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[NrthrnBear]

Hey, looking for wisdom. New to this forum and looking to learn. I'm 46 with years of off again and on again power lifting and strongman training around my career. I finally find myself in a place that I can concentrate on consistent training and want to put on some serious mass and strength. I'm 6'1" 285lbs with approximately 30% or less body fat. I've read a couple of threads on other sites before finding this great place of knowledge. I've seen things like this:

12-Week Decanosyn Cycle Plan​

[td]Week[/td][td]Decanosyn (mg/week)[/td][td]Testosterone (mg/week)[/td][td]Support[/td][td]Optional Add-On[/td] [td]1–4[/td][td]300[/td][td]300 (Test E or Cyp)[/td][td]NAC, Omega-3s[/td][td]Anavar 40 mg/day[/td] [td]5–8[/td][td]400[/td][td]400[/td][td]Aromasin 12.5 mg EOD[/td][td]EQ or Primo[/td] [td]9–12[/td][td]400[/td][td]400[/td][td]Cabergoline (optional)[/td][td]Prepare for PCT[/td]

Post Cycle Therapy (Recommended)​

• Start: 14–21 days after last injection
• Clomid: 50/50/25/25 mg (Weeks 13–16)
• Nolvadex (optional): 40/40/20/20 mg

I'm intersted in Deca and stacking it with something else but don't want to waste my time or put my health at risk. Maximum mass, strength and joint support. I can cut towards spring.

 

[LevButlerov]

Hey, looking for wisdom. New to this forum and looking to learn. I'm 46 with years of off again and on again power lifting and strongman training around my career. I finally find myself in a place that I can concentrate on consistent training and want to put on some serious mass and strength. I'm 6'1" 285lbs with approximately 30% or less body fat. I've read a couple of threads on other sites before finding this great place of knowledge. I've seen things like this:

12-Week Decanosyn Cycle Plan​

[td]Week[/td][td]Decanosyn (mg/week)[/td][td]Testosterone (mg/week)[/td][td]Support[/td][td]Optional Add-On[/td] [td]1–4[/td][td]300[/td][td]300 (Test E or Cyp)[/td][td]NAC, Omega-3s[/td][td]Anavar 40 mg/day[/td] [td]5–8[/td][td]400[/td][td]400[/td][td]Aromasin 12.5 mg EOD[/td][td]EQ or Primo[/td] [td]9–12[/td][td]400[/td][td]400[/td][td]Cabergoline (optional)[/td][td]Prepare for PCT[/td]

Post Cycle Therapy (Recommended)​

• Start: 14–21 days after last injection
• Clomid: 50/50/25/25 mg (Weeks 13–16)
• Nolvadex (optional): 40/40/20/20 mg

I'm intersted in Deca and stacking it with something else but don't want to waste my time or put my health at risk. Maximum mass, strength and joint support. I can cut towards spring.

welcome to the EVO family @NrthrnBear happy to have you here. We will help you.

Cycles
For your bodyfat I wouldn't recommend any cycles without us properly dialing in your diet and training first and really getting into GLP-1s

If you want real real help like truth, we need to know more about you, how? you need to start a pre cycle log basically a lifestyle log in a new thread, that talks about your diet training cardio sleep history and more and we can guide you into a full cycle from there, takes 15min to get it up and 5-10min to update, and without a log no one can really help you with honesty.

HOW-TO LOG?

Why is a Log Journal important?

• Doing a log will actually help you way more than just dropping random updates. When you lay it all out week by week you start to see patterns in your body that you won’t catch otherwise.
• Other guys here run logs all the time and there’s no privacy issue, nobody is asking for your name or anything personal, it is just training, diet, and how the compound feels.
• The feedback you get is also way better because people can follow along and spot things you might miss. It also helps the next guy who is thinking about running the same compound so you are giving back while you learn.
• Even if you think you might not stick with it, just starting the log makes it easier to come back and add quick notes. That way you get more out of what you are running instead of keeping it all in your head.

