Pct help for newbie wanting to come off early in cycle

[rooster18]

Hey guys, I'm 30 years old, I've been on cycle for about 20 days, 250 sus and 100 deca every 3.5 days.

I want to come off, it just isn't what I thought it would be, its made me depressed, it changed the vibe that I was having with my long distance girlfriend so much that she broke up with me (she wasn't happy when I started). It made me more serious and less funny, cos I'm feeling anxious and depressed. Honestly I thought it was gonna make me happier and more confident but no, not at all. On top of this I've trained less on cycle than what I did off cycle, have less motivation.

Today I got my blood test results. Every thing within normal range apart from inflammation possible due to a possible skin infection from pinning, or just from being on cycle also..

LH 0.1 U/L
FSH 0.3 IU/L
Oestradiol 485 pmol/L
Testosteron 185.2 dmol/L

What do I do after 20 days on cycle, can I just stop, do I need to run PCT, if so what and how much, please help

Cheers

 

[Npcclassicphysique champ]

Hey guys, I'm 30 years old, I've been on cycle for about 20 days, 250 sus and 100 deca every 3.5 days.

I want to come off, it just isn't what I thought it would be, its made me depressed, it changed the vibe that I was having with my long distance girlfriend so much that she broke up with me (she wasn't happy when I started). It made me more serious and less funny, cos I'm feeling anxious and depressed. Honestly I thought it was gonna make me happier and more confident but no, not at all. On top of this I've trained less on cycle than what I did off cycle, have less motivation.

Today I got my blood test results. Every thing within normal range apart from inflammation possible due to a possible skin infection from pinning, or just from being on cycle also..

LH 0.1 U/L
FSH 0.3 IU/L
Oestradiol 485 pmol/L
Testosteron 185.2 dmol/L

What do I do after 20 days on cycle, can I just stop, do I need to run PCT, if so what and how much, please help

Cheers

@rooster18 welcome back to the EVO family! I read your original thread where you asked for help here:
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/new-to-steroids-help-please.99659
but when we told you to share with us and post a LOG here
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/new-to-steroids-help-please.99659/post-1549106
You completely ignored us and didnt share with the EVO family.
This is why the problem is happening. You have no LOG up, no accountability and no guidance.

To start off, you're on 250mgs sustanon and 100mgs deca durabolin but your bloods seem way off, no ai? no organ liver support?

Before we talk PCT or anything else, your bloods you just took are required.
Please post your full blood work, with numbers and ranges so we can actually see the whole situation.

I hope this time we can actually get a LOG going so you do the proper PCT.

 

[Mobster]

Start with this: https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/the-perfect-pct-simplified.49252/

 

[rooster18]

@rooster18 welcome back to the EVO family! I read your original thread where you asked for help here:
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/new-to-steroids-help-please.99659
but when we told you to share with us and post a LOG here
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/new-to-steroids-help-please.99659/post-1549106
You completely ignored us and didnt share with the EVO family.
This is why the problem is happening. You have no LOG up, no accountability and no guidance.

To start off, you're on 250mgs sustanon and 100mgs deca durabolin but your bloods seem way off, no ai? no organ liver support?

Before we talk PCT or anything else, your bloods you just took are required.
Please post your full blood work, with numbers and ranges so we can actually see the whole situation.

I hope this time we can actually get a LOG going so you do the proper PCT.

Heres bloods..
Yeah sorry I've been meaning to do it, I've just kinda fallen off, have had other things going on, I tracked a full week of eating and was eating close to 4000 calories, but then I was getting bad brain fog and felt bloated, I realize I was eating a bit much salt because some of what I was eating wer those muscle chef microwave meals and I was gonna focus on diet and start eating the proper foods but then kind of lost motivation cos of anxiety depression and what was going on with my girl.

 

[rooster18]

Start with this: https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/the-perfect-pct-simplified.49252/

Thanks mate will take a look

 

[LevButlerov]

Heres bloods..
Yeah sorry I've been meaning to do it, I've just kinda fallen off, have had other things going on, I tracked a full week of eating and was eating close to 4000 calories, but then I was getting bad brain fog and felt bloated, I realize I was eating a bit much salt because some of what I was eating wer those muscle chef microwave meals and I was gonna focus on diet and start eating the proper foods but then kind of lost motivation cos of anxiety depression and what was going on with my girl.

