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Approved Log My Cut Cycle Log: Road to 200lbs or less! My first cut ever.

Super clean food here great job bro!

I am all in the on fasting now. I can do 36 hours easy and it works like magic I'd love for you to try it. It will be harder for you since you're not OMAD but mentally you are strong, you can do it!

Just make sure your lungs are all cleared up good and proper first don't stress the body while you're fighting an upper respiratory tract issue.
What is OMAD?
 
@toddthelineman hey do u fast and working in the field on the days you fast if you do?
I’ve never fasted intentionally, but I have worked without food for very long hard days. With my appetite, it just sucks basically. I’m be cranky but on days like that the pace is really high and it might be too hot to eat and work that hard without puking. I did have a guy a few years ago that did it. He lost 100 pounds in a little less than a year. When I was carnivore it was easy to eat one huge hunk of beef at night and that was it. Like a 3 pound + chick roast cooked like a steak and maybe bacon and eggs too
 
Wednesday:
Training: see attached

Diet:
Daily supplements and meds
Meal after training: 6 eggs, 60 gram protein shake 2 bagels
.snack: protein bar
Dinner: rice and 1 lb of chicken thighs
not bad but still we need veggies :D
Thursday:
Training: see attached
Diet:
Daily supplements and meds
Meal after training: 6 eggs and 60 gram protein shake
Dinner: 1 lb of chicken thighs and rice.
Good day thats a lot of chicken needs veggies :D

@toddthelineman hey do u fast and working in the field on the days you fast if you do?
You should do the fasting on your day off @kcates
 
I’ve never fasted intentionally, but I have worked without food for very long hard days. With my appetite, it just sucks basically. I’m be cranky but on days like that the pace is really high and it might be too hot to eat and work that hard without puking. I did have a guy a few years ago that did it. He lost 100 pounds in a little less than a year. When I was carnivore it was easy to eat one huge hunk of beef at night and that was it. Like a 3 pound + chick roast cooked like a steak and maybe bacon and eggs too
I only eat one meal before work and one after now. Trying to work labors all day with out food for 25 hours sounds like a horrible day at work with headaches and dragging on the job. I agree summer time it don't feel good to eat on the heat. Just drink lots of water. This time of year I don't need the water so much so I have to make myself drink so I don't get sick later in the day. Just like to hear from someone who does construction and fast. I want to be able to pick there brain.
 
I don't get a day off right now. I am working 7 days a week. My one day off Sunday I am working on my mother inlaws house putting it back together.
We can test to see 7th day sunday an OMAD where you eat 1 meal and fast 24 hours between times if possible. @kcates
 
Maybe we will see maybe when I am not working so hard. Sounds like a shitty day at work to me. I already get plenty of those without fasting.
lets try to get it on your lower work days @kcates
 
I only eat one meal before work and one after now. Trying to work labors all day with out food for 25 hours sounds like a horrible day at work with headaches and dragging on the job. I agree summer time it don't feel good to eat on the heat. Just drink lots of water. This time of year I don't need the water so much so I have to make myself drink so I don't get sick later in the day. Just like to hear from someone who does construction and fast. I want to be able to pick there brain.
The headaches and lack of energy go away, but I think a key feature of how I was able to do it was the high fat zero carb way I was eating. I eat plenty of carbs now and I get super hangry. Lately I can tell I’m much less insulin sensitive. There’s no way I can go very long without food. I literally start shaking. I was able to power through it the other day because we just couldn’t stop. There was miles to pull and a storm coming. Absolutely had to get it done. I was not sure I was going to make it really but something kicked into gear and I was fine
 
lets try to get it on your lower work days @kcates
I don't have a lower work days right now. I have grind until I am tired and have to go home. Then I go eat and go to bed. Repeat. I can't keep up right now with work that's why I am working 7 days a week. While running like this I am not going to try and fast. Right now my projection I won't slow down until February and that is if I don't get more work awarded to me which I will. I may get Sundays back mid January but then I have my own house to catch up on Sundays because I have put all my own stuff off until then. I got a list of things to do at my house; pressure washing, paint house, cut trees down on the back of the property, honey do list like hang curtains and rebuild the fire pit. That's life and I wish I had easy relaxing days but that's not in the cards right now. I do get Christmas off but I am eating that day. Lol
 