To really guide you we need more info from you:

• Please share your diet, training, cardio, sleep, supplements etc log with us in a NEW thread, full log journal so our guidance is based on facts you provide.
• It will take 15-20 minutes max.
• We have 100s of years of experience between us, so you need to post a LOG Journal with your stats (weight,height,age, years training, cycle history) diet, training, cardio, supplement, sleep details. If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.

Please post a Log Journal asap for us

Please click the anabolic forum
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/forums/anabolic-steroids-and-peds.2/
top RIGHT, you see: +POST THREAD
click that

in Title: write your cycle name, like> My _____ Cycle Log
___ = the name of your log
example: My Training Diet Lifestyle pre-cycle Log
in body: write your planned cycle or cycle you doing now, your diet, training and we will help you along on your cycle

here are examples of LOG Journals

https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-recomp-cut-log-2023-2024.96694/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/mobsters-training-diary.84438/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roidrage69-log.90127
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/domestic-supply-bulking-log-25homes-max.97609/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...obolan-equipoise-tbol-contest-prep-log.97138/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...osterone-deca-primobolan-hgh-cycle-log.97978/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...igas-hgh-and-bpc157-recovery-cycle-log.97594/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...enbolone-cycle-log-let-the-gains-begin.98399/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/pigsy-new-sponsor-ugl-contest-prep-log.96779/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-2023-2024-log.95956/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...stosterone-cardarine-cutting-cycle-log.97281/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roidragewife-female-training-log.95769/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/2024-lean-bulking-cycle-log.97986/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-trt-with-deca-durabolin-log.97962/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...bodybuilding-log-masters-55-competitor.97210/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/losiol-primobolan-testosterone-log.96581/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roughy-steroid-cycle-and-training.97944/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/fatboy999-2024-cycle-log.97936/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/testosterone-equipoise-trenbolone-cycle-log.96963/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-trt-log.98284/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/16-week-testosterone-cardarine-n2guard-cycle-log.98034/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/training-log-female.90425
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...tosterone-masteron-primobolan-blast-log.98328
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/25homes-revenge-transformation-log-2023.88570/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...n-season-sponsored-by-nordic-fusion-log.89817
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-contest-prep-log.87619/

P.S. are you listening to our podcast? if not, you should; this podcast is about steroids, sarms, peptides, and bodybuilding:
https://www.evolutionary.org/podcasts/
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/evolutionary-bodybuilding-radio/id1798623410
https://open.spotify.com/show/53q1RFTgG4h6TQHsJ4xY6Z

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[Mobster]

Zero idea of what you tried to paste.

But Deca at 30%? No

 

[s.gentz]

Hey, looking for wisdom. New to this forum and looking to learn. I'm 46 with years of off again and on again power lifting and strongman training around my career. I finally find myself in a place that I can concentrate on consistent training and want to put on some serious mass and strength. I'm 6'1" 285lbs with approximately 30% or less body fat. I've read a couple of threads on other sites before finding this great place of knowledge. I've seen things like this:

12-Week Decanosyn Cycle Plan​

[td]Week[/td][td]Decanosyn (mg/week)[/td][td]Testosterone (mg/week)[/td][td]Support[/td][td]Optional Add-On[/td] [td]1–4[/td][td]300[/td][td]300 (Test E or Cyp)[/td][td]NAC, Omega-3s[/td][td]Anavar 40 mg/day[/td] [td]5–8[/td][td]400[/td][td]400[/td][td]Aromasin 12.5 mg EOD[/td][td]EQ or Primo[/td] [td]9–12[/td][td]400[/td][td]400[/td][td]Cabergoline (optional)[/td][td]Prepare for PCT[/td]

Post Cycle Therapy (Recommended)​

• Start: 14–21 days after last injection
• Clomid: 50/50/25/25 mg (Weeks 13–16)
• Nolvadex (optional): 40/40/20/20 mg

I'm intersted in Deca and stacking it with something else but don't want to waste my time or put my health at risk. Maximum mass, strength and joint support. I can cut towards spring.