@rooster18 to give you an idea of the problem you have is this
your estrogen E2 is 485 thats about 400% higher than NORMAL, 400%! imagine that

thats why you're depressed and feel horrible, its NOT the steroids, its the fact that you didnt start a LOG journal for the community when we asked you and you didnt add an Ai to the cycle.

do you want to feel better? start off by doing 2 things, first add aromasin 12.5mgs EOD asap and drop the deca, just stay on sustanon, if you pct now you'll get even MORE depressed
and 2nd thing you need to start a LOG journal for this cycle NOW in a NEW thread

Please post a Log Journal asap for us

Please click the anabolic forum
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/forums/anabolic-steroids-and-peds.2/
top RIGHT, you see: +POST THREAD
click that

in Title: write your cycle name, like> My _____ Cycle Log
___ = the name of your log
example: My Sustanon cycle Log
in body: write your planned cycle or cycle you doing now, your diet, training and we will help you along on your cycle

here is a good template on a workout log to follow:
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/workout-log-template.99224/

here are examples of LOG Journals

https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-recomp-cut-log-2023-2024.96694/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/mobsters-training-diary.84438/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roidrage69-log.90127
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/domestic-supply-bulking-log-25homes-max.97609/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...obolan-equipoise-tbol-contest-prep-log.97138/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...osterone-deca-primobolan-hgh-cycle-log.97978/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...igas-hgh-and-bpc157-recovery-cycle-log.97594/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...enbolone-cycle-log-let-the-gains-begin.98399/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/pigsy-new-sponsor-ugl-contest-prep-log.96779/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-2023-2024-log.95956/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...stosterone-cardarine-cutting-cycle-log.97281/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roidragewife-female-training-log.95769/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/2024-lean-bulking-cycle-log.97986/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-trt-with-deca-durabolin-log.97962/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...bodybuilding-log-masters-55-competitor.97210/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/losiol-primobolan-testosterone-log.96581/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roughy-steroid-cycle-and-training.97944/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/fatboy999-2024-cycle-log.97936/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/testosterone-equipoise-trenbolone-cycle-log.96963/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-trt-log.98284/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/16-week-testosterone-cardarine-n2guard-cycle-log.98034/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/training-log-female.90425
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...tosterone-masteron-primobolan-blast-log.98328
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/25homes-revenge-transformation-log-2023.88570/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...n-season-sponsored-by-nordic-fusion-log.89817
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-contest-prep-log.87619/

 

[RoidRage69]

The reason you are depressed is because the girl you were dating long distance found some other dude most likely. You need to expect that to happen. Women are even more horny than men they just wont admit it because of the stigma of being called a whore. They are fuck machines. They are programmed to fuck to populate the world. Never do a long distance thing. If I were you I would go on tinder and just fuck everything you can and maybe you will be lucky to find a chick that likes to have threesomes with other chicks. That would be heaven. Then you would love to get back on the gear.

 

[rooster18]

@rooster18 to give you an idea of the problem you have is this
your estrogen E2 is 485 thats about 400% higher than NORMAL, 400%! imagine that

thats why you're depressed and feel horrible, its NOT the steroids, its the fact that you didnt start a LOG journal for the community when we asked you and you didnt add an Ai to the cycle.

do you want to feel better? start off by doing 2 things, first add aromasin 12.5mgs EOD asap and drop the deca, just stay on sustanon, if you pct now you'll get even MORE depressed
and 2nd thing you need to start a LOG journal for this cycle NOW in a NEW thread

