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Jamgoth

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I started taking gym seriously around August 2022. Since then I've gone from 120 lbs to 145 lbs. I'm 5'8 and 29 years old. I currently estimate I'm at about 15% body fat which is up from when I started but I also have more muscle. I know I'm probably too early in my fitness journey to start using steroids but honestly I don't care. I started a 500mg test cycle over the summer but I got the gear from Steroid Warehouse which many of you say probaby gave me bunk gear. I made progress during this time but it was natty level progress. I don't know if this is because the steroids were bunk or because my diet and workout weren't consistent. Also I have insomnia which I heard kills gains but I'm getting that medicated. But either way I ordered test from Napsgear so hopefully this lets me put on muscle. I'm doing a 600mg 20 week cycle

Workout plan: I do a modified push pull leg routine. How I do it is I do 3x8 with 4th set to failure, if I can do that I then go up to 3x9 (with fourth set to failure), if I can't I stay where I am. I continue until I'm at 3x12 +4th to failure. Once I can do that I go back to 3x8 with heavier weight.

Day A: Dumbell bench press, dumbell rows, incline dumbell bench press, pullups, sit ups, leg raises
Day B: Dumbell bicep curl, dumbell lateral raises, dumbell overhead press, dumbell forearm curl, barbell shrugs, side planks
Day C: dumbell bulgarian split squat, barbell squat, barbell calve raise, neck raise

Do each day twice a week.

Diet.

Serious Mass Weight gain supplement, 1.5 cup grilled chicken, 1 slice dried mango 1 large carrot, Half quart liquid egg whites 1 cup whole milk calorie shake protein shake pineapple juice granola bar, 1 cup greek yogurt turkey and chedder sandwich

total 3.4k calories, 250 g protein, 446 g carbs 65 grams fat


One year natty progress before roids


One question: I know roids help you recover muscle faster. Could I do a full body workout every day for extra gains or should I stick to my natty routine that I have set up?
 

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I think your training split needs some work. List your daily reps/weights. Also list out your meals. Seems like alot of the food is mass gainer?
Drugs are only a small part of the equation. You gotta get training, diet and recovery on point.
Start a log.
 
I think your training split needs some work. List your daily reps/weights. Also list out your meals. Seems like alot of the food is mass gainer?
Drugs are only a small part of the equation. You gotta get training, diet and recovery on point.
Start a log.
I thought this was me starting a log.

Yeah I have a lot of liquid calories because that's easier for me to chug down as gaining weight is difficult for me

What's wrong with the split? I do somewhere between 3x8-3x12 plus 4th set to failure for each exercise.

(add fourth set to failure for every exercise
Bench press 3x9 65 lbs per hand
Back row 3x12 65 lbs per hand
Pullup 3x9
Incline bench 3x12 50 lbs per hand
Sit up 3x12 with 30 lbs dumbell
leg raises one set till failure
Bicep curl 3x9 27.5 lbs
lateral raises 3x8 27.5 lbs
tricep overhead extension 3x10 30 lbs
military press 3x9 40 lbs
forarm curl 3x8 40
neck raise 3x12 30 lbs
side planks 3 sets 1 minute per side
bulgarian split squat 3x11 40 lbs
squat 3x10 (barbell, 120 lbs total)
calf raises 3x12 barbell 120bs
shrugs 3x12 120 lbs barbell

as for my meals thats what I plan to eat in a day. I don't really designate breakfast lunch or dinner, just, as long as I get each of those items in me im good
 
What's wrong with the split? I do somewhere between 3x8-3x12 plus 4th set to failure for each exercise.
I don't like the exercise structure. You def need more sets. How many days per week do you train? Are you doing a,b,c,rest,a,b,c,rest?
This is what my current split looked like until this week. PPLPPRR. 5day split with rest on weekends.