Agree with @LevButlerov here. 30% BF is not a good place to start a growth cycle. Your gonna be 35%+ by the time your done.
REecommend you star a log and get the BF down below 20% before even thinking about using gear.
Start a log so we can help get you in the right place to reach your goals.

 

[stevesmi]

Hey, looking for wisdom. New to this forum and looking to learn. I'm 46 with years of off again and on again power lifting and strongman training around my career. I finally find myself in a place that I can concentrate on consistent training and want to put on some serious mass and strength. I'm 6'1" 285lbs with approximately 30% or less body fat. I've read a couple of threads on other sites before finding this great place of knowledge. I've seen things like this:

12-Week Decanosyn Cycle Plan​

[td]Week[/td][td]Decanosyn (mg/week)[/td][td]Testosterone (mg/week)[/td][td]Support[/td][td]Optional Add-On[/td] [td]1–4[/td][td]300[/td][td]300 (Test E or Cyp)[/td][td]NAC, Omega-3s[/td][td]Anavar 40 mg/day[/td] [td]5–8[/td][td]400[/td][td]400[/td][td]Aromasin 12.5 mg EOD[/td][td]EQ or Primo[/td] [td]9–12[/td][td]400[/td][td]400[/td][td]Cabergoline (optional)[/td][td]Prepare for PCT[/td]

Post Cycle Therapy (Recommended)​

• Start: 14–21 days after last injection
• Clomid: 50/50/25/25 mg (Weeks 13–16)
• Nolvadex (optional): 40/40/20/20 mg

I'm intersted in Deca and stacking it with something else but don't want to waste my time or put my health at risk. Maximum mass, strength and joint support. I can cut towards spring.

you need to forget steroids man. just focus on cutting down first. you can get a hold of me for a 1 on 1 and we can go over all of this. it starts with DIET first. until you fix that then nothing else matters

 

[BodyMonster34]

Hey, looking for wisdom. New to this forum and looking to learn. I'm 46 with years of off again and on again power lifting and strongman training around my career. I finally find myself in a place that I can concentrate on consistent training and want to put on some serious mass and strength. I'm 6'1" 285lbs with approximately 30% or less body fat. I've read a couple of threads on other sites before finding this great place of knowledge. I've seen things like this:

12-Week Decanosyn Cycle Plan​

[td]Week[/td][td]Decanosyn (mg/week)[/td][td]Testosterone (mg/week)[/td][td]Support[/td][td]Optional Add-On[/td] [td]1–4[/td][td]300[/td][td]300 (Test E or Cyp)[/td][td]NAC, Omega-3s[/td][td]Anavar 40 mg/day[/td] [td]5–8[/td][td]400[/td][td]400[/td][td]Aromasin 12.5 mg EOD[/td][td]EQ or Primo[/td] [td]9–12[/td][td]400[/td][td]400[/td][td]Cabergoline (optional)[/td][td]Prepare for PCT[/td]

Post Cycle Therapy (Recommended)​

• Start: 14–21 days after last injection
• Clomid: 50/50/25/25 mg (Weeks 13–16)
• Nolvadex (optional): 40/40/20/20 mg

I'm intersted in Deca and stacking it with something else but don't want to waste my time or put my health at risk. Maximum mass, strength and joint support. I can cut towards spring.

bro get new log up. let see what we looking at

 

[ceo]

Hey, looking for wisdom. New to this forum and looking to learn. I'm 46 with years of off again and on again power lifting and strongman training around my career. I finally find myself in a place that I can concentrate on consistent training and want to put on some serious mass and strength. I'm 6'1" 285lbs with approximately 30% or less body fat. I've read a couple of threads on other sites before finding this great place of knowledge. I've seen things like this:

12-Week Decanosyn Cycle Plan​

[td]Week[/td][td]Decanosyn (mg/week)[/td][td]Testosterone (mg/week)[/td][td]Support[/td][td]Optional Add-On[/td] [td]1–4[/td][td]300[/td][td]300 (Test E or Cyp)[/td][td]NAC, Omega-3s[/td][td]Anavar 40 mg/day[/td] [td]5–8[/td][td]400[/td][td]400[/td][td]Aromasin 12.5 mg EOD[/td][td]EQ or Primo[/td] [td]9–12[/td][td]400[/td][td]400[/td][td]Cabergoline (optional)[/td][td]Prepare for PCT[/td]

Post Cycle Therapy (Recommended)​

• Start: 14–21 days after last injection
• Clomid: 50/50/25/25 mg (Weeks 13–16)
• Nolvadex (optional): 40/40/20/20 mg

I'm intersted in Deca and stacking it with something else but don't want to waste my time or put my health at risk. Maximum mass, strength and joint support. I can cut towards spring.

bros deca a bad idea. it for bulking. you need to straight cut listen to the guys

 

[ROIDDERS]

Hey, looking for wisdom. New to this forum and looking to learn. I'm 46 with years of off again and on again power lifting and strongman training around my career. I finally find myself in a place that I can concentrate on consistent training and want to put on some serious mass and strength. I'm 6'1" 285lbs with approximately 30% or less body fat. I've read a couple of threads on other sites before finding this great place of knowledge. I've seen things like this:

12-Week Decanosyn Cycle Plan​

[td]Week[/td][td]Decanosyn (mg/week)[/td][td]Testosterone (mg/week)[/td][td]Support[/td][td]Optional Add-On[/td] [td]1–4[/td][td]300[/td][td]300 (Test E or Cyp)[/td][td]NAC, Omega-3s[/td][td]Anavar 40 mg/day[/td] [td]5–8[/td][td]400[/td][td]400[/td][td]Aromasin 12.5 mg EOD[/td][td]EQ or Primo[/td] [td]9–12[/td][td]400[/td][td]400[/td][td]Cabergoline (optional)[/td][td]Prepare for PCT[/td]

Post Cycle Therapy (Recommended)​

• Start: 14–21 days after last injection
• Clomid: 50/50/25/25 mg (Weeks 13–16)
• Nolvadex (optional): 40/40/20/20 mg

I'm intersted in Deca and stacking it with something else but don't want to waste my time or put my health at risk. Maximum mass, strength and joint support. I can cut towards spring.

get a log going. we want to see your training and diet. that is going to be more important then steroids. also you should look at the GLP1's

 

[John Carmack]

His original table.

Week	Decanosyn (mg/week)	Testosterone (mg/week)	Support	Optional Add-On
1–4	300	300 (Test E or Cyp)	NAC, Omega-3s	Anavar 40 mg/day
5–8	400	400	Aromasin 12.5 mg EOD	EQ or Primo
9–12	400	400	Cabergoline (optional)	Prepare for PCT

 

[2Thick]

Hey, looking for wisdom. New to this forum and looking to learn. I'm 46 with years of off again and on again power lifting and strongman training around my career. I finally find myself in a place that I can concentrate on consistent training and want to put on some serious mass and strength. I'm 6'1" 285lbs with approximately 30% or less body fat. I've read a couple of threads on other sites before finding this great place of knowledge. I've seen things like this:

12-Week Decanosyn Cycle Plan​

[td]Week[/td][td]Decanosyn (mg/week)[/td][td]Testosterone (mg/week)[/td][td]Support[/td][td]Optional Add-On[/td] [td]1–4[/td][td]300[/td][td]300 (Test E or Cyp)[/td][td]NAC, Omega-3s[/td][td]Anavar 40 mg/day[/td] [td]5–8[/td][td]400[/td][td]400[/td][td]Aromasin 12.5 mg EOD[/td][td]EQ or Primo[/td] [td]9–12[/td][td]400[/td][td]400[/td][td]Cabergoline (optional)[/td][td]Prepare for PCT[/td]

