Approved Log 55 y/o TRT HGH Masteron Cycle Training Log

[Skinnybig]

STATS:
Age: 55
Height: 5'10"
Weight: 184-186 lbs
Body Fat: 7-9%
Years Training: 40+ years (started age 12)

Cycle History: First anabolic cycle — TRT + HGH 6.5 months, added Masteron E April 27 2026
CURRENT PROTOCOL:
Testosterone (prescribed) — 20mg IM daily
HGH Genotropin (prescribed) — 2 IU IM nightly
HCG — 500 IU 2x/week
Masteron E (Pharmaqo) — 50mg IM daily — started April 27 2026
Tadalafil — 10mg daily
Retatrutide — 2mg weekly

SUPPLEMENTS:
Creatine — 20g sipped throughout training
Nordic Naturals Ultimate Omega — 4-6g EPA+DHA with meals
TUDCA (Double Wood) — 500mg with meals
NAC (Thorne) — per label, morning
Milk Thistle (NOW Foods) — 450mg with meals
Zinc (CVS) — 50mg daily
Centrum Silver Men 50+ — 1 tablet with food

HAIR PROTECTION:
Minoxidil (Kirkland) — 6+ months — daily

DIET:
3 meals daily:
Meal 1 — 12oz meat (beef or chicken) + 8oz white rice (cooked) + vegetables
Meal 2 — 12oz meat (beef or chicken) + 8oz white rice (cooked) + vegetables
Meal 3 — 12oz meat (beef or chicken) + 8oz white rice (cooked) + vegetables
2 scoops whey protein daily
Intra-workout: 120g dextrose (experiencing heartburn at this dose — seeking guidance on reducing or switching to HBCD)
Approximate daily macros:
Protein: 270-300g
Carbs: 170-190g
Fat: 80-90g
Calories: 2,600-2,800
Currently experiencing the classic flatness vs midsection dilemma — lower calories gives lean midsection but flat muscles. Higher carbs gives fuller muscles but softer midsection. Seeking carb cycling guidance for my goals.

TRAINING:
Push / Pull / Legs / Rest — repeating
Day 1: Push — Chest, Shoulders, Triceps
Day 2: Pull — Back, Biceps
Day 3: Legs — Quads, Hamstrings, Glutes, Calves
Day 4: Rest
Repeat

Core lifts: Incline Press (Push), Deadlift (Pull), Back Squat (Legs)
Style: 5 sets, 3 minute rest intervals, 80-90 minute sessions
Goal: Body composition and conditioning — not chasing PRs after 40 years of training

CARDIO:
Currently minimal — seeking community guidance on adding cardio without sacrificing muscle at 7-9% body fat

SLEEP:
Duration: approximately 6-7 hours
Situational sleepiness — drowsy in car and when standing still
Suspected cause: Retatrutide + low body fat + possible under-eating
Nocturia waking 2-3x nightly — being addressed by Tadalafil 10mg daily

BLOODWORK — March 10 2026:
Total Testosterone: 1,025 ng/dL (range 264-916)
Free Testosterone: 286 pg/mL (range 35-155)
Estradiol: 34 pg/mL
IGF-1: 241 ng/mL (range 68-196)
PSA: 3.04
HDL: 66
LDL: 74
Hematocrit: 46.3%
eGFR: 90
Creatinine: 0.99
Next bloodwork: May 26 2026

GOALS:
Peak condition July 4th 2026 — Week 10 of Masteron cycle
Eliminate remaining lower belly fat
Maintain and improve vascularity and muscle hardness
Long term: add 5lbs lean tissue

QUESTIONS FOR THE COMMUNITY:
At 50mg Masteron E daily (350mg/week) on 140mg testosterone — is this the correct dose for my goals and profile?

Carb cycling strategy at 7-9% body fat — how to stay full without blurring the midsection?

Cardio recommendations at my body fat level without sacrificing muscle?

E2 management on Masteron — currently 34 pg/mL — what should I watch for?

If anyone has anything else, you're welcome to chime in.

 

[LevButlerov]

STATS:
Age: 55
Height: 5'10"
Weight: 184-186 lbs
Body Fat: 7-9%
Years Training: 40+ years (started age 12)

Cycle History: First anabolic cycle — TRT + HGH 6.5 months, added Masteron E April 27 2026
CURRENT PROTOCOL:
Testosterone (prescribed) — 20mg IM daily
HGH Genotropin (prescribed) — 2 IU IM nightly
HCG — 500 IU 2x/week
Masteron E (Pharmaqo) — 50mg IM daily — started April 27 2026
Tadalafil — 10mg daily
Retatrutide — 2mg weekly

SUPPLEMENTS:
Creatine — 20g sipped throughout training
Nordic Naturals Ultimate Omega — 4-6g EPA+DHA with meals
TUDCA (Double Wood) — 500mg with meals
NAC (Thorne) — per label, morning
Milk Thistle (NOW Foods) — 450mg with meals
Zinc (CVS) — 50mg daily
Centrum Silver Men 50+ — 1 tablet with food

HAIR PROTECTION:
Minoxidil (Kirkland) — 6+ months — daily

DIET:
3 meals daily:
Meal 1 — 12oz meat (beef or chicken) + 8oz white rice (cooked) + vegetables
Meal 2 — 12oz meat (beef or chicken) + 8oz white rice (cooked) + vegetables
Meal 3 — 12oz meat (beef or chicken) + 8oz white rice (cooked) + vegetables
2 scoops whey protein daily
Intra-workout: 120g dextrose (experiencing heartburn at this dose — seeking guidance on reducing or switching to HBCD)
Approximate daily macros:
Protein: 270-300g
Carbs: 170-190g
Fat: 80-90g
Calories: 2,600-2,800
Currently experiencing the classic flatness vs midsection dilemma — lower calories gives lean midsection but flat muscles. Higher carbs gives fuller muscles but softer midsection. Seeking carb cycling guidance for my goals.

TRAINING:
Push / Pull / Legs / Rest — repeating
Day 1: Push — Chest, Shoulders, Triceps
Day 2: Pull — Back, Biceps
Day 3: Legs — Quads, Hamstrings, Glutes, Calves
Day 4: Rest
Repeat

Core lifts: Incline Press (Push), Deadlift (Pull), Back Squat (Legs)
Style: 5 sets, 3 minute rest intervals, 80-90 minute sessions
Goal: Body composition and conditioning — not chasing PRs after 40 years of training

CARDIO:
Currently minimal — seeking community guidance on adding cardio without sacrificing muscle at 7-9% body fat

SLEEP:
Duration: approximately 6-7 hours
Situational sleepiness — drowsy in car and when standing still
Suspected cause: Retatrutide + low body fat + possible under-eating
Nocturia waking 2-3x nightly — being addressed by Tadalafil 10mg daily

BLOODWORK — March 10 2026:
Total Testosterone: 1,025 ng/dL (range 264-916)
Free Testosterone: 286 pg/mL (range 35-155)
Estradiol: 34 pg/mL
IGF-1: 241 ng/mL (range 68-196)
PSA: 3.04
HDL: 66
LDL: 74
Hematocrit: 46.3%
eGFR: 90
Creatinine: 0.99
Next bloodwork: May 26 2026

GOALS:
Peak condition July 4th 2026 — Week 10 of Masteron cycle
Eliminate remaining lower belly fat
Maintain and improve vascularity and muscle hardness
Long term: add 5lbs lean tissue

QUESTIONS FOR THE COMMUNITY:
At 50mg Masteron E daily (350mg/week) on 140mg testosterone — is this the correct dose for my goals and profile?

Carb cycling strategy at 7-9% body fat — how to stay full without blurring the midsection?

Cardio recommendations at my body fat level without sacrificing muscle?

E2 management on Masteron — currently 34 pg/mL — what should I watch for?

If anyone has anything else, you're welcome to chime in.

good start to your log @Skinnybig please share some pics of you face blurred so we can understand your base, and approve log

 

[Skinnybig]

good start to your log @Skinnybig please share some pics of you face blurred so we can understand your base, and approve log

Ok, the lighting makes me look better. But I really do have abs and am vascular 24/7.

 

[LevButlerov]

STATS:
Age: 55
Height: 5'10"
Weight: 184-186 lbs
Body Fat: 7-9%
Years Training: 40+ years (started age 12)

Cycle History: First anabolic cycle — TRT + HGH 6.5 months, added Masteron E April 27 2026
CURRENT PROTOCOL:
Testosterone (prescribed) — 20mg IM daily
HGH Genotropin (prescribed) — 2 IU IM nightly
HCG — 500 IU 2x/week
Masteron E (Pharmaqo) — 50mg IM daily — started April 27 2026
Tadalafil — 10mg daily
Retatrutide — 2mg weekly

SUPPLEMENTS:
Creatine — 20g sipped throughout training
Nordic Naturals Ultimate Omega — 4-6g EPA+DHA with meals
TUDCA (Double Wood) — 500mg with meals
NAC (Thorne) — per label, morning
Milk Thistle (NOW Foods) — 450mg with meals
Zinc (CVS) — 50mg daily
Centrum Silver Men 50+ — 1 tablet with food

HAIR PROTECTION:
Minoxidil (Kirkland) — 6+ months — daily

DIET:
3 meals daily:
Meal 1 — 12oz meat (beef or chicken) + 8oz white rice (cooked) + vegetables
Meal 2 — 12oz meat (beef or chicken) + 8oz white rice (cooked) + vegetables
Meal 3 — 12oz meat (beef or chicken) + 8oz white rice (cooked) + vegetables
2 scoops whey protein daily
Intra-workout: 120g dextrose (experiencing heartburn at this dose — seeking guidance on reducing or switching to HBCD)
Approximate daily macros:
Protein: 270-300g
Carbs: 170-190g
Fat: 80-90g
Calories: 2,600-2,800
Currently experiencing the classic flatness vs midsection dilemma — lower calories gives lean midsection but flat muscles. Higher carbs gives fuller muscles but softer midsection. Seeking carb cycling guidance for my goals.

