Approved Log 2nd Cycle Para Pharma Long Stack Test/Tren/Mast Log

[steadfastsavage]

Looking at doing a second cycle. My last was a test only cycle. I’m currently on a TRT dose of 200mg a week and was doing a cycle of 500 a week for 12 weeks up until about a month ago. It went well with my main side effect being some acne on my back which wasn’t fun and I’m still dealing with.

Trying to plan what’s next and when. I went from 158lbs at about 7% bf to 201 and now down to 191lbs at about 12% bf. Looking to continue bulking but want more or a lean bulk/recomp than this last cycle. Test has me feeling and looking more puffy than I want and the acne on my back is something I’d like to avoid if possible.

What’s next? I was looking at Tren E to combine with the test in a 1/1 dose with my existing TRT base. Is that even a thing?

Supps will remain the same:

Multi
Fish oil
Nguard 7 caps
Vit d

Just starting the planning. Would love to keep injections to 2x per week if possible and open to orals if there is something that would be a good. Looking for recommendations on what could be good for a second cycle based on these parameters and when I may want to consider starting.

Thanks in advance guys!

 

[s.gentz]

Looking at doing a second cycle. My last was a test only cycle. I’m currently on a TRT dose of 200mg a week and was doing a cycle of 500 a week for 12 weeks up until about a month ago. It went well with my main side effect being some acne on my back which wasn’t fun and I’m still dealing with.

Trying to plan what’s next and when. I went from 158lbs at about 7% bf to 201 and now down to 191lbs at about 12% bf. Looking to continue bulking but want more or a lean bulk/recomp than this last cycle. Test has me feeling and looking more puffy than I want and the acne on my back is something I’d like to avoid if possible.

What’s next? I was looking at Tren E to combine with the test in a 1/1 dose with my existing TRT base. Is that even a thing?

Supps will remain the same:

Multi
Fish oil
Nguard 7 caps
Vit d

Just starting the planning. Would love to keep injections to 2x per week if possible and open to orals if there is something that would be a good. Looking for recommendations on what could be good for a second cycle based on these parameters and when I may want to consider starting.

Thanks in advance guys!

Tren is an advanced steroid. I would hold off until you have a little more cycle experience u see your belt.
How about test/eq or test/deca.

 

[steadfastsavage]

Tren is an advanced steroid. I would hold off until you have a little more cycle experience u see your belt.
How about test/eq or test/deca.

That’s exactly why I’m here. You guys all guided me very well with my diet, cycle and training last time and I want the next level now that I know how I respond to the test c I’ve been on. I’ll do some research on EQ and Deca to start with based on this suggestion.

How long would you suggest I wait before cycling again since I maintain a trt dose of 200mg and no pct needed?

 

[Noah Wixx]

That’s exactly why I’m here. You guys all guided me very well with my diet, cycle and training last time and I want the next level now that I know how I respond to the test c I’ve been on. I’ll do some research on EQ and Deca to start with based on this suggestion.

How long would you suggest I wait before cycling again since I maintain a trt dose of 200mg and no pct needed?

If you plan on utilizing a Nandrolone compound I would look into Npp and adding in atleast 25mg of proviron balance out the dht/dhn in the body.

Npp reason being is if it doesn't agree with you it's a shorter ester and can clear the system in a few weeks time, decca however can remain for months in the body, just something to think about.

Many people sleep on proviron it is a powerhouse component that I would recommend adding into a cycle.

EQ is a slow burn and you need to run it ( imo of course atleast 16 weeks for a real true benefit. EQ is great for a recomp or lean bulk if done properly and diet is on point.

I would look into Test/EQ/Npp/proviron and add in aromasin as and AI I think that could be a damn good cycle.

I'd set it up like this, and it will vary for everyone.

Test E or C 300/350mg a week
EQ 300/400mg a week
NPP 200-/300mg a week
Proviron 25mg

that will give u some wiggle room, i typically run lower dosages for all my compounds, but that is just me.

Imo it's not how much mgs you take it's the synergy you create with utilizing all the compounds

personally I'd opt for the the 800mg total for the Test/Eq/Npp

300/300/200/25

We aren't looking for the home run here we are looking for gaining more experience and a quality hassle free cycle with minimal sides. Is my logic on that.