Please post a Log Journal asap for us

Please click the anabolic forum
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/forums/anabolic-steroids-and-peds.2/
top RIGHT, you see: +POST THREAD
click that

in Title: write your cycle name, like> My _____ Cycle Log
___ = the name of your log
example: My Sustanon cycle Log
in body: write your planned cycle or cycle you doing now, your diet, training and we will help you along on your cycle

here is a good template on a workout log to follow:
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/workout-log-template.99224/

here are examples of LOG Journals

https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-recomp-cut-log-2023-2024.96694/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/mobsters-training-diary.84438/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roidrage69-log.90127
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/domestic-supply-bulking-log-25homes-max.97609/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...obolan-equipoise-tbol-contest-prep-log.97138/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...osterone-deca-primobolan-hgh-cycle-log.97978/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...igas-hgh-and-bpc157-recovery-cycle-log.97594/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...enbolone-cycle-log-let-the-gains-begin.98399/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/pigsy-new-sponsor-ugl-contest-prep-log.96779/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-2023-2024-log.95956/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...stosterone-cardarine-cutting-cycle-log.97281/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roidragewife-female-training-log.95769/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/2024-lean-bulking-cycle-log.97986/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-trt-with-deca-durabolin-log.97962/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...bodybuilding-log-masters-55-competitor.97210/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/losiol-primobolan-testosterone-log.96581/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roughy-steroid-cycle-and-training.97944/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/fatboy999-2024-cycle-log.97936/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/testosterone-equipoise-trenbolone-cycle-log.96963/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-trt-log.98284/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/16-week-testosterone-cardarine-n2guard-cycle-log.98034/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/training-log-female.90425
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...tosterone-masteron-primobolan-blast-log.98328
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/25homes-revenge-transformation-log-2023.88570/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...n-season-sponsored-by-nordic-fusion-log.89817
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-contest-prep-log.87619/

Ok i will start log today, the aromasin i already ordered am waiting on arrival.
So aromasin 12.5mg every 2nd day?
Should this bring my estrogen to normal range?

 

[rooster18]

The reason you are depressed is because the girl you were dating long distance found some other dude most likely. You need to expect that to happen. Women are even more horny than men they just wont admit it because of the stigma of being called a whore. They are fuck machines. They are programmed to fuck to populate the world. Never do a long distance thing. If I were you I would go on tinder and just fuck everything you can and maybe you will be lucky to find a chick that likes to have threesomes with other chicks. That would be heaven. Then you would love to get back on the gear.

Yeah probz right bro, idk we were good friends for a long time bro, its just disappointing ya know. But yeah your right shoulda known better getting caught up in a long term thing. Fuck she was a good fuck tho, kinky bitch, think thats y I "fell in love"

 

[RoidRage69]

Yeah probz right bro, idk we were good friends for a long time bro, its just disappointing ya know. But yeah your right shoulda known better getting caught up in a long term thing. Fuck she was a good fuck tho, kinky bitch, think thats y I "fell in love"

Dont worry there are plenty of other kinky ones out there just looking for it. You will get better. Everything happens for a reason.

 

[LevButlerov]

Ok i will start log today, the aromasin i already ordered am waiting on arrival.
So aromasin 12.5mg every 2nd day?
Should this bring my estrogen to normal range?

@rooster18 waiting for your log to start

and yes 12.5mgs EOD not every 2nd day
like mon/wed/fri/sun/tue/thur/sat and so on

 

[LevButlerov]

Yeah probz right bro, idk we were good friends for a long time bro, its just disappointing ya know. But yeah your right shoulda known better getting caught up in a long term thing. Fuck she was a good fuck tho, kinky bitch, think thats y I "fell in love"

lots of fish in the sea bro dont worry

 

[stevesmi]

sustanon and deca both contain long esters which means they will need 7 weeks or so to clear

that is a long time to be shutdown. so recovery will be a slow process.

yes you need a pct to help w/ a soft landing

 

[Arabian]

Of course you need a post cycle
otherwise you're going to crash pretty hard

 

[BookerTNY]

my advice is put up a log
and let us help you step by step

 

[sambee38]

some guys can get away with no pct
but it's a risky proposition don't do it

 

[Austin316]

hopefully you do the right thing and put up a log
that's going to be what you have to do

 

[Quadsweep]

your blood work looks normal for this stage of the game
also like the other guys have said don't worry plenty of fish in the sea

 

[BodyMonster34]

bro I just stay on I do Sports trt now
feel like a real man this way

 

[JasonPriest]

pct is a very smart choice
some guys go without it but it's not a good decision

 

[StevenDarwinMD]