TRAINING:
Push / Pull / Legs / Rest — repeating
Day 1: Push — Chest, Shoulders, Triceps
Day 2: Pull — Back, Biceps
Day 3: Legs — Quads, Hamstrings, Glutes, Calves
Day 4: Rest
Repeat

Core lifts: Incline Press (Push), Deadlift (Pull), Back Squat (Legs)
Style: 5 sets, 3 minute rest intervals, 80-90 minute sessions
Goal: Body composition and conditioning — not chasing PRs after 40 years of training

CARDIO:
Currently minimal — seeking community guidance on adding cardio without sacrificing muscle at 7-9% body fat

SLEEP:
Duration: approximately 6-7 hours
Situational sleepiness — drowsy in car and when standing still
Suspected cause: Retatrutide + low body fat + possible under-eating
Nocturia waking 2-3x nightly — being addressed by Tadalafil 10mg daily

BLOODWORK — March 10 2026:
Total Testosterone: 1,025 ng/dL (range 264-916)
Free Testosterone: 286 pg/mL (range 35-155)
Estradiol: 34 pg/mL
IGF-1: 241 ng/mL (range 68-196)
PSA: 3.04
HDL: 66
LDL: 74
Hematocrit: 46.3%
eGFR: 90
Creatinine: 0.99
Next bloodwork: May 26 2026

GOALS:
Peak condition July 4th 2026 — Week 10 of Masteron cycle
Eliminate remaining lower belly fat
Maintain and improve vascularity and muscle hardness
Long term: add 5lbs lean tissue

QUESTIONS FOR THE COMMUNITY:
At 50mg Masteron E daily (350mg/week) on 140mg testosterone — is this the correct dose for my goals and profile?

Carb cycling strategy at 7-9% body fat — how to stay full without blurring the midsection?

Cardio recommendations at my body fat level without sacrificing muscle?

E2 management on Masteron — currently 34 pg/mL — what should I watch for?

If anyone has anything else, you're welcome to chime in.

welcome fully to the EVO family you look amazing in the pics, ripped and lean, love the abs! @Skinnybig

Bloods
can you share the actual bloods paper please

At 50mg Masteron E daily (350mg/week) on 140mg testosterone — is this the correct dose for my goals and profile?

masteron ed kept your e2 low right? showing your last bloods or was this before mast?

Carb cycling strategy at 7-9% body fat — how to stay full without blurring the midsection?

i think its possible but you'll need to cut carbs a lot and cardio up big time, you might need a GLP1 to go lower

Cardio recommendations at my body fat level without sacrificing muscle?

testosterone for sure, with winstrol to dry up and you can add masteron or eq

E2 management on Masteron — currently 34 pg/mL — what should I watch for?

hard to say what sides do you have now?

Please share more day to day information with us.

Diet, Training, Cardio
Diet, please share foods and meals and when you eat them, macros would be good
Training, please share actual exercises reps sets and weights, as you go especially get stronger
cardio how much do you do? when etc
If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Or use an app like myfitness pal or cronometer. Very easy.

supplements
Are you taking high doses Vitamin C?
can you up creatine to 30?
what digestive supps you use?
digestive enzymes?
multis?
probiotics?
psyllium husk?

are you listening to our podcast? if not, you should:
https://www.evolutionary.org/podcasts/
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/evolutionary-bodybuilding-radio/id1798623410
https://open.spotify.com/show/53q1RFTgG4h6TQHsJ4xY6Z

did you download our eBooks?
https://irongorillas.com

@HarleyGuy @Allupfromhere @Pigsy @waggat @Trenhead3cc @Kopite67
@Grumpy @LH5515 @Yuri @Doctakay @catdadironman @bss

Ok, the lighting makes me look better. But I really do have abs and am vascular 24/7.

 

[rizzlekdizzle]

holy shit mate - 55 and you look like that? goals!
Keen to follow along - I'm 45 and you got a physique guys half your age would froth for!

 

[Grumpy]

Wow agree with rizzlekdizzle looking amazing keen as to follow along

 

[Skinnybig]

Its mostly lighting guys. I did recomp but look close to this all my life.

 

[Skinnybig]

But thank you!!!

 

[rizzlekdizzle]

mate that is not all lighting!

 

[stevesmi]

STATS:
Age: 55
Height: 5'10"
Weight: 184-186 lbs
Body Fat: 7-9%
Years Training: 40+ years (started age 12)

Cycle History: First anabolic cycle — TRT + HGH 6.5 months, added Masteron E April 27 2026
CURRENT PROTOCOL:
Testosterone (prescribed) — 20mg IM daily
HGH Genotropin (prescribed) — 2 IU IM nightly
HCG — 500 IU 2x/week
Masteron E (Pharmaqo) — 50mg IM daily — started April 27 2026
Tadalafil — 10mg daily
Retatrutide — 2mg weekly

SUPPLEMENTS:
Creatine — 20g sipped throughout training
Nordic Naturals Ultimate Omega — 4-6g EPA+DHA with meals
TUDCA (Double Wood) — 500mg with meals
NAC (Thorne) — per label, morning
Milk Thistle (NOW Foods) — 450mg with meals
Zinc (CVS) — 50mg daily
Centrum Silver Men 50+ — 1 tablet with food

HAIR PROTECTION:
Minoxidil (Kirkland) — 6+ months — daily

DIET:
3 meals daily:
Meal 1 — 12oz meat (beef or chicken) + 8oz white rice (cooked) + vegetables
Meal 2 — 12oz meat (beef or chicken) + 8oz white rice (cooked) + vegetables
Meal 3 — 12oz meat (beef or chicken) + 8oz white rice (cooked) + vegetables
2 scoops whey protein daily
Intra-workout: 120g dextrose (experiencing heartburn at this dose — seeking guidance on reducing or switching to HBCD)
Approximate daily macros:
Protein: 270-300g
Carbs: 170-190g
Fat: 80-90g
Calories: 2,600-2,800
Currently experiencing the classic flatness vs midsection dilemma — lower calories gives lean midsection but flat muscles. Higher carbs gives fuller muscles but softer midsection. Seeking carb cycling guidance for my goals.

TRAINING:
Push / Pull / Legs / Rest — repeating
Day 1: Push — Chest, Shoulders, Triceps
Day 2: Pull — Back, Biceps
Day 3: Legs — Quads, Hamstrings, Glutes, Calves
Day 4: Rest
Repeat

Core lifts: Incline Press (Push), Deadlift (Pull), Back Squat (Legs)
Style: 5 sets, 3 minute rest intervals, 80-90 minute sessions
Goal: Body composition and conditioning — not chasing PRs after 40 years of training

CARDIO:
Currently minimal — seeking community guidance on adding cardio without sacrificing muscle at 7-9% body fat

SLEEP:
Duration: approximately 6-7 hours
Situational sleepiness — drowsy in car and when standing still
Suspected cause: Retatrutide + low body fat + possible under-eating
Nocturia waking 2-3x nightly — being addressed by Tadalafil 10mg daily

BLOODWORK — March 10 2026:
Total Testosterone: 1,025 ng/dL (range 264-916)
Free Testosterone: 286 pg/mL (range 35-155)
Estradiol: 34 pg/mL
IGF-1: 241 ng/mL (range 68-196)
PSA: 3.04
HDL: 66
LDL: 74
Hematocrit: 46.3%
eGFR: 90
Creatinine: 0.99
Next bloodwork: May 26 2026

GOALS:
Peak condition July 4th 2026 — Week 10 of Masteron cycle
Eliminate remaining lower belly fat
Maintain and improve vascularity and muscle hardness
Long term: add 5lbs lean tissue

QUESTIONS FOR THE COMMUNITY:
At 50mg Masteron E daily (350mg/week) on 140mg testosterone — is this the correct dose for my goals and profile?

Carb cycling strategy at 7-9% body fat — how to stay full without blurring the midsection?

Cardio recommendations at my body fat level without sacrificing muscle?

E2 management on Masteron — currently 34 pg/mL — what should I watch for?

If anyone has anything else, you're welcome to chime in.

@Skinnybig Damn man, you have a rock hard physique. I haven't seen abs like that in a long time.