I would definitely hold off on tren it isn't something you should run out the gate, experiment with the less harsh compounds first get alot of experience in, then decide if tren is the right move for you.

Remember this is a marathon mo a sprint, long term steady gains we can keep is what we are after here.

 

[s.gentz]

That’s exactly why I’m here. You guys all guided me very well with my diet, cycle and training last time and I want the next level now that I know how I respond to the test c I’ve been on. I’ll do some research on EQ and Deca to start with based on this suggestion.

How long would you suggest I wait before cycling again since I maintain a trt dose of 200mg and no pct needed?

@Noah Wixx gave you a great reply.
As far as time off, a good rule of thumb is time on should be equal to time off. That being said you should also be making sure your bloods are good before proceeding even if it takes a little longer

 

[Noah Wixx]

@Noah Wixx gave you a great reply.
As far as time off, a good rule of thumb is time on should be equal to time off. That being said you should also be making sure your bloods are good before proceeding even if it takes a little longer

Excellent catch gentz I got so caught up in explaining it, I forgot to mention how important bloodwork is and imo is mandatory. Thanks adding that.

 

[steadfastsavage]

Your Information:

• Age: 38
• Height: 5’10”
• Weight: 190 lbs
• Body Fat % (estimated): ~12-15%?
• Training Experience (in years): 1.5

Training:

• 12 week program is all laid out. Please see attached images of the reps and sets day by day.

Diet:

• Daily Caloric Intake: 3030
• Macronutrient Split: 300g Protein / 300g Carbs / 70g Fat

Meal Plan:

• Breakfast: Oatmeal with protein/ Protein pancakes, MetRX Big 100 Protein Bar with Oikos Triple Zero Yogurt
• Lunch: Lean protein like canned chicken or tuna fish with sweet potato or jasmine rice and broccoli
• Dinner: very similar to lunch with lean ground beef/chicken/turkey with salad and a complex carb like rice or sweet potatoes.
• Snacks: Beef jerky and/or protein bars or other higher protein snacks. Try to limit these as most are not great. Much prefer sticking to real foods.

I will make sure my food logs are uploaded each day as I want you guys to hold me accountable if I am out of line with anything.

Supplements:

• N2Guard 7 caps
• Brain MD Brain & Body Power Max (This contains an Omega 3, Brain and Memory Power Boost, and Neurovite Plus. Pictures of package with supplement facts attached.)
• D.velop Vitamin D 2400iu
• Creatine 5g
• Preworkout

Blood Work:

• I have not done bloodwork since my last cycle but will be doing this before I start pinning anything other than my normal trt dose of 200mg/week.

Cycle Plan:

• Cycle Goals: Massive lean muscle growth
• Compounds Planned for Use: test c and ???
• Dosage and Frequency: prefer to pin 2x weekly but willing to do EOD if necessary.
• Cycle Length: 12 weeks?
• Post Cycle Therapy (if applicable): Will maintain trt dose of test c post cycle so will not need pct afaik.

Additional Notes/Goals:

• I am super open to ideas and love the input I’ve gotten here in the past. Looking for advice on diet, compounds, and training.
• Can a mod please change the title of the post and make this an official log?

 

[LevButlerov]

Your Information:

• Age: 38
• Height: 5’10”
• Weight: 190 lbs
• Body Fat % (estimated): ~12-15%?
• Training Experience (in years): 1.5

Training:

• 12 week program is all laid out. Please see attached images of the reps and sets day by day.

Diet:

• Daily Caloric Intake: 3030
• Macronutrient Split: 300g Protein / 300g Carbs / 70g Fat

Meal Plan:

• Breakfast: Oatmeal with protein/ Protein pancakes, MetRX Big 100 Protein Bar with Oikos Triple Zero Yogurt
• Lunch: Lean protein like canned chicken or tuna fish with sweet potato or jasmine rice and broccoli
• Dinner: very similar to lunch with lean ground beef/chicken/turkey with salad and a complex carb like rice or sweet potatoes.
• Snacks: Beef jerky and/or protein bars or other higher protein snacks. Try to limit these as most are not great. Much prefer sticking to real foods.

I will make sure my food logs are uploaded each day as I want you guys to hold me accountable if I am out of line with anything.