Push1
Arsenal incline press-90x15wu/180x12/230x12/250x6/BO
Incline DB fly-45x15x4sets
Prime seated cable press-85x15/90x15/95x15/100x12/70x5x5 stretch pause
Cross cable tricep extension-30x15x4sets
Arsenal tricep dip-135x15x3sets
GS DB side lateral/bent side lateral/front raise 25x10eachx4sets
Pull1
Cable pullovers 130x15/140x15/150x15
Shoulder width lat pull 130x15/140x15/150x15
Close grip lat pull 130x15/140x15/150x15
Cable curls 60x15/70x15/80x15/90x15 plus 1 drop
Alternating DB curls 20x15/25x15/30x15
SS preacher single arm DB curls/reverse EZbar curl 25x15x4/40x15x4
Legs
Arsenal Hack Squat 90x15/140x12/180x12/230x10
Arsenal leg press 540x15/630x15/720x12
Abductor/adductor 130x15x4stes / 150x15/170x15/190x15/190x15
Lying leg curls 95x15/110x15/125x15/125x15
Standing calves 300x15x8sets
Leg extensions 115x15/130x15/145x15 plus 1 drop to failure
Push2
Converging chest press 130x15x4sets
Arsenal flat bench 180x12/230x12/270x6 plus BO-shoulder started to hurt on the outer delt
Arsenal Peck deck 170x15/180x15/190x15/100x22-shouldeer didn't like this
Rope tricep extension 70x15/80x15/90x15/100x15
Single arm reverse grip tricep extension 30x15x4sets
Single arm overhead tricep extension 20x15x3
Pull2
Face pulls 100x15x4
Arsenal chest supported row 70x15x2sets/50x15x2sets
Reverse peck deck 130x15x4sets
LF seated row 90x15x4sets
Cable hammer curls 30x15x4sets
EZ bar curls 40x15/50x15/60x15x2sets
cable drag curls 30x15x3sets
 
I don't like the exercise structure. You def need more sets. How many days per week do you train? Are you doing a,b,c,rest,a,b,c,rest?
This is what my current split looked like until this week. PPLPPRR. 5day split with rest on weekends.

Push1
Arsenal incline press-90x15wu/180x12/230x12/250x6/BO
Incline DB fly-45x15x4sets
Prime seated cable press-85x15/90x15/95x15/100x12/70x5x5 stretch pause
Cross cable tricep extension-30x15x4sets
Arsenal tricep dip-135x15x3sets
GS DB side lateral/bent side lateral/front raise 25x10eachx4sets
Pull1
Cable pullovers 130x15/140x15/150x15
Shoulder width lat pull 130x15/140x15/150x15
Close grip lat pull 130x15/140x15/150x15
Cable curls 60x15/70x15/80x15/90x15 plus 1 drop
Alternating DB curls 20x15/25x15/30x15
SS preacher single arm DB curls/reverse EZbar curl 25x15x4/40x15x4
Legs
Arsenal Hack Squat 90x15/140x12/180x12/230x10
Arsenal leg press 540x15/630x15/720x12
Abductor/adductor 130x15x4stes / 150x15/170x15/190x15/190x15
Lying leg curls 95x15/110x15/125x15/125x15
Standing calves 300x15x8sets
Leg extensions 115x15/130x15/145x15 plus 1 drop to failure
Push2
Converging chest press 130x15x4sets
Arsenal flat bench 180x12/230x12/270x6 plus BO-shoulder started to hurt on the outer delt
Arsenal Peck deck 170x15/180x15/190x15/100x22-shouldeer didn't like this
Rope tricep extension 70x15/80x15/90x15/100x15
Single arm reverse grip tricep extension 30x15x4sets
Single arm overhead tricep extension 20x15x3
Pull2
Face pulls 100x15x4
Arsenal chest supported row 70x15x2sets/50x15x2sets
Reverse peck deck 130x15x4sets
LF seated row 90x15x4sets
Cable hammer curls 30x15x4sets
EZ bar curls 40x15/50x15/60x15x2sets
cable drag curls 30x15x3sets
I do ABCABCR. So 6 days a week one day rest.
 
I do ABCABCR. So 6 days a week one day rest.
You might wanna think about a 5 day split but more sets/intensity on those days.
The WO's above take about an hour with a partner.
 
I started taking gym seriously around August 2022. Since then I've gone from 120 lbs to 145 lbs. I'm 5'8 and 29 years old. I currently estimate I'm at about 15% body fat which is up from when I started but I also have more muscle. I know I'm probably too early in my fitness journey to start using steroids but honestly I don't care. I started a 500mg test cycle over the summer but I got the gear from Steroid Warehouse which many of you say probaby gave me bunk gear. I made progress during this time but it was natty level progress. I don't know if this is because the steroids were bunk or because my diet and workout weren't consistent. Also I have insomnia which I heard kills gains but I'm getting that medicated. But either way I ordered test from Napsgear so hopefully this lets me put on muscle. I'm doing a 600mg 20 week cycle

Workout plan: I do a modified push pull leg routine. How I do it is I do 3x8 with 4th set to failure, if I can do that I then go up to 3x9 (with fourth set to failure), if I can't I stay where I am. I continue until I'm at 3x12 +4th to failure. Once I can do that I go back to 3x8 with heavier weight.