 

[waggat]

STATS:
Age: 55
Height: 5'10"
Weight: 184-186 lbs
Body Fat: 7-9%
Years Training: 40+ years (started age 12)

Cycle History: First anabolic cycle — TRT + HGH 6.5 months, added Masteron E April 27 2026
CURRENT PROTOCOL:
Testosterone (prescribed) — 20mg IM daily
HGH Genotropin (prescribed) — 2 IU IM nightly
HCG — 500 IU 2x/week
Masteron E (Pharmaqo) — 50mg IM daily — started April 27 2026
Tadalafil — 10mg daily
Retatrutide — 2mg weekly

SUPPLEMENTS:
Creatine — 20g sipped throughout training
Nordic Naturals Ultimate Omega — 4-6g EPA+DHA with meals
TUDCA (Double Wood) — 500mg with meals
NAC (Thorne) — per label, morning
Milk Thistle (NOW Foods) — 450mg with meals
Zinc (CVS) — 50mg daily
Centrum Silver Men 50+ — 1 tablet with food

HAIR PROTECTION:
Minoxidil (Kirkland) — 6+ months — daily

DIET:
3 meals daily:
Meal 1 — 12oz meat (beef or chicken) + 8oz white rice (cooked) + vegetables
Meal 2 — 12oz meat (beef or chicken) + 8oz white rice (cooked) + vegetables
Meal 3 — 12oz meat (beef or chicken) + 8oz white rice (cooked) + vegetables
2 scoops whey protein daily
Intra-workout: 120g dextrose (experiencing heartburn at this dose — seeking guidance on reducing or switching to HBCD)
Approximate daily macros:
Protein: 270-300g
Carbs: 170-190g
Fat: 80-90g
Calories: 2,600-2,800
Currently experiencing the classic flatness vs midsection dilemma — lower calories gives lean midsection but flat muscles. Higher carbs gives fuller muscles but softer midsection. Seeking carb cycling guidance for my goals.

TRAINING:
Push / Pull / Legs / Rest — repeating
Day 1: Push — Chest, Shoulders, Triceps
Day 2: Pull — Back, Biceps
Day 3: Legs — Quads, Hamstrings, Glutes, Calves
Day 4: Rest
Repeat

Core lifts: Incline Press (Push), Deadlift (Pull), Back Squat (Legs)
Style: 5 sets, 3 minute rest intervals, 80-90 minute sessions
Goal: Body composition and conditioning — not chasing PRs after 40 years of training

CARDIO:
Currently minimal — seeking community guidance on adding cardio without sacrificing muscle at 7-9% body fat

SLEEP:
Duration: approximately 6-7 hours
Situational sleepiness — drowsy in car and when standing still
Suspected cause: Retatrutide + low body fat + possible under-eating
Nocturia waking 2-3x nightly — being addressed by Tadalafil 10mg daily

BLOODWORK — March 10 2026:
Total Testosterone: 1,025 ng/dL (range 264-916)
Free Testosterone: 286 pg/mL (range 35-155)
Estradiol: 34 pg/mL
IGF-1: 241 ng/mL (range 68-196)
PSA: 3.04
HDL: 66
LDL: 74
Hematocrit: 46.3%
eGFR: 90
Creatinine: 0.99
Next bloodwork: May 26 2026

GOALS:
Peak condition July 4th 2026 — Week 10 of Masteron cycle
Eliminate remaining lower belly fat
Maintain and improve vascularity and muscle hardness
Long term: add 5lbs lean tissue

QUESTIONS FOR THE COMMUNITY:
At 50mg Masteron E daily (350mg/week) on 140mg testosterone — is this the correct dose for my goals and profile?

Carb cycling strategy at 7-9% body fat — how to stay full without blurring the midsection?

Cardio recommendations at my body fat level without sacrificing muscle?

E2 management on Masteron — currently 34 pg/mL — what should I watch for?

If anyone has anything else, you're welcome to chime in.

Looking good mate and looks like you've got everything organised well.

Interested in seeing some typical workouts.

 

[Skinnybig]

I finally gave and went to a clinic last Oct. I wa turning 55 and things just stop progressing. They put me on 140mg and HGC. Then I started HG about 2 mo the ago. This is the first time using anabolic. Other than that Mark Maguire stuff when we were kids. What I noticed was much better mind muscle connection. I can feel the muscle better. When I started HG, its when things really started taking off.

 

[Pigsy]

STATS:
Age: 55
Height: 5'10"
Weight: 184-186 lbs
Body Fat: 7-9%
Years Training: 40+ years (started age 12)

Cycle History: First anabolic cycle — TRT + HGH 6.5 months, added Masteron E April 27 2026
CURRENT PROTOCOL:
Testosterone (prescribed) — 20mg IM daily
HGH Genotropin (prescribed) — 2 IU IM nightly
HCG — 500 IU 2x/week
Masteron E (Pharmaqo) — 50mg IM daily — started April 27 2026
Tadalafil — 10mg daily
Retatrutide — 2mg weekly

SUPPLEMENTS:
Creatine — 20g sipped throughout training
Nordic Naturals Ultimate Omega — 4-6g EPA+DHA with meals
TUDCA (Double Wood) — 500mg with meals
NAC (Thorne) — per label, morning
Milk Thistle (NOW Foods) — 450mg with meals
Zinc (CVS) — 50mg daily
Centrum Silver Men 50+ — 1 tablet with food

HAIR PROTECTION:
Minoxidil (Kirkland) — 6+ months — daily

DIET:
3 meals daily:
Meal 1 — 12oz meat (beef or chicken) + 8oz white rice (cooked) + vegetables
Meal 2 — 12oz meat (beef or chicken) + 8oz white rice (cooked) + vegetables
Meal 3 — 12oz meat (beef or chicken) + 8oz white rice (cooked) + vegetables
2 scoops whey protein daily
Intra-workout: 120g dextrose (experiencing heartburn at this dose — seeking guidance on reducing or switching to HBCD)
Approximate daily macros:
Protein: 270-300g
Carbs: 170-190g
Fat: 80-90g
Calories: 2,600-2,800
Currently experiencing the classic flatness vs midsection dilemma — lower calories gives lean midsection but flat muscles. Higher carbs gives fuller muscles but softer midsection. Seeking carb cycling guidance for my goals.

TRAINING:
Push / Pull / Legs / Rest — repeating
Day 1: Push — Chest, Shoulders, Triceps
Day 2: Pull — Back, Biceps
Day 3: Legs — Quads, Hamstrings, Glutes, Calves
Day 4: Rest
Repeat

Core lifts: Incline Press (Push), Deadlift (Pull), Back Squat (Legs)
Style: 5 sets, 3 minute rest intervals, 80-90 minute sessions
Goal: Body composition and conditioning — not chasing PRs after 40 years of training

CARDIO:
Currently minimal — seeking community guidance on adding cardio without sacrificing muscle at 7-9% body fat

SLEEP:
Duration: approximately 6-7 hours
Situational sleepiness — drowsy in car and when standing still
Suspected cause: Retatrutide + low body fat + possible under-eating
Nocturia waking 2-3x nightly — being addressed by Tadalafil 10mg daily

BLOODWORK — March 10 2026:
Total Testosterone: 1,025 ng/dL (range 264-916)
Free Testosterone: 286 pg/mL (range 35-155)
Estradiol: 34 pg/mL
IGF-1: 241 ng/mL (range 68-196)
PSA: 3.04
HDL: 66
LDL: 74
Hematocrit: 46.3%
eGFR: 90
Creatinine: 0.99
Next bloodwork: May 26 2026

GOALS:
Peak condition July 4th 2026 — Week 10 of Masteron cycle
Eliminate remaining lower belly fat
Maintain and improve vascularity and muscle hardness
Long term: add 5lbs lean tissue

QUESTIONS FOR THE COMMUNITY:
At 50mg Masteron E daily (350mg/week) on 140mg testosterone — is this the correct dose for my goals and profile?

Carb cycling strategy at 7-9% body fat — how to stay full without blurring the midsection?

Cardio recommendations at my body fat level without sacrificing muscle?

E2 management on Masteron — currently 34 pg/mL — what should I watch for?

If anyone has anything else, you're welcome to chime in.

nice start to log brother, will be following

 

[Skinnybig]

welcome fully to the EVO family you look amazing in the pics, ripped and lean, love the abs! @Skinnybig

Bloods
can you share the actual bloods paper please


masteron ed kept your e2 low right? showing your last bloods or was this before mast?

i think its possible but you'll need to cut carbs a lot and cardio up big time, you might need a GLP1 to go lower

testosterone for sure, with winstrol to dry up and you can add masteron or eq

hard to say what sides do you have now?

Please share more day to day information with us.

Diet, Training, Cardio
Diet, please share foods and meals and when you eat them, macros would be good
Training, please share actual exercises reps sets and weights, as you go especially get stronger
cardio how much do you do? when etc
If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Or use an app like myfitness pal or cronometer. Very easy.

supplements
Are you taking high doses Vitamin C?
can you up creatine to 30?
what digestive supps you use?
digestive enzymes?
multis?
probiotics?
psyllium husk?

are you listening to our podcast? if not, you should:
https://www.evolutionary.org/podcasts/
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/evolutionary-bodybuilding-radio/id1798623410
https://open.spotify.com/show/53q1RFTgG4h6TQHsJ4xY6Z

did you download our eBooks?
https://irongorillas.com

@HarleyGuy @Allupfromhere @Pigsy @waggat @Trenhead3cc @Kopite67
@Grumpy @LH5515 @Yuri @Doctakay @catdadironman @bss