Supplements:

• N2Guard 7 caps
• Brain MD Brain & Body Power Max (This contains an Omega 3, Brain and Memory Power Boost, and Neurovite Plus. Pictures of package with supplement facts attached.)
• D.velop Vitamin D 2400iu
• Creatine 5g
• Preworkout

Blood Work:

• I have not done bloodwork since my last cycle but will be doing this before I start pinning anything other than my normal trt dose of 200mg/week.

Cycle Plan:

• Cycle Goals: Massive lean muscle growth
• Compounds Planned for Use: test c and ???
• Dosage and Frequency: prefer to pin 2x weekly but willing to do EOD if necessary.
• Cycle Length: 12 weeks?
• Post Cycle Therapy (if applicable): Will maintain trt dose of test c post cycle so will not need pct afaik.

Additional Notes/Goals:

• I am super open to ideas and love the input I’ve gotten here in the past. Looking for advice on diet, compounds, and training.
• Can a mod please change the title of the post and make this an official log?

@steadfastsavage approved the log, lets flow this in please

cycle plan
I think you can easily do a 500mgs testosterone cycle it would be perfect of a fit with your TRT if you ask me

+testosterone for high test
+anavar light 4 weeks to feel it 50mgs ed
pin 2x/week mon/thur

on the diet training
you've done the updates before so lets keep the updates coming please

I dont really think you need bloods since you're on TRT and you have n2guard, you look good and feel good so lets slam this cycle.

 

[steadfastsavage]

@steadfastsavage approved the log, lets flow this in please

cycle plan
I think you can easily do a 500mgs testosterone cycle it would be perfect of a fit with your TRT if you ask me

+testosterone for high test
+anavar light 4 weeks to feel it 50mgs ed
pin 2x/week mon/thur

on the diet training
you've done the updates before so lets keep the updates coming please

I dont really think you need bloods since you're on TRT and you have n2guard, you look good and feel good so lets slam this cycle.

Hey @LevButlerov,

500mg test c per week was my last cycle. Now I’m trying to clear up my back acne from that.

The test made me get moon face and just feel puffy everywhere. I added in aromasin for an ai and went 12 weeks but this time, I’d like to keep the trt dose and do somethinng else that may be a bit stronger with a leaner/harder look. Its been about 7 weeks now that I’ve been off the blast and back to my normal 200mg/week.

 

[Noah Wixx]

Hey @LevButlerov,

500mg test c per week was my last cycle. Now I’m trying to clear up my back acne from that.

The test made me get moon face and just feel puffy everywhere. I added in aromasin for an ai and went 12 weeks but this time, I’d like to keep the trt dose and do somethinng else that may be a bit stronger with a leaner/harder look. Its been about 7 weeks now that I’ve been off the blast and back to my normal 200mg/week.

Well masteron or winstrol will give u a grainy harder look but u got to be 10% bodtfst or lower for that. Don't overwhelm yourself pick compounds that line up with your goals.

 

[stevesmi]

I like it you've got a good base to work with now let's push this hard

 

[steadfastsavage]

I like it you've got a good base to work with now let's push this hard

Tren hard?

 

[LevButlerov]

Hey @LevButlerov,

500mg test c per week was my last cycle. Now I’m trying to clear up my back acne from that.

The test made me get moon face and just feel puffy everywhere. I added in aromasin for an ai and went 12 weeks but this time, I’d like to keep the trt dose and do somethinng else that may be a bit stronger with a leaner/harder look. Its been about 7 weeks now that I’ve been off the blast and back to my normal 200mg/week.

@steadfastsavage tren no need haha
but test and back acne you will likely get it from others

how about we go with sports TRT to start 300mgs test with trt to feel it

Tren hard?

 

[Mobster]

Bodyfat is more than 12%

 

[steadfastsavage]

Bodyfat is more than 12%

Hi @Mobster nice to see you too.

 

[ceo]

Bros this is going to be an Epic log
let's see if you can get back to where you were

 

[ROIDDERS]

you're gonna cut down and you're also gonna build more muscle
we got your back on this let's hit it

 

[steadfastsavage]

Workout this morning below. Food pic attached from last night. “Real Good” chicken lightly breaded with chickpea flour. It’s amazing. Low fat, low carb and high protein. Also some roasted root veggies.

