Approved Log First Cycle Log from Italy - Testosterone Primobolan

[Kopite67]

yes for now its enough 5mgs 2x/week

its always a toss up you have to guess many times with bloods before you get them

i like week 3/6/9/12

high e2 has a ton of sides actually

@BeMe @HarleyGuy @s.gentz
@Allupfromhere @Pigsy @Dreamer @Freki @R.AP
@waggat @Coolguy @Trenhead3cc @Kopite67

Good questions brother. I have nothing to add to what @LevButlerov has outlined. Don't guess what your blood work up will be, just go get them as they may well be critical in your eventual decision making

 

[Pepty]

yes for now its enough 5mgs 2x/week

its always a toss up you have to guess many times with bloods before you get them

i like week 3/6/9/12

high e2 has a ton of sides actually

@BeMe @HarleyGuy @s.gentz
@Allupfromhere @Pigsy @Dreamer @Freki @R.AP
@waggat @Coolguy @Trenhead3cc @Kopite67

Thank you, as always!

I'll start aromasin 5mg on monday and thursday and plan bloodwork for the later next week!

In addition to having virgin muscle, I think I injected the oil too quickly; now the light pain has moved to my knee (it's much milder than at the beginning, though), tomorrow second pin i will try to inject it slowly and heating up the oil with a hair dryer.

Used 25g 25mm to inject, this is the injection site fyi.

 

[Pepty]

Good questions brother. I have nothing to add to what @LevButlerov has outlined. Don't guess what your blood work up will be, just go get them as they may well be critical in your eventual decision making

Oh i didn't see your reply, sure brother thanks for the input!

 

[waggat]

Hey everyone,

I just started my first cycle two days and I’m weighing two different philosophies regarding AI management. I’d love to get your take on this.

Baseline Bloods: E2 is at 24.29 pg/mL (Range: <15 - 31.5).

The Strategy Dilemma :

@LevButlerov suggested that I run a very low dose of Aromasin (Exemestane) from the start (5mg or 10mg split 2 times per week?). I’m definitely not trying to go against his advice, as I highly respect his experience, but I’m curious about the trade-offs and I think this discussion could be helpful for others in my position.

I’m torn between two approaches:

Option 1: Proactive (Start Now).

The benefit would be staying “ahead of the curve,” preventing massive water retention and blood pressure spikes / estradiol raising too much before they even start to do that.


Option 2: Reactive (Wait and See).

The benefit here is self-knowledge. By waiting until Week 4-5 to run bloods without an AI, I would learn exactly how my body aromatizes 500mg of Test.

My Questions:

1. Given my baseline E2 (24.29 pg/mL), do you think 5mg on Monday and 5mg on Thursday (10mg total) is enough to keep E2 in the high-normal range without crushing it? Or is 5mg total per week a better “micro-dose”?

2. For those who waited for bloods on their first cycle: was the “self-knowledge” worth the potential high E2 side effects (bloating, mood, etc.)?

3. When is the most accurate time for these bloods? Is Week 3 too early, or should I wait for the ester to reach steady state at Week 4-5?

I really want to maximize the anabolic benefits of having E2 on the higher side, but I don’t want it to spiral out of control

Thanks for the help!

What's your cycle? I saw at the start of the log you say 250 test and primo. Did you get primo?

I don't see an issue with just going low dose aromasin and then seeing where that leaves you (assuming you don't have primo).

Thank you, as always!

I'll start aromasin 5mg on monday and thursday and plan bloodwork for the later next week!

In addition to having virgin muscle, I think I injected the oil too quickly; now the light pain has moved to my knee (it's much milder than at the beginning, though), tomorrow second pin i will try to inject it slowly and heating up the oil with a hair dryer.

Used 25g 25mm to inject, this is the injection site fyi.

Can you just pin glutes instead? I prefer ventro-glute.

 

[Pepty]

What's your cycle? I saw at the start of the log you say 250 test and primo. Did you get primo?

I don't see an issue with just going low dose aromasin and then seeing where that leaves you (assuming you don't have primo).

Can you just pin glutes instead? I prefer ventro-glute.

Hey!

No, at the end under the suggestion of some member I decided to keep things simple and just do 500mg test.

About AI, yes I ll start low dose 10mg a week and see where it brings me!

Never pinned glutes and I don’t have lot of dexterity, but maybe could be a better choice

 

[kamsikazee]

Following along your log closely brother!! Wish you well with the new stack!

 

[ballin2504]

I would say that everything is ready @PSL

@Pepty yes sir! It all looks good

 

[waggat]

Hey!

No, at the end under the suggestion of some member I decided to keep things simple and just do 500mg test.

About AI, yes I ll start low dose 10mg a week and see where it brings me!

Never pinned glutes and I don’t have lot of dexterity, but maybe could be a better choice

500mg/week test i'd definitely start with the AI then.

Ventro-glute is more on the side. There's videos on YouTube that show how to locate it.

 

[R.AP]

Hey everyone,

I just started my first cycle two days and I’m weighing two different philosophies regarding AI management. I’d love to get your take on this.

Baseline Bloods: E2 is at 24.29 pg/mL (Range: <15 - 31.5).

The Strategy Dilemma :

@LevButlerov suggested that I run a very low dose of Aromasin (Exemestane) from the start (5mg or 10mg split 2 times per week?). I’m definitely not trying to go against his advice, as I highly respect his experience, but I’m curious about the trade-offs and I think this discussion could be helpful for others in my position.

I’m torn between two approaches:

Option 1: Proactive (Start Now).

The benefit would be staying “ahead of the curve,” preventing massive water retention and blood pressure spikes / estradiol raising too much before they even start to do that.


Option 2: Reactive (Wait and See).

The benefit here is self-knowledge. By waiting until Week 4-5 to run bloods without an AI, I would learn exactly how my body aromatizes 500mg of Test.

My Questions:

1. Given my baseline E2 (24.29 pg/mL), do you think 5mg on Monday and 5mg on Thursday (10mg total) is enough to keep E2 in the high-normal range without crushing it? Or is 5mg total per week a better “micro-dose”?

2. For those who waited for bloods on their first cycle: was the “self-knowledge” worth the potential high E2 side effects (bloating, mood, etc.)?

3. When is the most accurate time for these bloods? Is Week 3 too early, or should I wait for the ester to reach steady state at Week 4-5?

I really want to maximize the anabolic benefits of having E2 on the higher side, but I don’t want it to spiral out of control

Thanks for the help!

Hey bro, let your bloodwork be the driver here. Speculating on how you will respond to compounds might do you more harm than good. Especially when it comes to e2, which plays an important role in IGF1 expression, and is neuro and cardio protective.

Measurements you can take proactively to assist your e2:

Keep body composition favorable: Aromatization occurs in fat tissue. The leaner you are, the less you aromatize.
Increase injection frequency: Inject your testosterone daily. Smaller boluses reduce aromatase activity.

** Most importantly ** Cycle methodology:

Start with a conservative dose of test, and increase marginally every couple of weeks UNTIL you run into the undesired side effects (water retention, bloat, skin issues, nipple sensitivity etc.) then pull her back a smidge. Get bloods done.

This is your maximum tolerable test dose and will provide INVALUABLE data for cycle design moving forward.

@LevButlerov
@HarleyGuy

 

[HarleyGuy]

Ah fyi, ordered all this from PSL:

• 4x Testosterone Enanthate 250mg/ml (10ml)
• 2x HCG 5000 IU
• 1x Exemestane (Aromasin) 25mg (30 tabs)
• 1x Clomiphene (Clomid) 50mg (30 tabs)
• 2x Tamoxifen (Nolvadex) 20mg (60 tabs totals)


They will be shipped on 5 of January.

Nice post order touchdown!!

Do you find pump work (12-20 rep range, drop sets, etc.) more effective on-cycle compared to staying in the 6-10 range?

Yes for sure this works for me and I’m glad to see you doing this.

Hey bro, let your bloodwork be the driver here. Speculating on how you will respond to compounds might do you more harm than good. Especially when it comes to e2, which plays an important role in IGF1 expression, and is neuro and cardio protective.

Measurements you can take proactively to assist your e2:

Keep body composition favorable: Aromatization occurs in fat tissue. The leaner you are, the less you aromatize.
Increase injection frequency: Inject your testosterone daily. Smaller boluses reduce aromatase activity.

** Most importantly ** Cycle methodology:

Start with a conservative dose of test, and increase marginally every couple of weeks UNTIL you run into the undesired side effects (water retention, bloat, skin issues, nipple sensitivity etc.) then pull her back a smidge. Get bloods done.

This is your maximum tolerable test dose and will provide INVALUABLE data for cycle design moving forward.

@LevButlerov
@HarleyGuy

This is bang on. And especially good info for a first cycle.

@Pepty your log is stellar! I like the detail including how you’re feeling from day to day and the advice seeking on when to start the cycle. Well done.

 

[Pepty]

@R.AP @HarleyGuy

Hey guys, thanks for the great advice, I’ve finally decided on a slightly more proactive approach to avoid any major spikes.

Today workout:

DAY 4 - PULL B

Romanian Deadlift 4x8: Week 1 & 2: 27.5kg
TRX/Bar Row 4x10: Week 1: 35kg → Week 2: 45kg
Close Grip Cable Row 4x12: Week 1: 40kg → Week 2: 45kg
Pull-Ups (Assisted) 3x6-8: Feeling lighter, better control.
Leg Curl 4x12: Week 1: 40kg → Week 2: 45kg
Shrugs 3x15: Week 1: 20kg → Week 2: 22.5kg
Face Pulls 3x15: Week 1: 17.5kg → Week 2: 20kg

Next ideas:

1. AI Strategy: Starting this Monday (Pin 3), I will begin a micro-dose of Aromasin at 5mg per injection (10mg total/week).
2. Blood Work: I have scheduled a full panel for Week 4 (mid-February) to get the data needed to dial in the AI dose precisely.
3. HGH Update: I’m bumping the HGH to 4IU starting today. I’m feeling great at 3.3IU, so I’m ready to see the impact of a higher dose on recovery and composition.

Tomorrow I will try my second pin on my ventroglute, let’s see.

Thanks guys!

 

[Kopite67]

@R.AP @HarleyGuy

Hey guys, thanks for the great advice, I’ve finally decided on a slightly more proactive approach to avoid any major spikes.

Today workout:

DAY 4 - PULL B

Romanian Deadlift 4x8: Week 1 & 2: 27.5kg
TRX/Bar Row 4x10: Week 1: 35kg → Week 2: 45kg
Close Grip Cable Row 4x12: Week 1: 40kg → Week 2: 45kg
Pull-Ups (Assisted) 3x6-8: Feeling lighter, better control.
Leg Curl 4x12: Week 1: 40kg → Week 2: 45kg
Shrugs 3x15: Week 1: 20kg → Week 2: 22.5kg
Face Pulls 3x15: Week 1: 17.5kg → Week 2: 20kg

Next ideas:

1. AI Strategy: Starting this Monday (Pin 3), I will begin a micro-dose of Aromasin at 5mg per injection (10mg total/week).
2. Blood Work: I have scheduled a full panel for Week 4 (mid-February) to get the data needed to dial in the AI dose precisely.
3. HGH Update: I’m bumping the HGH to 4IU starting today. I’m feeling great at 3.3IU, so I’m ready to see the impact of a higher dose on recovery and composition.

Tomorrow I will try my second pin on my ventroglute, let’s see.

Thanks guys!

Looking strong there brother. Nicely composed program with back, traps and posterior chain in combination. Excellent approach with blood work as well. Love the update.

 

[LevButlerov]

@R.AP @HarleyGuy

Hey guys, thanks for the great advice, I’ve finally decided on a slightly more proactive approach to avoid any major spikes.