The headaches and lack of energy go away, but I think a key feature of how I was able to do it was the high fat zero carb way I was eating. I eat plenty of carbs now and I get super hangry. Lately I can tell I’m much less insulin sensitive. There’s no way I can go very long without food. I literally start shaking. I was able to power through it the other day because we just couldn’t stop. There was miles to pull and a storm coming. Absolutely had to get it done. I was not sure I was going to make it really but something kicked into gear and I was fine
Yeah I get the same way. I can eat my big protein breakfast and go 8 hours and have a snack in there and then eat my big dinner. I can't go all day and work with out fuel or I just die out after lunch. I tried just going no carb and I would die after lunch. Maybe if I had a desk job that would be more feasible. I remember when I wasn't so busy and had weekends off In the beginning of using Mounjaro I would go almost all day without eating and just realize I hadn't eaten all day and would just go eat something just to eat something but working full speed my body tells me when I am running on fumes and it's not pleasant for sure. Usually I know about 5 o'clock if I miss my snack or forget to bring it.
 
Do you do construction and fast?
I'm a "retired" Canadian seconded special operator and was also SWAT cop who can still take the odd contract here and there, so I did do construction in the sense that I was the clean up crew for bad guys yes.

I fast often now. I do OMAD so I always fast 23 hours each day using ACV and psyllium as "meal#1" then OMAD. If I skip an OMAD then I fast 36 hours by having a small breakfast at hour 36 hour mark. This will all be in my 2026 log.
 
I'm a "retired" Canadian seconded special operator and was also SWAT cop who can still take the odd contract here and there, so I did do construction in the sense that I was the clean up crew for bad guys yes.

I fast often now. I do OMAD so I always fast 23 hours each day using ACV and psyllium as "meal#1" then OMAD. If I skip an OMAD then I fast 36 hours by having a small breakfast at hour 36 hour mark. This will all be in my 2026 log.
I know you use to do that. I use to do OMAD when I was in my 20's and early 30's doing construction but now I. My 50' s not seeing it.
 
I know you use to do that. I use to do OMAD when I was in my 20's and early 30's doing construction but now I. My 50' s not seeing it.
Everyone is different. I'm turning 50 and it's made life and my diet that much easier for me.
 
I don't have a lower work days right now. I have grind until I am tired and have to go home. Then I go eat and go to bed. Repeat. I can't keep up right now with work that's why I am working 7 days a week. While running like this I am not going to try and fast. Right now my projection I won't slow down until February and that is if I don't get more work awarded to me which I will. I may get Sundays back mid January but then I have my own house to catch up on Sundays because I have put all my own stuff off until then. I got a list of things to do at my house; pressure washing, paint house, cut trees down on the back of the property, honey do list like hang curtains and rebuild the fire pit. That's life and I wish I had easy relaxing days but that's not in the cards right now. I do get Christmas off but I am eating that day. Lol
we can plan for feb for the fasting in that case :D @kcates
 
are you 50 doing physical labor everyday on the OMAD diet now?
once your body gets used to metabolizing via 1 meal yes you can do well OMAD and physical labor
 
are you 50 doing physical labor everyday on the OMAD diet now?
I had been yes. Moving granite countertops into new homes in new subdivisions... some of the hardest work I've ever done and I was 48-49 yrs old at the time. If I felt hypo (rarely) or needed a boost I'd have some beef jerky handy or a protein bar, it was the most ripped I looked and way more than now and that's probably why I'm now falling in love with fasting again because that's what I had been doing with OMAD and a physical job and I never connected the dots that I was doing cardio all day fasted.
 
I had been yes. Moving granite countertops into new homes in new subdivisions... some of the hardest work I've ever done and I was 48-49 yrs old at the time. If I felt hypo (rarely) or needed a boost I'd have some beef jerky handy or a protein bar, it was the most ripped I looked and way more than now and that's probably why I'm now falling in love with fasting again because that's what I had been doing with OMAD and a physical job and I never connected the dots that I was doing cardio all day fasted.
While doing that work you stayed OMAD 7 days a week or did you do it on just certain days? Do you pound down all 300 grams of protein in that one meal? Then what about your supplements specially like psyllium husk do you taken in all 35 grams at that one meal or if you are high creatine (20 gram) do you pound down all that at the one meal or can supplements be taken during throug out the day? Does it have to be dinner as my one meal or could it be breakfast?
 