Thanks for the warm welcome! Really appreciate the feedback.
Bloods: I'll get the actual paper scanned and posted. The numbers I listed are accurate from my March 10 2026 labs. Next bloodwork is May 26 2026 — will post full results when I get them.
Masteron and E2: The bloodwork was taken before starting Masteron — I just started Masteron E on April 27 2026 so only 3 days in. Will be monitoring E2 closely at May 26 bloodwork. Currently no high E2 symptoms — no water retention, good libido, joints feel fine.
Diet — full breakdown:
Meal 1 — 12oz meat (beef or chicken) + 8oz white rice cooked + vegetables
Meal 2 — 12oz meat (beef or chicken) + 8oz white rice cooked + vegetables
Meal 3 — 12oz meat (beef or chicken) + 8oz white rice cooked + vegetables
2 scoops whey protein daily
Intra-workout — 120g dextrose sipped throughout session
Meal timing:
Meal 1 — morning
Meal 2 — afternoon
Meal 3 — evening/post workout
Approximate daily macros:
Protein: 270-300g
Carbs: 170-190g plus 120g intra-workout dextrose
Fat: 80-90g
Calories: approximately 2,600-2,800
Currently rotating beef and chicken. Rice is my primary carb source. Vegetables are random — whatever is available.
The flatness vs midsection issue is my main diet challenge right now. When I reduce calories the midsection tightens but muscles go flat. When I increase carbs muscles fill out but midsection softens. Looking for the community's guidance on how to carb cycle effectively at my body fat level.
Training — clarification:
My training is intuitive. I follow a Push/Pull/Legs/Rest split but I don't pre-plan specific exercises. I decide what to do when I get to the gym based on how I feel that day.
What stays consistent:
Push day — chest, shoulders, triceps
Pull day — back, biceps
Legs — quads, hamstrings, glutes, calves
Rest
Repeat
Style: 5 sets per exercise, 3 minute rest intervals, 80-90 minute sessions
Strength benchmarks — I always work up to these numbers but don't go heavier:
Incline Bench — 5 x 10 at 215 lbs
Squat — 5 x 3 at 355 lbs
Deadlift — 5 x 3 at 355 lbs
At 55 with 40+ years of training my strength has peaked. These are my maintenance numbers — I hit them consistently but I'm not chasing PRs. Goal is body composition and conditioning, not adding weight to the bar. Exercise selection beyond the main lifts varies session to session based on feel.
Cardio:
Currently 20-30 minutes walking daily. Open to guidance on whether to increase duration, add incline, or switch to another modality without risking muscle loss at my body fat level.
Supplements — your questions:
Vitamin C — getting it through Centrum Silver Men 50+ — not taking additional high dose
Creatine — currently at 20g — will consider upping to 30g
Digestive enzymes — not currently taking
Probiotics — not currently taking
Psyllium husk — not currently taking
Multivitamin — Centrum Silver Men 50+ daily
Open to recommendations on digestive support — currently experiencing heartburn on 120g intra-workout dextrose. Considering switching to HBCD.
The lighting comment — you're right it helps but the abs and vascularity are real and visible 24/7. People at the gym regularly ask what I'm on. At 55 years old after 40+ years of training this is the best condition of my life.
Will start logging daily diet and training in more detail as I go. Thanks for the detailed questions — exactly the kind of guidance I was looking for.

 

[Yuri]

Welcome brother- looking sensational sir

 

[Mobster]

Do you have hair issues or is the hair treatment just in case?

 

[Skinnybig]

Do you have hair issues or is the hair treatment just in case?

Zero issues so far. I'm doing it just in case. I also have the RU 58841 on order as well.

 

[2Thick]

Ok, the lighting makes me look better. But I really do have abs and am vascular 24/7.

Nice man, if you oil up you'll look even better. Got a nice 8-pack

 

[Ulter]

STATS:
Age: 55
Height: 5'10"
Weight: 184-186 lbs
Body Fat: 7-9%
Years Training: 40+ years (started age 12)

Cycle History: First anabolic cycle — TRT + HGH 6.5 months, added Masteron E April 27 2026
CURRENT PROTOCOL:
Testosterone (prescribed) — 20mg IM daily
HGH Genotropin (prescribed) — 2 IU IM nightly
HCG — 500 IU 2x/week
Masteron E (Pharmaqo) — 50mg IM daily — started April 27 2026
Tadalafil — 10mg daily
Retatrutide — 2mg weekly

SUPPLEMENTS:
Creatine — 20g sipped throughout training
Nordic Naturals Ultimate Omega — 4-6g EPA+DHA with meals
TUDCA (Double Wood) — 500mg with meals
NAC (Thorne) — per label, morning
Milk Thistle (NOW Foods) — 450mg with meals
Zinc (CVS) — 50mg daily
Centrum Silver Men 50+ — 1 tablet with food

HAIR PROTECTION:
Minoxidil (Kirkland) — 6+ months — daily

DIET:
3 meals daily:
Meal 1 — 12oz meat (beef or chicken) + 8oz white rice (cooked) + vegetables
Meal 2 — 12oz meat (beef or chicken) + 8oz white rice (cooked) + vegetables
Meal 3 — 12oz meat (beef or chicken) + 8oz white rice (cooked) + vegetables
2 scoops whey protein daily
Intra-workout: 120g dextrose (experiencing heartburn at this dose — seeking guidance on reducing or switching to HBCD)
Approximate daily macros:
Protein: 270-300g
Carbs: 170-190g
Fat: 80-90g
Calories: 2,600-2,800
Currently experiencing the classic flatness vs midsection dilemma — lower calories gives lean midsection but flat muscles. Higher carbs gives fuller muscles but softer midsection. Seeking carb cycling guidance for my goals.

TRAINING:
Push / Pull / Legs / Rest — repeating
Day 1: Push — Chest, Shoulders, Triceps
Day 2: Pull — Back, Biceps
Day 3: Legs — Quads, Hamstrings, Glutes, Calves
Day 4: Rest
Repeat

Core lifts: Incline Press (Push), Deadlift (Pull), Back Squat (Legs)
Style: 5 sets, 3 minute rest intervals, 80-90 minute sessions
Goal: Body composition and conditioning — not chasing PRs after 40 years of training

CARDIO:
Currently minimal — seeking community guidance on adding cardio without sacrificing muscle at 7-9% body fat

SLEEP:
Duration: approximately 6-7 hours
Situational sleepiness — drowsy in car and when standing still
Suspected cause: Retatrutide + low body fat + possible under-eating
Nocturia waking 2-3x nightly — being addressed by Tadalafil 10mg daily

BLOODWORK — March 10 2026:
Total Testosterone: 1,025 ng/dL (range 264-916)
Free Testosterone: 286 pg/mL (range 35-155)
Estradiol: 34 pg/mL
IGF-1: 241 ng/mL (range 68-196)
PSA: 3.04
HDL: 66
LDL: 74
Hematocrit: 46.3%
eGFR: 90
Creatinine: 0.99
Next bloodwork: May 26 2026

GOALS:
Peak condition July 4th 2026 — Week 10 of Masteron cycle
Eliminate remaining lower belly fat
Maintain and improve vascularity and muscle hardness
Long term: add 5lbs lean tissue

QUESTIONS FOR THE COMMUNITY:
At 50mg Masteron E daily (350mg/week) on 140mg testosterone — is this the correct dose for my goals and profile?

Carb cycling strategy at 7-9% body fat — how to stay full without blurring the midsection?

Cardio recommendations at my body fat level without sacrificing muscle?

E2 management on Masteron — currently 34 pg/mL — what should I watch for?

If anyone has anything else, you're welcome to chime in.

The blood work is looking really good. It's good to put it up. @Skinnybig this is why now you can compare it.

 

[ROIDDERS]

STATS:
Age: 55
Height: 5'10"
Weight: 184-186 lbs
Body Fat: 7-9%
Years Training: 40+ years (started age 12)

Cycle History: First anabolic cycle — TRT + HGH 6.5 months, added Masteron E April 27 2026
CURRENT PROTOCOL:
Testosterone (prescribed) — 20mg IM daily
HGH Genotropin (prescribed) — 2 IU IM nightly
HCG — 500 IU 2x/week
Masteron E (Pharmaqo) — 50mg IM daily — started April 27 2026
Tadalafil — 10mg daily
Retatrutide — 2mg weekly

SUPPLEMENTS:
Creatine — 20g sipped throughout training
Nordic Naturals Ultimate Omega — 4-6g EPA+DHA with meals
TUDCA (Double Wood) — 500mg with meals
NAC (Thorne) — per label, morning
Milk Thistle (NOW Foods) — 450mg with meals
Zinc (CVS) — 50mg daily
Centrum Silver Men 50+ — 1 tablet with food

HAIR PROTECTION:
Minoxidil (Kirkland) — 6+ months — daily

DIET:
3 meals daily:
Meal 1 — 12oz meat (beef or chicken) + 8oz white rice (cooked) + vegetables
Meal 2 — 12oz meat (beef or chicken) + 8oz white rice (cooked) + vegetables
Meal 3 — 12oz meat (beef or chicken) + 8oz white rice (cooked) + vegetables
2 scoops whey protein daily
Intra-workout: 120g dextrose (experiencing heartburn at this dose — seeking guidance on reducing or switching to HBCD)
Approximate daily macros:
Protein: 270-300g
Carbs: 170-190g
Fat: 80-90g
Calories: 2,600-2,800
Currently experiencing the classic flatness vs midsection dilemma — lower calories gives lean midsection but flat muscles. Higher carbs gives fuller muscles but softer midsection. Seeking carb cycling guidance for my goals.