Post Cycle Therapy (Recommended)​

• Start: 14–21 days after last injection
• Clomid: 50/50/25/25 mg (Weeks 13–16)
• Nolvadex (optional): 40/40/20/20 mg

I'm intersted in Deca and stacking it with something else but don't want to waste my time or put my health at risk. Maximum mass, strength and joint support. I can cut towards spring.

wow you got 4 decades of training under your belt nice. i think the first thing is to get into conditioning. post up alog an lets see

 

[Ulter]

Hey, looking for wisdom. New to this forum and looking to learn. I'm 46 with years of off again and on again power lifting and strongman training around my career. I finally find myself in a place that I can concentrate on consistent training and want to put on some serious mass and strength. I'm 6'1" 285lbs with approximately 30% or less body fat. I've read a couple of threads on other sites before finding this great place of knowledge. I've seen things like this:

12-Week Decanosyn Cycle Plan​

[td]Week[/td][td]Decanosyn (mg/week)[/td][td]Testosterone (mg/week)[/td][td]Support[/td][td]Optional Add-On[/td] [td]1–4[/td][td]300[/td][td]300 (Test E or Cyp)[/td][td]NAC, Omega-3s[/td][td]Anavar 40 mg/day[/td] [td]5–8[/td][td]400[/td][td]400[/td][td]Aromasin 12.5 mg EOD[/td][td]EQ or Primo[/td] [td]9–12[/td][td]400[/td][td]400[/td][td]Cabergoline (optional)[/td][td]Prepare for PCT[/td]

Post Cycle Therapy (Recommended)​

• Start: 14–21 days after last injection
• Clomid: 50/50/25/25 mg (Weeks 13–16)
• Nolvadex (optional): 40/40/20/20 mg

I'm intersted in Deca and stacking it with something else but don't want to waste my time or put my health at risk. Maximum mass, strength and joint support. I can cut towards spring.

the deca is a good option. but NOT for you here man. i would toss this entire plan out the door and start from scratch. get a log up

 

[NrthrnBear]

welcome to the EVO family @NrthrnBear happy to have you here. We will help you.

Cycles
For your bodyfat I wouldn't recommend any cycles without us properly dialing in your diet and training first and really getting into GLP-1s

If you want real real help like truth, we need to know more about you, how? you need to start a pre cycle log basically a lifestyle log in a new thread, that talks about your diet training cardio sleep history and more and we can guide you into a full cycle from there, takes 15min to get it up and 5-10min to update, and without a log no one can really help you with honesty.

HOW-TO LOG?

Why is a Log Journal important?

• Doing a log will actually help you way more than just dropping random updates. When you lay it all out week by week you start to see patterns in your body that you won’t catch otherwise.
• Other guys here run logs all the time and there’s no privacy issue, nobody is asking for your name or anything personal, it is just training, diet, and how the compound feels.
• The feedback you get is also way better because people can follow along and spot things you might miss. It also helps the next guy who is thinking about running the same compound so you are giving back while you learn.
• Even if you think you might not stick with it, just starting the log makes it easier to come back and add quick notes. That way you get more out of what you are running instead of keeping it all in your head.

To really guide you we need more info from you:

• Please share your diet, training, cardio, sleep, supplements etc log with us in a NEW thread, full log journal so our guidance is based on facts you provide.
• It will take 15-20 minutes max.
• We have 100s of years of experience between us, so you need to post a LOG Journal with your stats (weight,height,age, years training, cycle history) diet, training, cardio, supplement, sleep details. If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.