While doing that work you stayed OMAD 7 days a week or did you do it on just certain days? Do you pound down all 300 grams of protein in that one meal? Then what about your supplements specially like psyllium husk do you taken in all 35 grams at that one meal or if you are high creatine (20 gram) do you pound down all that at the one meal or can supplements be taken during throug out the day? Does it have to be dinner as my one meal or could it be breakfast?
Ya bro and I was doing it at the beginning of my log too then got up to 6000 cals and had to switch to 2MAD.

With the job I retired from pushing yourself under all circumstances was the norm and expected with no complaining so I kinda got used to it the 23/1 fasting including force feeding and ignoring my feelings of my stomach hurting.

With OMAD you do it when it suits you. I would pound between 500-800g protein by eating something like 3 steaks, a protein shake, an avocado with 2 tomatoes and was on low carb in my log. Then I had to switch to 2MAD because calories were too high to literally fit in my stomach (I couldn't sit down for a while and my girl, HarleyGirl, would get pissed I couldn't sit on the couch to watch Vikings or Lioness). For me, I would workout around 5-6pm and OMAD at 7pm and resign myself to the fact I was fucked until morning with a whale belly. I would wake up fine with everything digested due to the psyllium, ACV (apple cider vinegar), and probiotics.

Psyllium would be 20g with ACV-with mother and 20-30g creatine down that pre-OMAD. Post OMAD I'd take probiotics (3 caps of Digest Gold brand - the bottle says take 1 so I usually double what the bottle says, or more).

I run on caffeine and adrenaline so I only get about 5 hours sleep (with a daytime nap) and the high dose creatine keeps me sharp. I noticed a massive difference once I went from 5g creatine to 20+g. Basically for creatine I use the protein whey scooper and I use the creatine scooper (5g) for my psyllium and put 4 of those into a cup with gatorade zero and the ACV with the creatine and slam it down. I was also adding taurine but have removed that until I start my next blast.

Hope that helped. Are you thinking of OMAD? Makes life simpler for sure but it's a mental battle with your ghrelin vs. leptin so you have to conquer the mind and tell your leptin to shove it!
 
I am thinking if I did OMAD I would do it am to am. That way I get a good feeding before working all day. I will try it one day see how it goes. I just can't drag at work. For me I don't get paid by the hour. I get paid based on how fast production is done. I don't do any caffeine to help push me through when I drag. I can't drag at work I need to be full throttle to maximize profits. I do 2MAD right now and that suits me very well.
 
Today I am sick from this upper respiratory. I feel drained. I almost turned around and went home from the gym parking lot. I sucked it up and went in. I went lite on deadlifts but followed the rest of my pull workout. It's going to be a tough day. Wish I could just go back to bed. But not today!
Great way of getting it done man 💪
 
I am thinking if I did OMAD I would do it am to am. That way I get a good feeding before working all day. I will try it one day see how it goes. I just can't drag at work. For me I don't get paid by the hour. I get paid based on how fast production is done. I don't do any caffeine to help push me through when I drag. I can't drag at work I need to be full throttle to maximize profits. I do 2MAD right now and that suits me very well.
AM OMAD works :D try it out and see.
If you have to drag, why don't you use some caffeine? not a lot but some wont hurt imo @kcates
 
Today and opportunity opened up. I am not working in the field today because I have to meet with a customer at 230 to go over the project concerning her design before we proceed. I get the day to do errands and office work. While at the gym this morning it dawned on me that I could try an OMAD today. So I ate my breakfast at 8 am was finished by 830. Here we go. No more food until tomorrow after the gym. I ate my normal breakfast and had a 60 gram protein shake to go along with it.
 
I fell off on logging all my daily training and meals. I think Thursday of last week was my last log. Here are my training records for Friday and Saturday. Sunday I rested from the gym. Also some pics of meals I ate during that time.
 

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Monday:
Training: see attached
Diet:
Daily supplements and meds
Meal after training: 12 ounces of ground beef, 7 ounces of white rice and 6 eggs.
No snack
Dinner: 1lb of carnitas pork meat, 3 no carb tortillas, and some onion.
 