TRAINING:
Push / Pull / Legs / Rest — repeating
Day 1: Push — Chest, Shoulders, Triceps
Day 2: Pull — Back, Biceps
Day 3: Legs — Quads, Hamstrings, Glutes, Calves
Day 4: Rest
Repeat

Core lifts: Incline Press (Push), Deadlift (Pull), Back Squat (Legs)
Style: 5 sets, 3 minute rest intervals, 80-90 minute sessions
Goal: Body composition and conditioning — not chasing PRs after 40 years of training

CARDIO:
Currently minimal — seeking community guidance on adding cardio without sacrificing muscle at 7-9% body fat

SLEEP:
Duration: approximately 6-7 hours
Situational sleepiness — drowsy in car and when standing still
Suspected cause: Retatrutide + low body fat + possible under-eating
Nocturia waking 2-3x nightly — being addressed by Tadalafil 10mg daily

BLOODWORK — March 10 2026:
Total Testosterone: 1,025 ng/dL (range 264-916)
Free Testosterone: 286 pg/mL (range 35-155)
Estradiol: 34 pg/mL
IGF-1: 241 ng/mL (range 68-196)
PSA: 3.04
HDL: 66
LDL: 74
Hematocrit: 46.3%
eGFR: 90
Creatinine: 0.99
Next bloodwork: May 26 2026

GOALS:
Peak condition July 4th 2026 — Week 10 of Masteron cycle
Eliminate remaining lower belly fat
Maintain and improve vascularity and muscle hardness
Long term: add 5lbs lean tissue

QUESTIONS FOR THE COMMUNITY:
At 50mg Masteron E daily (350mg/week) on 140mg testosterone — is this the correct dose for my goals and profile?

Carb cycling strategy at 7-9% body fat — how to stay full without blurring the midsection?

Cardio recommendations at my body fat level without sacrificing muscle?

E2 management on Masteron — currently 34 pg/mL — what should I watch for?

If anyone has anything else, you're welcome to chime in.

@Simoneme 50 mg Masteron a day is a good one. You'll stay super hard and you'll continue to cut. I wouldn't worry about cardio. You're not gonna lose muscle from doing cardio. That is just bro science.

 

[ceo]

Its mostly lighting guys. I did recomp but look close to this all my life.

Bros, haha, you being modest with us and you messing with us. You shredded to the bone. I think most people would kill for that physique. @Skinnybig

 

[Skinnybig]

Bros, haha, you being modest with us and you messing with us. You shredded to the bone. I think most people would kill for that physique. @Skinnybig

I guess all the social media and those IG folks gave me body dysmorphia. But thanks for the compliment.

 

[Mobster]

Zero issues so far. I'm doing it just in case. I also have the RU 58841 on order as well.

No issues with side effects that ,many come with?

 

[HarleyGuy]

STATS:
Age: 55
Height: 5'10"
Weight: 184-186 lbs
Body Fat: 7-9%
Years Training: 40+ years (started age 12)

Cycle History: First anabolic cycle — TRT + HGH 6.5 months, added Masteron E April 27 2026
CURRENT PROTOCOL:
Testosterone (prescribed) — 20mg IM daily
HGH Genotropin (prescribed) — 2 IU IM nightly
HCG — 500 IU 2x/week
Masteron E (Pharmaqo) — 50mg IM daily — started April 27 2026
Tadalafil — 10mg daily
Retatrutide — 2mg weekly

SUPPLEMENTS:
Creatine — 20g sipped throughout training
Nordic Naturals Ultimate Omega — 4-6g EPA+DHA with meals
TUDCA (Double Wood) — 500mg with meals
NAC (Thorne) — per label, morning
Milk Thistle (NOW Foods) — 450mg with meals
Zinc (CVS) — 50mg daily
Centrum Silver Men 50+ — 1 tablet with food

HAIR PROTECTION:
Minoxidil (Kirkland) — 6+ months — daily

DIET:
3 meals daily:
Meal 1 — 12oz meat (beef or chicken) + 8oz white rice (cooked) + vegetables
Meal 2 — 12oz meat (beef or chicken) + 8oz white rice (cooked) + vegetables
Meal 3 — 12oz meat (beef or chicken) + 8oz white rice (cooked) + vegetables
2 scoops whey protein daily
Intra-workout: 120g dextrose (experiencing heartburn at this dose — seeking guidance on reducing or switching to HBCD)
Approximate daily macros:
Protein: 270-300g
Carbs: 170-190g
Fat: 80-90g
Calories: 2,600-2,800
Currently experiencing the classic flatness vs midsection dilemma — lower calories gives lean midsection but flat muscles. Higher carbs gives fuller muscles but softer midsection. Seeking carb cycling guidance for my goals.

TRAINING:
Push / Pull / Legs / Rest — repeating
Day 1: Push — Chest, Shoulders, Triceps
Day 2: Pull — Back, Biceps
Day 3: Legs — Quads, Hamstrings, Glutes, Calves
Day 4: Rest
Repeat

Core lifts: Incline Press (Push), Deadlift (Pull), Back Squat (Legs)
Style: 5 sets, 3 minute rest intervals, 80-90 minute sessions
Goal: Body composition and conditioning — not chasing PRs after 40 years of training

CARDIO:
Currently minimal — seeking community guidance on adding cardio without sacrificing muscle at 7-9% body fat

SLEEP:
Duration: approximately 6-7 hours
Situational sleepiness — drowsy in car and when standing still
Suspected cause: Retatrutide + low body fat + possible under-eating
Nocturia waking 2-3x nightly — being addressed by Tadalafil 10mg daily

BLOODWORK — March 10 2026:
Total Testosterone: 1,025 ng/dL (range 264-916)
Free Testosterone: 286 pg/mL (range 35-155)
Estradiol: 34 pg/mL
IGF-1: 241 ng/mL (range 68-196)
PSA: 3.04
HDL: 66
LDL: 74
Hematocrit: 46.3%
eGFR: 90
Creatinine: 0.99
Next bloodwork: May 26 2026

GOALS:
Peak condition July 4th 2026 — Week 10 of Masteron cycle
Eliminate remaining lower belly fat
Maintain and improve vascularity and muscle hardness
Long term: add 5lbs lean tissue

QUESTIONS FOR THE COMMUNITY:
At 50mg Masteron E daily (350mg/week) on 140mg testosterone — is this the correct dose for my goals and profile?

Carb cycling strategy at 7-9% body fat — how to stay full without blurring the midsection?

Cardio recommendations at my body fat level without sacrificing muscle?

E2 management on Masteron — currently 34 pg/mL — what should I watch for?

If anyone has anything else, you're welcome to chime in.

What a great start to a log this one is gonna be goooood!! Amazing pics and great abs bro!

Bloodwork looks great too. You have some very valid and interesting questions specifically about carbs and diet so let's get your log going for a few weeks with diet/macros and training and we'll be able to hone in on how to keep the water off while still carb cycling for workout output.

I'll be following along! Let's do this!

 

[Skinnybig]

Workout Log — April 30, 2026 — Legs — Day 4 Masteron

How I felt: Great. Intense pump in quads and chest. Looked noticeably bigger and fuller. Veins everywhere.

Training philosophy: I don't chase numbers or track weight. I train by feel. I always warm up to 1 rep in reserve before I start counting working sets. At 55 with 40+ years of training my focus is body composition and conditioning — not PRs. Exercise selection is intuitive — I decide what to do when I get to the gym based on how I feel that day.

Training:
Exercise
Sets
Reps
Leg Curl
15/15/13/12/13
Hip Extension
15/15/15/15
Single Leg Leg Press
12/12/12/12/12
Single Arm Tricep Extension
15/15/15
Machine Bench Press
12/12/12
Leg Extension
15/15
Crunch
12/12/12/12

Note: Always warm up triceps on leg day to lubricate elbows and get an extra chest pump. At 55 this protects the joints before any pressing movement.

Nutrition:
6:30am pre-workout — 40g whey
7-8:30am intra-workout — 80g dextrose
11:30am post-workout meal — 12oz beef/chicken + 8oz white rice + 3 whole eggs + banana
2 more meals pending — 12oz meat + 8oz rice + vegetables each
Daily Macros (estimated — full day):

Macro Amount
Protein ~270-300g
Carbs ~200-220g
Fat ~85-95g
Calories ~2,700-2,900
Sleep: 6-7 hours. Nocturia 2-3x nightly — being addressed by Tadalafil 10mg daily.
Overall: Day 4 on Masteron E 50mg daily. Pumps and fullness noticeably enhanced. Vascularity through the roof.

 

[ballin2504]

Ok, the lighting makes me look better. But I really do have abs and am vascular 24/7.

@Skinnybig damn man great start to the log and awesome physique! I’ll definitely be following along.

 

[LevButlerov]