Today workout:

DAY 4 - PULL B

Romanian Deadlift 4x8: Week 1 & 2: 27.5kg
TRX/Bar Row 4x10: Week 1: 35kg → Week 2: 45kg
Close Grip Cable Row 4x12: Week 1: 40kg → Week 2: 45kg
Pull-Ups (Assisted) 3x6-8: Feeling lighter, better control.
Leg Curl 4x12: Week 1: 40kg → Week 2: 45kg
Shrugs 3x15: Week 1: 20kg → Week 2: 22.5kg
Face Pulls 3x15: Week 1: 17.5kg → Week 2: 20kg

Next ideas:

1. AI Strategy: Starting this Monday (Pin 3), I will begin a micro-dose of Aromasin at 5mg per injection (10mg total/week).
2. Blood Work: I have scheduled a full panel for Week 4 (mid-February) to get the data needed to dial in the AI dose precisely.
3. HGH Update: I’m bumping the HGH to 4IU starting today. I’m feeling great at 3.3IU, so I’m ready to see the impact of a higher dose on recovery and composition.

Tomorrow I will try my second pin on my ventroglute, let’s see.

Thanks guys!

this is good lets see how aromasin treats you
did you post hgh pics you TD? @Pepty

 

[LevButlerov]

Thank you, as always!

I'll start aromasin 5mg on monday and thursday and plan bloodwork for the later next week!

In addition to having virgin muscle, I think I injected the oil too quickly; now the light pain has moved to my knee (it's much milder than at the beginning, though), tomorrow second pin i will try to inject it slowly and heating up the oil with a hair dryer.

Used 25g 25mm to inject, this is the injection site fyi.

that injection isn't correct I think, hard to see @Pepty did you check this injection site?
https://trtinjections.com

 

[Pepty]

Today i did the injection in my upper external glute, let's see next days..

Today's "workout"
30 min cardio, steady state 10 climb 4 km/h speed.
15 mins sauna.

I didn't post my GH vials because i didnt bought them from PSL, but from another source some months ago.. they're basically non-branded transparent vials ^^

 

[LevButlerov]

Today i did the injection in my upper external glute, let's see next days..

Today's "workout"
30 min cardio, steady state 10 climb 4 km/h speed.
15 mins sauna.

I didn't post my GH vials because i didnt bought them from PSL, but from another source some months ago.. they're basically non-branded transparent vials ^^

did you follow the injection guide I sent you? @Pepty https://trtinjections.com

 

[LevButlerov]

I didn't post my GH vials because i didnt bought them from PSL, but from another source some months ago.. they're basically non-branded transparent vials ^^

maybe hgh is fake fyi

 

[Pepty]

No they are tested from Janoshik

Yes I did, actually I’ve just little pain on my glute let’s see tomorrow

 

[LevButlerov]

No they are tested from Janoshik

Yes I did, actually I’ve just little pain on my glute let’s see tomorrow

Janoshik tests from Chinese suppliers you mean?

 

[Pepty]

Janoshik tests from Chinese suppliers you mean?

Yes, but also group tested with other guys and the results were fine.. especially I bought shit ton of that due to a promotion so now i've it; i will test it with a proper lab test and update you, at the moment it seems working (my hair are growing lot faster, recover is good, and when i went from 2 to 4 ui i woke up with my sleeping hands, as far as i know should be a side effect of GH.. i then went from 2 to 3, and after a while to 4).

I will update you as soon as O will make lab tests!

Day 1:
Chest Press Barbell 4x6-8: Week 1 & 2: 22.5kg → Week 3: 25kg

Seated DB Shoulder Press 4x8-10: Week 1, 2, 3 : 15kg

Incline DB Fly 3x10-12: W1 10 - W2 & W3 - 12.5KG

Dips (Assisted/Weighted) 3x8-10: Week 1 & 2: 28-21kg → Week 3: 14kg

Cable Lateral Raise 3x12-15: W1 W2 W3 2.5kg

Rear Lunges 4x10: 17.5kg

Plank 3x max hold

Did my third pin in the morning, tried to heat the oil up but once done i always wait a lot to inject coz i'm a newbie and i'm stressed.


Tried again on my thigh, following the indications on trtinjections.com; went smooth.

1. Heated oil a little bit
2. Followed instructions on trtinjections and on this post (thanks @S187)
3. No blood
4. 1 minute massage
5. Hot shower
6. Dried and then 20 mins heating pad
7. Pre-Workout: did 10 mins cyclette to activate blood flow on that area.

At the moment i just feel a little, i will update you tomorrow

Ah, a guy at the gym complimented me because, according to him, I'm getting bigger; I don't think it's the Test yet, but i'm anyway happy and wanted to share.

 

[Kopite67]

Yes, but also group tested with other guys and the results were fine.. especially I bought shit ton of that due to a promotion so now i've it; i will test it with a proper lab test and update you, at the moment it seems working (my hair are growing lot faster, recover is good, and when i went from 2 to 4 ui i woke up with my sleeping hands, as far as i know should be a side effect of GH.. i then went from 2 to 3, and after a while to 4).

I will update you as soon as O will make lab tests!

Day 1:
Chest Press Barbell 4x6-8: Week 1 & 2: 22.5kg → Week 3: 25kg

Seated DB Shoulder Press 4x8-10: Week 1, 2, 3 : 15kg

Incline DB Fly 3x10-12: W1 10 - W2 & W3 - 12.5KG

Dips (Assisted/Weighted) 3x8-10: Week 1 & 2: 28-21kg → Week 3: 14kg

Cable Lateral Raise 3x12-15: W1 W2 W3 2.5kg

Rear Lunges 4x10: 17.5kg

Plank 3x max hold

Did my third pin in the morning, tried to heat the oil up but once done i always wait a lot to inject coz i'm a newbie and i'm stressed.


Tried again on my thigh, following the indications on trtinjections.com; went smooth.

1. Heated oil a little bit
2. Followed instructions on trtinjections and on this post (thanks @S187)
3. No blood
4. 1 minute massage
5. Hot shower
6. Dried and then 20 mins heating pad
7. Pre-Workout: did 10 mins cyclette to activate blood flow on that area.

At the moment i just feel a little, i will update you tomorrow

Ah, a guy at the gym complimented me because, according to him, I'm getting bigger; I don't think it's the Test yet, but i'm anyway happy and wanted to share.

Great update brother. Pinning gets easier the longer you do it, trust me on that one . Love the training program, it's a bit old skool .
Amazing what a little mental boost from a compliment can give you. Remember that and do the same thing for others, it costs nothing, improves someone's day and is the main thing I learned early from the Evo Fam. Evo Fam love your way

 

[LevButlerov]

Yes, but also group tested with other guys and the results were fine.. especially I bought shit ton of that due to a promotion so now i've it; i will test it with a proper lab test and update you, at the moment it seems working (my hair are growing lot faster, recover is good, and when i went from 2 to 4 ui i woke up with my sleeping hands, as far as i know should be a side effect of GH.. i then went from 2 to 3, and after a while to 4).

i'm more concerned about cancer risk and heavy metal contamination tbh @Pepty from China

Day 1:
Chest Press Barbell 4x6-8: Week 1 & 2: 22.5kg → Week 3: 25kg

Seated DB Shoulder Press 4x8-10: Week 1, 2, 3 : 15kg

Incline DB Fly 3x10-12: W1 10 - W2 & W3 - 12.5KG

Dips (Assisted/Weighted) 3x8-10: Week 1 & 2: 28-21kg → Week 3: 14kg

Cable Lateral Raise 3x12-15: W1 W2 W3 2.5kg

Rear Lunges 4x10: 17.5kg

Plank 3x max hold

Did my third pin in the morning, tried to heat the oil up but once done i always wait a lot to inject coz i'm a newbie and i'm stressed.


Tried again on my thigh, following the indications on trtinjections.com; went smooth.

1. Heated oil a little bit
2. Followed instructions on trtinjections and on this post (thanks @S187)
3. No blood
4. 1 minute massage
5. Hot shower
6. Dried and then 20 mins heating pad
7. Pre-Workout: did 10 mins cyclette to activate blood flow on that area.

At the moment i just feel a little, i will update you tomorrow

Ah, a guy at the gym complimented me because, according to him, I'm getting bigger; I don't think it's the Test yet, but i'm anyway happy and wanted to share.

dips I like that when can we move to normal dip more?

 

[Pepty]

Hopefully during the next weeks I'll be able to remove the assisted weight!

Today's workout:

DAY 2 - PULL
Trap Bar Deadlift 4x5-6: Week 1 & 2: 37.5kg → Week 3: 40kg

One Arm DB Row 4x8-10: Week 1 & 2: 20kg → Week 3: 22.5kg

Neutral Grip Lat Pulldown 4x10-12: Week 1: 40kg - Week 2: 40-45kg → Week 3: 45kg

Face Pulls 3x15-20: Week 1: 15kg → Week 2&3 : 17.5kg

EZ Bar Curl 3x10-12: 5kg

Hammer Curl 3x12: 10kg

About yesterday injection i've just little bit of PIP, nothing compared to last week injection so i think the procedure i followed was right.

I've seen that the pain, if i inject in the upper part of vastus lateralis, in the next days drops to the lower side and to the knee, i've read that it could be the oil distributing.

As suggested by @LevButlerov , i'm seriously thinking to add Anavar during the last weeks of the cycle; what i would like to understand (and i'm studying it) is this: will it help just on the dry look or help also to build more muscle?

Thanks.

 

[Kopite67]

Hopefully during the next weeks I'll be able to remove the assisted weight!

Today's workout:

DAY 2 - PULL
Trap Bar Deadlift 4x5-6: Week 1 & 2: 37.5kg → Week 3: 40kg

One Arm DB Row 4x8-10: Week 1 & 2: 20kg → Week 3: 22.5kg

Neutral Grip Lat Pulldown 4x10-12: Week 1: 40kg - Week 2: 40-45kg → Week 3: 45kg

Face Pulls 3x15-20: Week 1: 15kg → Week 2&3 : 17.5kg

EZ Bar Curl 3x10-12: 5kg

Hammer Curl 3x12: 10kg

About yesterday injection i've just little bit of PIP, nothing compared to last week injection so i think the procedure i followed was right.

I've seen that the pain, if i inject in the upper part of vastus lateralis, in the next days drops to the lower side and to the knee, i've read that it could be the oil distributing.

As suggested by @LevButlerov , i'm seriously thinking to add Anavar during the last weeks of the cycle; what i would like to understand (and i'm studying it) is this: will it help just on the dry look or help also to build more muscle?

Thanks.

Nice update brother. Glad that you are experiencing less discomfort with the pins.

 

[LevButlerov]

Hopefully during the next weeks I'll be able to remove the assisted weight!

Today's workout:

DAY 2 - PULL
Trap Bar Deadlift 4x5-6: Week 1 & 2: 37.5kg → Week 3: 40kg

One Arm DB Row 4x8-10: Week 1 & 2: 20kg → Week 3: 22.5kg

Neutral Grip Lat Pulldown 4x10-12: Week 1: 40kg - Week 2: 40-45kg → Week 3: 45kg

Face Pulls 3x15-20: Week 1: 15kg → Week 2&3 : 17.5kg

EZ Bar Curl 3x10-12: 5kg

Hammer Curl 3x12: 10kg

About yesterday injection i've just little bit of PIP, nothing compared to last week injection so i think the procedure i followed was right.

I've seen that the pain, if i inject in the upper part of vastus lateralis, in the next days drops to the lower side and to the knee, i've read that it could be the oil distributing.

As suggested by @LevButlerov , i'm seriously thinking to add Anavar during the last weeks of the cycle; what i would like to understand (and i'm studying it) is this: will it help just on the dry look or help also to build more muscle?