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I am not going to use caffeine again. I have an addictive personality. 1 dose and I will be back doing it like I was. I am actually starting an OMAD today. I am going to make another post about it.
fair I get it :D good call
 
Today and opportunity opened up. I am not working in the field today because I have to meet with a customer at 230 to go over the project concerning her design before we proceed. I get the day to do errands and office work. While at the gym this morning it dawned on me that I could try an OMAD today. So I ate my breakfast at 8 am was finished by 830. Here we go. No more food until tomorrow after the gym. I ate my normal breakfast and had a 60 gram protein shake to go along with it.
perfect lets do it :D
I fell off on logging all my daily training and meals. I think Thursday of last week was my last log. Here are my training records for Friday and Saturday. Sunday I rested from the gym. Also some pics of meals I ate during that time.

Monday:
Training: see attached
Diet:
Daily supplements and meds
Meal after training: 12 ounces of ground beef, 7 ounces of white rice and 6 eggs.
No snack
Dinner: 1lb of carnitas pork meat, 3 no carb tortillas, and some onion.
following :D
Tuesday:
Training: see attached
Diet:
Daily supplements and meds
OMAD: 6 eggs, 6 ounces of white rice and 12 ounces of carnitas pork, 60 gram protein shake with water.
that's a big omad meal perfect :D @kcates lets see how you feel
 
So far I don't really like it. I want to eat something. I am not hungry just mentally feel like I need something. So I am going to bed early.
drink some psyllium husk and go to bed, it will take time to adjust @kcates
 
Tuesday:
Training: see attached
Diet:
Daily supplements and meds
OMAD: 6 eggs, 6 ounces of white rice and 12 ounces of carnitas pork, 60 gram protein shake with water.
@kcates OMAD is a great way to boost insulin sensitivity. it really does work great!
 
Tuesday:
Training: see attached
Diet:
Daily supplements and meds
OMAD: 6 eggs, 6 ounces of white rice and 12 ounces of carnitas pork, 60 gram protein shake with water.
I hope it works for u brother 🙏
 
Ever since the podcast I was on and you ask me if I pee a lot. I been monitoring it and think I do. Maybe it's because this time of year I am not sweeting as much cause it's cool here in North Florida.
well those fat cells you are burning have to leave somehow. when you don't sweat the best way is via urine
 
I hope it works for u brother 🙏
If I am on a GLP-1 and trying to bulk would I go off OMAD to get my protein intake. I don't see how someone gets 300 grams
well those fat cells you are burning have to leave somehow. when you don't sweat the best way is via urine
Yeah that is what I was thinking. I am getting up like 3 times a night to piss and have to as soon as I get up. During the day I do often as well.
 
If I am on a GLP-1 and trying to bulk would I go off OMAD to get my protein intake. I don't see how someone gets 300 grams
Yeah that is what I was thinking. I am getting up like 3 times a night to piss and have to as soon as I get up. During the day I do often as well.
If you are wanting to bulk that glp1 is going to hinder the bulk plus curb appetite you in theory would be making a bulk harder than it needs to be, id personally cycle off the glp1 while bulking and when wanting to cut reintroduce the glp1 with a calorie deficit into the fold.

Omad would tough on a bulk imagine trying to eat 3-4 clean calories in one sitting you would probably end up throwing it up.

Id try 5 medium size meals a day that are packed with calories split into an 8hr window for eating.

Keep it simple and basic and u will be amazed at the results you achieve brother.

Hope that helps 💪
 
Tuesday:
Training: see attached
Diet:
Daily supplements and meds
OMAD: 6 eggs, 6 ounces of white rice and 12 ounces of carnitas pork, 60 gram protein shake with water.
Bros, this is a simple way to eat, for sure. One meal a day. I've done that before. My wife does it as well. A lot. She's Japanese, that's really a way a lot of them eat @kcates
 
drink some psyllium husk and go to bed, it will take time to adjust @kcates
Today I woke up and I am eating my first meal. I am surprised I can't eat that much today. I figured I be starving. I could only eat half of what I normally do. I am going to put down my protein shake and try this again since I have a light day but I got to grill up a bunch of pork chops for the family tonight so I may have to try them out. We will see if I can resist until morning after.
 
If you are wanting to bulk that glp1 is going to hinder the bulk plus curb appetite you in theory would be making a bulk harder than it needs to be, id personally cycle off the glp1 while bulking and when wanting to cut reintroduce the glp1 with a calorie deficit into the fold.