Thanks for the warm welcome! Really appreciate the feedback.
Bloods: I'll get the actual paper scanned and posted. The numbers I listed are accurate from my March 10 2026 labs. Next bloodwork is May 26 2026 — will post full results when I get them.
Masteron and E2: The bloodwork was taken before starting Masteron — I just started Masteron E on April 27 2026 so only 3 days in. Will be monitoring E2 closely at May 26 bloodwork. Currently no high E2 symptoms — no water retention, good libido, joints feel fine.
Diet — full breakdown:
Meal 1 — 12oz meat (beef or chicken) + 8oz white rice cooked + vegetables
Meal 2 — 12oz meat (beef or chicken) + 8oz white rice cooked + vegetables
Meal 3 — 12oz meat (beef or chicken) + 8oz white rice cooked + vegetables
2 scoops whey protein daily
Intra-workout — 120g dextrose sipped throughout session
Meal timing:
Meal 1 — morning
Meal 2 — afternoon
Meal 3 — evening/post workout
Approximate daily macros:
Protein: 270-300g
Carbs: 170-190g plus 120g intra-workout dextrose
Fat: 80-90g
Calories: approximately 2,600-2,800
Currently rotating beef and chicken. Rice is my primary carb source. Vegetables are random — whatever is available.
The flatness vs midsection issue is my main diet challenge right now. When I reduce calories the midsection tightens but muscles go flat. When I increase carbs muscles fill out but midsection softens. Looking for the community's guidance on how to carb cycle effectively at my body fat level.
Training — clarification:
My training is intuitive. I follow a Push/Pull/Legs/Rest split but I don't pre-plan specific exercises. I decide what to do when I get to the gym based on how I feel that day.
What stays consistent:
Push day — chest, shoulders, triceps
Pull day — back, biceps
Legs — quads, hamstrings, glutes, calves
Rest
Repeat
Style: 5 sets per exercise, 3 minute rest intervals, 80-90 minute sessions
Strength benchmarks — I always work up to these numbers but don't go heavier:
Incline Bench — 5 x 10 at 215 lbs
Squat — 5 x 3 at 355 lbs
Deadlift — 5 x 3 at 355 lbs
At 55 with 40+ years of training my strength has peaked. These are my maintenance numbers — I hit them consistently but I'm not chasing PRs. Goal is body composition and conditioning, not adding weight to the bar. Exercise selection beyond the main lifts varies session to session based on feel.
Cardio:
Currently 20-30 minutes walking daily. Open to guidance on whether to increase duration, add incline, or switch to another modality without risking muscle loss at my body fat level.
Supplements — your questions:
Vitamin C — getting it through Centrum Silver Men 50+ — not taking additional high dose
Creatine — currently at 20g — will consider upping to 30g
Digestive enzymes — not currently taking
Probiotics — not currently taking
Psyllium husk — not currently taking
Multivitamin — Centrum Silver Men 50+ daily
Open to recommendations on digestive support — currently experiencing heartburn on 120g intra-workout dextrose. Considering switching to HBCD.
The lighting comment — you're right it helps but the abs and vascularity are real and visible 24/7. People at the gym regularly ask what I'm on. At 55 years old after 40+ years of training this is the best condition of my life.
Will start logging daily diet and training in more detail as I go. Thanks for the detailed questions — exactly the kind of guidance I was looking for.

This is good general but lets get day to day updates of actual training.
and foods get myfitnesspal some actual macros and foods @Skinnybig

 

[ceo]

I guess all the social media and those IG folks gave me body dysmorphia. But thanks for the compliment.

Bros haha, that's probably right.

 

[Tiger Salman Khan]

STATS:
Age: 55
Height: 5'10"
Weight: 184-186 lbs
Body Fat: 7-9%
Years Training: 40+ years (started age 12)

Cycle History: First anabolic cycle — TRT + HGH 6.5 months, added Masteron E April 27 2026
CURRENT PROTOCOL:
Testosterone (prescribed) — 20mg IM daily
HGH Genotropin (prescribed) — 2 IU IM nightly
HCG — 500 IU 2x/week
Masteron E (Pharmaqo) — 50mg IM daily — started April 27 2026
Tadalafil — 10mg daily
Retatrutide — 2mg weekly

SUPPLEMENTS:
Creatine — 20g sipped throughout training
Nordic Naturals Ultimate Omega — 4-6g EPA+DHA with meals
TUDCA (Double Wood) — 500mg with meals
NAC (Thorne) — per label, morning
Milk Thistle (NOW Foods) — 450mg with meals
Zinc (CVS) — 50mg daily
Centrum Silver Men 50+ — 1 tablet with food

HAIR PROTECTION:
Minoxidil (Kirkland) — 6+ months — daily

DIET:
3 meals daily:
Meal 1 — 12oz meat (beef or chicken) + 8oz white rice (cooked) + vegetables
Meal 2 — 12oz meat (beef or chicken) + 8oz white rice (cooked) + vegetables
Meal 3 — 12oz meat (beef or chicken) + 8oz white rice (cooked) + vegetables
2 scoops whey protein daily
Intra-workout: 120g dextrose (experiencing heartburn at this dose — seeking guidance on reducing or switching to HBCD)
Approximate daily macros:
Protein: 270-300g
Carbs: 170-190g
Fat: 80-90g
Calories: 2,600-2,800
Currently experiencing the classic flatness vs midsection dilemma — lower calories gives lean midsection but flat muscles. Higher carbs gives fuller muscles but softer midsection. Seeking carb cycling guidance for my goals.

TRAINING:
Push / Pull / Legs / Rest — repeating
Day 1: Push — Chest, Shoulders, Triceps
Day 2: Pull — Back, Biceps
Day 3: Legs — Quads, Hamstrings, Glutes, Calves
Day 4: Rest
Repeat

Core lifts: Incline Press (Push), Deadlift (Pull), Back Squat (Legs)
Style: 5 sets, 3 minute rest intervals, 80-90 minute sessions
Goal: Body composition and conditioning — not chasing PRs after 40 years of training

CARDIO:
Currently minimal — seeking community guidance on adding cardio without sacrificing muscle at 7-9% body fat

SLEEP:
Duration: approximately 6-7 hours
Situational sleepiness — drowsy in car and when standing still
Suspected cause: Retatrutide + low body fat + possible under-eating
Nocturia waking 2-3x nightly — being addressed by Tadalafil 10mg daily

BLOODWORK — March 10 2026:
Total Testosterone: 1,025 ng/dL (range 264-916)
Free Testosterone: 286 pg/mL (range 35-155)
Estradiol: 34 pg/mL
IGF-1: 241 ng/mL (range 68-196)
PSA: 3.04
HDL: 66
LDL: 74
Hematocrit: 46.3%
eGFR: 90
Creatinine: 0.99
Next bloodwork: May 26 2026

GOALS:
Peak condition July 4th 2026 — Week 10 of Masteron cycle
Eliminate remaining lower belly fat
Maintain and improve vascularity and muscle hardness
Long term: add 5lbs lean tissue

QUESTIONS FOR THE COMMUNITY:
At 50mg Masteron E daily (350mg/week) on 140mg testosterone — is this the correct dose for my goals and profile?

Carb cycling strategy at 7-9% body fat — how to stay full without blurring the midsection?

Cardio recommendations at my body fat level without sacrificing muscle?

E2 management on Masteron — currently 34 pg/mL — what should I watch for?

If anyone has anything else, you're welcome to chime in.

@Skinnybig good start to log.....looking forward to awesome updates......

 

[rizzlekdizzle]

I like your workout philosophy
Keep an eye on the nocturia if cialis doesn’t work might need a more focused med if it is BPH

 

[Skinnybig]

CYCLE UPDATE — Day 13
Still very early in the cycle — Masteron Enanthate blood levels still building. Already noticing meaningful changes even at this stage.
Weight:
Holding steady at 184lbs. Visually improving significantly while the scale stays flat. Classic recomposition — body composition improving without scale movement. Not focused on the number — focused on how I look and feel.
Pumps:
Pumps in the gym have been exceptional since the first week. Full, hard, sustained throughout the entire session. Vascularity noticeably enhanced during training. Already looking significantly fuller and harder than before starting Masteron.
Side effects:
Zero hair loss noticed. Zero acne. Joints feel fine. No negative sides whatsoever at day 13.
Libido:
Already elevated significantly. Masteron combined with Tadalafil 10mg daily is producing strong results in this department.
Nutrition:
Food adherence approximately 90%. Running 2-3 meals daily. Each meal consists of 12oz meat — rotating chicken breast on training days and beef on rest days — with 8-16oz white rice depending on how flat or full I feel. Adjusting rice up when muscles feel flat, down when midsection feels soft. Simple intuitive approach that's working well so far.
Training:
Push/Pull/Legs/Rest rotating split. 5 sets per exercise, 3 minute rest intervals, 80-90 minute sessions. Training by feel — exercise selection intuitive each session. At 55 with 40+ years of training I know my body well enough to train without a rigid program.
Strength benchmarks I maintain but don't exceed:
Incline Bench — 5 x 10 at 215lbs
Squat — 5 x 3 at 355lbs
Deadlift — 5 x 3 at 355lbs
Body composition:
Visually improving daily. Vascularity, hardness, and muscle separation all trending significantly in the right direction. Lower belly fat — my primary concern area — noticeably tighter than when I started. Progress photo attached — day 13 Masteron.
Next bloodwork: May 26 2026 — Week 4 of Masteron
Will post full results including PSA, HDL, E2, IGF-1, liver panel, and thyroid — first time thyroid has been tested.
Peak condition target: July 4th 2026 — Week 10 Masteron
57 days away. Blood levels not even fully saturated yet — weeks 5-10 still ahead.

 

[LevButlerov]

CYCLE UPDATE — Day 13
Still very early in the cycle — Masteron Enanthate blood levels still building. Already noticing meaningful changes even at this stage.
Weight:
Holding steady at 184lbs. Visually improving significantly while the scale stays flat. Classic recomposition — body composition improving without scale movement. Not focused on the number — focused on how I look and feel.
Pumps:
Pumps in the gym have been exceptional since the first week. Full, hard, sustained throughout the entire session. Vascularity noticeably enhanced during training. Already looking significantly fuller and harder than before starting Masteron.
Side effects:
Zero hair loss noticed. Zero acne. Joints feel fine. No negative sides whatsoever at day 13.
Libido:
Already elevated significantly. Masteron combined with Tadalafil 10mg daily is producing strong results in this department.
Nutrition:
Food adherence approximately 90%. Running 2-3 meals daily. Each meal consists of 12oz meat — rotating chicken breast on training days and beef on rest days — with 8-16oz white rice depending on how flat or full I feel. Adjusting rice up when muscles feel flat, down when midsection feels soft. Simple intuitive approach that's working well so far.
Training:
Push/Pull/Legs/Rest rotating split. 5 sets per exercise, 3 minute rest intervals, 80-90 minute sessions. Training by feel — exercise selection intuitive each session. At 55 with 40+ years of training I know my body well enough to train without a rigid program.
Strength benchmarks I maintain but don't exceed:
Incline Bench — 5 x 10 at 215lbs
Squat — 5 x 3 at 355lbs
Deadlift — 5 x 3 at 355lbs
Body composition:
Visually improving daily. Vascularity, hardness, and muscle separation all trending significantly in the right direction. Lower belly fat — my primary concern area — noticeably tighter than when I started. Progress photo attached — day 13 Masteron.
Next bloodwork: May 26 2026 — Week 4 of Masteron
Will post full results including PSA, HDL, E2, IGF-1, liver panel, and thyroid — first time thyroid has been tested.
Peak condition target: July 4th 2026 — Week 10 Masteron
57 days away. Blood levels not even fully saturated yet — weeks 5-10 still ahead.

you're looking really good shredded and hard abs nice @Skinnybig
355 squat and deads same? nice one!

