Approved Log First Log - Test E, Primo, Anavar, Winstrol and Clen - 12 week cutting cycle

[CypherOCE]

Made a bunch of meatball subs for dinner and snacks throughout the week ahead

Cals for both: 1059cal

72.5p 34f 107c

Will tone the carbs back going forward didn't realise it packed so much

 

[Noah Wixx]

Made a bunch of meatball subs for dinner and snacks throughout the week ahead

Cals for both: 1059cal

72.5p 34f 107c

Will tone the carbs back going forward didn't realise it packed so much

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in general has a ton of carbs im glad your tracking so you can see what works and doesn't work for you, just be careful with having to much bread lol.

 

[Eddie Haskell]

Made a bunch of meatball subs for dinner and snacks throughout the week ahead

Cals for both: 1059cal

72.5p 34f 107c

Will tone the carbs back going forward didn't realise it packed so much

View attachment 56125

@CypherOCE very oldschool meatball subs if you growing thats good but for cutting you need to start going down in bread intake especially at night

 

[stevesmi]

i boil meatballs, i mix them with some rice, pepper, salt and cinnamon, turns out good!

 

[CypherOCE]

in general has a ton of carbs im glad your tracking so you can see what works and doesn't work for you, just be careful with having to much bread lol.

Great refeed option but too heavy on the carbs

Chest is sore AF this morning so ill go and punish my back in a few hours actually I'm weirdly looking forward to it.

The struggle produces a feel good feeling

@CypherOCE very oldschool meatball subs if you growing thats good but for cutting you need to start going down in bread intake especially at night

definitely cutting it out

Might save that kind of uptake for before a big leg or back day in the future

 

[Eddie Haskell]

Great refeed option but too heavy on the carbs

Chest is sore AF this morning so ill go and punish my back in a few hours actually I'm weirdly looking forward to it.

The struggle produces a feel good feeling

definitely cutting it out

Might save that kind of uptake for before a big leg or back day in the future

any kind of high carbs high GI meals you should stay away during cuts @CypherOCE stick to yams/sweet potatoes/oatmeal/brown rice

 

[CypherOCE]

Lat pull downs

1 warm up up 30kg.
3 working sets @ 70kg
10 reps

Bent over rows (underhand grip)
3 sets @ 37.5kg x 10 reps

Seated rows
3 sets (more emphasis on the pause and a 3-5 second negative for more time under tension)

3 x 55kg x 10 reps
Notes: lower back pump after doing nothing is crazy

Machine Pullovers
3 sets @ 57kg x 10 reps

Lower back extensions
3 sets with 15kg weight

Biceps:

Bicep curls
4 sets

1. 10 x 15kg
2. 10 x 15kg
3. 10 x 10kg
4. 10 10kg

Hammer curls
3 sets @ 10kg

Cable straight bar curls
3 sets @ 32kg x 10 reps

 

[Noah Wixx]

Great refeed option but too heavy on the carbs

Chest is sore AF this morning so ill go and punish my back in a few hours actually I'm weirdly looking forward to it.

The struggle produces a feel good feeling

definitely cutting it out

Might save that kind of uptake for before a big leg or back day in the future

See i told you brother you don't need a crazy amount of volume for muscle growth, you just need the right kind of stimulus and make every set and rep count, I am happy that you enjoy the workout that is awesome, keep kicking ass my dude, on a refeed try brown rice or sweet potatoe packed with nutrients and complex carbs which is the kind u need and want.

 

[Eddie Haskell]

Lat pull downs

1 warm up up 30kg.
3 working sets @ 70kg
10 reps

Bent over rows (underhand grip)
3 sets @ 37.5kg x 10 reps

Seated rows
3 sets (more emphasis on the pause and a 3-5 second negative for more time under tension)

3 x 55kg x 10 reps
Notes: lower back pump after doing nothing is crazy

Machine Pullovers
3 sets @ 57kg x 10 reps

Lower back extensions
3 sets with 15kg weight

Biceps:

Bicep curls
4 sets

1. 10 x 15kg
2. 10 x 15kg
3. 10 x 10kg
4. 10 10kg

Hammer curls
3 sets @ 10kg

Cable straight bar curls
3 sets @ 32kg x 10 reps

@CypherOCE lat pulls are good thats a start but you want to get into the 15 rep range mostly

 

[CypherOCE]

@CypherOCE lat pulls are good thats a start but you want to get into the 15 rep range mostly

Okay for sure I can definitely get to that.

Thanks for the tip!

 

[Eddie Haskell]

Okay for sure I can definitely get to that.

Thanks for the tip!

awesome PUMP it

 

[Mobster]

Swap the white buns for wholemeal

 

[CypherOCE]

Busy day today and missed a snack so going to bed a little hungry but nothing to serious

15.4k steps

Cal breakdown for the day:

207p 46f 114c

Ideally wanna nail down the carbs to 50-75 at
max.