LOG APPROVED - PLEASE POST A LOG

 

[rooster18]

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@rooster18 to give you an idea of the problem you have is this
your estrogen E2 is 485 thats about 400% higher than NORMAL, 400%! imagine that

thats why you're depressed and feel horrible, its NOT the steroids, its the fact that you didnt start a LOG journal for the community when we asked you and you didnt add an Ai to the cycle.

do you want to feel better? start off by doing 2 things, first add aromasin 12.5mgs EOD asap and drop the deca, just stay on sustanon, if you pct now you'll get even MORE depressed
and 2nd thing you need to start a LOG journal for this cycle NOW in a NEW thread

Please post a Log Journal asap for us

Please click the anabolic forum
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/forums/anabolic-steroids-and-peds.2/
top RIGHT, you see: +POST THREAD
click that

in Title: write your cycle name, like> My _____ Cycle Log
___ = the name of your log
example: My Sustanon cycle Log
in body: write your planned cycle or cycle you doing now, your diet, training and we will help you along on your cycle

here is a good template on a workout log to follow:
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/workout-log-template.99224/

here are examples of LOG Journals

https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-recomp-cut-log-2023-2024.96694/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/mobsters-training-diary.84438/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roidrage69-log.90127
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/domestic-supply-bulking-log-25homes-max.97609/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...obolan-equipoise-tbol-contest-prep-log.97138/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...osterone-deca-primobolan-hgh-cycle-log.97978/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...igas-hgh-and-bpc157-recovery-cycle-log.97594/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...enbolone-cycle-log-let-the-gains-begin.98399/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/pigsy-new-sponsor-ugl-contest-prep-log.96779/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-2023-2024-log.95956/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...stosterone-cardarine-cutting-cycle-log.97281/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roidragewife-female-training-log.95769/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/2024-lean-bulking-cycle-log.97986/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-trt-with-deca-durabolin-log.97962/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...bodybuilding-log-masters-55-competitor.97210/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/losiol-primobolan-testosterone-log.96581/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roughy-steroid-cycle-and-training.97944/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/fatboy999-2024-cycle-log.97936/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/testosterone-equipoise-trenbolone-cycle-log.96963/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-trt-log.98284/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/16-week-testosterone-cardarine-n2guard-cycle-log.98034/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/training-log-female.90425
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...tosterone-masteron-primobolan-blast-log.98328
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/25homes-revenge-transformation-log-2023.88570/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...n-season-sponsored-by-nordic-fusion-log.89817
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-contest-prep-log.87619/

Hey good timing my order arrived today, I got aromasin 10mg tablets, is 10mg ok?

 

[Noah Wixx]

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Hey good timing my order arrived today, I got aromasin 10mg tablets, is 10mg ok?

How many tablets did u get in the order just want to make sure u got enough for a full pct.

 

[RoidRage69]

I like lev advice. Stay on sustanon and drop the deca. Go get on tinder and u will feel better.

 

[rooster18]

How many tablets did u get in the order just want to make sure u got enough for a full pct.

50, I was still deciding whether to just say on sus and take aromasin EOD to bring estrogen down or to come off, but will 50 be enough for pct?

 

[rooster18]

I like lev advice. Stay on sustanon and drop the deca. Go get on tinder and u will feel better.

Yeah probz right haha, I'm gonna decide today whether to do that or come off for now

 

[Mobster]

Thanks mate will take a look

Lots of great info

 

[rooster18]

@rooster18 to give you an idea of the problem you have is this
your estrogen E2 is 485 thats about 400% higher than NORMAL, 400%! imagine that

thats why you're depressed and feel horrible, its NOT the steroids, its the fact that you didnt start a LOG journal for the community when we asked you and you didnt add an Ai to the cycle.

do you want to feel better? start off by doing 2 things, first add aromasin 12.5mgs EOD asap and drop the deca, just stay on sustanon, if you pct now you'll get even MORE depressed
and 2nd thing you need to start a LOG journal for this cycle NOW in a NEW thread