Please post a Log Journal asap for us

Please click the anabolic forum
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/forums/anabolic-steroids-and-peds.2/
top RIGHT, you see: +POST THREAD
click that

in Title: write your cycle name, like> My _____ Cycle Log
___ = the name of your log
example: My Training Diet Lifestyle pre-cycle Log
in body: write your planned cycle or cycle you doing now, your diet, training and we will help you along on your cycle

here are examples of LOG Journals

https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-recomp-cut-log-2023-2024.96694/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/mobsters-training-diary.84438/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roidrage69-log.90127
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/domestic-supply-bulking-log-25homes-max.97609/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...obolan-equipoise-tbol-contest-prep-log.97138/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...osterone-deca-primobolan-hgh-cycle-log.97978/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...igas-hgh-and-bpc157-recovery-cycle-log.97594/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...enbolone-cycle-log-let-the-gains-begin.98399/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/pigsy-new-sponsor-ugl-contest-prep-log.96779/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-2023-2024-log.95956/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...stosterone-cardarine-cutting-cycle-log.97281/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roidragewife-female-training-log.95769/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/2024-lean-bulking-cycle-log.97986/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-trt-with-deca-durabolin-log.97962/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...bodybuilding-log-masters-55-competitor.97210/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/losiol-primobolan-testosterone-log.96581/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roughy-steroid-cycle-and-training.97944/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/fatboy999-2024-cycle-log.97936/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/testosterone-equipoise-trenbolone-cycle-log.96963/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-trt-log.98284/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/16-week-testosterone-cardarine-n2guard-cycle-log.98034/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/training-log-female.90425
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...tosterone-masteron-primobolan-blast-log.98328
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/25homes-revenge-transformation-log-2023.88570/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...n-season-sponsored-by-nordic-fusion-log.89817
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-contest-prep-log.87619/

P.S. are you listening to our podcast? if not, you should; this podcast is about steroids, sarms, peptides, and bodybuilding:
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https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/evolutionary-bodybuilding-radio/id1798623410
https://open.spotify.com/show/53q1RFTgG4h6TQHsJ4xY6Z

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I posted a log as requested, the 30% is a really rouch guestimate as I've never checked it with calipers. I could get some and get a more accurate idea. My body usually tightens up pretty quick with a month or two of solid training.

 

[LevButlerov]

I posted a log as requested, the 30% is a really rouch guestimate as I've never checked it with calipers. I could get some and get a more accurate idea. My body usually tightens up pretty quick with a month or two of solid training.

I'll check and follow up within 12 hours its in the mod que.

 

[ballin2504]

Hey, looking for wisdom. New to this forum and looking to learn. I'm 46 with years of off again and on again power lifting and strongman training around my career. I finally find myself in a place that I can concentrate on consistent training and want to put on some serious mass and strength. I'm 6'1" 285lbs with approximately 30% or less body fat. I've read a couple of threads on other sites before finding this great place of knowledge. I've seen things like this:

12-Week Decanosyn Cycle Plan​

[td]Week[/td][td]Decanosyn (mg/week)[/td][td]Testosterone (mg/week)[/td][td]Support[/td][td]Optional Add-On[/td] [td]1–4[/td][td]300[/td][td]300 (Test E or Cyp)[/td][td]NAC, Omega-3s[/td][td]Anavar 40 mg/day[/td] [td]5–8[/td][td]400[/td][td]400[/td][td]Aromasin 12.5 mg EOD[/td][td]EQ or Primo[/td] [td]9–12[/td][td]400[/td][td]400[/td][td]Cabergoline (optional)[/td][td]Prepare for PCT[/td]

Post Cycle Therapy (Recommended)​

• Start: 14–21 days after last injection
• Clomid: 50/50/25/25 mg (Weeks 13–16)
• Nolvadex (optional): 40/40/20/20 mg

I'm intersted in Deca and stacking it with something else but don't want to waste my time or put my health at risk. Maximum mass, strength and joint support. I can cut towards spring.

@NrthrnBear n2guard for sure deca with anadrol is a great mass builder. You’ll get extremely strong extremely quick so Becareful