 

[ceo]

Bros that's a good looking Burger wow

 

[ROIDDERS]

love to see your success

 

[chesty]

banana always is a good addition to a shake

 

[Ulter]

very nice chest day yesterday keep it up

 

[e2]

nothing beats some rope extensions with the triceps

 

[2Thick]

love that you threw in some calf workouts as well

 

[Vadim Fedorov]

I will admit those English muffins look really good

 

[Wootoom]

keep up the good work on those vegetables hit them hard

 

[JasonPriest]

definitely look forward to seeing your different meals

 

[BodyMonster34]

bro that's crazy meatball subs we used to eat those growing up in the trailer

 

[Quadsweep]

just be careful with all that bread definitely not something you want to get too much of

 

[ballin2504]

I’d try to cut out those buns

 

[Masonic Bodybuilder]

Food is definitely looking good. Bread is a killer when it comes to carbs. Try to find alternatives. You can make your own or find a keto bread too.

 

[CypherOCE]

Food is definitely looking good. Bread is a killer when it comes to carbs. Try to find alternatives. You can make your own or find a keto bread too.

I've made my own tortillas before but not a keto bread ill look into that!

Thanks!

 

[Masonic Bodybuilder]

I've made my own tortillas before but not a keto bread ill look into that!

Thanks!

Costco usually has some good options for keto breads/wraps/buns. Just helps keep the carbs down. Try to find one that has a clean ingredient label. If not, it is better to make your own.

 

[CypherOCE]

Quick walk around the local streets this morning as I have a busy day with meetings before I start work later this afternoon will try and hit the gym after work see how tired I feel failing that ill be in there tomorrow.

Have a Bucks weekend from Friday lunch time to Sunday morning. So I'll try and keep things tidy and limit the alcohol and food intake

Other than that its business as usual. pin day tomorrow morning, probably go delts again or try the ventro glute like Noah suggested. Only downside being ill have to use a 29g pin as I don't have anything else at the required length

 

[Npcclassicphysique champ]

Quick walk around the local streets this morning as I have a busy day with meetings before I start work later this afternoon will try and hit the gym after work see how tired I feel failing that ill be in there tomorrow.

Have a Bucks weekend from Friday lunch time to Sunday morning. So I'll try and keep things tidy and limit the alcohol and food intake

Other than that its business as usual. pin day tomorrow morning, probably go delts again or try the ventro glute like Noah suggested. Only downside being ill have to use a 29g pin as I don't have anything else at the required length

@CypherOCE pinning glutes with 29g pin is not a good idea, you need to get 25g, as 29 going to be HARD to push, better use 29g for your delts

limit the alcohol and lets get some push ups in there, update training please

 

[RoySimpson]

Made a bunch of meatball subs for dinner and snacks throughout the week ahead

Cals for both: 1059cal

72.5p 34f 107c

Will tone the carbs back going forward didn't realise it packed so much

View attachment 56125

@CypherOCE Not gonna lie this made me hungry!

 

[CypherOCE]

@CypherOCE pinning glutes with 29g pin is not a good idea, you need to get 25g, as 29 going to be HARD to push, better use 29g for your delts

limit the alcohol and lets get some push ups in there, update training please

Ordered some 25g this morning hopefully arrive end of the week and I can start rotating between delts and glutes

 

[Npcclassicphysique champ]

Ordered some 25g this morning hopefully arrive end of the week and I can start rotating between delts and glutes

snap a pic when up

 

[CypherOCE]

Training: Shoulders & Traps

3 x 25kg shoulder press
Rep range: 10

First set: 10
Second set: 6 - wrist is no bueno. Couldn’t hold out this week. Will have to rethink shoulders and get wife to come with me really need a spotter as my wrist does not like the weight.

Third set: 10 x 20kg - no spotter, needed one badly as my wrist is giving me grief lately.

3 x single arm front raises - 12.5kg

Rep range: 10 - squeezed out 12. Will up this weight next week.

First set: 12
Second set: 12
Third set: 12

3 x side lateral raise with dumbells - 8kg
1 set of 12.5kg - felt okay but then went back to the remaining at 8kg.

First set: 10
Second set: 12
Third set: 10
Fourth set: 12

3 x machine lateral raises - 32kg

First set: 12
Second set: 13
Third set: 11

3 x face pulls with rope on the cable machine
Rep range: 10-12 heavy sets @ 40kg

First set: 12
Second set: 12
Third set: 10

3 x cable lateral raises
3 sets x 7kg

Really underestimated how much pump would come from this

3 x reverse flys on the peak deck machine

First set: 15
Second set: 13
Third set: 8

6 x dumbell shrugs - 40kg and pyramid up 2.5kg each set until I hit the 50s.

Rep range: 15+

First set: 23
Second set: 23
Third set: 22
Fourth set: 20
Fifth set: 17
Sixth set: 15

 

[CypherOCE]

3 x 25kg shoulder press
Rep range: 10

First set: 10
Second set: 6 - wrist is no bueno. Couldn’t hold out this week. Will have to rethink shoulders and get wife to come with me really need a spotter as my wrist does not like the weight.

Third set: 10 x 20kg - no spotter, needed one badly as my wrist is giving me grief lately.