Please post a Log Journal asap for us

Please click the anabolic forum
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/forums/anabolic-steroids-and-peds.2/
top RIGHT, you see: +POST THREAD
click that

in Title: write your cycle name, like> My _____ Cycle Log
___ = the name of your log
example: My Sustanon cycle Log
in body: write your planned cycle or cycle you doing now, your diet, training and we will help you along on your cycle

here is a good template on a workout log to follow:
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/workout-log-template.99224/

here are examples of LOG Journals

https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-recomp-cut-log-2023-2024.96694/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/mobsters-training-diary.84438/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roidrage69-log.90127
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/domestic-supply-bulking-log-25homes-max.97609/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...obolan-equipoise-tbol-contest-prep-log.97138/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...osterone-deca-primobolan-hgh-cycle-log.97978/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...igas-hgh-and-bpc157-recovery-cycle-log.97594/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...enbolone-cycle-log-let-the-gains-begin.98399/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/pigsy-new-sponsor-ugl-contest-prep-log.96779/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-2023-2024-log.95956/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...stosterone-cardarine-cutting-cycle-log.97281/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roidragewife-female-training-log.95769/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/2024-lean-bulking-cycle-log.97986/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-trt-with-deca-durabolin-log.97962/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...bodybuilding-log-masters-55-competitor.97210/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/losiol-primobolan-testosterone-log.96581/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roughy-steroid-cycle-and-training.97944/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/fatboy999-2024-cycle-log.97936/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/testosterone-equipoise-trenbolone-cycle-log.96963/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-trt-log.98284/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/16-week-testosterone-cardarine-n2guard-cycle-log.98034/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/training-log-female.90425
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...tosterone-masteron-primobolan-blast-log.98328
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/25homes-revenge-transformation-log-2023.88570/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...n-season-sponsored-by-nordic-fusion-log.89817
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-contest-prep-log.87619/

Yeah so I'm gonna give this a go, due to pin, so just gonna have the 250 sus, and I have aromasin on hand now, do I start the aromasin tonight also?, 10mg caps. Will start log tonight.
Also I have already been on cycle for i think about 4 weeks, haven't been training properly or eating properly, got up to 83 kilo when I was trying to do it properly and now I'm back down to 78, went from eating heaps to barely eating and barely training so.
How much longer should I continue my cycle?

 

[rooster18]

bro I just stay on I do Sports trt now
feel like a real man this way

Yea thing is I plan to reproduce 1 day, would like more kids

 

[s.gentz]

Yeah probz right haha, I'm gonna decide today whether to do that or come off for now

Thi is good advice. Deca can cause mental sides. I know if i'm on it for a long time i start to feel a little down,
Drop the deca. Finish out with 500mg sustanon and then PCT. You'll be fine.

 

[LevButlerov]

Yeah so I'm gonna give this a go, due to pin, so just gonna have the 250 sus, and I have aromasin on hand now, do I start the aromasin tonight also?, 10mg caps. Will start log tonight.
Also I have already been on cycle for i think about 4 weeks, haven't been training properly or eating properly, got up to 83 kilo when I was trying to do it properly and now I'm back down to 78, went from eating heaps to barely eating and barely training so.
How much longer should I continue my cycle?

@rooster18 I would start the log today

and aromasin start now asap, use it 10mgs take it
and you can go full 12 weeks on the cycle

 

[rooster18]

@rooster18 I would start the log today

and aromasin start now asap, use it 10mgs take it
and you can go full 12 weeks on the cycle

Will start the log first thing tomoro, need sleep, I will know if I have low estrogen from the aromasin yeah?

 

[rooster18]

@rooster18 I would start the log today

and aromasin start now asap, use it 10mgs take it
and you can go full 12 weeks on the cycle

I need to take the aromasin yeah? Like I dont have gyno or any signs of it and I have no bloating since I stopped eating bulk calories and stopped eating packaged food with high salt also, i plan to start eating more now im getting back to it. the aromasin is it preventative or to help with my depression, also coming off the deca are my estrogen levels maybe normalize, like I dont know much about this stuff, in your opinion I need the aromasin?