Thanks.

This is good training I like your deads, moving up on weights 40kgs strong! @Pepty

did you follow the injection guide I gave you? https://trtinjections.com

anavar would be a good move, but go low dose and sublingual will help harden you and dry you a bit, dont go over 20mgs on anavar.

@BeMe @HarleyGuy @s.gentz
@Allupfromhere @Pigsy @Dreamer @Freki @R.AP
@waggat @Coolguy @Trenhead3cc @Kopite67

 

[Dreamer]

Hopefully during the next weeks I'll be able to remove the assisted weight!

Today's workout:

DAY 2 - PULL
Trap Bar Deadlift 4x5-6: Week 1 & 2: 37.5kg → Week 3: 40kg

One Arm DB Row 4x8-10: Week 1 & 2: 20kg → Week 3: 22.5kg

Neutral Grip Lat Pulldown 4x10-12: Week 1: 40kg - Week 2: 40-45kg → Week 3: 45kg

Face Pulls 3x15-20: Week 1: 15kg → Week 2&3 : 17.5kg

EZ Bar Curl 3x10-12: 5kg

Hammer Curl 3x12: 10kg

About yesterday injection i've just little bit of PIP, nothing compared to last week injection so i think the procedure i followed was right.

I've seen that the pain, if i inject in the upper part of vastus lateralis, in the next days drops to the lower side and to the knee, i've read that it could be the oil distributing.

As suggested by @LevButlerov , i'm seriously thinking to add Anavar during the last weeks of the cycle; what i would like to understand (and i'm studying it) is this: will it help just on the dry look or help also to build more muscle?

Thanks.

I found the quad to be one of the more painful injection sites, why not try glute, ventroglute or delt?

 

[BeMe]

Hopefully during the next weeks I'll be able to remove the assisted weight!

Today's workout:

DAY 2 - PULL
Trap Bar Deadlift 4x5-6: Week 1 & 2: 37.5kg → Week 3: 40kg

One Arm DB Row 4x8-10: Week 1 & 2: 20kg → Week 3: 22.5kg

Neutral Grip Lat Pulldown 4x10-12: Week 1: 40kg - Week 2: 40-45kg → Week 3: 45kg

Face Pulls 3x15-20: Week 1: 15kg → Week 2&3 : 17.5kg

EZ Bar Curl 3x10-12: 5kg

Hammer Curl 3x12: 10kg

About yesterday injection i've just little bit of PIP, nothing compared to last week injection so i think the procedure i followed was right.

I've seen that the pain, if i inject in the upper part of vastus lateralis, in the next days drops to the lower side and to the knee, i've read that it could be the oil distributing.

As suggested by @LevButlerov , i'm seriously thinking to add Anavar during the last weeks of the cycle; what i would like to understand (and i'm studying it) is this: will it help just on the dry look or help also to build more muscle?

Thanks.

Anavar will improve your strength in the gym, which should ideally lead to more muscle.

If you grind it up then let is dissolve under your tongue 40 minutes before your workout you'll feel the difference. Its like a pre-workout drink x 5.

If you start getting crazy crippling pumps then add some taurine in or lower the Anavar.

 

[Pepty]

This is good training I like your deads, moving up on weights 40kgs strong! @Pepty

did you follow the injection guide I gave you? https://trtinjections.com

anavar would be a good move, but go low dose and sublingual will help harden you and dry you a bit, dont go over 20mgs on anavar.

@BeMe @HarleyGuy @s.gentz
@Allupfromhere @Pigsy @Dreamer @Freki @R.AP
@waggat @Coolguy @Trenhead3cc @Kopite67

Yes I followed the procedure, PIP are super manageable now
Thanks for the feedback on anavar!
What you think about Turinabol?

I found the quad to be one of the more painful injection sites, why not try glute, ventroglute or delt?

Yes I did try, but had the same discomfort on glute, and also had problem to sleep due to PIP (I sleep in my side, don’t ask me why quad injection don’t give me problem to sleep )
I will try ventroglute tomorrow, I found a good video that finally shows how to do the injection on your own.
At this point I just think that it’s a matter of virgin muscle, I followed everything step on trtinjections.

Anavar will improve your strength in the gym, which should ideally lead to more muscle.

If you grind it up then let is dissolve under your tongue 40 minutes before your workout you'll feel the difference. Its like a pre-workout drink x 5.

If you start getting crazy crippling pumps then add some taurine in or lower the Anavar.

Thanks!
I already take some Taurine (1.5 pre workout with creatine) but eventually i will increase the dosage
What you think about Turinabol?


I will also try to pin with a 27g 19mm (instead of 25g 25mm) needle tomorrow; on quads and ventroglute I’m sure it’s enough 19mm, on glutes I don’t know.

I saw lot of members using that needle so I think it can work also on that!

@Pigsy @Coolguy @toddthelineman @Smidday @waggat

 

[Pepty]

Oh guys, another thing i wanted to share.

My resting heart rate increased the night of the first injection, while i sleep it went from 63-70 to 70-80, but also when i wake up it's like 100bpm..

My first heart protection is Telmisartan , the pressure is good (today I had 114 - 49 100bpm) and I've read that about the low distolic could be the Aromasin i took few days ago (5mgs), while the BPM was 113 two days ago (before taking the Aromasin) and now it's 100 after i wake up.

What are your thoughts? Is it possible that just 5mgs it's too much for me?

During the next 48 hrs I will monitor morning, afternoon and evening before bed.

 

[Coolguy]

Yes I followed the procedure, PIP are super manageable now
Thanks for the feedback on anavar!
What you think about Turinabol?


Yes I did try, but had the same discomfort on glute, and also had problem to sleep due to PIP (I sleep in my side, don’t ask me why quad injection don’t give me problem to sleep )
I will try ventroglute tomorrow, I found a good video that finally shows how to do the injection on your own.
At this point I just think that it’s a matter of virgin muscle, I followed everything step on trtinjections.



Thanks!
I already take some Taurine (1.5 pre workout with creatine) but eventually i will increase the dosage
What you think about Turinabol?


I will also try to pin with a 27g 19mm (instead of 25g 25mm) needle tomorrow; on quads and ventroglute I’m sure it’s enough 19mm, on glutes I don’t know.

I saw lot of members using that needle so I think it can work also on that!

@Pigsy @Coolguy @toddthelineman @Smidday @waggat

Absolutely brother i use 26/27g 1/2 generally. You should be sweet

 

[Coolguy]

Oh guys, another thing i wanted to share.

My resting heart rate increased the night of the first injection, while i sleep it went from 63-70 to 70-80, but also when i wake up it's like 100bpm..

My first heart protection is Telmisartan , the pressure is good (today I had 114 - 49 100bpm) and I've read that about the low distolic could be the Aromasin i took few days ago (5mgs), while the BPM was 113 two days ago (before taking the Aromasin) and now it's 100 after i wake up.

What are your thoughts? Is it possible that just 5mgs it's too much for me?

During the next 48 hrs I will monitor morning, afternoon and evening before bed.

Maybe honestly I personally wouldn't worry with the AI. Primo will give you the same effect. A lot.of the pros don't use AI because it's puts unnecessary stress on your body and the primo/mast etc already does a good job of keeping your e2 sides in check. Just keep it on hand if you have any sides then take it.

 

[waggat]

Yes I followed the procedure, PIP are super manageable now
Thanks for the feedback on anavar!
What you think about Turinabol?


Yes I did try, but had the same discomfort on glute, and also had problem to sleep due to PIP (I sleep in my side, don’t ask me why quad injection don’t give me problem to sleep )
I will try ventroglute tomorrow, I found a good video that finally shows how to do the injection on your own.
At this point I just think that it’s a matter of virgin muscle, I followed everything step on trtinjections.



Thanks!
I already take some Taurine (1.5 pre workout with creatine) but eventually i will increase the dosage
What you think about Turinabol?


I will also try to pin with a 27g 19mm (instead of 25g 25mm) needle tomorrow; on quads and ventroglute I’m sure it’s enough 19mm, on glutes I don’t know.

I saw lot of members using that needle so I think it can work also on that!

@Pigsy @Coolguy @toddthelineman @Smidday @waggat

I like 27g (13mm) for delt but use 25g (25mm) for glute. My favourite spot is definitely ventro-glute.

Long but good video on the ventro-glute site:

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[Coolguy]

Ill send a video @Pepty vg is pretty easy one you know where it's at.

 

[Pepty]

Thanks both!

I'm referring to this video.

Anyway BP is back to normal now, maybe i was just little bit de-hydrated after the night

 

[kamsikazee]

Good to see you are progressing well! Getting stronger with the weights. Be mindful on upping the weights for back exercises, keep good form to avoid injury. How are you feeling on the new stack?

 

[Kopite67]

Oh guys, another thing i wanted to share.

My resting heart rate increased the night of the first injection, while i sleep it went from 63-70 to 70-80, but also when i wake up it's like 100bpm..

My first heart protection is Telmisartan , the pressure is good (today I had 114 - 49 100bpm) and I've read that about the low distolic could be the Aromasin i took few days ago (5mgs), while the BPM was 113 two days ago (before taking the Aromasin) and now it's 100 after i wake up.

What are your thoughts? Is it possible that just 5mgs it's too much for me?

During the next 48 hrs I will monitor morning, afternoon and evening before bed.

Something is off there brother. HR is way too high for that BP. A 49 is not a problem, that is the Telmisartan.
Let us know what the next few readings are.

 

[Pepty]

I re-mesaures my BP, too low:

117/52 - 94bpm
101/43 - 94bpm

I will reduce Telmisartan to 20mg from now on and start from there.
I think it’s too much for me at the moment

Today:
Cardio 30 mins
Sauna 15 minutes

 

[Kopite67]

I re-mesaures my BP, too low:

117/52 - 94bpm
101/43 - 94bpm

I will reduce Telmisartan to 20mg from now on and start from there.
I think it’s too much for me at the moment

Today:
Cardio 30 mins
Sauna 15 minutes

Sounds like a plan. Can you get a GP to review this for you? 101/43 and rpr of 94 is an odd combination. Might need a bit of medical advice.

 

[~Vision~]

I would say that everything is ready @PSL

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[LevButlerov]

Yes I followed the procedure, PIP are super manageable now
Thanks for the feedback on anavar!
What you think about Turinabol?

happy to hear this see the site helps @Pepty
tbol? how about anavar

 

[LevButlerov]

I re-mesaures my BP, too low:

117/52 - 94bpm
101/43 - 94bpm

I will reduce Telmisartan to 20mg from now on and start from there.
I think it’s too much for me at the moment

Today:
Cardio 30 mins
Sauna 15 minutes

Cut your telmisartan to 10mgs and see.

 

[LevButlerov]

Oh guys, another thing i wanted to share.

My resting heart rate increased the night of the first injection, while i sleep it went from 63-70 to 70-80, but also when i wake up it's like 100bpm..

My first heart protection is Telmisartan , the pressure is good (today I had 114 - 49 100bpm) and I've read that about the low distolic could be the Aromasin i took few days ago (5mgs), while the BPM was 113 two days ago (before taking the Aromasin) and now it's 100 after i wake up.

What are your thoughts? Is it possible that just 5mgs it's too much for me?

During the next 48 hrs I will monitor morning, afternoon and evening before bed.

have you been taking baby aspirin?

 

[Pepty]

Sounds like a plan. Can you get a GP to review this for you? 101/43 and rpr of 94 is an odd combination. Might need a bit of medical advice.

I will cut the Telmisartan to 10 first and see

happy to hear this see the site helps @Pepty
tbol? how about anavar

I will buy it but in the next order, haven’t yet..

have you been taking baby aspirin?