3 x single arm front raises - 12.5kg

Rep range: 10 - squeezed out 12. Will up this weight next week.

First set: 12
Second set: 12
Third set: 12

3 x side lateral raise with dumbells - 8kg
1 set of 12.5kg - felt okay but then went back to the remaining at 8kg.

First set: 10
Second set: 12
Third set: 10
Fourth set: 12

3 x machine lateral raises - 32kg

First set: 12
Second set: 13
Third set: 11

3 x face pulls with rope on the cable machine
Rep range: 10-12 heavy sets @ 40kg

First set: 12
Second set: 12
Third set: 10

3 x cable lateral raises
3 sets x 7kg

Really underestimated how much pump would come from this

3 x reverse flys on the peak deck machine

First set: 15
Second set: 13
Third set: 8

6 x dumbell shrugs - 40kg and pyramid up 2.5kg each set until I hit the 50s.

Rep range: 15+

First set: 23
Second set: 23
Third set: 22
Fourth set: 20
Fifth set: 17
Sixth set: 15

Further notes: felt kinda meh today I don’t know why, went to the gym regardless and it wasn’t a bad session just not as good as I would’ve liked to produce.

Will definitely hit shoulders again probably over the weekend and take my wife along to help me really get a good sesh on them.

Food intake has been good but I’m thinking I need to really rethink foods - more protein, less carbs.

Weigh in this morning: 87.4kg

it’s gone back up not sure why. I haven’t cheated on my diet really minus those damn hot dog buns

I don’t think I can eat less and not starve to death - for example, Fitbit put me at burning 3807 calories yesterday and I ate around 2200 give or take.

So I’m a little perplexed what more is it that I need to be doing? More dedicated cardio time other than what I get up to at work? Or something more along the lines of HIIT? Open to hear thoughts and opinions

That’s it for my rambling today

 

[CypherOCE]

snap a pic when up

First pic on the boards!

Hopefully dial this in even more in the coming weeks.

 

[25homes]

Looks food

 

[Noah Wixx]

Sometimes in life we won't always feel great or strong or up for a challenge, the key is when these moments happen you need to find a way to push past all mental barriers for achieving the desired outcome, I know you have what it takes for doing this, don't ever let a bad day dictate what you can accomplish, many times in the gym i didn't feel like going or was dragging and didn't want to do anything, on those days you need to just bite the bullet and go into the gym and fuck shit up. Happy you got 25g I think you will like the ease of rotation with more sites, overall better you do it that way less acar tissue build up over time, pushing through scar tissue is a bitch.

 

[Npcclassicphysique champ]

Training: Shoulders & Traps

3 x 25kg shoulder press
Rep range: 10

First set: 10
Second set: 6 - wrist is no bueno. Couldn’t hold out this week. Will have to rethink shoulders and get wife to come with me really need a spotter as my wrist does not like the weight.

Third set: 10 x 20kg - no spotter, needed one badly as my wrist is giving me grief lately.

3 x single arm front raises - 12.5kg

Rep range: 10 - squeezed out 12. Will up this weight next week.

First set: 12
Second set: 12
Third set: 12

3 x side lateral raise with dumbells - 8kg
1 set of 12.5kg - felt okay but then went back to the remaining at 8kg.

First set: 10
Second set: 12
Third set: 10
Fourth set: 12

3 x machine lateral raises - 32kg

First set: 12
Second set: 13
Third set: 11

3 x face pulls with rope on the cable machine
Rep range: 10-12 heavy sets @ 40kg

First set: 12
Second set: 12
Third set: 10

3 x cable lateral raises
3 sets x 7kg

Really underestimated how much pump would come from this

3 x reverse flys on the peak deck machine

First set: 15
Second set: 13
Third set: 8

6 x dumbell shrugs - 40kg and pyramid up 2.5kg each set until I hit the 50s.

Rep range: 15+

First set: 23
Second set: 23
Third set: 22
Fourth set: 20
Fifth set: 17
Sixth set: 15

Further notes: felt kinda meh today I don’t know why, went to the gym regardless and it wasn’t a bad session just not as good as I would’ve liked to produce.

Will definitely hit shoulders again probably over the weekend and take my wife along to help me really get a good sesh on them.

Food intake has been good but I’m thinking I need to really rethink foods - more protein, less carbs.

Weigh in this morning: 87.4kg

it’s gone back up not sure why. I haven’t cheated on my diet really minus those damn hot dog buns

I don’t think I can eat less and not starve to death - for example, Fitbit put me at burning 3807 calories yesterday and I ate around 2200 give or take.

View attachment 56558

So I’m a little perplexed what more is it that I need to be doing? More dedicated cardio time other than what I get up to at work? Or something more along the lines of HIIT? Open to hear thoughts and opinions

That’s it for my rambling today

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First pic on the boards!

Hopefully dial this in even more in the coming weeks.

@CypherOCE good steps bro i would like to see you with 15 reps added on some sets

you look great PUMPEd arms amazing

 

[CypherOCE]

Big weekend.

