Stack design

[Lawyerguy1]

Assume the following:

-52 yrs old
-Weight 215-220 depending on food/hydration
-Body fat about 12 percent
-On TRT last several years anyway
-SHGB naturally low at all times anyway,
But... estrogen always within normal ranges regardless

16 week cycle wanted. Goal is clean, lean gain.

Dosages to be determined, but....

Base sustanon 250-500mg per week, split
Anavar
T-bol
Provirion

Stack all those above with either primo or mast.

Would you choose primo or mast? In what dosage?

As an aside, I could drop t-bol and use winstrol but I’d like to avoid kidney harshness. I’ve used it in the past and liked it but I’m not convinced I’ll go back to it. If I did, it would be via a compounded pill that has 30mg anavar and 20mg winstrol.

If you were to design a 16 week cycle using the compounds listed above, what general dosages would you use consider considering my goals? Because of TRT I'm not concerned about PCT.

Thanks.

 

[LevButlerov]

Assume the following:

-52 yrs old
-Weight 215-220 depending on food/hydration
-Body fat about 12 percent
-On TRT last several years anyway
-SHGB naturally low at all times anyway,
But... estrogen always within normal ranges regardless

16 week cycle wanted. Goal is clean, lean gain.

Dosages to be determined, but....

Base sustanon 250-500mg per week, split
Anavar
T-bol
Provirion

Stack all those above with either primo or mast.

Would you choose primo or mast? In what dosage?

As an aside, I could drop t-bol and use winstrol but I’d like to avoid kidney harshness. I’ve used it in the past and liked it but I’m not convinced I’ll go back to it. If I did, it would be via a compounded pill that has 30mg anavar and 20mg winstrol.

If you were to design a 16 week cycle using the compounds listed above, what general dosages would you use consider considering my goals? Because of TRT I'm not concerned about PCT.

Thanks.

You're here for years @Lawyerguy1 and I told you before I hate guessing on cycles.

if you want generic answer, yes go use sustanon with anavar nice cycle with some eq but really we dont know much about you and a log would be appropriate for your TRT first.

@BeMe @HarleyGuy @s.gentz
@Allupfromhere @Pigsy @Dreamer @Freki @R.AP
@waggat @Yuri @rizzlekdizzle @Grumpy
@SPOONMAN366 @coolguy77711

 

[Pigsy]

A lot mo

You're here for years @Lawyerguy1 and I told you before I hate guessing on cycles.

if you want generic answer, yes go use sustanon with anavar nice cycle with some eq but really we dont know much about you and a log would be appropriate for your TRT first.

@BeMe @HarleyGuy @s.gentz
@Allupfromhere @Pigsy @Dreamer @Freki @R.AP
@waggat @Yuri @rizzlekdizzle @Grumpy
@SPOONMAN366 @coolguy77711

A lot more information is required here, to help him with cycle. It's hard to help when you go in blind

 

[R.AP]

Assume the following:

-52 yrs old
-Weight 215-220 depending on food/hydration
-Body fat about 12 percent
-On TRT last several years anyway
-SHGB naturally low at all times anyway,
But... estrogen always within normal ranges regardless

16 week cycle wanted. Goal is clean, lean gain.

Dosages to be determined, but....

Base sustanon 250-500mg per week, split
Anavar
T-bol
Provirion

Stack all those above with either primo or mast.

Would you choose primo or mast? In what dosage?

As an aside, I could drop t-bol and use winstrol but I’d like to avoid kidney harshness. I’ve used it in the past and liked it but I’m not convinced I’ll go back to it. If I did, it would be via a compounded pill that has 30mg anavar and 20mg winstrol.

If you were to design a 16 week cycle using the compounds listed above, what general dosages would you use consider considering my goals? Because of TRT I'm not concerned about PCT.

Thanks.

Hey brother, if your plan is to run EQ do NOT also run Primo. They both control e2 through the same mechanism and EQ on its own can crush your e2 easily enough. You may run mast if you'd like some additional anabolism, but I don't think you'd need it either.

I'd say drop the VAR and TBOL (and look after your lipids and liver), and stick to the Sust (or Test), EQ and Proviron. Nail your nutrition and training and you'll see just as sustainable gains, plus you will likely be able to stay on much longer.