Omad would tough on a bulk imagine trying to eat 3-4 clean calories in one sitting you would probably end up throwing it up.

Id try 5 medium size meals a day that are packed with calories split into an 8hr window for eating.

Keep it simple and basic and u will be amazed at the results you achieve brother.

Hope that helps 💪
That's what I figured. Actually last bulk I did I was on 7mg of Mounjaro for a year and ate 2 meals a day with minimum 100 grams of protein per meal. Then I would throw in 1-2 shakes either with the meal or in-between or before bed. That works well for me. Also I can't cycle off the glp because it controls my diabetes. I can only reduce the amount that I am taking.
 
Bros, this is a simple way to eat, for sure. One meal a day. I've done that before. My wife does it as well. A lot. She's Japanese, that's really a way a lot of them eat @kcates
I told my son if he gets stationed in Okinawa he should find him a good Asian girl to marry there. The pool for good women his age here in america has gotten smaller.
 
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If I am on a GLP-1 and trying to bulk would I go off OMAD to get my protein intake. I don't see how someone gets 300 grams
Yeah that is what I was thinking. I am getting up like 3 times a night to piss and have to as soon as I get up. During the day I do often as well.
you can piss on a ketone strip and confirm that
 
I told my son if he gets stationed in Okinawa he should find him a good Asian girl to marry there. The pool for good women his age here in america has gotten smaller.
bros better advice for him is not get married at all ha!
 
Tuesday:
Training: see attached
Diet:
Daily supplements and meds
OMAD: 6 eggs, 6 ounces of white rice and 12 ounces of carnitas pork, 60 gram protein shake with water.
The training is definitely good, and I like how you're doing the one meal a day thing. @kcates definitely takes a lot of discipline.
 
That's what I figured. Actually last bulk I did I was on 7mg of Mounjaro for a year and ate 2 meals a day with minimum 100 grams of protein per meal. Then I would throw in 1-2 shakes either with the meal or in-between or before bed. That works well for me. Also I can't cycle off the glp because it controls my diabetes. I can only reduce the amount that I am taking.
Well if it is for medical purposes then dont mess with it brother id rather see u safe and healthy than mess with the medication controlling something like that.

You could look into mass gainer shakes as supplementation in-between meals its like u said with the protein shakes, these mass shakes have mote calories a shake typically 500 calories for one serving, good amount of carbs as well, so that is also an option as you need the carbs to grow and funnel recovery from pushing with the bulk.
 
Tuesday:
Training: see attached
Diet:
Daily supplements and meds
OMAD: 6 eggs, 6 ounces of white rice and 12 ounces of carnitas pork, 60 gram protein shake with water.
@kcates OMAD is a great tactic. a lot of people can benefit from it. that is perfect!
 
Tuesday:
Training: see attached
Diet:
Daily supplements and meds
OMAD: 6 eggs, 6 ounces of white rice and 12 ounces of carnitas pork, 60 gram protein shake with water.
The one meal a day thing is something I used to hate back in the day, but man, after I tried it, I could definitely tell I had good energy and I was stronger. It's amazing how effective it can be for a lot of people. @kcates
 
Today I woke up and I am eating my first meal. I am surprised I can't eat that much today. I figured I be starving. I could only eat half of what I normally do. I am going to put down my protein shake and try this again since I have a light day but I got to grill up a bunch of pork chops for the family tonight so I may have to try them out. We will see if I can resist until morning after.
See how you feel as the day goes, but if you eating AM you should do a bigger meal if you staying on OMAD @kcates
@HarleyGuy @SPOONMAN366 this is OMAD
 
you can piss on a ketone strip and confirm that
Well if it is for medical purposes then dont mess with it brother id rather see u safe and healthy than mess with the medication controlling something like that. You could look into mass gainer shakes as supplementation in-between meals its like u said with the protein shakes, these mass shakes have mote calories a shake typically 500 calories for one serving, good amount of carbs as well, so that is also an option as you need the carbs to grow and funnel recovery from pushing with the bulk.
Well if it is for medical purposes then dont mess with it brother id rather see u safe and healthy than mess with the medication controlling something like that. You could look into mass gainer shakes as supplementation in-between meals its like u said with the protein shakes, these mass shakes have mote calories a shake typically 500 calories for one serving, good amount of carbs as well, so that is also an option as you need the carbs to grow and funnel recovery from pushing with the bulk.
See how you feel as the day goes, but if you eating AM you should do a bigger meal if you staying on OMAD @kcates
@HarleyGuy @SPOONMAN366 this is OMAD
Sometimes I just can't eat that much. I ended up eating dinner. I couldn't help myself after cooking all these pork chops. I wasn't really hungry but they smelled so good. I went ahead and got my protein in. Lol
 