@HarleyGuy @Allupfromhere @Pigsy @waggat @Trenhead3cc @Kopite67
@Grumpy @LH5515 @Yuri @Doctakay @catdadironman @bss @Shakey

 

[Yuri]

CYCLE UPDATE — Day 13
Still very early in the cycle — Masteron Enanthate blood levels still building. Already noticing meaningful changes even at this stage.
Weight:
Holding steady at 184lbs. Visually improving significantly while the scale stays flat. Classic recomposition — body composition improving without scale movement. Not focused on the number — focused on how I look and feel.
Pumps:
Pumps in the gym have been exceptional since the first week. Full, hard, sustained throughout the entire session. Vascularity noticeably enhanced during training. Already looking significantly fuller and harder than before starting Masteron.
Side effects:
Zero hair loss noticed. Zero acne. Joints feel fine. No negative sides whatsoever at day 13.
Libido:
Already elevated significantly. Masteron combined with Tadalafil 10mg daily is producing strong results in this department.
Nutrition:
Food adherence approximately 90%. Running 2-3 meals daily. Each meal consists of 12oz meat — rotating chicken breast on training days and beef on rest days — with 8-16oz white rice depending on how flat or full I feel. Adjusting rice up when muscles feel flat, down when midsection feels soft. Simple intuitive approach that's working well so far.
Training:
Push/Pull/Legs/Rest rotating split. 5 sets per exercise, 3 minute rest intervals, 80-90 minute sessions. Training by feel — exercise selection intuitive each session. At 55 with 40+ years of training I know my body well enough to train without a rigid program.
Strength benchmarks I maintain but don't exceed:
Incline Bench — 5 x 10 at 215lbs
Squat — 5 x 3 at 355lbs
Deadlift — 5 x 3 at 355lbs
Body composition:
Visually improving daily. Vascularity, hardness, and muscle separation all trending significantly in the right direction. Lower belly fat — my primary concern area — noticeably tighter than when I started. Progress photo attached — day 13 Masteron.
Next bloodwork: May 26 2026 — Week 4 of Masteron
Will post full results including PSA, HDL, E2, IGF-1, liver panel, and thyroid — first time thyroid has been tested.
Peak condition target: July 4th 2026 — Week 10 Masteron
57 days away. Blood levels not even fully saturated yet — weeks 5-10 still ahead.

Bro looking like a statue right now

 

[Shakey]

CYCLE UPDATE — Day 13
Still very early in the cycle — Masteron Enanthate blood levels still building. Already noticing meaningful changes even at this stage.
Weight:
Holding steady at 184lbs. Visually improving significantly while the scale stays flat. Classic recomposition — body composition improving without scale movement. Not focused on the number — focused on how I look and feel.
Pumps:
Pumps in the gym have been exceptional since the first week. Full, hard, sustained throughout the entire session. Vascularity noticeably enhanced during training. Already looking significantly fuller and harder than before starting Masteron.
Side effects:
Zero hair loss noticed. Zero acne. Joints feel fine. No negative sides whatsoever at day 13.
Libido:
Already elevated significantly. Masteron combined with Tadalafil 10mg daily is producing strong results in this department.
Nutrition:
Food adherence approximately 90%. Running 2-3 meals daily. Each meal consists of 12oz meat — rotating chicken breast on training days and beef on rest days — with 8-16oz white rice depending on how flat or full I feel. Adjusting rice up when muscles feel flat, down when midsection feels soft. Simple intuitive approach that's working well so far.
Training:
Push/Pull/Legs/Rest rotating split. 5 sets per exercise, 3 minute rest intervals, 80-90 minute sessions. Training by feel — exercise selection intuitive each session. At 55 with 40+ years of training I know my body well enough to train without a rigid program.
Strength benchmarks I maintain but don't exceed:
Incline Bench — 5 x 10 at 215lbs
Squat — 5 x 3 at 355lbs
Deadlift — 5 x 3 at 355lbs
Body composition:
Visually improving daily. Vascularity, hardness, and muscle separation all trending significantly in the right direction. Lower belly fat — my primary concern area — noticeably tighter than when I started. Progress photo attached — day 13 Masteron.
Next bloodwork: May 26 2026 — Week 4 of Masteron
Will post full results including PSA, HDL, E2, IGF-1, liver panel, and thyroid — first time thyroid has been tested.
Peak condition target: July 4th 2026 — Week 10 Masteron
57 days away. Blood levels not even fully saturated yet — weeks 5-10 still ahead.

God damn. Pantheon physique.

 

[Allupfromhere]

CYCLE UPDATE — Day 13
Still very early in the cycle — Masteron Enanthate blood levels still building. Already noticing meaningful changes even at this stage.
Weight:
Holding steady at 184lbs. Visually improving significantly while the scale stays flat. Classic recomposition — body composition improving without scale movement. Not focused on the number — focused on how I look and feel.
Pumps:
Pumps in the gym have been exceptional since the first week. Full, hard, sustained throughout the entire session. Vascularity noticeably enhanced during training. Already looking significantly fuller and harder than before starting Masteron.
Side effects:
Zero hair loss noticed. Zero acne. Joints feel fine. No negative sides whatsoever at day 13.
Libido:
Already elevated significantly. Masteron combined with Tadalafil 10mg daily is producing strong results in this department.
Nutrition:
Food adherence approximately 90%. Running 2-3 meals daily. Each meal consists of 12oz meat — rotating chicken breast on training days and beef on rest days — with 8-16oz white rice depending on how flat or full I feel. Adjusting rice up when muscles feel flat, down when midsection feels soft. Simple intuitive approach that's working well so far.
Training:
Push/Pull/Legs/Rest rotating split. 5 sets per exercise, 3 minute rest intervals, 80-90 minute sessions. Training by feel — exercise selection intuitive each session. At 55 with 40+ years of training I know my body well enough to train without a rigid program.
Strength benchmarks I maintain but don't exceed:
Incline Bench — 5 x 10 at 215lbs
Squat — 5 x 3 at 355lbs
Deadlift — 5 x 3 at 355lbs
Body composition:
Visually improving daily. Vascularity, hardness, and muscle separation all trending significantly in the right direction. Lower belly fat — my primary concern area — noticeably tighter than when I started. Progress photo attached — day 13 Masteron.
Next bloodwork: May 26 2026 — Week 4 of Masteron
Will post full results including PSA, HDL, E2, IGF-1, liver panel, and thyroid — first time thyroid has been tested.
Peak condition target: July 4th 2026 — Week 10 Masteron
57 days away. Blood levels not even fully saturated yet — weeks 5-10 still ahead.

Dammnnnn brother
Literally carved from stone

 

[Grumpy]

Your physique is outstanding man well done

 

[Skinnybig]

Thanks guys. Glad I found a place that appreciates hard work.

 

[waggat]

CYCLE UPDATE — Day 13
Still very early in the cycle — Masteron Enanthate blood levels still building. Already noticing meaningful changes even at this stage.
Weight:
Holding steady at 184lbs. Visually improving significantly while the scale stays flat. Classic recomposition — body composition improving without scale movement. Not focused on the number — focused on how I look and feel.
Pumps:
Pumps in the gym have been exceptional since the first week. Full, hard, sustained throughout the entire session. Vascularity noticeably enhanced during training. Already looking significantly fuller and harder than before starting Masteron.
Side effects:
Zero hair loss noticed. Zero acne. Joints feel fine. No negative sides whatsoever at day 13.
Libido:
Already elevated significantly. Masteron combined with Tadalafil 10mg daily is producing strong results in this department.
Nutrition:
Food adherence approximately 90%. Running 2-3 meals daily. Each meal consists of 12oz meat — rotating chicken breast on training days and beef on rest days — with 8-16oz white rice depending on how flat or full I feel. Adjusting rice up when muscles feel flat, down when midsection feels soft. Simple intuitive approach that's working well so far.
Training:
Push/Pull/Legs/Rest rotating split. 5 sets per exercise, 3 minute rest intervals, 80-90 minute sessions. Training by feel — exercise selection intuitive each session. At 55 with 40+ years of training I know my body well enough to train without a rigid program.
Strength benchmarks I maintain but don't exceed:
Incline Bench — 5 x 10 at 215lbs
Squat — 5 x 3 at 355lbs
Deadlift — 5 x 3 at 355lbs
Body composition:
Visually improving daily. Vascularity, hardness, and muscle separation all trending significantly in the right direction. Lower belly fat — my primary concern area — noticeably tighter than when I started. Progress photo attached — day 13 Masteron.
Next bloodwork: May 26 2026 — Week 4 of Masteron
Will post full results including PSA, HDL, E2, IGF-1, liver panel, and thyroid — first time thyroid has been tested.
Peak condition target: July 4th 2026 — Week 10 Masteron
57 days away. Blood levels not even fully saturated yet — weeks 5-10 still ahead.