No I don’t, but I do take Cialis 5mg day, I think that also this can influence.. I will cut Telmisartan to 10mg from today and see.

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With enthusiasm,
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[LevButlerov]

No I don’t, but I do take Cialis 5mg day, I think that also this can influence.. I will cut Telmisartan to 10mg from today and see.

add baby aspirin 2x/week see how you feel @Pepty

 

[Pepty]

add baby aspirin 2x/week see how you feel @Pepty

I will also try them, here in IT we need a prescription for that, i had to buy them oversea, will come in 1 weeks (took the occasion to also buy fibers)..

Today great session, increased weight in many exercise.

DAY 3 - PUSH B

Standing Military Press - 4x5-6 - 11.25 kg - W3 12.5kg
Incline DB Press - 4x8-10 - 20 kg W3 - 22.5 kg
Chest Press - 3x12-15 - 45 kg
Deficit Push-Ups - 3x Max
DB Lateral Raise - 3x12-15 - W1 5 kg - W2 6
Step-Ups - 4x8 - 20 - W3 22.5 kg
Core: Stability Ball Roll-Out - 3x10

Did my 4 pin on my Ventroglute, not 100% but went smoothly, we’ll see tomorrow.

 

[Kopite67]

Quality update brother

I will also try them, here in IT we need a prescription for that, i had to buy them oversea, will come in 1 weeks (took the occasion to also buy fibers)..

Today great session, increased weight in many exercise.

DAY 3 - PUSH B

Standing Military Press - 4x5-6 - 11.25 kg - W3 12.5kg
Incline DB Press - 4x8-10 - 20 kg W3 - 22.5 kg
Chest Press - 3x12-15 - 45 kg
Deficit Push-Ups - 3x Max
DB Lateral Raise - 3x12-15 - W1 5 kg - W2 6
Step-Ups - 4x8 - 20 - W3 22.5 kg
Core: Stability Ball Roll-Out - 3x10

Did my 4 pin on my Ventroglute, not 100% but went smoothly, we’ll see tomorrow.

 

[LevButlerov]

I will also try them, here in IT we need a prescription for that, i had to buy them oversea, will come in 1 weeks (took the occasion to also buy fibers)..

Today great session, increased weight in many exercise.

DAY 3 - PUSH B

Standing Military Press - 4x5-6 - 11.25 kg - W3 12.5kg
Incline DB Press - 4x8-10 - 20 kg W3 - 22.5 kg
Chest Press - 3x12-15 - 45 kg
Deficit Push-Ups - 3x Max
DB Lateral Raise - 3x12-15 - W1 5 kg - W2 6
Step-Ups - 4x8 - 20 - W3 22.5 kg
Core: Stability Ball Roll-Out - 3x10

Did my 4 pin on my Ventroglute, not 100% but went smoothly, we’ll see tomorrow.

you need a prescription to buy aspirin in Italy? @Pepty you sure? @Simoneme ?

 

[Pepty]

As far as I know for Cardioaspirin

My bloody pressure today:

131/59 100

117/56 105

119/68 102

I’m increasing Taurine but I’m thinking also to stop Reta to decrease the heart rate.

I don’t have any side effect at the moment, I think I will go for bloodwork on Monday to check Hematocrit and E2; I will also do complete bloodworks in 2 weeks.

Any other suggestions?

I don’t know if adding Nebivolol could help, I would stack too many things but I’d like to understand the source of the issue about heart rate.

Maybe by body is just adapting.

Thanks.

 

[BigD9795]

I would say that everything is ready @PSL

Let the good times roll!

 

[Kopite67]

As far as I know for Cardioaspirin

My bloody pressure today:

131/59 100

117/56 105

119/68 102

I’m increasing Taurine but I’m thinking also to stop Reta to decrease the heart rate.

I don’t have any side effect at the moment, I think I will go for bloodwork on Monday to check Hematocrit and E2; I will also do complete bloodworks in 2 weeks.

Any other suggestions?

I don’t know if adding Nebivolol could help, I would stack too many things but I’d like to understand the source of the issue about heart rate.

Maybe by body is just adapting.

Thanks.

BP is good bro, Heart rate is still too high. Bloodwork is absolutely needed to see where some of your principle markers are at. Please log that once you have them

 

[Pepty]

BP is good bro, Heart rate is still too high. Bloodwork is absolutely needed to see where some of your principle markers are at. Please log that once you have them

Yes absolutely!

Today’s stats:

09:30 AM:
131 59 HR 100
117 56 HR 105
119 68 HR 102

8:30 PM:
120 65 HR 88
115 63 HR 86
114 61 HR 87

Took 100mg of aspirin this morning, increased taurine to 6mg (will take 2 pre-bed)

Nice session today too:

DAY 4 - PULL B

Romanian Deadlift - 4x8 - 27.5 - W3 35KG
Bar Row - 4x10 - W1 35 kg - W2 45KG - W3 50KG
Close Grip Cable Row - 4x12 - W1 40 kg - W2 45KG - W3 50Kg
Pull-Ups (Weighted/Assisted) - 3x6-8 - MAX
Leg Curl - 4x12 - W1 40 kg - W2 - 45Kg - W3 50KG
Shrugs - 3x15 - W1 20 kg - W2 W3 22.5kg
Face Pulls - 3x15 - W1 17.5 - W2 W3 20kg

I’ll closely monitor my HR and BP till Monday, and see if do the blood work this week or next one (hopefully with steady state Test / E2).

I think I will also integrate electrolytes

Stay safe fam!

 

[Kopite67]

Yes absolutely!

Today’s stats:

09:30 AM:
131 59 HR 100
117 56 HR 105
119 68 HR 102

8:30 PM:
120 65 HR 88
115 63 HR 86
114 61 HR 87

Took 100mg of aspirin this morning, increased taurine to 6mg (will take 2 pre-bed)

Nice session today too:

DAY 4 - PULL B

Romanian Deadlift - 4x8 - 27.5 - W3 35KG
Bar Row - 4x10 - W1 35 kg - W2 45KG - W3 50KG
Close Grip Cable Row - 4x12 - W1 40 kg - W2 45KG - W3 50Kg
Pull-Ups (Weighted/Assisted) - 3x6-8 - MAX
Leg Curl - 4x12 - W1 40 kg - W2 - 45Kg - W3 50KG
Shrugs - 3x15 - W1 20 kg - W2 W3 22.5kg
Face Pulls - 3x15 - W1 17.5 - W2 W3 20kg

I’ll closely monitor my HR and BP till Monday, and see if do the blood work this week or next one (hopefully with steady state Test / E2).

I think I will also integrate electrolytes

Stay safe fam!

Nice training update bro. Odd that your HR decreased as the day went on. Are you taking anything as soon as you wake up and before your first BP and HR monitoring?

 

[Pepty]

Nice training update bro. Odd that your HR decreased as the day went on. Are you taking anything as soon as you wake up and before your first BP and HR monitoring?

No it’s really strange, I don’t take anything before the monitoring

It seems that in the morning the HR it’s much higher, it seems to be caused by a mix of a spike in cortisol when you wake up, de-hydration and many other things..

Obviously my HR is high compared to the average, but I’m also taking lot of things (Reta, GH, Test, Cialis, KLOW..)

 

[LevButlerov]

As far as I know for Cardioaspirin

My bloody pressure today:

131/59 100

117/56 105

119/68 102

I’m increasing Taurine but I’m thinking also to stop Reta to decrease the heart rate.

I don’t have any side effect at the moment, I think I will go for bloodwork on Monday to check Hematocrit and E2; I will also do complete bloodworks in 2 weeks.

Any other suggestions?

I don’t know if adding Nebivolol could help, I would stack too many things but I’d like to understand the source of the issue about heart rate.

Maybe by body is just adapting.

Thanks.

your blood pressure is fine seems
you think retatrutide is related to heart rate? I would add taurine and electrolytes first before cutting reta @Pepty

 

[Pepty]

Ordered electro and increased taurine to 5 mg day.

Today 30 mins cardio!

I have one thought to share. Today was at a lunch with lot of friends, beautiful atmosphere on the beach, lot of fun, food and bottle of wines, but my desire to drink it’s always less.

When I started to use Reta it blocked my cravings and I think it also affect the wants to drink alcool.
I used to drink a lot but now I don’t mind to avoid it (unbelievable thing 4 months ago), I don’t think it’s just a matter of discipline, but related to Reta.

I heard a lot of people stopped to smoke too due to Reta.

 

[LevButlerov]

Ordered electro and increased taurine to 5 mg day.

Today 30 mins cardio!

I have one thought to share. Today was at a lunch with lot of friends, beautiful atmosphere on the beach, lot of fun, food and bottle of wines, but my desire to drink it’s always less.

When I started to use Reta it blocked my cravings and I think it also affect the wants to drink alcool.
I used to drink a lot but now I don’t mind to avoid it (unbelievable thing 4 months ago), I don’t think it’s just a matter of discipline, but related to Reta.

I heard a lot of people stopped to smoke too due to Reta.

you're talking about nice lunch no pics? @Pepty
and yes alcohol addiction is cut with retatrutide it's a fact

 

[Pepty]

Next time i will make some pic!

oh thanks for the confirmation!

Today i did my 5th injection, wanted to try my left delt; maybe not the best spot but i want to try how i feel in every muscle i can inject.

Initially i did aspirate my Test without cleaning the vial on top (first time i forgot to clean a vial in 5 months i inject peptides); then i cleaned my vial with another needle etc.

Now i've one syringe (that i used firsts to aspirate) that it's with 1ml of Test.

I wanted to ask if it's risky to use it or not, and if it will last till Thursday..

Thanks all!

 

[LevButlerov]

Next time i will make some pic!

oh thanks for the confirmation!

Today i did my 5th injection, wanted to try my left delt; maybe not the best spot but i want to try how i feel in every muscle i can inject.

Initially i did aspirate my Test without cleaning the vial on top (first time i forgot to clean a vial in 5 months i inject peptides); then i cleaned my vial with another needle etc.

Now i've one syringe (that i used firsts to aspirate) that it's with 1ml of Test.

I wanted to ask if it's risky to use it or not, and if it will last till Thursday..

Thanks all!

5th injection is good lets see how it goes. you followed the guide?

 

[Pepty]

Yes I’m following the guide for every injection!
Thanks for the confirmation!

 

[LevButlerov]

Yes I’m following the guide for every injection!
Thanks for the confirmation!

awesome

 

[Pepty]

Little bit pain on my delts after the injection, but really nothing compared to previous injections.

Used my delts and 27 g gauge on Monday.

My heart rate is still high, but actually increased since the first pin on January 20, so at this point i think it's not a question of estradiol but something else

I’ll have the tests done at the end of this week or early next week, but I'd like to start figuring out how to lower my heart rate because I haven't been sleeping well, my Oura Ring tells confirms me that too.

I’m not sure Taurine and Electrolytes are enough, maybe worth to reduce Cialis (actually 5mg) but I actually like the pump.

I'm starting to retain some water, guess estradiol is raising but i've no other side effects at all at the moment.

Recap:

Test 500mg (250 2 times a week)
HCG 500 ui (250 ui mon and thursday)
Reta 1 mg (0.5 monday and thursday)
GH 4 ui ED
Klow ED

 

[LevButlerov]

Little bit pain on my delts after the injection, but really nothing compared to previous injections.

Used my delts and 27 g gauge on Monday.

My heart rate is still high, but actually increased since the first pin on January 20, so at this point i think it's not a question of estradiol but something else

I’ll have the tests done at the end of this week or early next week, but I'd like to start figuring out how to lower my heart rate because I haven't been sleeping well, my Oura Ring tells confirms me that too.

