Approved Log My Sustanon Cycle Log

[DCB82]

e2 crashing can have an effect and it will go back up about week 2 so around 14 days.

But your food is a real issue remember, if your dietary intake it not good it will affect energy levels.
what did you eat the whole day? @DCB82

I work on the road so not easy to prep.
Today for example
Breakfast: 3 egg omelette with potatos and a protein shake
Lunch: double steak bowl from chipotle just rice and meat.
After workout was 80g protein shake and 5 rice cakes
Dinner was another double steak from chipotle same as lunch.
Prob have another 30g shake before bed.

 

[Npcclassicphysique champ]

I work on the road so not easy to prep.
Today for example
Breakfast: 3 egg omelette with potatos and a protein shake
Lunch: double steak bowl from chipotle just rice and meat.
After workout was 80g protein shake and 5 rice cakes
Dinner was another double steak from chipotle same as lunch.
Prob have another 30g shake before bed.

your food is still clean bro @DCB82
you can add protein bars, you have them?

 

[DCB82]

your food is still clean bro @DCB82
you can add protein bars, you have them?

Yep occasionally throw those in. At home the diet isn’t much different except I will eat lean ground beef or sirloins and sweet potato. I’m not a chicken or fish fan, and seafood is too expensive haha.

 

[Npcclassicphysique champ]

Yep occasionally throw those in. At home the diet isn’t much different except I will eat lean ground beef or sirloins and sweet potato. I’m not a chicken or fish fan, and seafood is too expensive haha.

if you're at home, can you meal prep? that would make things easier bro @DCB82

 

[RoySimpson]

I am about 7 weeks into my second blast. My normal TRT dose is Test Cyp 200mg/week split into two doses(M&F). My first blast was Test E at 500mg/week split into two doses. Bloodwork all was normal with that for 16 weeks with no AI. My estrogen, prolactin, and PSA were all within normal ranges.
The current cycle is Sustanon 350, dosing three times per week for a total of 700mg per week. Initially coach had me taking Arimidex at 0.5mg on Mondays and Fridays for a total of 1mg each week. I started feeling really bad about two to three weeks into this with flu like symptoms, lethargy, chills, etc…. I was fairly certain it was crashed E2, so I cut the dose back to 0.25mg on Monday and Fridays.
Had bloods ran and Estrogen was <2.5 with a normal range of 8-35.

I have since cut the dose of Arimidex back to 0.25 per week for the last week and a half. Feeling better so I think Estrogen is coming back up. I’m just not sure what, if any Arimidex I need to run now. Especially since I was able to run 500mg test last blast with zero sides.

My current stats are 6’3” and 220lbs at 12% body fat per dexa scan.
Diet is around 3500 calories per day and workout is 2on/1off split and currently doing push,pull,arm, leg and doing one super heavy set per excercise. Have about 5 excercise per body part.

I will attach current pics, and see if you guys think I have any gyno or if everything looks good. I do occasionally have some tingling in my pecs from time to time but no puffy or itchy nipples.
Thanks!

@DCB82 looking solid bro!

 

[DCB82]

@DCB82 looking solid bro!

Thanks dude! I’m tryin to hang in there as an old man haha

 

[Eddie Haskell]

Thanks dude! I’m tryin to hang in there as an old man haha

any updates man?

 

[DCB82]

any updates man?

Not really. Just lowered the dose to 500mg/week split to M,W,F’s. Not currently using the AI.
Having some tenderness in the upper pec/side pec area and some minor tingling in nips…the nips could very well be from me messing with them constantly idk. Kinda wanting to start back the AI at maybe 0.25mg per week, but after crashing E2 I don’t know??

 

[Eddie Haskell]

Not really. Just lowered the dose to 500mg/week split to M,W,F’s. Not currently using the AI.
Having some tenderness in the upper pec/side pec area and some minor tingling in nips…the nips could very well be from me messing with them constantly idk. Kinda wanting to start back the AI at maybe 0.25mg per week, but after crashing E2 I don’t know??

how is your training diet going? update the training cardio please for our EVO family man @DCB82

but 500mgs testosterone you do need an Ai imo
you should start at least on week 2
and tenderness , you have tamoxifen?

 

[DCB82]

how is your training diet going? update the training cardio please for our EVO family man @DCB82

but 500mgs testosterone you do need an Ai imo
you should start at least on week 2
and tenderness , you have tamoxifen?

Diet is same as I posted couple days ago, it doesn’t really change day to day.
Cardio is 20mins 3-5 days a week. Usually 3.5mph on incline treadmill.
No tamoxifen. All I have is a-dex.

I may start 0.25mg once per week and see how that works. I was taking 0.5mg twice per week and completely crashed E2 according to bloodwork, so you can understand my reluctance to take the AI

 

[Eddie Haskell]

Diet is same as I posted couple days ago, it doesn’t really change day to day.
Cardio is 20mins 3-5 days a week. Usually 3.5mph on incline treadmill.
No tamoxifen. All I have is a-dex.

I may start 0.25mg once per week and see how that works. I was taking 0.5mg twice per week and completely crashed E2 according to bloodwork, so you can understand my reluctance to take the AI

I would rather have you use nolva if your e2 was crashed
We can let your aromatase rest but control the estrogen sides
@AE1079 please comment

 

[DCB82]

I would rather have you use nolva if your e2 was crashed
We can let your aromatase rest but control the estrogen sides
@AE1079 please comment

I’m honestly not even sure I’m having estrogen sides. I can’t tell if I’m actually having sides or just imagining them because I’m aware they could potentially happen haha.

