OFFICIAL Suspension of BigBoyLabs (BBL)

[Eddie Haskell]

BigBoyLabs (BBL) has been suspended!

Unfortunately, a VIP supplier in the EVO family, BigBoyLabs (BBL), has gone rogue and left many EVO members without any product. We can have an academic debate on whether it was an exit scam or not, it wouldn't change the fact that many EVO family members lost money and didn't get their products.

There is not much more to say, please read this thread and it will explain the back and forth dialogue about BBL: (starting page 7)
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/bbl-2025-price-list-updates.102877/post-1713641

example:
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/bbl-labs.103854

In addition, even before this, a member @LeakingCoffee reported quality issues with BBL HGH:
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/i-suspect-bigboylabs-hgh-is-fake.103576/
While we are aware the member is not liked, he was essentially exposing BBL before the issue became apparent to us.

 

[Creamofsumyoungguy]

I hope that shipper sorts guys out who are waiting for orders. Shitty situation

 

[TeeGee]

This thread should have that shipper contact

And members should definitely update if I'm fact their orders arrive or not

 

[hypogaeum]

This thread should have that shipper contact

Link to post, if needed: https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/bbl-2025-price-list-updates.102877/post-1715396

 

[Snayaz]

@Eddie Haskell what about star labs and it being rhino?

 

[Eddie Haskell]

@Eddie Haskell what about star labs and it being rhino?

Please start a new thread if you have thoughts to share. Don’t post off topic here. @Snayaz

 

[juddy]

I find myself rather disappointed. What steps could be undertaken to avert such situations? I am curious about how Evo is establishing credibility?

Not being a dic, just asking the question.

 

[Eddie Haskell]

I find myself rather disappointed. What steps could be undertaken to avert such situations? I am curious about how Evo is establishing credibility?

Not being a dic, just asking the question.

We can’t stop vendors with unsavory characters from doing bad things. It’s the nature of the situation.
There is always an element of risk in any situation like this.

 

[lordfarquaad42]

We can’t stop vendors with unsavory characters from doing bad things. It’s the nature of the situation.
There is always an element of risk in any situation like this.

It does seem like a good post though, I havent been present for the duration of their operations, but numerous posted have mentioned these guys having issues in the past. Shipping delays, bad test batches and apparently he's ended up sorting it out in the end. But why was a vendor with such inconsistencies approved as a VIP seller

 

[Eddie Haskell]

It does seem like a good post though, I havent been present for the duration of their operations, but numerous posted have mentioned these guys having issues in the past. Shipping delays, bad test batches and apparently he's ended up sorting it out in the end. But why was a vendor with such inconsistencies approved as a VIP seller

You already know the answer. He had community support.
And you should start a log and become VIP before you push suggestions here.
Further instigating will lead to a 72 hour time out.

 

[6foothasbulla]

Ever since the march test E batch incident I moved to a different vendor knowing this may happen in the future. Best of luck to all who didn't get their products

 

[Mobster]

I find myself rather disappointed. What steps could be undertaken to avert such situations? I am curious about how Evo is establishing credibility?

Not being a dic, just asking the question.

What would you suggest as a useful protocol?

 

[Freki]

I find myself rather disappointed. What steps could be undertaken to avert such situations? I am curious about how Evo is establishing credibility?

Not being a dic, just asking the question.

More credible then where?

A problem has arisen and its been dealt with. How can you be disappointed with that. Even if it wasn't black market always a risk in every purchase you ever make.

 

[MayMesh]

I mean the only reason such issues were brought up was due to loggers and I do believe that is the only effective way. Random third party test results like what @Ratatata did helps ensure the quality of the products. Maybe in the future if a random logger does random tests on your products they should be rewarded. My two cents.

 

[juddy]

What would you suggest as a useful protocol?

Thanks Mobster,

I have a few ideas, but have to hash it out, and ideally not publicly.

Will bounce ideas around and get back to you. Thanks for understanding I wasn't having a go at Evo. Also, I'm missing your voice mate, when are we going to see some more podcasts?

 

[juddy]

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I mean the only reason such issues were brought up was due to loggers and I do believe that is the only effective way. Random third party test results like what @Ratatata did helps ensure the quality of the products. Maybe in the future if a random logger does random tests on your products they should be rewarded. My two cents.

Good feedback! I agree, Loggers are important. But we can be lied to by a vendor, so just saying we can be kept in the dark too.

 

[coolguy77711]

I mean the only reason such issues were brought up was due to loggers and I do believe that is the only effective way. Random third party test results like what @Ratatata did helps ensure the quality of the products. Maybe in the future if a random logger does random tests on your products they should be rewarded. My two cents.

I was logging for him and I think I was the first to bring up the issue with the march batch.
Logging doesn't mean we follow him blindly. He did reticify the march batch but the shipping issues were interesting.
This isn't a shipping issue I don't think I believe he got in over his head with the gh batch he got and maybe couldn't recover? Or maybe he got picked up who knows. It's all speculation at this point.

 

[Ratatata]

Thanks Mobster,

I have a few ideas, but have to hash it out, and ideally not publicly.

Will bounce ideas around and get back to you. Thanks for understanding I wasn't having a go at Evo. Also, I'm missing your voice mate, when are we going to see some more podcasts?

Not being negative, in this industry where we all involve this scam is not the first and will not be the last, until and unless management has complete details of the vendor. And i think no vendor will handout there identity.

 

[juddy]

Not being negative, in this industry where we all involve this scam is not the first and will not be the last, until and unless management has complete details of the vendor. And i think no vendor will handout there identity.

Yeah, i know. And get that.

I think I worded my post poorly. Disappointed it happend, not with Evo, or implying evo let it happen. Dissapointed it was a VIP too.

 

[Ratatata]

I mean the only reason such issues were brought up was due to loggers and I do believe that is the only effective way. Random third party test results like what @Ratatata did helps ensure the quality of the products. Maybe in the future if a random logger does random tests on your products they should be rewarded. My two cents.

I was reimbursed by all the vendors for the product i tested. I would encourage members to test the product if possible. that keeps some kind of accountability, thanks to @TeeGee and @B3rnie who made jano testing process so easy.
Few more testing around june