I’m not sure Taurine and Electrolytes are enough, maybe worth to reduce Cialis (actually 5mg) but I actually like the pump.

I'm starting to retain some water, guess estradiol is raising but i've no other side effects at all at the moment.

Recap:

Test 500mg (250 2 times a week)
HCG 500 ui (250 ui mon and thursday)
Reta 1 mg (0.5 monday and thursday)
GH 4 ui ED
Klow ED

how much taurine and electrolytes are you taking? and which electrolytes? @Pepty

 

[Pepty]

how much taurine and electrolytes are you taking? and which electrolytes? @Pepty

Hey guys!

5mg Taurine/day and pharmacy electrolytes (called Supradyn)

Sorry i did disappear, was little busy IRL.

I just did my bloodwork and i've received analysis.

Obviously the Test is working, look at those ^^

Sadly this lab has capped results, but obviously the Test is working fine.

I will increase Aromasin to 10mg Mon / Thurs, since i think 2.5 it's not enough.

Despite i don't have any side effect (except water retention), Estradiol is really high (148), and also Prolactin.

Also HDL is low.

I've also bought Ivabradin for HR management, took 2.5 before bed yesterday and my HR was 5bpm less than other day, also my Readiness is better.

Any tips?

Thanks!

@LevButlerov @HarleyGuy @PSL @~Vision~ @Phill @RoidRage69 @RoidRageWife @ROIDDERS @Noah Wixx @s.gentz @BigD9795

 

[s.gentz]

Hey guys!

5mg Taurine/day and pharmacy electrolytes (called Supradyn)

Sorry i did disappear, was little busy IRL.

I just did my bloodwork and i've received analysis.

Obviously the Test is working, look at those ^^

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Sadly this lab has capped results, but obviously the Test is working fine.

I will increase Aromasin to 10mg Mon / Thurs, since i think 2.5 it's not enough.

Despite i don't have any side effect (except water retention), Estradiol is really high (148), and also Prolactin.

Also HDL is low.

I've also bought Ivabradin for HR management, took 2.5 before bed yesterday and my HR was 5bpm less than other day, also my Readiness is better.

Any tips?

Thanks!

@LevButlerov @HarleyGuy @PSL @~Vision~ @Phill @RoidRage69 @RoidRageWife @ROIDDERS @Noah Wixx @s.gentz @BigD9795

I'd prob go a little higher with the aromasin. 20-25mg 2x per week.

 

[LevButlerov]

Hey guys!

5mg Taurine/day and pharmacy electrolytes (called Supradyn)

Sorry i did disappear, was little busy IRL.

I just did my bloodwork and i've received analysis.

Obviously the Test is working, look at those ^^

View attachment 182334
View attachment 182335

View attachment 182336
View attachment 182337


Sadly this lab has capped results, but obviously the Test is working fine.

I will increase Aromasin to 10mg Mon / Thurs, since i think 2.5 it's not enough.

Despite i don't have any side effect (except water retention), Estradiol is really high (148), and also Prolactin.

Also HDL is low.

I've also bought Ivabradin for HR management, took 2.5 before bed yesterday and my HR was 5bpm less than other day, also my Readiness is better.

Any tips?

Thanks!

@LevButlerov @HarleyGuy @PSL @~Vision~ @Phill @RoidRage69 @RoidRageWife @ROIDDERS @Noah Wixx @s.gentz @BigD9795

prolactin high estrogen high, what happened? @Pepty lets get aromasin up and cabergoline

 

[HarleyGuy]

Hey guys!

5mg Taurine/day and pharmacy electrolytes (called Supradyn)

Sorry i did disappear, was little busy IRL.

I just did my bloodwork and i've received analysis.

Obviously the Test is working, look at those ^^

View attachment 182334
View attachment 182335

View attachment 182336
View attachment 182337


Sadly this lab has capped results, but obviously the Test is working fine.

I will increase Aromasin to 10mg Mon / Thurs, since i think 2.5 it's not enough.

Despite i don't have any side effect (except water retention), Estradiol is really high (148), and also Prolactin.

Also HDL is low.

I've also bought Ivabradin for HR management, took 2.5 before bed yesterday and my HR was 5bpm less than other day, also my Readiness is better.

Any tips?

Thanks!

@LevButlerov @HarleyGuy @PSL @~Vision~ @Phill @RoidRage69 @RoidRageWife @ROIDDERS @Noah Wixx @s.gentz @BigD9795

Lipids are typical on cycle. CRP is great.

e2 and prolactin needs aromasin and caber ASAP.

Are your aromasin tabs 10mg?
Do you have cabergoline?

 

[Kopite67]

Hey guys!

5mg Taurine/day and pharmacy electrolytes (called Supradyn)

Sorry i did disappear, was little busy IRL.

I just did my bloodwork and i've received analysis.

Obviously the Test is working, look at those ^^

View attachment 182334
View attachment 182335

View attachment 182336
View attachment 182337


Sadly this lab has capped results, but obviously the Test is working fine.

I will increase Aromasin to 10mg Mon / Thurs, since i think 2.5 it's not enough.

Despite i don't have any side effect (except water retention), Estradiol is really high (148), and also Prolactin.

Also HDL is low.

I've also bought Ivabradin for HR management, took 2.5 before bed yesterday and my HR was 5bpm less than other day, also my Readiness is better.

Any tips?

Thanks!

@LevButlerov @HarleyGuy @PSL @~Vision~ @Phill @RoidRage69 @RoidRageWife @ROIDDERS @Noah Wixx @s.gentz @BigD9795

Nice update bro. Nothing to add to all the advice before me. Follow that

 

[Pepty]

I'd prob go a little higher with the aromasin. 20-25mg 2x per week.

Thanks maybe better go directly to 20mg at least at the beginning to drop those E2!

prolactin high estrogen high, what happened? @Pepty lets get aromasin up and cabergoline

I don't know, this is my first blood work after the start of the cycle..

I'm going to search for Cabergoline because i don't have a source at the moment.

Lipids are typical on cycle. CRP is great.

e2 and prolactin needs aromasin and caber ASAP.

Are your aromasin tabs 10mg?
Do you have cabergoline?

Yes i've Aromasin 10mg from PSL!

No i don't, i'll need a source for that..

Nice update bro. Nothing to add to all the advice before me. Follow that

Thank you brother.


Guys feel good overall, i don't have side effect (except water retention), but no gyno / acne at all but better to decrease those E2 asap.

My weights are increasing a lot honestly ^^'

This is my current condition, little water retention hopefully will decrease while E2 drops.

Wish you a good night everyone!

 

[LevButlerov]

I don't know, this is my first blood work after the start of the cycle..

I'm going to search for Cabergoline because i don't have a source at the moment.

cabergoline dostinex is same did you look at PSL? @Pepty https://puritysourcelabs.ru/
@PSL @~Vision~

 

[LevButlerov]

Thanks maybe better go directly to 20mg at least at the beginning to drop those E2!


I don't know, this is my first blood work after the start of the cycle..

I'm going to search for Cabergoline because i don't have a source at the moment.



Yes i've Aromasin 10mg from PSL!

No i don't, i'll need a source for that..


Thank you brother.


Guys feel good overall, i don't have side effect (except water retention), but no gyno / acne at all but better to decrease those E2 asap.

My weights are increasing a lot honestly ^^'

This is my current condition, little water retention hopefully will decrease while E2 drops.

Wish you a good night everyone!

We need to get you on aromasin asap start the dose, post pics of your aromasin please @Pepty

 

[Pepty]

@HarleyGuy Sorry i made a mistake, i've 20mg tabs from PSL

@LevButlerov: Yes, started yesterday with the most fat meal of the day 20mg.

I couldn't find cabergoline on PSL, i'd like to try P5P in the meantime, looking for input on the dosage.

 

[HarleyGuy]

i'd like to try P5P in the meantime, looking for input on the dosage

P5P is generally garbage for lowering prolactin and you need super high doses. I'd focus on sourcing caber ASAP at 0.25mg e3d.

 

[LevButlerov]

@HarleyGuy Sorry i made a mistake, i've 20mg tabs from PSL

@LevButlerov: Yes, started yesterday with the most fat meal of the day 20mg.

I couldn't find cabergoline on PSL, i'd like to try P5P in the meantime, looking for input on the dosage.


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This aromasin from @PSL @~Vision~ is gtg @Pepty
p5p not perfect but try higher doses with vitamin C

 

[Pepty]

Hey guys,

I'm pretty sure my elevated heart rate is due to significant water retention from high E2.

I started taking AI on Thursday (20 mg), then another 15 mg on Saturday. Today I'm taking 10 mg again and will continue with 10 mg every 3-4 days (next dose Thursday), then I'll do bloodwork to check E2 levels and adjust the dosage accordingly.

I noticed my heart rate would spike specifically when lying down to sleep. After researching and consulting with medical resources, I found the reason: it's a form of orthostatic fluid redistribution (similar to what happens in early cardiac preload issues). Basically, when you lie flat, all the retained fluid from your legs/body suddenly returns to your chest, causing a sudden increase in blood volume that the heart has to pump, resulting in stronger/faster heartbeats.. maybe it was obvious but i didn't think about that.

Last night I slept with 3 pillows propped up (semi-recumbent position, about 30-45° angle) so my upper body was elevated and fluids wouldn't pool directly on my chest.

Check out the results: 10 bpm drop in my sleeping heart rate compared to previous nights (from ~84 bpm to 75 bpm).

I'll continue monitoring and update once I get my follow-up bloodwork in about 10 days to see where E2 has landed with the AI protocol.

Also looking to change my workout.

P.S @PSL also added a chargeback balance on my account due to my blood work it's amazing but this is tempting me so much to take something else to add to the cycle, maybe some Anavar to use at the end or other injectables?

 

[LevButlerov]

Hey guys,

I'm pretty sure my elevated heart rate is due to significant water retention from high E2.

I started taking AI on Thursday (20 mg), then another 15 mg on Saturday. Today I'm taking 10 mg again and will continue with 10 mg every 3-4 days (next dose Thursday), then I'll do bloodwork to check E2 levels and adjust the dosage accordingly.

I noticed my heart rate would spike specifically when lying down to sleep. After researching and consulting with medical resources, I found the reason: it's a form of orthostatic fluid redistribution (similar to what happens in early cardiac preload issues). Basically, when you lie flat, all the retained fluid from your legs/body suddenly returns to your chest, causing a sudden increase in blood volume that the heart has to pump, resulting in stronger/faster heartbeats.. maybe it was obvious but i didn't think about that.

Last night I slept with 3 pillows propped up (semi-recumbent position, about 30-45° angle) so my upper body was elevated and fluids wouldn't pool directly on my chest.

Check out the results: 10 bpm drop in my sleeping heart rate compared to previous nights (from ~84 bpm to 75 bpm).

I'll continue monitoring and update once I get my follow-up bloodwork in about 10 days to see where E2 has landed with the AI protocol.

Also looking to change my workout.

P.S @PSL also added a chargeback balance on my account due to my blood work it's amazing but this is tempting me so much to take something else to add to the cycle, maybe some Anavar to use at the end or other injectables?

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have you been measuring your blood pressure ED? @Pepty

and what is your dose # for aromasin now?


@BeMe @HarleyGuy @s.gentz
@Allupfromhere @Pigsy @Dreamer @Freki @R.AP
@waggat @Coolguy @Trenhead3cc @Kopite67 @codezz

 

[codezz]

Hey guys,

I'm pretty sure my elevated heart rate is due to significant water retention from high E2.

I started taking AI on Thursday (20 mg), then another 15 mg on Saturday. Today I'm taking 10 mg again and will continue with 10 mg every 3-4 days (next dose Thursday), then I'll do bloodwork to check E2 levels and adjust the dosage accordingly.