 

[rizzlekdizzle]

for a longer cycle test and EQ would work nicely

 

[Coolguy]

I'm a big fan of mast or primo.
Current mast is easy to obtain and little bit more affordable. Ratios are always hard as it's dependent on the person individually. I'm running almost 1:2 test to mast. I feel great no issues but doesn't mean it would work for yourself.
Honestly an easy cycle would be test and proviron at 250mg a week you may not even need to worry about e2 sides.

 

[Dreamer]

How about some NPP? Another great compound for packing on size

 

[rizzlekdizzle]

How about some NPP? Another great compound for packing on size

looking forward to trying NPP - I foresee a Test/Primo(have a stash)/NPP cycle would be pretty nice

 

[Dreamer]

looking forward to trying NPP - I foresee a Test/Primo(have a stash)/NPP cycle would be pretty nice

My first log here was 400 test 600 primo 300 npp - went amazing, I will run it again one day

 

[rizzlekdizzle]

My first log here was 400 test 600 primo 300 npp - went amazing, I will run it again one day

yeah I would have enough primo for 300/400 a week for 12 weeks. Pretty sure I saw @Raptor Labs has NPP 200. but otherwise Test and NPP numbers would be similar - i seem to respond more to lean bulks and recomp so i thought Primo would be a good one

 

[Dreamer]

yeah I would have enough primo for 300/400 a week for 12 weeks. Pretty sure I saw @Raptor Labs has NPP 200. but otherwise Test and NPP numbers would be similar - i seem to respond more to lean bulks and recomp so i thought Primo would be a good one

I really liked it man, it felt super clean too, barely felt on, just got bigger and stronger - I wasnt very lean then so missed alot of the primo benefits, but next time its gonna be a banger.

- if there is ever a next time

 

[rizzlekdizzle]

I really liked it man, it felt super clean too, barely felt on, just got bigger and stronger - I wasnt very lean then so missed alot of the primo benefits, but next time its gonna be a banger.

- if there is ever a next time

fuck i can't imagine you not being lean

 

[Mobster]

Mast always

 

[Coolguy]

Mast always

I've actually been loving mast being on it

 

[stevesmi]

Assume the following:

-52 yrs old
-Weight 215-220 depending on food/hydration
-Body fat about 12 percent
-On TRT last several years anyway
-SHGB naturally low at all times anyway,
But... estrogen always within normal ranges regardless

16 week cycle wanted. Goal is clean, lean gain.

Dosages to be determined, but....

Base sustanon 250-500mg per week, split
Anavar
T-bol
Provirion

Stack all those above with either primo or mast.

Would you choose primo or mast? In what dosage?

As an aside, I could drop t-bol and use winstrol but I’d like to avoid kidney harshness. I’ve used it in the past and liked it but I’m not convinced I’ll go back to it. If I did, it would be via a compounded pill that has 30mg anavar and 20mg winstrol.

If you were to design a 16 week cycle using the compounds listed above, what general dosages would you use consider considering my goals? Because of TRT I'm not concerned about PCT.

Thanks.

even though you are on trt 16 weeks is a long one. especially if you are using sustanon which will be in your system at a higher dosage after last injection. i recommend 12 week blasts

 

[2Thick]

Assume the following:

-52 yrs old
-Weight 215-220 depending on food/hydration
-Body fat about 12 percent
-On TRT last several years anyway
-SHGB naturally low at all times anyway,
But... estrogen always within normal ranges regardless

16 week cycle wanted. Goal is clean, lean gain.

Dosages to be determined, but....

Base sustanon 250-500mg per week, split
Anavar
T-bol
Provirion

Stack all those above with either primo or mast.

Would you choose primo or mast? In what dosage?

As an aside, I could drop t-bol and use winstrol but I’d like to avoid kidney harshness. I’ve used it in the past and liked it but I’m not convinced I’ll go back to it. If I did, it would be via a compounded pill that has 30mg anavar and 20mg winstrol.

If you were to design a 16 week cycle using the compounds listed above, what general dosages would you use consider considering my goals? Because of TRT I'm not concerned about PCT.

Thanks.

I would choose Primo over Mast.... mast is more of a cosmetic steroid. I would do the Primo 400-500 mg/week.

 

[Ulter]

Assume the following:

-52 yrs old
-Weight 215-220 depending on food/hydration
-Body fat about 12 percent
-On TRT last several years anyway
-SHGB naturally low at all times anyway,
But... estrogen always within normal ranges regardless

16 week cycle wanted. Goal is clean, lean gain.