Cheated on the diet marginally while I was out but limited the alcohol intake to vodka soda which was terrible and kept me from having too many from the taste alone.

Pinned again tonight with 25g 1” pins in VG - I've been having trouble with PIP days after pinning i believe its the MCT carrier oil my body just doesn't agree with but I've pinned again tonight with the following protocol.

1. Warmed up the oil in hot water.
2. Warmed up the barrels once oil was in with a heat pack wrapped around them.
3. Massaged injection site for 5 minutes after on each side.
4. Had a hot shower and continued massage while in shower.
5. Foam roller and then heat pack followed by massage before I jumped into bed.

I'm hoping this is beneficial but I'm not holding my breath as my delts are still sore trying to lift my arms days after so I'm convinced its just MCT is no bueno for me so I might have to switch it up and find castor or GSO.

Weird thing is it's smooth as butter going in with no pain at all but the next day is usually when it starts.

Will report back with results of the above anyway

 

[Eddie Haskell]

Big weekend.

Cheated on the diet marginally while I was out but limited the alcohol intake to vodka soda which was terrible and kept me from having too many from the taste alone.

Pinned again tonight with 25g 1” pins in VG - I've been having trouble with PIP days after pinning i believe its the MCT carrier oil my body just doesn't agree with but I've pinned again tonight with the following protocol.

1. Warmed up the oil in hot water.
2. Warmed up the barrels once oil was in with a heat pack wrapped around them.
3. Massaged injection site for 5 minutes after on each side.
4. Had a hot shower and continued massage while in shower.
5. Foam roller and then heat pack followed by massage before I jumped into bed.

I'm hoping this is beneficial but I'm not holding my breath as my delts are still sore trying to lift my arms days after so I'm convinced its just MCT is no bueno for me so I might have to switch it up and find castor or GSO.

Weird thing is it's smooth as butter going in with no pain at all but the next day is usually when it starts.

Will report back with results of the above anyway

@CypherOCE if you dont like the mct switch up get a brand with a different carrier oil see how it feels man

 

[CypherOCE]

@CypherOCE if you dont like the mct switch up get a brand with a different carrier oil see how it feels man

So far so good with VG and the smaller gauge pin

Got my wife to help me out last night and its a little sore but nothing like before so maybe I goofed it up.

I'll monitor it for this week and see how it feels after work tonight and into tomorrow if nothing by then I think I should be fine

 

[Eddie Haskell]

So far so good with VG and the smaller gauge pin

Got my wife to help me out last night and its a little sore but nothing like before so maybe I goofed it up.

I'll monitor it for this week and see how it feels after work tonight and into tomorrow if nothing by then I think I should be fine

monitor and lets us know man and how about training?

 

[CypherOCE]

monitor and lets us know man and how about training?

Hitting shoulders now will update when I get back home probably include my steak for lunch and a general update aswell

 

[CypherOCE]

Hitting shoulders now will update when I get back home probably include my steak for lunch and a general update aswell

Really good session today with shoulders - since I have no spotter I swapped the dumbells for shoulder press and it was great.

Today was fantastic, had a great sleep, breakfast was good.

Pre workout help: 30mg anavar and 40mg winstrol

Training: Shoulders & Traps

3 x machine shoulder press @ 60kg
Rep range: 10

First set: 10
Second set: 11
Third set: 6 x 60kg - drop set till failure at 45kg

3 x single arm front raises - 12.5kg

Rep range: 10

First set: 15
Second set: 15
Third set: 15

3 x side lateral raise with dumbells - 9kg

First set: 10
Second set: 12
Third set: 10
Fourth set: 12

3 x machine lateral raises - 32kg

First set: 15
Second set: 15
Third set: 13

3 x face pulls with rope on the cable machine
Rep range: 10-12 heavy sets @ 50kg

First set: 10
Second set: 10
Third set: 10

3 x cable lateral raises
3 sets x 9kg

Pump today was insane so much so my shoulders were in pain loved it.

3 x reverse flys on the peak deck machine
3 sets until failure each time

6 x dumbell shrugs - 40kg and pyramid up 2.5kg each set until I hit the 50s.
Rep range: 15+

First set: 23
Second set: 23
Third set: 22
Fourth set: 20
Fifth set: 17
Sixth set: 15

 

[CypherOCE]

Big day out on site

Lots of walking and lots of why the fk did I take Friday off this has gone to shit but that doesn't matter the shift is over now I can watch some youtube until I fall asleep

Cals hit today: 231p 66f 137c
Overall: 2108cal from the 2300.

Will probably have to rethink my breakfast and cut out the tortilla after I go through this batch of breakfast rolls. That should cut carbs down to 60/70. Which is probably more ideal while trying to cut weight. Other than this, it has been a very productive day.

Update on the Pip / MCT saga:

VG injection on the right side with the primo has started but its not nearly as bad as previous injections. I'll keep monitoring it to see if the protocol used above works if so I'll keep at it with the MCT carrier if not I may have to go pharma route or find an Aussie vendor who brews with castor or GSO.