Upper
Thu, Jul 25, 2024

Dip (Weighted)
Set 1 : 25 lb x 8
Set 2 : 25 lb x 8
Set 3 : 25 lb x 8

Dumbbell Row
Set 1 : 50 lb x 12
Set 2 : 50 lb x 12
Set 3 : 50 lb x 12

Overhead Press (Barbell)
Set 1 : 95 lb x 12
Set 2 : 95 lb x 12
Set 3 : 95 lb x 12

Bicep Curl (EZ Bar)
Set 1 : 70 lb x 12
Set 2 : 70 lb x 10
Set 3 : 70 lb x 10

Tricep Rope Push Down (Cable)
Set 1 : 50 lb x 12
Set 2 : 50 lb x 12
Set 3 : 50 lb x 12

Lateral Raise (Cable)
Set 1 : 10 lb x 12
Set 2 : 10 lb x 12
Set 3 : 10 lb x 12

Abs Crunch (Weighted)
Set 1 : 25 lb x 12
Set 2 : 25 lb x 12
Set 3 : 25 lb x 12

 

[chesty]

very excited to seeing this cycle
seems like you're doing it the right way

 

[Ulter]

I like how you're keeping your dosing very reasonable
don't use a lot of test, you don't like it

 

[steadfastsavage]

you're gonna cut down and you're also gonna build more muscle
we got your back on this let's hit it

Nobody wants me to use Tren. Last time I was posting, it seemed like everyone was on the Tren train. Everything I’m reading seems like Tren is incredible. Really still thinking about it. If I’m trying to get max gains and fat burning, is it really just not worth it with the sides? Sounds like there can be some mental health issues but by running test and a lower dose, it sounds like it helps keep that in check. Potential hair loss and acne (sounds the same as test) and Tren cough which sounds to be combatted by adding in caber? What else am I missing here? I’m never coming off trt so test production and needing to reproduce is not a thing for me.

Looking to really understand the risk vs reward here.

 

[StevenDarwinMD]

APPROVED LOG

 

[e2]

a lot of people get the moon face from testosterone
so just make sure you keep it at a trt dose you're doing it the right way

 

[steadfastsavage]

Nobody wants me to use Tren. Last time I was posting, it seemed like everyone was on the Tren train. Everything I’m reading seems like Tren is incredible. Really still thinking about it. If I’m trying to get max gains and fat burning, is it really just not worth it with the sides? Sounds like there can be some mental health issues but by running test and a lower dose, it sounds like it helps keep that in check. Potential hair loss and acne (sounds the same as test) and Tren cough which sounds to be combatted by adding in caber? What else am I missing here? I’m never coming off trt so test production and needing to reproduce is not a thing for me.

Looking to really understand the risk vs reward here.

Was really considering trying a1/1 dose test c and tren e at 300mg per week each. Thinking tren e due to desired injection frequency of 2x weekly. Looks like I can also grab some accutane from para pharma to keep the back acne in check. Not sure about caber frequency or dosing as I’m expecting you guys to talk me out of this.

 

[2Thick]

a lot of people will not even use testosterone on a cycle as a base
they'll use other steroids instead

 

[Vadim Fedorov]

mast and winstrol are good options
but save those until you get your body fat down

 

[Wootoom]

I like both primo and equipoise in your situation
it both are good for lean muscle and body fat loss

 

[JasonPriest]

this will be a very good log
I'm looking forward to following it

 

[BodyMonster34]

bro tren! tren ! tren!
i want to see it ! lol

 

[Quadsweep]

definitely add in some fasting
they'll get your insulin sensitivity back up

 

[steadfastsavage]

Breakfast log: see photo attached.

 

[steadfastsavage]

definitely add in some fasting
they'll get your insulin sensitivity back up

Totally open to this. How long do you suggest and do you recommend to do it on or the day before a rest day from training?

 

[steadfastsavage]

Have any of you used the “Long Stack” from Para Pharma? Looks like a 1/1/1 blend of test e, Tren e, and mast. I’m guessing it’s not recommended to do blends like that since individual doses can’t be adjusted?

 

[LevButlerov]

Breakfast log: see photo attached.

@steadfastsavage you woke up early nice bro

Totally open to this. How long do you suggest and do you recommend to do it on or the day before a rest day from training?

you can do 24 hours per week for fasting

 

[LevButlerov]

Have any of you used the “Long Stack” from Para Pharma? Looks like a 1/1/1 blend of test e, Tren e, and mast. I’m guessing it’s not recommended to do blends like that since individual doses can’t be adjusted?

