small amount I know. Pump pic is brother

 

[LevButlerov]

Week 5 Update

So I’ve learnt that since MOTS-C activates the AMPK pathway to do its magic. But the AMPK pathway is down regulated in the presence of insulin.

I usually have about 100g of cream of rice pre-workout. And have been using MOTS-C pre-workout too.

So basically because of the carb/insulin spike I wouldn’t be taking advantage of the full effect of MOTS-C.

It’s best taken in a fasted state. But I don’t train fasted .

So instead I’ve begun injecting it in the morning in a fasted state. Today was the first day trying it. I had a good workout, got my weights and volume in and made some progress too. I’ve started at a new gym too so adjusting to the available equipment here too.

If anyone else has noticed any difference taking MOTS-C fasted as opposed to not, please share your experience and advice. I really want to maximize its effect.

Today’s pump pic practicing being a traffic signal

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interesting so your view is mots-c is best fasted?
are you feeling more from it fasted? please tell us more @TheOne1

@BeMe @HarleyGuy @s.gentz
@Allupfromhere @Pigsy @Dreamer @Freki @R.AP
@waggat @Coolguy @Trenhead3cc

 

[Dreamer]

Week 5 Update

So I’ve learnt that since MOTS-C activates the AMPK pathway to do its magic. But the AMPK pathway is down regulated in the presence of insulin.

I usually have about 100g of cream of rice pre-workout. And have been using MOTS-C pre-workout too.

So basically because of the carb/insulin spike I wouldn’t be taking advantage of the full effect of MOTS-C.

It’s best taken in a fasted state. But I don’t train fasted .

So instead I’ve begun injecting it in the morning in a fasted state. Today was the first day trying it. I had a good workout, got my weights and volume in and made some progress too. I’ve started at a new gym too so adjusting to the available equipment here too.

If anyone else has noticed any difference taking MOTS-C fasted as opposed to not, please share your experience and advice. I really want to maximize its effect.

Today’s pump pic practicing being a traffic signal

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I actually prefer Mots well away from training, so I train at 5.30am - I found dosing around 1-2pm feels best for me

 

[Trenhead3cc]

Whatever this bloke is doing or having I want it . @TheOne1 looks phenomenal

 

[waggat]

Week 5 Update

So I’ve learnt that since MOTS-C activates the AMPK pathway to do its magic. But the AMPK pathway is down regulated in the presence of insulin.

I usually have about 100g of cream of rice pre-workout. And have been using MOTS-C pre-workout too.

So basically because of the carb/insulin spike I wouldn’t be taking advantage of the full effect of MOTS-C.

It’s best taken in a fasted state. But I don’t train fasted .

So instead I’ve begun injecting it in the morning in a fasted state. Today was the first day trying it. I had a good workout, got my weights and volume in and made some progress too. I’ve started at a new gym too so adjusting to the available equipment here too.

If anyone else has noticed any difference taking MOTS-C fasted as opposed to not, please share your experience and advice. I really want to maximize its effect.

Today’s pump pic practicing being a traffic signal

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Looking awesome mate! New gym looks good too.

 

[TheOne1]

interesting so your view is mots-c is best fasted?
are you feeling more from it fasted? please tell us more @TheOne1

@BeMe @HarleyGuy @s.gentz
@Allupfromhere @Pigsy @Dreamer @Freki @R.AP
@waggat @Coolguy @Trenhead3cc

I did try it and didn’t actually notice a difference. Might need to experiment more, but I felt it works in the background anyway. So the ‘feel’ is hard to gauge.

I’ve also been managing a bout of SIBO recently. It flares up once or twice a year and results it poor digestion and bloating. Training isn’t affected tho. I’m trying to avoid antibiotics for it again, but if it gets worse I’ll have to give it a shot.

 

[TheOne1]

I actually prefer Mots well away from training, so I train at 5.30am - I found dosing around 1-2pm feels best for me

This is an interesting suggestion, thanks, might give this a shot!

 

[TheOne1]

Whatever this bloke is doing or having I want it . @TheOne1 looks phenomenal

There’s a downlight at this gym that just makes you glow haha.

 

[LevButlerov]

I did try it and didn’t actually notice a difference. Might need to experiment more, but I felt it works in the background anyway. So the ‘feel’ is hard to gauge.

I’ve also been managing a bout of SIBO recently. It flares up once or twice a year and results it poor digestion and bloating. Training isn’t affected tho. I’m trying to avoid antibiotics for it again, but if it gets worse I’ll have to give it a shot.

for the SIBO, can you try to add apple cider vinegar ed, and probiotics with digestive enzymes and some psyllium? @TheOne1

 

[TheOne1]

for the SIBO, can you try to add apple cider vinegar ed, and probiotics with digestive enzymes and some psyllium? @TheOne1

Yup, that’s what I’ve been recommended too. I’ve just added probiotics, digestive enzymes and psyllium husk too. My gut doesn’t respond well to apple cider vinegar from past experiences tho.

 

[LevButlerov]

Yup, that’s what I’ve been recommended too. I’ve just added probiotics, digestive enzymes and psyllium husk too. My gut doesn’t respond well to apple cider vinegar from past experiences tho.

It might be the ACV is changing the acidity which is what you need actually, are you having heartburn from it or fine now? @TheOne1

 

[Prymal]

Solid pump legend

Week 5 Update

So I’ve learnt that since MOTS-C activates the AMPK pathway to do its magic. But the AMPK pathway is down regulated in the presence of insulin.

I usually have about 100g of cream of rice pre-workout. And have been using MOTS-C pre-workout too.

So basically because of the carb/insulin spike I wouldn’t be taking advantage of the full effect of MOTS-C.

It’s best taken in a fasted state. But I don’t train fasted .

So instead I’ve begun injecting it in the morning in a fasted state. Today was the first day trying it. I had a good workout, got my weights and volume in and made some progress too. I’ve started at a new gym too so adjusting to the available equipment here too.

If anyone else has noticed any difference taking MOTS-C fasted as opposed to not, please share your experience and advice. I really want to maximize its effect.

Today’s pump pic practicing being a traffic signal

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