I noticed my heart rate would spike specifically when lying down to sleep. After researching and consulting with medical resources, I found the reason: it's a form of orthostatic fluid redistribution (similar to what happens in early cardiac preload issues). Basically, when you lie flat, all the retained fluid from your legs/body suddenly returns to your chest, causing a sudden increase in blood volume that the heart has to pump, resulting in stronger/faster heartbeats.. maybe it was obvious but i didn't think about that.

Last night I slept with 3 pillows propped up (semi-recumbent position, about 30-45° angle) so my upper body was elevated and fluids wouldn't pool directly on my chest.

Check out the results: 10 bpm drop in my sleeping heart rate compared to previous nights (from ~84 bpm to 75 bpm).

I'll continue monitoring and update once I get my follow-up bloodwork in about 10 days to see where E2 has landed with the AI protocol.

Also looking to change my workout.

P.S @PSL also added a chargeback balance on my account due to my blood work it's amazing but this is tempting me so much to take something else to add to the cycle, maybe some Anavar to use at the end or other injectables?

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Have u had a sleep study done man?? @Pepty

 

[Pepty]

@LevButlerov Yes, blood pressure is good 120-125 / 65-70 (i'm on Telmisartan 20 mg a day); Aromasin this week will be 10mg Mon / Thurs.

@codezz: I never, buy i've 2 tracking tools that always helped me to manage the sleep: Oura (using that from 3 years) and now Amazfit Helio Strap.
My sleep is and has always been good, i just started to have high HR when i started Test!

 

[Trenhead3cc]

Thanks for sharing this bro, wasn't obvious to me , something I never thought about either to be honest but makes perfect sense

 

[Pepty]

Thanks for sharing this bro, wasn't obvious to me , something I never thought about either to be honest but makes perfect sense

Glad I was the one to help, once in a while!

 

[LevButlerov]

@LevButlerov Yes, blood pressure is good 120-125 / 65-70 (i'm on Telmisartan 20 mg a day); Aromasin this week will be 10mg Mon / Thurs.

these are fine for now but your e2 does worry me tbh @Pepty
please update training food

 

[Dreamer]

Hey guys,

I'm pretty sure my elevated heart rate is due to significant water retention from high E2.

I started taking AI on Thursday (20 mg), then another 15 mg on Saturday. Today I'm taking 10 mg again and will continue with 10 mg every 3-4 days (next dose Thursday), then I'll do bloodwork to check E2 levels and adjust the dosage accordingly.

I noticed my heart rate would spike specifically when lying down to sleep. After researching and consulting with medical resources, I found the reason: it's a form of orthostatic fluid redistribution (similar to what happens in early cardiac preload issues). Basically, when you lie flat, all the retained fluid from your legs/body suddenly returns to your chest, causing a sudden increase in blood volume that the heart has to pump, resulting in stronger/faster heartbeats.. maybe it was obvious but i didn't think about that.

Last night I slept with 3 pillows propped up (semi-recumbent position, about 30-45° angle) so my upper body was elevated and fluids wouldn't pool directly on my chest.

Check out the results: 10 bpm drop in my sleeping heart rate compared to previous nights (from ~84 bpm to 75 bpm).

I'll continue monitoring and update once I get my follow-up bloodwork in about 10 days to see where E2 has landed with the AI protocol.

Also looking to change my workout.

P.S @PSL also added a chargeback balance on my account due to my blood work it's amazing but this is tempting me so much to take something else to add to the cycle, maybe some Anavar to use at the end or other injectables?

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It does happen man yes, if your experiencing the elevated hr, your BP is likely elevated too, need to do bloods

 

[Pepty]

these are fine for now but your e2 does worry me tbh @Pepty
please update training food

Yes, took Aromasin and will take another 10mg on Thursd.

I will also stop HCG use (actually i do 250ui twice a week), so E2 can drop faster and eventually i will use it at the last part of the cycle (not sure yet if needed, i will anyway do PCT).

It does happen man yes, if your experiencing the elevated hr, your BP is likely elevated too, need to do bloods

Thanks for the feedback brother, bloodwork done and they shows high E2 so i increase my AI dosage, will update next week after doing bloodwork again.

Updated plan:
Aromasin 10 2x week
HCG STOPPED (last 250ui on Monday).

 

[LevButlerov]

Yes, took Aromasin and will take another 10mg on Thursd.

I will also stop HCG use (actually i do 250ui twice a week), so E2 can drop faster and eventually i will use it at the last part of the cycle (not sure yet if needed, i will anyway do PCT).

you should stop the hcg for sure and instead of pct arent you doing TRT? @Pepty

 

[Pepty]

you should stop the hcg for sure and instead of pct arent you doing TRT? @Pepty

No Lev, I’m not doing TRT

 

[Pepty]

Currently this is my recap on my workout weight from the start (20 Jan):

DAY 1 - PUSH A

Chest Press Barbell - 4x6-8 - 22.5 kg → 30kg
Seated DB Shoulder Press - 4x8-10 - 12.5 kg → 17.5kg
Incline DB Fly - 3x10-12 - 10 kg → 15kg
Dips - 3x8-10 - 28 kg → 14kg -> no assistence
Rear Lunges - 4x10 - 15kg
Cable Lateral Raise - 3x12-15 - 2.5 kg
Core: Plank - 3x max hold -

DAY 2 - PULL A

Trap Bar Deadlift - 4x5-6 - 37.5 kg → 45kg
One Arm DB Row - 4x8-10 - 20 kg → 25kg
Neutral Grip Lat Pulldown - 4x10-12 - 40 kg → 50kg
Face Pulls - 3x15-20 - 15 kg → 20kg
EZ Bar Curl - 3x10-12 - 5 kg → 7.5kg
Hammer Curl - 3x12 - 10 kg

These are my first two days, I will post on Fridays the next update

Worth to say that the weight on the barbell exercise refers to each side, for example Chest Press total: 30 + 30 (+20 Barbell).
Hope to reach 100kg next months!

Planning to change my workout plan next week, I want to try a workout I’ve seen on another thread and I like it a lot.

Day 1 – Chest & Triceps
• Bench Press (bilanciere) – 4×6–8
• Incline DB Press – 3×8–10
• Cable/DB Chest Fly – 3×12–15
• Dips (zavorrate se puoi) – 2×8–12
• Tricep Pushdown – 3×10–15
• Overhead DB Tricep Extension – 2×10–12

Day 2 – Back & Biceps
• Pull‑Ups (zavorrate se puoi) – 4×6–8
• Barbell Row – 3×8–10
• Lat Pulldown (wide grip) – 3×10–12
• Seated Cable Row – 3×10–12
• Face Pulls – 3×15–20
• Barbell Curl – 3×8–10
• Hammer Curl – 3×10–12

Day 3 REST / CARDIO

Day 4 – Legs & Abs
• Back Squat – 4×6–8
• Leg Press – 4×10–12
• Romanian Deadlift – 3×8–10
• Leg Curl – 3×12–15
• Standing Calf Raises – 5×12–20
• Hanging Leg Raises – 3×15
• Cable Crunch – 3×15–20
• Plank – 3×max

Day 5 – Shoulders & Traps
• Military Press – 4×5–6
• DB Lateral Raises – 4×12–15
• Rear Delt Fly – 3×12–15
• Face Pulls – 3×15–20
• Barbell Shrugs – 4×8–10

It’s basically the same workout plan of this beast @MarshMonsta, didn’t want to copy/paste but I love it so I’ll be honest, i just did little changes:

1. Increased little bit the volume
2. Added face pulls (I like those for posture)
3. Rep range lowered to focus on strength on the multiarticular

I’m missing the day dedicated to Legs and I’m excited to start this the next week!

 

[Kopite67]

Currently this is my recap on my workout weight from the start (20 Jan):

DAY 1 - PUSH A

Chest Press Barbell - 4x6-8 - 22.5 kg → 30kg
Seated DB Shoulder Press - 4x8-10 - 12.5 kg → 17.5kg
Incline DB Fly - 3x10-12 - 10 kg → 15kg
Dips - 3x8-10 - 28 kg → 14kg -> no assistence
Rear Lunges - 4x10 - 15kg
Cable Lateral Raise - 3x12-15 - 2.5 kg
Core: Plank - 3x max hold -

DAY 2 - PULL A

Trap Bar Deadlift - 4x5-6 - 37.5 kg → 45kg
One Arm DB Row - 4x8-10 - 20 kg → 25kg
Neutral Grip Lat Pulldown - 4x10-12 - 40 kg → 50kg
Face Pulls - 3x15-20 - 15 kg → 20kg
EZ Bar Curl - 3x10-12 - 5 kg → 7.5kg
Hammer Curl - 3x12 - 10 kg

These are my first two days, I will post on Fridays the next update

Worth to say that the weight on the barbell exercise refers to each side, for example Chest Press total: 30 + 30 (+20 Barbell).
Hope to reach 100kg next months!

Planning to change my workout plan next week, I want to try a workout I’ve seen on another thread and I like it a lot.

Day 1 – Chest & Triceps
• Bench Press (bilanciere) – 4×6–8
• Incline DB Press – 3×8–10
• Cable/DB Chest Fly – 3×12–15
• Dips (zavorrate se puoi) – 2×8–12
• Tricep Pushdown – 3×10–15
• Overhead DB Tricep Extension – 2×10–12

Day 2 – Back & Biceps
• Pull‑Ups (zavorrate se puoi) – 4×6–8
• Barbell Row – 3×8–10
• Lat Pulldown (wide grip) – 3×10–12
• Seated Cable Row – 3×10–12
• Face Pulls – 3×15–20
• Barbell Curl – 3×8–10
• Hammer Curl – 3×10–12

Day 3 REST / CARDIO

Day 4 – Legs & Abs
• Back Squat – 4×6–8
• Leg Press – 4×10–12
• Romanian Deadlift – 3×8–10
• Leg Curl – 3×12–15
• Standing Calf Raises – 5×12–20
• Hanging Leg Raises – 3×15
• Cable Crunch – 3×15–20
• Plank – 3×max

Day 5 – Shoulders & Traps
• Military Press – 4×5–6
• DB Lateral Raises – 4×12–15
• Rear Delt Fly – 3×12–15
• Face Pulls – 3×15–20
• Barbell Shrugs – 4×8–10

It’s basically the same workout plan of this beast @MarshMonsta, didn’t want to copy/paste but I love it so I’ll be honest, i just did little changes:

1. Increased little bit the volume
2. Added face pulls (I like those for posture)
3. Rep range lowered to focus on strength on the multiarticular

I’m missing the day dedicated to Legs and I’m excited to start this the next week!

Nice update brother. Might be easier to add all the weights together for simplicity sake

 

[Pepty]

Nice update brother. Might be easier to add all the weights together for simplicity sake

Yes I just thought about this “little” detail after 1 month of posting updates
Will do next updates!

 

[LevButlerov]

No Lev, I’m not doing TRT

You should post cycle

 

[LevButlerov]

Currently this is my recap on my workout weight from the start (20 Jan):

DAY 1 - PUSH A

Chest Press Barbell - 4x6-8 - 22.5 kg → 30kg
Seated DB Shoulder Press - 4x8-10 - 12.5 kg → 17.5kg
Incline DB Fly - 3x10-12 - 10 kg → 15kg
Dips - 3x8-10 - 28 kg → 14kg -> no assistence
Rear Lunges - 4x10 - 15kg
Cable Lateral Raise - 3x12-15 - 2.5 kg
Core: Plank - 3x max hold -

DAY 2 - PULL A

Trap Bar Deadlift - 4x5-6 - 37.5 kg → 45kg
One Arm DB Row - 4x8-10 - 20 kg → 25kg
Neutral Grip Lat Pulldown - 4x10-12 - 40 kg → 50kg
Face Pulls - 3x15-20 - 15 kg → 20kg
EZ Bar Curl - 3x10-12 - 5 kg → 7.5kg
Hammer Curl - 3x12 - 10 kg

These are my first two days, I will post on Fridays the next update

Worth to say that the weight on the barbell exercise refers to each side, for example Chest Press total: 30 + 30 (+20 Barbell).
Hope to reach 100kg next months!