 

[Eddie Haskell]

I’m honestly not even sure I’m having estrogen sides. I can’t tell if I’m actually having sides or just imagining them because I’m aware they could potentially happen haha.

Yes it’s the mythical gyno symptoms we all had those
Let’s wait, up your training game and we come back to it
Let’s boost volume a bit if you can @DCB82 and update the EVO family more

 

[AE1079]

I would rather have you use nolva if your e2 was crashed
We can let your aromatase rest but control the estrogen sides
@AE1079 please comment

I have got some pretty gnarly experiences with clients with high E2 and crashing E2 and how to modulate it. Read carefully

Nolvadex and its E2 symptom management works as that’s its design. Not ridding of E2, but stopping it agonising the EBeta Receptor and EAlpha Receptor. Aromatisation still occurs here, but doesn’t allow the E2 to go where it fits essentially. It’s like having a USB and the port. Essentiallly the USB has the E2 on it and port is the receptor. There will be no interaction between these two when taking Nolvadex
E1 (Estrone) will continue to cycle through its metabolism of converting into E2 - while E2 will metabolised by the body. So we have a constant run of E2 in the body circulating. Just not attaching to the above receptors which are responsible for mammary gland growth and excess mineral retention ect. It is essentially designed for women with breast cancer to maintain hormonal homeostasis and blocking receptor from being agonised.

Arimidex is a AI. So it will stop the CYP19A enzyme from converting excess androgens into E2 period. So it essentially skips the entire process above and just stops aromatisation at the source. Therefore less E2 circulation lowering blood serum. The problem with this is, that some people are extremely sensitive to these drugs and crash E2 very quickly causing an unwanted bias of side effects.

This is just a top line description.

We want to keep E2 within range in males. We can do this through AI or SERM integration. DHT Derivatives that present SERM and AI qualities through its metabolism can be used (Masteron Primo and even EQ) - this is drug intervention.

You can also jab your gear ED-EOD to lower E2 response to larger bolus of androgens to halt peaks and trophs which creates the issue more so then anything I find.

You can also clean up the diet and lose body fat and reduce total Enzyme levels through reduction of body fat.

You can keep the liver in check to help the metabolism of E2 as well.

You have options.

 

[AE1079]

Not really. Just lowered the dose to 500mg/week split to M,W,F’s. Not currently using the AI.
Having some tenderness in the upper pec/side pec area and some minor tingling in nips…the nips could very well be from me messing with them constantly idk. Kinda wanting to start back the AI at maybe 0.25mg per week, but after crashing E2 I don’t know??

Can guarantee if you start dosing ED injections you will find more stable blood serum and less peak E2. You could even lower your dose to 400 and do ED Injecting and can guarantee the same gains with less E2 activity with the use of anything I mentioned.

 

[DCB82]

Can guarantee if you start dosing ED injections you will find more stable blood serum and less peak E2. You could even lower your dose to 400 and do ED Injecting and can guarantee the same gains with less E2 activity with the use of anything I mentioned.

I may try that. I just lowered the dose Monday, and am doing Monday, Wednesday, Friday injections.
When I first began, I was doing Monday and Friday at 700mg/wk total. Down to 525mg/wk now to make the math easy. My vial is dosed at 350mg/mL

 

[Eddie Haskell]

Can guarantee if you start dosing ED injections you will find more stable blood serum and less peak E2. You could even lower your dose to 400 and do ED Injecting and can guarantee the same gains with less E2 activity with the use of anything I mentioned.

To guys who like injections, I agree with you.
Yes but the ED injections are high pip and painful. Very few guys do ED injections, and I don't recommend it to most users.
ED = every day for newer guys, just imagine injecting daily, super pip @AE1079

 

[AE1079]

I may try that. I just lowered the dose Monday, and am doing Monday, Wednesday, Friday injections.
When I first began, I was doing Monday and Friday at 700mg/wk total. Down to 525mg/wk now to make the math easy. My vial is dosed at 350mg/mL

Give it a go man
Less volume of injections
Yes you have to prick yourself more often but I think the benefits out that outweighs fewer injections during the week for sure

 

[Eddie Haskell]

I may try that. I just lowered the dose Monday, and am doing Monday, Wednesday, Friday injections.
When I first began, I was doing Monday and Friday at 700mg/wk total. Down to 525mg/wk now to make the math easy. My vial is dosed at 350mg/mL

3 pins/week is fine man ED pins will be real high pain @DCB82

 

[DCB82]

Today was arm day. Here is my weekly arm routine.
Dumbell Hammer Curl
Get WARM 2-3 sets
1 feel set for 6
1 set ALL OUT


Rope Push Down
2 build up sets 15
1 feel set 8
1 set (15 goal) ALL OUT
(15 reps)

Curl Machine (1 arm at a time)
1 build up set of 10 (increase weight each set)
1 HEAVY ALL OUT set


Hammer Strength Push Down
1 build up set of 10 (increase weight each set)
1 HEAVY ALL OUT set

1 Arm Dumbell Curl
1 HEAVY ALL OUT set


Dumbell Behind the Head Extension
1 ALL OUT set HEAVY (GOAL 20)