 

[BigBoyLabs]

Big day out on site

Lots of walking and lots of why the fk did I take Friday off this has gone to shit but that doesn't matter the shift is over now I can watch some youtube until I fall asleep

View attachment 57208


Cals hit today: 231p 66f 137c
Overall: 2108cal from the 2300.

Will probably have to rethink my breakfast and cut out the tortilla after I go through this batch of breakfast rolls. That should cut carbs down to 60/70. Which is probably more ideal while trying to cut weight. Other than this, it has been a very productive day.

Update on the Pip / MCT saga:

VG injection on the right side with the primo has started but its not nearly as bad as previous injections. I'll keep monitoring it to see if the protocol used above works if so I'll keep at it with the MCT carrier if not I may have to go pharma route or find an Aussie vendor who brews with castor or GSO.

20km by foot?!

The cut is well and truly underway!

 

[CypherOCE]

20km by foot?!

The cut is well and truly underway!

Yeah haha 40,000 sqm site all to myself at night so I'm walking / running around like a blue ass fly or I'm on the broom to give a chop out to the labourers

I hate telling them to do something and then walking off make me feel like a prick

 

[Eveflorence]

Great log mate keeping yourself very accountable, well done. Regarding your cholesterol way back at the start, citrus bergamot will help with that, it really helped get my hdl up whilst lowering my hdl.

 

[Ratatata]

Great log mate keeping yourself very accountable, well done. Regarding your cholesterol way back at the start, citrus bergamot will help with that, it really helped get my hdl up whilst lowering my hdl.

How much citrus bergamot is daily to use? Thinking of adding it.

 

[CypherOCE]

Great log mate keeping yourself very accountable, well done. Regarding your cholesterol way back at the start, citrus bergamot will help with that, it really helped get my hdl up whilst lowering my hdl.

Never heard of that one! Can I find it on Amazon and what kind of dosage are we talking about?

Definitely want to get it lower as it was the only thing I was concerned about

 

[Ratatata]

Never heard of that one! Can I find it on Amazon and what kind of dosage are we talking about?

Definitely want to get it lower as it was the only thing I was concerned about

U can get in iherb no idea abt dosage.

 

[Eddie Haskell]

Really good session today with shoulders - since I have no spotter I swapped the dumbells for shoulder press and it was great.

Today was fantastic, had a great sleep, breakfast was good.

Pre workout help: 30mg anavar and 40mg winstrol

Training: Shoulders & Traps

3 x machine shoulder press @ 60kg
Rep range: 10

First set: 10
Second set: 11
Third set: 6 x 60kg - drop set till failure at 45kg

3 x single arm front raises - 12.5kg

Rep range: 10

First set: 15
Second set: 15
Third set: 15

3 x side lateral raise with dumbells - 9kg

First set: 10
Second set: 12
Third set: 10
Fourth set: 12

3 x machine lateral raises - 32kg

First set: 15
Second set: 15
Third set: 13

3 x face pulls with rope on the cable machine
Rep range: 10-12 heavy sets @ 50kg

First set: 10
Second set: 10
Third set: 10

3 x cable lateral raises
3 sets x 9kg

Pump today was insane so much so my shoulders were in pain loved it.

3 x reverse flys on the peak deck machine
3 sets until failure each time

6 x dumbell shrugs - 40kg and pyramid up 2.5kg each set until I hit the 50s.
Rep range: 15+

First set: 23
Second set: 23
Third set: 22
Fourth set: 20
Fifth set: 17
Sixth set: 15

Big day out on site

Lots of walking and lots of why the fk did I take Friday off this has gone to shit but that doesn't matter the shift is over now I can watch some youtube until I fall asleep

View attachment 57208


Cals hit today: 231p 66f 137c
Overall: 2108cal from the 2300.

Will probably have to rethink my breakfast and cut out the tortilla after I go through this batch of breakfast rolls. That should cut carbs down to 60/70. Which is probably more ideal while trying to cut weight. Other than this, it has been a very productive day.

Update on the Pip / MCT saga:

VG injection on the right side with the primo has started but its not nearly as bad as previous injections. I'll keep monitoring it to see if the protocol used above works if so I'll keep at it with the MCT carrier if not I may have to go pharma route or find an Aussie vendor who brews with castor or GSO.

@CypherOCE good training day and the MCT sag I see you're going into the right direction maybe check guys with EO mixes

 

[stevesmi]

Yeah haha 40,000 sqm site all to myself at night so I'm walking / running around like a blue ass fly or I'm on the broom to give a chop out to the labourers

I hate telling them to do something and then walking off make me feel like a prick

that sounds awesome

 

[Eveflorence]

Never heard of that one! Can I find it on Amazon and what kind of dosage are we talking about?

Definitely want to get it lower as it was the only thing I was concerned about

You can get it from chemist warehouse, that Dr Caruso brand. I just ran a tablet a day, can't recall the dosage but for once my cholesterol was in range whilst using it.

 

[CypherOCE]

You can get it from chemist warehouse, that Dr Caruso brand. I just ran a tablet a day, can't recall the dosage but for once my cholesterol was in range whilst using it.