Planning to change my workout plan next week, I want to try a workout I’ve seen on another thread and I like it a lot.

Day 1 – Chest & Triceps
• Bench Press (bilanciere) – 4×6–8
• Incline DB Press – 3×8–10
• Cable/DB Chest Fly – 3×12–15
• Dips (zavorrate se puoi) – 2×8–12
• Tricep Pushdown – 3×10–15
• Overhead DB Tricep Extension – 2×10–12

Day 2 – Back & Biceps
• Pull‑Ups (zavorrate se puoi) – 4×6–8
• Barbell Row – 3×8–10
• Lat Pulldown (wide grip) – 3×10–12
• Seated Cable Row – 3×10–12
• Face Pulls – 3×15–20
• Barbell Curl – 3×8–10
• Hammer Curl – 3×10–12

Day 3 REST / CARDIO

Day 4 – Legs & Abs
• Back Squat – 4×6–8
• Leg Press – 4×10–12
• Romanian Deadlift – 3×8–10
• Leg Curl – 3×12–15
• Standing Calf Raises – 5×12–20
• Hanging Leg Raises – 3×15
• Cable Crunch – 3×15–20
• Plank – 3×max

Day 5 – Shoulders & Traps
• Military Press – 4×5–6
• DB Lateral Raises – 4×12–15
• Rear Delt Fly – 3×12–15
• Face Pulls – 3×15–20
• Barbell Shrugs – 4×8–10

It’s basically the same workout plan of this beast @MarshMonsta, didn’t want to copy/paste but I love it so I’ll be honest, i just did little changes:

1. Increased little bit the volume
2. Added face pulls (I like those for posture)
3. Rep range lowered to focus on strength on the multiarticular

I’m missing the day dedicated to Legs and I’m excited to start this the next week!

weights moving nicely @Pepty but if you want to copy the beast @MarshMonsta hes next level!

 

[stevesmi]

Currently this is my recap on my workout weight from the start (20 Jan):

DAY 1 - PUSH A

Chest Press Barbell - 4x6-8 - 22.5 kg → 30kg
Seated DB Shoulder Press - 4x8-10 - 12.5 kg → 17.5kg
Incline DB Fly - 3x10-12 - 10 kg → 15kg
Dips - 3x8-10 - 28 kg → 14kg -> no assistence
Rear Lunges - 4x10 - 15kg
Cable Lateral Raise - 3x12-15 - 2.5 kg
Core: Plank - 3x max hold -

DAY 2 - PULL A

Trap Bar Deadlift - 4x5-6 - 37.5 kg → 45kg
One Arm DB Row - 4x8-10 - 20 kg → 25kg
Neutral Grip Lat Pulldown - 4x10-12 - 40 kg → 50kg
Face Pulls - 3x15-20 - 15 kg → 20kg
EZ Bar Curl - 3x10-12 - 5 kg → 7.5kg
Hammer Curl - 3x12 - 10 kg

These are my first two days, I will post on Fridays the next update

Worth to say that the weight on the barbell exercise refers to each side, for example Chest Press total: 30 + 30 (+20 Barbell).
Hope to reach 100kg next months!

Planning to change my workout plan next week, I want to try a workout I’ve seen on another thread and I like it a lot.

Day 1 – Chest & Triceps
• Bench Press (bilanciere) – 4×6–8
• Incline DB Press – 3×8–10
• Cable/DB Chest Fly – 3×12–15
• Dips (zavorrate se puoi) – 2×8–12
• Tricep Pushdown – 3×10–15
• Overhead DB Tricep Extension – 2×10–12

Day 2 – Back & Biceps
• Pull‑Ups (zavorrate se puoi) – 4×6–8
• Barbell Row – 3×8–10
• Lat Pulldown (wide grip) – 3×10–12
• Seated Cable Row – 3×10–12
• Face Pulls – 3×15–20
• Barbell Curl – 3×8–10
• Hammer Curl – 3×10–12

Day 3 REST / CARDIO

Day 4 – Legs & Abs
• Back Squat – 4×6–8
• Leg Press – 4×10–12
• Romanian Deadlift – 3×8–10
• Leg Curl – 3×12–15
• Standing Calf Raises – 5×12–20
• Hanging Leg Raises – 3×15
• Cable Crunch – 3×15–20
• Plank – 3×max

Day 5 – Shoulders & Traps
• Military Press – 4×5–6
• DB Lateral Raises – 4×12–15
• Rear Delt Fly – 3×12–15
• Face Pulls – 3×15–20
• Barbell Shrugs – 4×8–10

It’s basically the same workout plan of this beast @MarshMonsta, didn’t want to copy/paste but I love it so I’ll be honest, i just did little changes:

1. Increased little bit the volume
2. Added face pulls (I like those for posture)
3. Rep range lowered to focus on strength on the multiarticular

I’m missing the day dedicated to Legs and I’m excited to start this the next week!

@Pepty great job on the legs and abs. This is a great workout you're putting together. I like how you split it up.

 

[Mobster]

Nice to see progress pretty much across the board.

 

[ROIDDERS]

Currently this is my recap on my workout weight from the start (20 Jan):

DAY 1 - PUSH A

Chest Press Barbell - 4x6-8 - 22.5 kg → 30kg
Seated DB Shoulder Press - 4x8-10 - 12.5 kg → 17.5kg
Incline DB Fly - 3x10-12 - 10 kg → 15kg
Dips - 3x8-10 - 28 kg → 14kg -> no assistence
Rear Lunges - 4x10 - 15kg
Cable Lateral Raise - 3x12-15 - 2.5 kg
Core: Plank - 3x max hold -

DAY 2 - PULL A

Trap Bar Deadlift - 4x5-6 - 37.5 kg → 45kg
One Arm DB Row - 4x8-10 - 20 kg → 25kg
Neutral Grip Lat Pulldown - 4x10-12 - 40 kg → 50kg
Face Pulls - 3x15-20 - 15 kg → 20kg
EZ Bar Curl - 3x10-12 - 5 kg → 7.5kg
Hammer Curl - 3x12 - 10 kg

These are my first two days, I will post on Fridays the next update

Worth to say that the weight on the barbell exercise refers to each side, for example Chest Press total: 30 + 30 (+20 Barbell).
Hope to reach 100kg next months!

Planning to change my workout plan next week, I want to try a workout I’ve seen on another thread and I like it a lot.

Day 1 – Chest & Triceps
• Bench Press (bilanciere) – 4×6–8
• Incline DB Press – 3×8–10
• Cable/DB Chest Fly – 3×12–15
• Dips (zavorrate se puoi) – 2×8–12
• Tricep Pushdown – 3×10–15
• Overhead DB Tricep Extension – 2×10–12

Day 2 – Back & Biceps
• Pull‑Ups (zavorrate se puoi) – 4×6–8
• Barbell Row – 3×8–10
• Lat Pulldown (wide grip) – 3×10–12
• Seated Cable Row – 3×10–12
• Face Pulls – 3×15–20
• Barbell Curl – 3×8–10
• Hammer Curl – 3×10–12

Day 3 REST / CARDIO

Day 4 – Legs & Abs
• Back Squat – 4×6–8
• Leg Press – 4×10–12
• Romanian Deadlift – 3×8–10
• Leg Curl – 3×12–15
• Standing Calf Raises – 5×12–20
• Hanging Leg Raises – 3×15
• Cable Crunch – 3×15–20
• Plank – 3×max

Day 5 – Shoulders & Traps
• Military Press – 4×5–6
• DB Lateral Raises – 4×12–15
• Rear Delt Fly – 3×12–15
• Face Pulls – 3×15–20
• Barbell Shrugs – 4×8–10

It’s basically the same workout plan of this beast @MarshMonsta, didn’t want to copy/paste but I love it so I’ll be honest, i just did little changes:

1. Increased little bit the volume
2. Added face pulls (I like those for posture)
3. Rep range lowered to focus on strength on the multiarticular

I’m missing the day dedicated to Legs and I’m excited to start this the next week!

Can't wait to see your leg day and you kicking ass. You're spreading the knowledge. These are some great workouts that other people can copy but it's really a strong volume training. @Pepty

 

[ceo]

Currently this is my recap on my workout weight from the start (20 Jan):

DAY 1 - PUSH A

Chest Press Barbell - 4x6-8 - 22.5 kg → 30kg
Seated DB Shoulder Press - 4x8-10 - 12.5 kg → 17.5kg
Incline DB Fly - 3x10-12 - 10 kg → 15kg
Dips - 3x8-10 - 28 kg → 14kg -> no assistence
Rear Lunges - 4x10 - 15kg
Cable Lateral Raise - 3x12-15 - 2.5 kg
Core: Plank - 3x max hold -

DAY 2 - PULL A

Trap Bar Deadlift - 4x5-6 - 37.5 kg → 45kg
One Arm DB Row - 4x8-10 - 20 kg → 25kg
Neutral Grip Lat Pulldown - 4x10-12 - 40 kg → 50kg
Face Pulls - 3x15-20 - 15 kg → 20kg
EZ Bar Curl - 3x10-12 - 5 kg → 7.5kg
Hammer Curl - 3x12 - 10 kg

These are my first two days, I will post on Fridays the next update

Worth to say that the weight on the barbell exercise refers to each side, for example Chest Press total: 30 + 30 (+20 Barbell).
Hope to reach 100kg next months!

Planning to change my workout plan next week, I want to try a workout I’ve seen on another thread and I like it a lot.

Day 1 – Chest & Triceps
• Bench Press (bilanciere) – 4×6–8
• Incline DB Press – 3×8–10
• Cable/DB Chest Fly – 3×12–15
• Dips (zavorrate se puoi) – 2×8–12
• Tricep Pushdown – 3×10–15
• Overhead DB Tricep Extension – 2×10–12

Day 2 – Back & Biceps
• Pull‑Ups (zavorrate se puoi) – 4×6–8
• Barbell Row – 3×8–10
• Lat Pulldown (wide grip) – 3×10–12
• Seated Cable Row – 3×10–12
• Face Pulls – 3×15–20
• Barbell Curl – 3×8–10
• Hammer Curl – 3×10–12

Day 3 REST / CARDIO

Day 4 – Legs & Abs
• Back Squat – 4×6–8
• Leg Press – 4×10–12
• Romanian Deadlift – 3×8–10
• Leg Curl – 3×12–15
• Standing Calf Raises – 5×12–20
• Hanging Leg Raises – 3×15
• Cable Crunch – 3×15–20
• Plank – 3×max

Day 5 – Shoulders & Traps
• Military Press – 4×5–6
• DB Lateral Raises – 4×12–15
• Rear Delt Fly – 3×12–15
• Face Pulls – 3×15–20
• Barbell Shrugs – 4×8–10

It’s basically the same workout plan of this beast @MarshMonsta, didn’t want to copy/paste but I love it so I’ll be honest, i just did little changes:

1. Increased little bit the volume
2. Added face pulls (I like those for posture)
3. Rep range lowered to focus on strength on the multiarticular

I’m missing the day dedicated to Legs and I’m excited to start this the next week!

Bros, definitely good. I like your leg and ab day. @Pepty and I got a lot of respect that your rest day still involves cardio. That's a real warrior right there.

 

[Pepty]

Thanks guys for the feedback!