Looking good mate. Lean as!

 

[HarleyGuy]

Thanks guys. Glad I found a place that appreciates hard work.

Bro you have mad respect here and we appreciate you! You look incredible and rock hard. Vascularity and density are maxed out hard I love it!

 

[Trenhead3cc]

CYCLE UPDATE — Day 13
Still very early in the cycle — Masteron Enanthate blood levels still building. Already noticing meaningful changes even at this stage.
Weight:
Holding steady at 184lbs. Visually improving significantly while the scale stays flat. Classic recomposition — body composition improving without scale movement. Not focused on the number — focused on how I look and feel.
Pumps:
Pumps in the gym have been exceptional since the first week. Full, hard, sustained throughout the entire session. Vascularity noticeably enhanced during training. Already looking significantly fuller and harder than before starting Masteron.
Side effects:
Zero hair loss noticed. Zero acne. Joints feel fine. No negative sides whatsoever at day 13.
Libido:
Already elevated significantly. Masteron combined with Tadalafil 10mg daily is producing strong results in this department.
Nutrition:
Food adherence approximately 90%. Running 2-3 meals daily. Each meal consists of 12oz meat — rotating chicken breast on training days and beef on rest days — with 8-16oz white rice depending on how flat or full I feel. Adjusting rice up when muscles feel flat, down when midsection feels soft. Simple intuitive approach that's working well so far.
Training:
Push/Pull/Legs/Rest rotating split. 5 sets per exercise, 3 minute rest intervals, 80-90 minute sessions. Training by feel — exercise selection intuitive each session. At 55 with 40+ years of training I know my body well enough to train without a rigid program.
Strength benchmarks I maintain but don't exceed:
Incline Bench — 5 x 10 at 215lbs
Squat — 5 x 3 at 355lbs
Deadlift — 5 x 3 at 355lbs
Body composition:
Visually improving daily. Vascularity, hardness, and muscle separation all trending significantly in the right direction. Lower belly fat — my primary concern area — noticeably tighter than when I started. Progress photo attached — day 13 Masteron.
Next bloodwork: May 26 2026 — Week 4 of Masteron
Will post full results including PSA, HDL, E2, IGF-1, liver panel, and thyroid — first time thyroid has been tested.
Peak condition target: July 4th 2026 — Week 10 Masteron
57 days away. Blood levels not even fully saturated yet — weeks 5-10 still ahead.

Oh get fcked your 55!! if I look half as good as that I would be stoked! Lucky your not in Aus or I be losing it - save some of the cougars and women for the rest of us!

This is my dream and anyone’s dream physique at 55

 

[Skinnybig]

A note on my background and why this protocol is working:
I want to be transparent with the community about why I think I'm responding this well. I've been lifting since I was 12 years old — that's over 40 years of consistent training. I didn't touch TRT, HGH, or any anabolic until I was 55. I built this foundation naturally over decades — staying lean pretty much my entire life and putting in the work year after year.
When I finally started TRT and HGH at 55 — it supercharged what I already had. The muscle mass, the conditioning, the structure — it was already there. The protocol didn't build it from scratch. It optimized and enhanced a foundation that took 40 years to build.

And remember, im only on 140mg test per week. Foundation is very important.

 

[LevButlerov]

A note on my background and why this protocol is working:
I want to be transparent with the community about why I think I'm responding this well. I've been lifting since I was 12 years old — that's over 40 years of consistent training. I didn't touch TRT, HGH, or any anabolic until I was 55. I built this foundation naturally over decades — staying lean pretty much my entire life and putting in the work year after year.
When I finally started TRT and HGH at 55 — it supercharged what I already had. The muscle mass, the conditioning, the structure — it was already there. The protocol didn't build it from scratch. It optimized and enhanced a foundation that took 40 years to build.

And remember, im only on 140mg test per week. Foundation is very important.

interesting lets keep this updated following

 

[Skinnybig]

Just got a full DEXA scan done. Here's what 7 months on TRT + HGH looks like on gold standard measurement.

The transformation since starting TRT + HGH October 2025:

Body Fat: 14.5% → 7% (-7.5%)
Lean Mass: 156.4 lbs → 173 lbs (+16.6 lbs)
Fat Mass: 27.7 lbs → 13 lbs (-14.7 lbs)
Visceral Fat: 0.81 lbs → 0.05 lbs (-0.76 lbs)

Bloodwork tomorrow - will post full results including PSA, HDL, E2, IGF-1, and first ever thyroid panel. Day 15 Masteron.

 

[LevButlerov]

Just got a full DEXA scan done. Here's what 7 months on TRT + HGH looks like on gold standard measurement.

The transformation since starting TRT + HGH October 2025:

Body Fat: 14.5% → 7% (-7.5%)
Lean Mass: 156.4 lbs → 173 lbs (+16.6 lbs)
Fat Mass: 27.7 lbs → 13 lbs (-14.7 lbs)
Visceral Fat: 0.81 lbs → 0.05 lbs (-0.76 lbs)

Bloodwork tomorrow - will post full results including PSA, HDL, E2, IGF-1, and first ever thyroid panel. Day 15 Masteron.

nice one but can you post the paper of the results? @Skinnybig

 

[Skinnybig]

They just load it to an app now.

 

[rizzlekdizzle]

carved from granite mate!

 

[LevButlerov]

They just load it to an app now.View attachment 230097View attachment 230098View attachment 230099

lean and hard

 

[Skinnybig]

So I picked up some anavar 25mg tablets from my HTT clinic this morning. Any thoughts on if I should use them? If so whats a good dosage and cycle length. Consider my age. Oh, they also recommend i should bump up my test from 140 to 200ish.

Let me pose a question, if my test is already above a 1000, is there a point in going up to 200mg????

 

[LevButlerov]

So I picked up some anavar 25mg tablets from my HTT clinic this morning. Any thoughts on if I should use them? If so whats a good dosage and cycle length. Consider my age. Oh, they also recommend i should bump up my test from 140 to 200ish.

Let me pose a question, if my test is already above a 1000, is there a point in going up to 200mg????

it depends, you mean an HRT clinic gave you anavar? what brand? @Skinnybig

 

[Skinnybig]

No brand. Its from a local compound pharmacy.

 

[rizzlekdizzle]

thats crazy that you get anavar and they want to bump your test dose - have they seen you shirtless? lol

Let me pose a question, if my test is already above a 1000, is there a point in going up to 200mg

why not take it even further

 

[Skinnybig]

thats crazy that you get anavar and they want to bump your test dose - have they seen you shirtless? lol

why not take it even further

Hahahaha. I told them id like to gain about 5 lbs of tissue. Ive stayed the same weight. They first suggested deca but I didn't want anything wet.

 

[LevButlerov]

No brand. Its from a local compound pharmacy.

how much do you have?

 

[Skinnybig]

100 count. But they can give me more.

 

[rizzlekdizzle]

Hahahaha. I told them id like to gain about 5 lbs of tissue. Ive stayed the same weight. They first suggested deca but I didn't want anything wet.

I doubt you will get much water weight with deca on your physique mate - if you do it right it can be a lean bulker for sure.

 

[LevButlerov]

100 count. But they can give me more.

I'm surprised they handing out anavar lol gear in USA Is pretty much OTC just some get ground up on this nonsense.

 

[Skinnybig]

I just called and asked if they'll get me some deca and they said no problem!

 

[Flash_is_Fast]

Yep. Trt clinics are good for deca and var. mine will offer deca 200mg/wk and Anavar at 50mg/d for 8wks at a time. About 2-3x ugl pricing though.

 

[LevButlerov]

I just called and asked if they'll get me some deca and they said no problem!

Deca and anavar lol USA TRT has started sourcing gear @Skinnybig

 

[Skinnybig]

Quick update and question for the community.

Day 19 on Masteron E 50mg daily. Body fat is at 7% confirmed by DEXA. Visceral fat essentially zero. Protocol is clearly working — fat loss goal is basically achieved.

I have clinic prescribed Anavar 25mg tabs just approved by my doctor. Rather than running it as a traditional anabolic I am thinking of using it purely as a pre-workout for the pump. I am addicted to the pumps I am getting from Masteron and want to take it to the next level.

My question to the community — has anyone used Anavar strictly as a pre-workout on top of a Masteron cycle? Does the pump difference justify it at just 25mg? And should I just run it daily at 25mg or save it specifically for training days only?

 

[LevButlerov]

Quick update and question for the community.

Day 19 on Masteron E 50mg daily. Body fat is at 7% confirmed by DEXA. Visceral fat essentially zero. Protocol is clearly working — fat loss goal is basically achieved.

I have clinic prescribed Anavar 25mg tabs just approved by my doctor. Rather than running it as a traditional anabolic I am thinking of using it purely as a pre-workout for the pump. I am addicted to the pumps I am getting from Masteron and want to take it to the next level.

My question to the community — has anyone used Anavar strictly as a pre-workout on top of a Masteron cycle? Does the pump difference justify it at just 25mg? And should I just run it daily at 25mg or save it specifically for training days only?

sure anavar sublingual preworkout works well very well! but use it on training days only @Skinnybig
i have a question why do you ai to write this? seems like nothing complex

 

[Skinnybig]

Big fingers and small keyboard on the phone. I also want to make sure I include all information. Oh, and being lazy.

 

[LevButlerov]

Big fingers and small keyboard on the phone. I also want to make sure I include all information. Oh, and being lazy.

it happens