Day A: Dumbell bench press, dumbell rows, incline dumbell bench press, pullups, sit ups, leg raises
Day B: Dumbell bicep curl, dumbell lateral raises, dumbell overhead press, dumbell forearm curl, barbell shrugs, side planks
Day C: dumbell bulgarian split squat, barbell squat, barbell calve raise, neck raise

Do each day twice a week.

Diet.

Serious Mass Weight gain supplement, 1.5 cup grilled chicken, 1 slice dried mango 1 large carrot, Half quart liquid egg whites 1 cup whole milk calorie shake protein shake pineapple juice granola bar, 1 cup greek yogurt turkey and chedder sandwich

total 3.4k calories, 250 g protein, 446 g carbs 65 grams fat


One year natty progress before roids


One question: I know roids help you recover muscle faster. Could I do a full body workout every day for extra gains or should I stick to my natty routine that I have set up?
I thought this was me starting a log.

Yeah I have a lot of liquid calories because that's easier for me to chug down as gaining weight is difficult for me

What's wrong with the split? I do somewhere between 3x8-3x12 plus 4th set to failure for each exercise.

(add fourth set to failure for every exercise
Bench press 3x9 65 lbs per hand
Back row 3x12 65 lbs per hand
Pullup 3x9
Incline bench 3x12 50 lbs per hand
Sit up 3x12 with 30 lbs dumbell
leg raises one set till failure
Bicep curl 3x9 27.5 lbs
lateral raises 3x8 27.5 lbs
tricep overhead extension 3x10 30 lbs
military press 3x9 40 lbs
forarm curl 3x8 40
neck raise 3x12 30 lbs
side planks 3 sets 1 minute per side
bulgarian split squat 3x11 40 lbs
squat 3x10 (barbell, 120 lbs total)
calf raises 3x12 barbell 120bs
shrugs 3x12 120 lbs barbell

as for my meals thats what I plan to eat in a day. I don't really designate breakfast lunch or dinner, just, as long as I get each of those items in me im good
@Jamgoth great log start

on the training, you need more sets and reps
on the diet, we need more details when you eat and how much, seems high protein lack
If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.

steroids can help you recover but right now we can talk more natural lets make changes, before you inject testosterone lets at least see you keep a diet training log 30 days


how about pics of your meals
pics of your supplements
pics of your training a bit

and hows your sleep?
 
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listen to the guys on the training

full body workouts daily at low intensity is good for grandma and high intensity is only good for getting injured. it makes no sense for weight lifters on gear
certain muscle groups need to be training once or twice a week MAX. other muscles like abs for example can be trained daily. you can be like me and just finish each workout with a few sets of abs but I would set yourself up on a split routine

this is why also a lot of us encourage you not to use steroids until you have your diet and training on point. you don't want to learn how your body reacts to things while wasting Cycles
nevertheless go ahead and continue this log and use the steroids and let's get you to your potential
 
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If you have taken the path with gear it's more about the volume aspect and the pump, you need to find a split that can combine both of those aspects within reason. You dont need to fo super high in volume, you need to find ways to constantly create new stimulus and for growth, if you did 3 sets of 20 on curls try for 1 more set next week or increase the weight by 5lbs and do the same 3 sets of 20, many different ways you can force adaptation to grow.
 
toss the weight-gain supplement
it is not going to help you it's going to hurt you
do you see any of the guys on here who are pro level who down weight gain supplements no they're eating real food
 
until you nail down your diet and your training you're always going to struggle
can you post pictures of your training and maybe a video and let's see
 
I suggest first getting up your full diet for the day on here
it sounds like you're depending on a bunch of blended food all the time and supplements and that's just not going to fly
 
look into the Portuguese diet
and look at some of the other logs on here and what guys are doing when it comes to food
 
You.m can gain a lot more muscle naturally before starting steroids. A sarms stack from umbrella labs would work well for you
 
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