I’m living my second puberty and with it comes acne; some is coming (just little bit) on my back.

Worth to start right now with Accutane?
Ive ready that it takes lot of time to fix the issue.. or any other suggestion?

I’ve read that also Benzoile perossido 10% can help?

Thanks!

 

[Ulter]

Currently this is my recap on my workout weight from the start (20 Jan):

DAY 1 - PUSH A

Chest Press Barbell - 4x6-8 - 22.5 kg → 30kg
Seated DB Shoulder Press - 4x8-10 - 12.5 kg → 17.5kg
Incline DB Fly - 3x10-12 - 10 kg → 15kg
Dips - 3x8-10 - 28 kg → 14kg -> no assistence
Rear Lunges - 4x10 - 15kg
Cable Lateral Raise - 3x12-15 - 2.5 kg
Core: Plank - 3x max hold -

DAY 2 - PULL A

Trap Bar Deadlift - 4x5-6 - 37.5 kg → 45kg
One Arm DB Row - 4x8-10 - 20 kg → 25kg
Neutral Grip Lat Pulldown - 4x10-12 - 40 kg → 50kg
Face Pulls - 3x15-20 - 15 kg → 20kg
EZ Bar Curl - 3x10-12 - 5 kg → 7.5kg
Hammer Curl - 3x12 - 10 kg

These are my first two days, I will post on Fridays the next update

Worth to say that the weight on the barbell exercise refers to each side, for example Chest Press total: 30 + 30 (+20 Barbell).
Hope to reach 100kg next months!

Planning to change my workout plan next week, I want to try a workout I’ve seen on another thread and I like it a lot.

Day 1 – Chest & Triceps
• Bench Press (bilanciere) – 4×6–8
• Incline DB Press – 3×8–10
• Cable/DB Chest Fly – 3×12–15
• Dips (zavorrate se puoi) – 2×8–12
• Tricep Pushdown – 3×10–15
• Overhead DB Tricep Extension – 2×10–12

Day 2 – Back & Biceps
• Pull‑Ups (zavorrate se puoi) – 4×6–8
• Barbell Row – 3×8–10
• Lat Pulldown (wide grip) – 3×10–12
• Seated Cable Row – 3×10–12
• Face Pulls – 3×15–20
• Barbell Curl – 3×8–10
• Hammer Curl – 3×10–12

Day 3 REST / CARDIO

Day 4 – Legs & Abs
• Back Squat – 4×6–8
• Leg Press – 4×10–12
• Romanian Deadlift – 3×8–10
• Leg Curl – 3×12–15
• Standing Calf Raises – 5×12–20
• Hanging Leg Raises – 3×15
• Cable Crunch – 3×15–20
• Plank – 3×max

Day 5 – Shoulders & Traps
• Military Press – 4×5–6
• DB Lateral Raises – 4×12–15
• Rear Delt Fly – 3×12–15
• Face Pulls – 3×15–20
• Barbell Shrugs – 4×8–10

It’s basically the same workout plan of this beast @MarshMonsta, didn’t want to copy/paste but I love it so I’ll be honest, i just did little changes:

1. Increased little bit the volume
2. Added face pulls (I like those for posture)
3. Rep range lowered to focus on strength on the multiarticular

I’m missing the day dedicated to Legs and I’m excited to start this the next week!

@Pepty you'll never go wrong with an excellent leg and ab day. That's what I like to see. Just be careful when you're hitting your shoulders. You don't want to overdo it on the military presses and end up tearing a shoulder.

 

[2Thick]

Currently this is my recap on my workout weight from the start (20 Jan):

DAY 1 - PUSH A

Chest Press Barbell - 4x6-8 - 22.5 kg → 30kg
Seated DB Shoulder Press - 4x8-10 - 12.5 kg → 17.5kg
Incline DB Fly - 3x10-12 - 10 kg → 15kg
Dips - 3x8-10 - 28 kg → 14kg -> no assistence
Rear Lunges - 4x10 - 15kg
Cable Lateral Raise - 3x12-15 - 2.5 kg
Core: Plank - 3x max hold -

DAY 2 - PULL A

Trap Bar Deadlift - 4x5-6 - 37.5 kg → 45kg
One Arm DB Row - 4x8-10 - 20 kg → 25kg
Neutral Grip Lat Pulldown - 4x10-12 - 40 kg → 50kg
Face Pulls - 3x15-20 - 15 kg → 20kg
EZ Bar Curl - 3x10-12 - 5 kg → 7.5kg
Hammer Curl - 3x12 - 10 kg

These are my first two days, I will post on Fridays the next update

Worth to say that the weight on the barbell exercise refers to each side, for example Chest Press total: 30 + 30 (+20 Barbell).
Hope to reach 100kg next months!

Planning to change my workout plan next week, I want to try a workout I’ve seen on another thread and I like it a lot.

Day 1 – Chest & Triceps
• Bench Press (bilanciere) – 4×6–8
• Incline DB Press – 3×8–10
• Cable/DB Chest Fly – 3×12–15
• Dips (zavorrate se puoi) – 2×8–12
• Tricep Pushdown – 3×10–15
• Overhead DB Tricep Extension – 2×10–12

Day 2 – Back & Biceps
• Pull‑Ups (zavorrate se puoi) – 4×6–8
• Barbell Row – 3×8–10
• Lat Pulldown (wide grip) – 3×10–12
• Seated Cable Row – 3×10–12
• Face Pulls – 3×15–20
• Barbell Curl – 3×8–10
• Hammer Curl – 3×10–12

Day 3 REST / CARDIO

Day 4 – Legs & Abs
• Back Squat – 4×6–8
• Leg Press – 4×10–12
• Romanian Deadlift – 3×8–10
• Leg Curl – 3×12–15
• Standing Calf Raises – 5×12–20
• Hanging Leg Raises – 3×15
• Cable Crunch – 3×15–20
• Plank – 3×max

Day 5 – Shoulders & Traps
• Military Press – 4×5–6
• DB Lateral Raises – 4×12–15
• Rear Delt Fly – 3×12–15
• Face Pulls – 3×15–20
• Barbell Shrugs – 4×8–10

It’s basically the same workout plan of this beast @MarshMonsta, didn’t want to copy/paste but I love it so I’ll be honest, i just did little changes:

1. Increased little bit the volume
2. Added face pulls (I like those for posture)
3. Rep range lowered to focus on strength on the multiarticular

I’m missing the day dedicated to Legs and I’m excited to start this the next week!

The legs and abs look fantastic and I like how you finish out the workout with some planks. That's a really good one. @Pepty

 

[RoySimpson]

Currently this is my recap on my workout weight from the start (20 Jan):

DAY 1 - PUSH A

Chest Press Barbell - 4x6-8 - 22.5 kg → 30kg
Seated DB Shoulder Press - 4x8-10 - 12.5 kg → 17.5kg
Incline DB Fly - 3x10-12 - 10 kg → 15kg
Dips - 3x8-10 - 28 kg → 14kg -> no assistence
Rear Lunges - 4x10 - 15kg
Cable Lateral Raise - 3x12-15 - 2.5 kg
Core: Plank - 3x max hold -

DAY 2 - PULL A

Trap Bar Deadlift - 4x5-6 - 37.5 kg → 45kg
One Arm DB Row - 4x8-10 - 20 kg → 25kg
Neutral Grip Lat Pulldown - 4x10-12 - 40 kg → 50kg
Face Pulls - 3x15-20 - 15 kg → 20kg
EZ Bar Curl - 3x10-12 - 5 kg → 7.5kg
Hammer Curl - 3x12 - 10 kg

These are my first two days, I will post on Fridays the next update

Worth to say that the weight on the barbell exercise refers to each side, for example Chest Press total: 30 + 30 (+20 Barbell).
Hope to reach 100kg next months!

Planning to change my workout plan next week, I want to try a workout I’ve seen on another thread and I like it a lot.

Day 1 – Chest & Triceps
• Bench Press (bilanciere) – 4×6–8
• Incline DB Press – 3×8–10
• Cable/DB Chest Fly – 3×12–15
• Dips (zavorrate se puoi) – 2×8–12
• Tricep Pushdown – 3×10–15
• Overhead DB Tricep Extension – 2×10–12

Day 2 – Back & Biceps
• Pull‑Ups (zavorrate se puoi) – 4×6–8
• Barbell Row – 3×8–10
• Lat Pulldown (wide grip) – 3×10–12
• Seated Cable Row – 3×10–12
• Face Pulls – 3×15–20
• Barbell Curl – 3×8–10
• Hammer Curl – 3×10–12

Day 3 REST / CARDIO

Day 4 – Legs & Abs
• Back Squat – 4×6–8
• Leg Press – 4×10–12
• Romanian Deadlift – 3×8–10
• Leg Curl – 3×12–15
• Standing Calf Raises – 5×12–20
• Hanging Leg Raises – 3×15
• Cable Crunch – 3×15–20
• Plank – 3×max

Day 5 – Shoulders & Traps
• Military Press – 4×5–6
• DB Lateral Raises – 4×12–15
• Rear Delt Fly – 3×12–15
• Face Pulls – 3×15–20
• Barbell Shrugs – 4×8–10

It’s basically the same workout plan of this beast @MarshMonsta, didn’t want to copy/paste but I love it so I’ll be honest, i just did little changes:

1. Increased little bit the volume
2. Added face pulls (I like those for posture)
3. Rep range lowered to focus on strength on the multiarticular

I’m missing the day dedicated to Legs and I’m excited to start this the next week!

@Pepty Awesome workouts right here!

 

[Pepty]

My bloodwork results of today:

Prolactin is now good, E2 still high, it was 148 but after HCG drop and AI 20mg week (i was on 20mg a week) it decreased; i will start 20mg today and thursday and bloodwork again next monday, hoping to not crush my E2 too much ^^'


Today my first day of new workout, super good; wasn't at 100% (woke up early to do blood works, i'm used to train at midday):


Bench Press – 4×6–8 – 30 kg
Incline DB Press – 3×8–10 – 25 kg
DB Chest Fly – 3×12–15 – 12.5 kg
Dips – 2×8–12 – BW
Tricep Pushdown – 3×10–15 – 17.5kg
Cable overhead Tricep Extension – 2×10–12 – 7.5

Currently i lowered my GH dose to 2ui day, i need to eliminate this water retention caused by E2 but also GH caused me that, so...

Have a nice day everyone!

 

[LevButlerov]

My bloodwork results of today:

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Prolactin is now good, E2 still high, it was 148 but after HCG drop and AI 20mg week (i was on 20mg a week) it decreased; i will start 20mg today and thursday and bloodwork again next monday, hoping to not crush my E2 too much ^^'


Today my first day of new workout, super good; wasn't at 100% (woke up early to do blood works, i'm used to train at midday):


Bench Press – 4×6–8 – 30 kg
Incline DB Press – 3×8–10 – 25 kg
DB Chest Fly – 3×12–15 – 12.5 kg
Dips – 2×8–12 – BW
Tricep Pushdown – 3×10–15 – 17.5kg
Cable overhead Tricep Extension – 2×10–12 – 7.5

Currently i lowered my GH dose to 2ui day, i need to eliminate this water retention caused by E2 but also GH caused me that, so...

Have a nice day everyone!

e2 still high @Pepty are you sure you taking aromasin correct?

 

[Pepty]

Yes i increased to 20mg yesterday and will do again 20mg on Thursday and assess from there Lev, i will do again bloodwork on Monday ( i receive the results same day so i will be able to assess directly on Monday).

I take it with a fat meal (25 - 30 gr of fat are enough as far as i've read).

My doubt is: if i will be in range, will i need to continue 20mg e3.5 days or i should decrease to 10 eod maybe?