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Sometimes I just can't eat that much. I ended up eating dinner. I couldn't help myself after cooking all these pork chops. I wasn't really hungry but they smelled so good. I went ahead and got my protein in. Lol
so it wasn't omad today? :D @kcates
but the porkchops do look good
 
Tuesday:
Training: see attached
Diet:
Daily supplements and meds
OMAD: 6 eggs, 6 ounces of white rice and 12 ounces of carnitas pork, 60 gram protein shake with water.
@kcates omad can be definitely be very beneficial. Can’t wait to see how it treats you.
 
Nope, tried didn't make it. I will try again days I am off for the holidays.
there will be another day :D
Wednesday:
Training: see attached
Diet: daily supplements and meds
Meal after training: 6 eggs, 1 lb of pork and 7 ounces of rice. I only ate 2/3. 60 gram protein shake
Dinner: 19 ounces of boneless pork chops.
good food @kcates but no training there attached
 
Who is a pro at being stable at 1 leg deadlifts? I been at these for awhile now and still stumble some. Not sure if I am doing something wrong or just the stabilizer muscles are slow to learn.
I find most clients have a hard time doing them and they put pressure on the knee too much @kcates
have you tried just standing on 1 leg and lifting other leg forward and holding it? lets say 30 secs and switch legs
 
I find most clients have a hard time doing them and they put pressure on the knee too much @kcates
have you tried just standing on 1 leg and lifting other leg forward and holding it? lets say 30 secs and switch legs
you saying like a leg lift or do you mean like lift it out and squat down like i see people on social media? I can do the single deadlift with no issues its just as i add weight i start to get squirrely with my balance. Not sure if i am grabbing the bar in the wrong place or I just have moved up in weight to fast.
 
attached is my next 4 week phase starting Monday. I have never worked in the 20 rep ranges so this will be new and fun to expereince.
 

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you saying like a leg lift or do you mean like lift it out and squat down like i see people on social media? I can do the single deadlift with no issues its just as i add weight i start to get squirrely with my balance. Not sure if i am grabbing the bar in the wrong place or I just have moved up in weight to fast.
I'm not sure what you're seeing, I think standing on 1 leg is my Q, can you do that for 1 min with leg lifed up in the air? @kcates
 
attached is my next 4 week phase starting Monday. I have never worked in the 20 rep ranges so this will be new and fun to expereince.
15-20 rep range is a lot of fun. It's a great test of will power. Unlike going really heavy you actually have more in the tank then you realize a lot of the time. It's more about pushing through the pain then digging in to complete another rep.
 
attached is my next 4 week phase starting Monday. I have never worked in the 20 rep ranges so this will be new and fun to expereince.
I am actually becoming a fan of the higher rep range stuff - the pump is nice
 
15-20 rep range is a lot of fun. It's a great test of will power. Unlike going really heavy you actually have more in the tank then you realize a lot of the time. It's more about pushing through the pain then digging in to complete another rep.
💯 thats 20 rep range will teach you how to dig deeeepppp
 
I did my first workout going into the 15-20 rep range with AMRAP on last exercise for each body part. Man that was brutal. Best pumps ever. I have never felt pumps like that or maybe I have never ever felt a real pump since probably my teenage years.
 

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I did my first workout going into the 15-20 rep range with AMRAP on last exercise for each body part. Man that was brutal. Best pumps ever. I have never felt pumps like that or maybe I have never ever felt a real pump since probably my teenage years.
This was so satisfying to read! Glad you're loving the AMRAP pumps bro!
 