@steadfastsavage long stack is nice test/tren/mast not bad, you can do 1/2 mls but remember blends can have PIP and some injection pain
if no issues for you pin it hard bro

you're pinning what now?

 

[steadfastsavage]

@steadfastsavage long stack is nice test/tren/mast not bad, you can do 1/2 mls but remember blends can have PIP and some injection pain
if no issues for you pin it hard bro

you're pinning what now?

Okay. I’m pinning 200mg per week (2x per week at 100mg per injection) of test c currently. I’m also taking 1 25mg tab of Arimidex on each injection day for an ai.

Why would blends have any additional pip or injection pain? I figured it was far easier this way than trying to combine things myself in one syringe.

If I decided to go with this long stack, is there anything you would do in addition?

 

[stevesmi]

Totally open to this. How long do you suggest and do you recommend to do it on or the day before a rest day from training?

check out the podcast i did on fasting, also check out my log on more info on it

you can do a dinner to dinner 24 hour fast for example

 

[LevButlerov]

Okay. I’m pinning 200mg per week (2x per week at 100mg per injection) of test c currently. I’m also taking 1 25mg tab of Arimidex on each injection day for an ai.

Why would blends have any additional pip or injection pain? I figured it was far easier this way than trying to combine things myself in one syringe.

If I decided to go with this long stack, is there anything you would do in addition?

how about you try 1/2 ml of the para pharma mix? per week 1/4th ml and 1/4th ml
slow addition and we can see how you feel

 

[steadfastsavage]

how about you try 1/2 ml of the para pharma mix? per week 1/4th ml and 1/4th ml
slow addition and we can see how you feel

Just combine it in the same syringe with my trt dose? If so, that would give me 250mg test, 50mg Tren e, and 50mg mast if I’m mathing correctly right?

Anything else you would add? I’d like to order everything I could want and need in the same order to keep it cheaper on shipping. Going to get some more aromasin 25 for ai (is the dose I’m taking good with 1 tab on each injection day) and accutane to help with the bacne. Going to place an order with ugfreak soon if this sounds like a good plan to others.

 

[Masonic Bodybuilder]

If you are looking to swap out protein bars, just hard boil a bunch of eggs. They are a great easy snack loaded with protein and good fats.

 

[LevButlerov]

Just combine it in the same syringe with my trt dose? If so, that would give me 250mg test, 50mg Tren e, and 50mg mast if I’m mathing correctly right?

Anything else you would add? I’d like to order everything I could want and need in the same order to keep it cheaper on shipping. Going to get some more aromasin 25 for ai (is the dose I’m taking good with 1 tab on each injection day) and accutane to help with the bacne. Going to place an order with ugfreak soon if this sounds like a good plan to others.

@steadfastsavage same syringe is fine no issues

doses are about right

and accutane, you sure you need it? because you can but it has liver issues
you try vitamin A B high doses with salt baths for it?

 

[steadfastsavage]

@steadfastsavage same syringe is fine no issues

doses are about right

and accutane, you sure you need it? because you can but it has liver issues
you try vitamin A B high doses with salt baths for it?

I have not tried any vitamin protocol for the bacne. Didn’t know about that. Just figured the accutane would be okay since I’m on n2guard for liver protection.

 

[steadfastsavage]

Here’s lunch and dinner details and a picture of my dinner. Lunch was not ideal as I had to go to a lunch meeting I didn’t know about. Definitely don’t love eating out but at least they had macro info to guide me (within reason).

 

[Mobster]

Have any of you used the “Long Stack” from Para Pharma? Looks like a 1/1/1 blend of test e, Tren e, and mast. I’m guessing it’s not recommended to do blends like that since individual doses can’t be adjusted?

Not everyone needs to adjust.

 

[Quadsweep]

long stack from para pharma is fire if you want long esters
they do the blend for you

 

[steadfastsavage]

long stack from para pharma is fire if you want long esters
they do the blend for you

I think I’m going to try this. Do you recommend just starting super low dose and keep doing my normal trt dose along with it like @LevButlerov suggested?

Was thinking it was really nice that I wouldn’t have to combine things myself but this negates that. What do you guys think about just starting with 1ml long stack each injection instead and NOT injecting my normal trt dose at all? Too much to jump in with?