I'll pick some up after the gym!

Thanks for the tip very much appreciated

 

[rizzlekdizzle]

Really good session today with shoulders - since I have no spotter I swapped the dumbells for shoulder press and it was great.

Today was fantastic, had a great sleep, breakfast was good.

Pre workout help: 30mg anavar and 40mg winstrol

Training: Shoulders & Traps

3 x machine shoulder press @ 60kg
Rep range: 10

First set: 10
Second set: 11
Third set: 6 x 60kg - drop set till failure at 45kg

3 x single arm front raises - 12.5kg

Rep range: 10

First set: 15
Second set: 15
Third set: 15

3 x side lateral raise with dumbells - 9kg

First set: 10
Second set: 12
Third set: 10
Fourth set: 12

3 x machine lateral raises - 32kg

First set: 15
Second set: 15
Third set: 13

3 x face pulls with rope on the cable machine
Rep range: 10-12 heavy sets @ 50kg

First set: 10
Second set: 10
Third set: 10

3 x cable lateral raises
3 sets x 9kg

Pump today was insane so much so my shoulders were in pain loved it.

3 x reverse flys on the peak deck machine
3 sets until failure each time

6 x dumbell shrugs - 40kg and pyramid up 2.5kg each set until I hit the 50s.
Rep range: 15+

First set: 23
Second set: 23
Third set: 22
Fourth set: 20
Fifth set: 17
Sixth set: 15

fuck man that's an intense session!

 

[Mobster]

I'd have just asked whoever in the gym for a spot

 

[CypherOCE]

I'd have just asked whoever in the gym for a spot

Only two girls in there at the time both with headphones on so I didn’t bother

 

[ballin2504]

You definitely got the steps in

 

[JasonPriest]

Workouts look fantastic

 

[BodyMonster34]

bro you getting some good conditioning to

 

[Quadsweep]

I like the job you're doing it just shows that you are a competitor

 

[Austin316]

very nice volume on this training

 

[sambee38]

diet is looking on point great start to the week

 

[BookerTNY]

make sure you give us a midweek update we love to hear from you

 

[Arabian]

excellent job on this log you are getting progression

 

[Zyglamail]

food is looking solid keep up the good diet

 

[Shrine]

nice job on the workouts

 

[caligirl85]

I like the way you structure the training it's very simple but effective

 

[zedhed]

looking really good man keep it up

 

[25homes]

Nice work

 

[Masonic Bodybuilder]

Good session man. Getting good sleep makes all the difference. Love the steps too.

 

[CypherOCE]

update for yesterday

Good steps but bad workout just wasn’t feeling it I was pretty distracted with things going on at home and work and just couldn’t get my head in the right zone and that my body doesn’t agree with the MCT carrier is also annoying the shit out of me I’m shattered about that

PIP Update: it was horrendous yesterday, I had a belt on and every time it was loose and rested on the top of my glute I had to readjust feels much better this morning however.

Steps was good yesterday. Diet also staying on track. I think I’ve pretty much kicked my sugar addiction minus the morning coffees also no more sugary crap food or chips as a snack at work either is a big deal for me because I would also do that.

I’ll go for a big walk today see how I feel on the mental side of things before deciding to hit the gym or not

 

[RoySimpson]

Really good session today with shoulders - since I have no spotter I swapped the dumbells for shoulder press and it was great.

Today was fantastic, had a great sleep, breakfast was good.

Pre workout help: 30mg anavar and 40mg winstrol

Training: Shoulders & Traps

3 x machine shoulder press @ 60kg
Rep range: 10

First set: 10
Second set: 11
Third set: 6 x 60kg - drop set till failure at 45kg

3 x single arm front raises - 12.5kg

Rep range: 10

First set: 15
Second set: 15
Third set: 15

3 x side lateral raise with dumbells - 9kg

First set: 10
Second set: 12
Third set: 10
Fourth set: 12

3 x machine lateral raises - 32kg

First set: 15
Second set: 15
Third set: 13

3 x face pulls with rope on the cable machine
Rep range: 10-12 heavy sets @ 50kg

First set: 10
Second set: 10
Third set: 10

3 x cable lateral raises
3 sets x 9kg

Pump today was insane so much so my shoulders were in pain loved it.

3 x reverse flys on the peak deck machine
3 sets until failure each time

6 x dumbell shrugs - 40kg and pyramid up 2.5kg each set until I hit the 50s.
Rep range: 15+

First set: 23
Second set: 23
Third set: 22
Fourth set: 20
Fifth set: 17
Sixth set: 15

@CypherOCE Super solid work right here!

 

[Coolguy]

Have you run a cycle before this ?
Or changed up your injection sites?
Should be having so much pip.

 

[Npcclassicphysique champ]

update for yesterday

Good steps but bad workout just wasn’t feeling it I was pretty distracted with things going on at home and work and just couldn’t get my head in the right zone and that my body doesn’t agree with the MCT carrier is also annoying the shit out of me I’m shattered about that

PIP Update: it was horrendous yesterday, I had a belt on and every time it was loose and rested on the top of my glute I had to readjust feels much better this morning however.