And is that another 8 weeks on cycle ad I've already wasted 4

 

[LevButlerov]

I need to take the aromasin yeah? Like I dont have gyno or any signs of it and I have no bloating since I stopped eating bulk calories and stopped eating packaged food with high salt also, i plan to start eating more now im getting back to it. the aromasin is it preventative or to help with my depression, also coming off the deca are my estrogen levels maybe normalize, like I dont know much about this stuff, in your opinion I need the aromasin?

And is that another 8 weeks on cycle ad I've already wasted 4

@rooster18 you need more than aromasin and again start your LOG journal first

but aromasin start asap your estrogen is 400% normal, so please stop asking and take aromasin ED every day for 5 days 10mgs and switch to every other day
but meanwhile where is your log?

 

[ballin2504]

Check out the perfect pct sticky

 

[25homes]

High E bad news

 

[rooster18]

Hey guys, so I'm feeling like shit atm, irritable, short fuse, low energy, low confidence. I feel like its an estrogen problem, im not getting any physical sides , no water retention or anything, libido seems to be half decent, maybe a bit lower the last couple days.
I can't tell if its high or low estrogen or what it is.
The last bloods e2 was a bit high. But was during the time of incinsitent blasting cos I ran outta gear, I went to get retested so I could figure out whats happening but the doctors won't do the retest and im too broke atm to pay for 1 so.
Any ideas guys.

 

[RoidRage69]

Hey guys, so I'm feeling like shit atm, irritable, short fuse, low energy, low confidence. I feel like its an estrogen problem, im not getting any physical sides , no water retention or anything, libido seems to be half decent, maybe a bit lower the last couple days.
I can't tell if its high or low estrogen or what it is.
The last bloods e2 was a bit high. But was during the time of incinsitent blasting cos I ran outta gear, I went to get retested so I could figure out whats happening but the doctors won't do the retest and im too broke atm to pay for 1 so.
Any ideas guys.

I guess it all comes down to is $50 to much for you to pay for a E2 test or would you rather save the $50 and feel like shit? Priorities man.

 

[rooster18]

I guess it all comes down to is $50 to much for you to pay for a E2 test or would you rather save the $50 and feel like shit? Priorities man.

I didn't think it was as cheap as this

 

[Npcclassicphysique champ]

Hey guys, so I'm feeling like shit atm, irritable, short fuse, low energy, low confidence. I feel like its an estrogen problem, im not getting any physical sides , no water retention or anything, libido seems to be half decent, maybe a bit lower the last couple days.
I can't tell if its high or low estrogen or what it is.
The last bloods e2 was a bit high. But was during the time of incinsitent blasting cos I ran outta gear, I went to get retested so I could figure out whats happening but the doctors won't do the retest and im too broke atm to pay for 1 so.
Any ideas guys.

can you please update your log?
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-come-back-sustanon-log.100651/
we need to see what you're doing more to help you bro

@rooster18

 

[rooster18]

can you please update your log?
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-come-back-sustanon-log.100651/
we need to see what you're doing more to help you bro

@rooster18

Nothing much to update, im away again for 2 weeks, unable to really train, im just gonna start coming off cycle when I get home and wait til im more settled and ready to commit to a proper prepared cycle on the next 1.
I was back home for 3 weeks, started getting everything right. Now im away again, then when I get home I've got my son for tye school holidays and then im moving interstate after that, so im all over the place right now. Im just staying on so i don't have bad effects while im away.

Plan is before the next cycle to be back into training properly and eating properly first, and then to plan the rest with you guys, have the money for bloods etc and everything I need for the cycle prior to starting the cycle and obviously log the whole cycle from start to finish.

This cycle wasn't planned it was impulsive, had no support at the start and then a series of life events made it unsettled and unbalance my eating and training. Once I've moved and that and settled into my new life there won't be anymore distractions like that...

Anyways im just trying to sort out how im feeling for now cos something feels off.

Think I might go without aromasin for a bit see how I feel.

Im on a small ammount of aromasin.

But im also on a low dose of sus
250mg twice a week

 

[rooster18]

can you please update your log?
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-come-back-sustanon-log.100651/
we need to see what you're doing more to help you bro

@rooster18

I thought I was posting in my log, will post on my log

 

[Npcclassicphysique champ]

I thought I was posting in my log, will post on my log

this is your log thread
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-come-back-sustanon-log.100651/