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For someone with regular to high natural testosterone production, wouldn’t it be a lot smarter to take HGH? When and why don’t more people do that, and why would u consider it.

I’m 2.5 weeks into my 12 week test e cycle and the amount of weight I’m lifting is going up drastically. I’m ordering bac water for my Hcg and will add that to my test e and AI stack week 4. However I reluctantly told a friend I was doing test and he freaked out on me, and put a lot of seeds of doubt in my head about ruining my test production for life. Hence, HGH. Is it the better option?
 
HGH does very little without well above natural hormone levels. It really doesn’t do much for growth, anyway, just a little on the margins, and a good bit more for fat mobilization.
 
LittleTimeTrouble said:
HGH does very little without well above natural hormone levels. It really doesn’t do much for growth, anyway, just a little on the margins, and a good bit more for fat mobilization.
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Okay thank you. Also, how worried should I be about having little to no test again after my cycle? I only got 10.5 weeks left at 500mg a week, I’ll be starting hcg soon and ofc I got tamoxifen to start around week 15.
 
hcg does NOTHING except mimic LH and plump your nuts on cycle. there is zero evidence that it has any sort of advantage to helping you recover or any of that other bro science. in fact if you use hcg during pct it will actually DELAY recovery. not sure why people don't understand this. think about why. its signaling your pituitary glands to shut down, so yes your nuts get bigger because that LH mimicking is happening but in reality it is fools gold and doing more damage that you don't notice

what you want to do is run pct after cycle. keep your cycles short. and then allow your body to recover without getting in its way

as far as HGH. when you use exogenous hgh it doesn't suppress you. because GH is pulsing in the body. when you fast longer than 10 hours hgh starts to rise and continues to rise for days with no food. once you eat your HGH craters back down. so the idea behind using exogenous hgh is you want to take it right before you eat your first meal of the day. that way you get the pulse even after food.

and no hgh isn't gonna come close to the benefits as AAS will in terms of strength and muscle .. but is good for anti aging, harder sleep and fat loss

unless you are competing, i wouldn't waste my money on hgh if you are under 40 or even 50 years old. i've used it twice myself but don't plan on using it often until i am well into my 50's. you can get a nice hgh pulse by simply fasting longer than 15-20 hours and it is natural GH in the body that is much more beneficial and cheaper then pinning it
 
BigfugginBronco said:
For someone with regular to high natural testosterone production, wouldn’t it be a lot smarter to take HGH? When and why don’t more people do that, and why would u consider it.

I’m 2.5 weeks into my 12 week test e cycle and the amount of weight I’m lifting is going up drastically. I’m ordering bac water for my Hcg and will add that to my test e and AI stack week 4. However I reluctantly told a friend I was doing test and he freaked out on me, and put a lot of seeds of doubt in my head about ruining my test production for life. Hence, HGH. Is it the better option?
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BigfugginBronco said:
Okay thank you. Also, how worried should I be about having little to no test again after my cycle? I only got 10.5 weeks left at 500mg a week, I’ll be starting hcg soon and ofc I got tamoxifen to start around week 15.
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@BigfugginBronco welcome to the evolutionary.org family and your friend is way wrong , you can do proper PCT post cycle and you will get your natural testosterone levels back up to where you were, you just have to do it right

on the hgh, i dont think you need it but maybe you do need it hard to say because we know next to nothing about you literally

what we need is for you to share your LOG journal in a NEW thread of this test cycle you're doing , mainly diet training injection schedule cardio supps and more

To really guide you we need more info, we need you to share your diet, training, cardio, sleep, supplements etc log with us, full log journal so our guidance is based on facts you provide.

If you want us to really guide you, and we have 100s of years of experience between us, you need to post a LOG Journal with your stats (weight,height,age, years training, cycle history) diet, training, cardio, supplement, sleep details. If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.

Please post a Log Journal asap for us

Please click the anabolic forum
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top RIGHT, you see: +POST THREAD
click that

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example: My testosterone cycle Log
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https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-cycle-training-log.86383/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/dozers-journey-to-the-stage-and-cycle.84184/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roidrage69-log.90127
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https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/new-cycle.84662/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/summer-bulking-cycle.85543/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/lefr34ks-training-log.85141/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/pigsys-training-log.83248/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/echos-hgh-log-and-cycle.85429/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-cycle-log.85538/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-contest-prep-log.87619/

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BigfugginBronco said:
For someone with regular to high natural testosterone production, wouldn’t it be a lot smarter to take HGH? When and why don’t more people do that, and why would u consider it.

I’m 2.5 weeks into my 12 week test e cycle and the amount of weight I’m lifting is going up drastically. I’m ordering bac water for my Hcg and will add that to my test e and AI stack week 4. However I reluctantly told a friend I was doing test and he freaked out on me, and put a lot of seeds of doubt in my head about ruining my test production for life. Hence, HGH. Is it the better option?
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To what end - you didn't say
 
HGH with AAS is ticket
 
i run a lot of HGH but i'm a pro
when I compete I exceed over 12IU a day sometimes
that's what you have to do to become a champion
 
Get a log Journal up and we will guide you along
whether you want to become a pro or whether you're just a normal gym rat we can help you
 
if you start using steroids and cycle them on/off you will be okay and won't need it for life
that's why it's important to do a log Journal so we can guide you on cycle and then when you come off so you recover properly
 
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before you hop on HGH you should list everything that you're currently taking and anything that you plan on taking
that includes supplements and anything else as well
 
if you can afford growth hormone then it's an amazing thing to use
but don't just get on it just for the hell of it make sure there's a plan and log it
 
Some people just do not like HGH because you have to pin daily, run it long term (minimum 6 months for any noticeable results), it is expensive, and it is faked more than anything else out there (regarding PEDs). Steroids are cheap and effective. They are very different compounds as well but that is my simplified answer.
 
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