I did my first workout going into the 15-20 rep range with AMRAP on last exercise for each body part. Man that was brutal. Best pumps ever. I have never felt pumps like that or maybe I have never ever felt a real pump since probably my teenage years.
its the best pumps and best muscle bellies you'll see :D @kcates
 
Basically anyone else came here to listen to me learn about HGH let's continue. When your seeing this saturation happening what is the blood work looking like? Is it just like maybe fluctuating in the 10's of points instead of the hundreds? Once you hit saturation do you always get sides or do some people hit saturation and not have sides?⁰
 
Basically anyone else came here to listen to me learn about HGH let's continue. When your seeing this saturation happening what is the blood work looking like? Is it just like maybe fluctuating in the 10's of points instead of the hundreds? Once you hit saturation do you always get sides or do some people hit saturation and not have sides?⁰
It really depends on the person with HGH @kcates
at your age you can use hgh and its a beneficial but low dose is always smart 1-2 IUs and we move up from there
 
Basically anyone else came here to listen to me learn about HGH let's continue. When your seeing this saturation happening what is the blood work looking like? Is it just like maybe fluctuating in the 10's of points instead of the hundreds? Once you hit saturation do you always get sides or do some people hit saturation and not have sides?⁰
@kcates HGH is not like using anabolic steroids. HGH is a pulse effect. It will not have the same type of saturation as what you're thinking. It's a pulse.
 
I have done amraps before it's the 4 sets of 20 reps leading up to the AMRAP that is pumping all that blood up in there!
That’s what crazy about WHEN you go your amrap. Berserker mode. Love it
 
More on @kcates questions about GH from another log.

https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...male-offseason-log.107976/page-2#post-1927473

I get what you're asking. There is such thing as your IGF1 reaching it's max levels no matter how much more GH you run. Now, what this GH dose is is entirely different for everyone and you'd have to use bloodwork like you mentioned to find your GH threshold to keep IGF redlining at it's maximum. I wouldn't suggest doing this over a long period of time because we've all heard of "diminishing returns". You'll have to walk around with gummy bears too because you could find yourself going hypo too. If you really wanted to spike your IGF1 you can pin your GH IM instead of subQ and if you get bloods about 3 hours after your IGF1 will be way higher.

I did an experiment with high dose GH for two nights and it went bad (just ask @LevButlerov - I was given proper shit too which I deserved).

I find, and this is very in general, that the sweet spot for males that aren't pros is 4iu. You'll get all you need out of 4iu of GH but you'd have to start at 1iu and work your way up. This has been confirmed with my own bloodwork and 5 dudes I'm working with in real life (one of which is one my sponsees in AA) and all their IGF1 was plenty high on 4iu and they're in the late 30's to early 50's.
 
Basically anyone else came here to listen to me learn about HGH let's continue. When your seeing this saturation happening what is the blood work looking like? Is it just like maybe fluctuating in the 10's of points instead of the hundreds? Once you hit saturation do you always get sides or do some people hit saturation and not have sides?⁰
adding hgh just adds to what your body already spits out. it isn't like taking testosterone and shutting your own test down @kcates
 
Basically anyone else came here to listen to me learn about HGH let's continue. When your seeing this saturation happening what is the blood work looking like? Is it just like maybe fluctuating in the 10's of points instead of the hundreds? Once you hit saturation do you always get sides or do some people hit saturation and not have sides?⁰
the nice thing about HGH is you don't have to stick to a strategy. You can start and stop it at your leisure. @kcates You don't have to cycle it. You can stay on it. Just don't run too much. That is going to be the common denominator.
 
Basically anyone else came here to listen to me learn about HGH let's continue. When your seeing this saturation happening what is the blood work looking like? Is it just like maybe fluctuating in the 10's of points instead of the hundreds? Once you hit saturation do you always get sides or do some people hit saturation and not have sides?⁰
@kcates the key with HGH in my opinion is not to run too much. You can run 1-2 IU's per day. That is good. If you run too much, you'll end up being insulin resistant, and that's not what you want.
 
Basically anyone else came here to listen to me learn about HGH let's continue. When your seeing this saturation happening what is the blood work looking like? Is it just like maybe fluctuating in the 10's of points instead of the hundreds? Once you hit saturation do you always get sides or do some people hit saturation and not have sides?⁰
Bros, I got a lot of respect for HGH. It's very different than steroids though. You should also look into the other peptides like GHRP2 and GHRP6 or ipamorelin. These are also good options. @kcates
 
I definitely suggest lower dosages for HGH and longer term use. For most, 1-2iu per day is plenty. Unless it is a pro level bodybuilder that is looking for massive gains.
 