Steps was good yesterday. Diet also staying on track. I think I’ve pretty much kicked my sugar addiction minus the morning coffees also no more sugary crap food or chips as a snack at work either is a big deal for me because I would also do that.


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I’ll go for a big walk today see how I feel on the mental side of things before deciding to hit the gym or not

@CypherOCE good steps but the PIP is not good, did you talk to the source more? maybe time for replacements bro

 

[Ratatata]

update for yesterday

Good steps but bad workout just wasn’t feeling it I was pretty distracted with things going on at home and work and just couldn’t get my head in the right zone and that my body doesn’t agree with the MCT carrier is also annoying the shit out of me I’m shattered about that

PIP Update: it was horrendous yesterday, I had a belt on and every time it was loose and rested on the top of my glute I had to readjust feels much better this morning however.

Steps was good yesterday. Diet also staying on track. I think I’ve pretty much kicked my sugar addiction minus the morning coffees also no more sugary crap food or chips as a snack at work either is a big deal for me because I would also do that.


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I’ll go for a big walk today see how I feel on the mental side of things before deciding to hit the gym or not

By any chance u using testE 400?

 

[CypherOCE]

Have you run a cycle before this ?
Or changed up your injection sites?
Should be having so much pip.

Yeah last one was Pharma tho but I did have MCT mast E and had no issues.

It was a chemisis UGL vial 100ml - might have been bunk though. Got it from a friend. But I didn’t have any issues with it.

Honestly just think it’s MCT and my body not liking it. I tried top of my glutes, Delts and VG.

All no bueno, PIP on VG manageable but not ideal considering work requirements

 

[CypherOCE]

By any chance u using testE 400?

Test E 400 and the Primo

Primo injection side being the worse of the two. test side was fine it was sore but wasn’t stopping me from bending over to pick things up like primo side was.

 

[Coolguy]

Test E 400 and the Primo

Primo injection side being the worse of the two. test side was fine it was sore but wasn’t stopping me from bending over to pick things up like primo side was.

Double high pip compounds there brother.
Try splitting the doses again into more frequent injections.

 

[CypherOCE]

@CypherOCE good steps but the PIP is not good, did you talk to the source more? maybe time for replacements bro

Yeah we spoke in depth about it

Tried different gauge needles and warming it up prior to injection etc

We believe it’s just my body not liking MCT which is annoying but not much I can do about it swapping to Castor and or GSO I think is the next best thing

 

[Coolguy]

I get pip in my quad from primo but delts vg and glutes are fine.
I spilt my doses into 3 since I'm.doing like 780 primo a week.
Generally slight pain with initial injection but goes away pretty quick.

 

[CypherOCE]

I get pip in my quad from primo but delts vg and glutes are fine.
I spilt my doses into 3 since I'm.doing like 780 primo a week.
Generally slight pain with initial injection but goes away pretty quick.

I did 0.5ml twice a week

Initial injection is fine it’s actually super smooth and I just lightly press and take my time injecting it- pain started 24+ hours after

Injection was Sunday night I believe and pain started Monday morning has only really dissipated this morning

 

[Ratatata]

Test E 400 and the Primo

Primo injection side being the worse of the two. test side was fine it was sore but wasn’t stopping me from bending over to pick things up like primo side was.

Ur getting pip from test 400 brother, i have seen many reporting pip from test 400 of different vendor. High mg blend r known to have pip, it’s usually for kind of advance users. Looks like i read it wrong. U r doing 2 different injection site for oil. My bad

 

[CypherOCE]

Ur getting pip from test 400 brother, i have seen many reporting pip from test 400 of different vendor. High mg blend r known to have pip, it’s usually for kind of advance users.

Test was 0.3ml was left side and it’s not painful at all primo was 0.5ml right side and it’s still tender this morning but it’s manageable. I had trouble sitting and just laying in bed but only on the primo side

Surely it can’t cross sides the injections are on opposite sides of my glutes

 

[Coolguy]

Test was 0.3ml was left side and it’s not painful at all primo was 0.5ml right side and it’s still tender this morning but it’s manageable. I had trouble sitting and just laying in bed but only on the primo side

Surely it can’t cross sides the injections are on opposite sides of my glutes

Nah it shouldn't unless it becomes super inflammed but then it will only feel like that.
Any inflammation? Or just pip

 

[Ratatata]

Test was 0.3ml was left side and it’s not painful at all primo was 0.5ml right side and it’s still tender this morning but it’s manageable. I had trouble sitting and just laying in bed but only on the primo side

Surely it can’t cross sides the injections are on opposite sides of my glutes

Y don’t u try putting both oil in same barrel and increase injection frequency? Might help, i think every vendor does mct oil.

 

[CypherOCE]

Nah it shouldn't unless it becomes super inflammed but then it will only feel like that.
Any inflammation? Or just pip

Delts were warm to the touch for a week and it was painful to lift them, only started feeling better yesterday from Thursday last week.