Dosages to be determined, but....

Base sustanon 250-500mg per week, split
Anavar
T-bol
Provirion

Stack all those above with either primo or mast.

Would you choose primo or mast? In what dosage?

As an aside, I could drop t-bol and use winstrol but I’d like to avoid kidney harshness. I’ve used it in the past and liked it but I’m not convinced I’ll go back to it. If I did, it would be via a compounded pill that has 30mg anavar and 20mg winstrol.

If you were to design a 16 week cycle using the compounds listed above, what general dosages would you use consider considering my goals? Because of TRT I'm not concerned about PCT.

Thanks.

I would pick between the Anavar, the tbol, and the Proviron. You don't want to use all three together, just pick one of those. Maybe the Anavar would be a good option.

 

[ceo]

Assume the following:

-52 yrs old
-Weight 215-220 depending on food/hydration
-Body fat about 12 percent
-On TRT last several years anyway
-SHGB naturally low at all times anyway,
But... estrogen always within normal ranges regardless

16 week cycle wanted. Goal is clean, lean gain.

Dosages to be determined, but....

Base sustanon 250-500mg per week, split
Anavar
T-bol
Provirion

Stack all those above with either primo or mast.

Would you choose primo or mast? In what dosage?

As an aside, I could drop t-bol and use winstrol but I’d like to avoid kidney harshness. I’ve used it in the past and liked it but I’m not convinced I’ll go back to it. If I did, it would be via a compounded pill that has 30mg anavar and 20mg winstrol.

If you were to design a 16 week cycle using the compounds listed above, what general dosages would you use consider considering my goals? Because of TRT I'm not concerned about PCT.

Thanks.

Bros, you gonna run all three orals at the same time? I wouldn't do that. Maybe pick Anavar or T-Bol with the Provirion, but not all three.

 

[Lawyerguy1]

Bros, you gonna run all three orals at the same time? I wouldn't do that. Maybe pick Anavar or T-Bol with the Provirion, but not all three.

Yeah I was thinking of that. I've run anavar and t-bol together and also anavar and winstrol together. I liked both combinations but the winstrol has the most possibility of negative effect. With provirion not being 17-aa based and therefore not heptoxic, and also not converting to estrogen, I think it could be combined with anavar or t-bol and maybe with both of them together (but I'm not tied to doing that). I think if provirion was combined with one of them or both of them the real thing to pay attention to is cholesterol stuff and a lot of that can be mitigated with diet.

 

[ceo]

Yeah I was thinking of that. I've run anavar and t-bol together and also anavar and winstrol together. I liked both combinations but the winstrol has the most possibility of negative effect. With provirion not being 17-aa based and therefore not heptoxic, and also not converting to estrogen, I think it could be combined with anavar or t-bol and maybe with both of them together (but I'm not tied to doing that). I think if provirion was combined with one of them or both of them the real thing to pay attention to is cholesterol stuff and a lot of that can be mitigated with diet.

Bros, Provirion gonna make whole cycle run better.

 

[ballin2504]

I like mast over primo here. I like mi mast high at around 609 mgs a week

 

[ROIDDERS]

Would love to you to put up a log. You've been promising us for a while you would.

 

[Noah Wixx]

Yourn

Assume the following:

-52 yrs old
-Weight 215-220 depending on food/hydration
-Body fat about 12 percent
-On TRT last several years anyway
-SHGB naturally low at all times anyway,
But... estrogen always within normal ranges regardless

16 week cycle wanted. Goal is clean, lean gain.

Dosages to be determined, but....

Base sustanon 250-500mg per week, split
Anavar
T-bol
Provirion

Stack all those above with either primo or mast.

Would you choose primo or mast? In what dosage?

As an aside, I could drop t-bol and use winstrol but I’d like to avoid kidney harshness. I’ve used it in the past and liked it but I’m not convinced I’ll go back to it. If I did, it would be via a compounded pill that has 30mg anavar and 20mg winstrol.

If you were to design a 16 week cycle using the compounds listed above, what general dosages would you use consider considering my goals? Because of TRT I'm not concerned about PCT.

Thanks.

Could crush your estrogen just be careful with dose crushed estrogen is hell