Here is the training for the last 6 days I haven't posted.
Diet:
Daily supplements and meds
Meal after training typically 6 eggs, 12 ounces of meat and 6 ounces of rice. Lately I have not been doing the rice just a pound of meat and some cheese for flavor. Today I had 6 eggs and 60 gram protein shake. We are about to do Christmas and travel so I didn't want to food prep food and then it just sit in the fridge until next week.
 

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Here is the training for the last 6 days I haven't posted.
Diet:
Daily supplements and meds
Meal after training typically 6 eggs, 12 ounces of meat and 6 ounces of rice. Lately I have not been doing the rice just a pound of meat and some cheese for flavor. Today I had 6 eggs and 60 gram protein shake. We are about to do Christmas and travel so I didn't want to food prep food and then it just sit in the fridge until next week.

Also I have snapped shots when I remember to of my food still. Couldn't attach all of it to the last post.
Good high volume training :D @kcates, how have you been feeling?
and love the food pics, high protein!

@BeMe @HarleyGuy @s.gentz
@Allupfromhere @Pigsy @Dreamer @Freki @R.AP
@waggat @Yuri @rizzlekdizzle @Grumpy
@coolguy77711
 
Good high volume training :D @kcates, how have you been feeling?
and love the food pics, high protein!

@BeMe @HarleyGuy @s.gentz
@Allupfromhere @Pigsy @Dreamer @Freki @R.AP
@waggat @Yuri @rizzlekdizzle @Grumpy
@coolguy77711
Honestly, I feel fine during the day but sleep has been disruptive lately. Waking up around 3 am again. I am going to continue the course this week and see if it keeps happening then if so I am going to cut back on volume and see if that fixes it. Other then that getting some soreness like in my glutes and my arms but goes away next day. I like the workouts. I only have 4 weeks in total for this phase. After this 4 weeks I am going to do a different program and bring back cardio. It's will be a program with just 2-3 exercises a day but 6 days a week. Suppose to be able to knock it out in 15 minutes if u stick to really short rest periods.
 
Honestly, I feel fine during the day but sleep has been disruptive lately. Waking up around 3 am again. I am going to continue the course this week and see if it keeps happening then if so I am going to cut back on volume and see if that fixes it. Other then that getting some soreness like in my glutes and my arms but goes away next day. I like the workouts. I only have 4 weeks in total for this phase. After this 4 weeks I am going to do a different program and bring back cardio. It's will be a program with just 2-3 exercises a day but 6 days a week. Suppose to be able to knock it out in 15 minutes if u stick to really short rest periods.
Good to hear on the training but sleep is an issue, do you take sleep aids now? @kcates
on the training block I would go for 6 weeks not 4 imo
 
Good to hear on the training but sleep is an issue, do you take sleep aids now?
Yes, I take magnesium bisglycinate in the morning and glycinate in the evening. I also am taking 200 mgL-thienine and 3 gram of glycine before bed. I also take my CoQ10 before bed.

@kcates
on the training block I would go for 6 weeks not 4 imo
I am doing a 12 week program that was divided into 4 week phases I started phase 3 this week. I am going to continue the program as planned. I have some other stuff I want to try which I am excited to try and really want to quit what I am doing now and do it but I got to see to the end what I start. The next program will allow me time to bring back the cardio and more mobility work. All in good time though.
 
Honestly, I feel fine during the day but sleep has been disruptive lately. Waking up around 3 am again. I am going to continue the course this week and see if it keeps happening then if so I am going to cut back on volume and see if that fixes it.
This could be your volume bro, which is high. Your CNS is on fight or flight mode and is operating on overdrive.
 
This could be your volume bro, which is high. Your CNS is on fight or flight mode and is operating on overdrive.
Yeah I am think it may be as well. Last night I actually slept 5
5 hours before I woke up. Then had to get up 30 minutes later. I went to bed late due to festivities at my wife's mom's side of the family. Then had to do some prep for Christmas morning. I can't really can't count this night. See how I do tonight. This week cause of the holiday and travel is a crazy week I figure I would see how the whole week goes before I start changing things. Rest of the week I will be sleeping in a different bed at my parents house. I did foam roll my back before bed last night and I think that helped some.
 
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