No inflammation with VG just the soreness unlike I’ve experienced before. Last cycle was literally perfectly I got PIP once but it wasn’t this bad and was gone within a day, partly why I think it’s just the MCT my body doesn’t like

 

[CypherOCE]

Y don’t u try putting both oil in same barrel and increase injection frequency? Might help, i think every vendor does mct oil.

That was going to be my next port of call to see if it made a difference but tbh I’m a little hesitant I don’t want that kind of pain again

If I did it and backloaded a 1ml pin it’s roughly 0.16ml daily for 5 injections. Probably make it much more manageable but now I’m just scared of the pain

 

[Ratatata]

That was going to be my next port of call to see if it made a difference but tbh I’m a little hesitant I don’t want that kind of pain again

If I did it and backloaded a 1ml pin it’s roughly 0.16ml daily for 5 injections. Probably make it much more manageable but now I’m just scared of the pain

I am bit lucky in terms of pip so far, i rupture my vein taking shot yesterday and blood was leaked bit heavy very first time but had no pip today, i think most vendor do mct oil, u have to try here and there to make it out for now. Can’t say much.

 

[Coolguy]

That was going to be my next port of call to see if it made a difference but tbh I’m a little hesitant I don’t want that kind of pain again

If I did it and backloaded a 1ml pin it’s roughly 0.16ml daily for 5 injections. Probably make it much more manageable but now I’m just scared of the pain

I would see about getting another vial from another supplier just one and testing at 0.1ml to see if it is mct oil that's the issue.
I don't doubt that rnd oil is spot on but it can happen.
If he hasn't had any other complaints then it's probably not the batch and it probably is the mct.
I think anabolic minds has castor oil maybe grab a vial from them and give that a go?
I used tested there oil and didn't feel any worse so should be OK

 

[Ratatata]

I would see about getting another vial from another supplier just one and testing at 0.1ml to see if it is mct oil that's the issue.
I don't doubt that rnd oil is spot on but it can happen.
If he hasn't had any other complaints then it's probably not the batch and it probably is the mct.
I think anabolic minds has castor oil maybe grab a vial from them and give that a go?
I used tested there oil and didn't feel any worse so should be OK

I think electus is using his primo at 750mg per week, he has no complain at all, must be carrier oil.

 

[Coolguy]

@CypherOCE hit up anabolic minds or one of the other castor oil boys and grab a vial to test

 

[CypherOCE]

@CypherOCE hit up anabolic minds or one of the other castor oil boys and grab a vial to test

Already on it Alpha Labs will be roughly a week and gear up is sending out AMPS for me

I didn’t find anyone else but I’ll suss out anabolic minds as well

 

[Coolguy]

Already on it Alpha Labs will be roughly a week and gear up is sending out AMPS for me

I didn’t find anyone else but I’ll suss out anabolic minds as well

Perfect let's see how you go

 

[Noah Wixx]

Great work my dude

 

[CypherOCE]

Apologies I've been lazy the past week since the MCT saga and had some personal issues that hit me unexpectedly

Anyway, less drama and more back to the point.

Starting new stuff pharma stuff tomorrow with clen to add in.

New jab protocol: Monday, Wednesday and Friday

Aim here is to lower the overall coke going in in the hope that it will help me out. Fingers crossed haha

Diet hasn't strayed too much, ate 3 Tim Tams and had a whiskey neat.

Back into the swing of things tomorrow for shoulders. Will update the log after that

 

[LevButlerov]

Apologies I've been lazy the past week since the MCT saga and had some personal issues that hit me unexpectedly

Anyway, less drama and more back to the point.

Starting new stuff pharma stuff tomorrow with clen to add in.

New jab protocol: Monday, Wednesday and Friday

Aim here is to lower the overall coke going in in the hope that it will help me out. Fingers crossed haha

Diet hasn't strayed too much, ate 3 Tim Tams and had a whiskey neat.

Back into the swing of things tomorrow for shoulders. Will update the log after that

great to see you back
update us more, EVO family is waiting for you @CypherOCE

 

[CypherOCE]

Training: Shoulders & Traps

3 x machine shoulder press @ 60kg
Rep range: 10

First set: 10
Second set: 10
Third set: 10 x 60kg - drop set till failure at 45kg

3 x single arm front raises - 12.5kg
Rep range: 10

First set: 10
Second set: 12
Third set: 10

4 x side lateral raise with dumbells - 8kg

First set: 10
Second set: 12
Third set: 10
Fourth set: 12

3 x machine lateral raises - 32kg

First set: 15
Second set: 15
Third set: 13

3 x face pulls with rope on the cable machine
Rep range: 10-12 heavy sets @ 50kg

First set: 10
Second set: 10
Third set: 10

3 x cable lateral raises
3 sets x 9kg

3 x reverse flys on the peak deck machine
3 sets until failure each time

6 x dumbell shrugs - 50kg
Rep range: 10 or more until my grip fails

First set: 15
Second set: 16
Third set: 13
Fourth set: 12
Fifth set: 12
Sixth set: 10