 

[Austin316]

everything from para pharma is great
you will enjoy their stuff

 

[sambee38]

fasting is a great way to get some good benefits
autophagy will help you grow more size too

 

[BookerTNY]

i'm not a big fan of blends
i prefer to do on my own but a lot of guys like them

 

[Arabian]

accutane works well for most
But some people don't like the side effects so watch out for that

 

[Zyglamail]

nice food updates keep up the good work
try and avoid eating out that's the Killer

 

[Shrine]

if you're set on your dosing then Blends are fine
you can always switch things up regardless

 

[caligirl85]

good updates you're starting to put things together
this is the time to try some new things with this log

 

[zedhed]

can't wait to see your results
you are gonna be a beast

 

[steadfastsavage]

Breakfast log and photo attached.

 

[Noah Wixx]

Great base to work with forsure.

 

[Masonic Bodybuilder]

Those random work lunches can be brutal, lol.

 

[steadfastsavage]

Okay. Been doing a ton of research and went ahead and placed an order with UGFreak today.

I’m going to go hard with this. I know it’s probably overkill but I never did anything fun as a kid so I need to make up for it now.

My cycle:

4 weeks of 2ml weekly of long stack by para pharma followed by 8 weeks at 3ml per week if all goes well. Will start with 2 injections per week at 1ml per pin and will move to EOD as I titrate up to the higher dose after 4 weeks.

2x per day accutane tab for 250 days (gives the correct overall dose and will apparently prevent current and future acne problems).

Bought more aromasin (thinking I’ll run this at 1/2 tab per injection day unless I have any symptoms)

I need to get bloods done before going on cycle. Any recommendations?

Lunch and a snack log for today attached along with the ugfreak order.

Anything else I’m missing here?

 

[LevButlerov]

I think I’m going to try this. Do you recommend just starting super low dose and keep doing my normal trt dose along with it like @LevButlerov suggested?

Was thinking it was really nice that I wouldn’t have to combine things myself but this negates that. What do you guys think about just starting with 1ml long stack each injection instead and NOT injecting my normal trt dose at all? Too much to jump in with?

@steadfastsavage always start low dose bro and can always move up

you should use TRT and get extra into the mix

 

[LevButlerov]

Breakfast log and photo attached.

@steadfastsavage good breakfast

Okay. Been doing a ton of research and went ahead and placed an order with UGFreak today.

I’m going to go hard with this. I know it’s probably overkill but I never did anything fun as a kid so I need to make up for it now.

My cycle:

4 weeks of 2ml weekly of long stack by para pharma followed by 8 weeks at 3ml per week if all goes well. Will start with 2 injections per week at 1ml per pin and will move to EOD as I titrate up to the higher dose after 4 weeks.

2x per day accutane tab for 250 days (gives the correct overall dose and will apparently prevent current and future acne problems).

Bought more aromasin (thinking I’ll run this at 1/2 tab per injection day unless I have any symptoms)

I need to get bloods done before going on cycle. Any recommendations?

Lunch and a snack log for today attached along with the ugfreak order.

Anything else I’m missing here?

this is a good start, you have a good plan
but 2ml is too much to start, 1ml to start first 4 weeks feel it first, because you have tren in there right

bloods? no need you're on TRT already right

UGFreak is #1 you did right ordering from them

stay updated please

 

[steadfastsavage]

@steadfastsavage good breakfast


this is a good start, you have a good plan
but 2ml is too much to start, 1ml to start first 4 weeks feel it first, because you have tren in there right

bloods? no need you're on TRT already right

UGFreak is #1 you did right ordering from them

stay updated please

I’ll keep you updated for sure.

You think I should do 1ml for 4 weeks then 2ml for 4 weeks and then 3ml the last 4 weeks if it’s going well?

Since trt dose is currently 200mg weekly, for the 1st 4 weeks if I do things like laid out here should I do 100mg of my test cyp along with this cycle to start or what do you think?

I figured I should get bloods since I haven’t done any since starting trt just over 5 months ago. My trt is ugl as well so I only had doc to look at initial bloodwork and got a prescription and never went back as I went ugl.

 

[ballin2504]

Let’s get to work!

 

[steadfastsavage]

Dinner log and photo from last night attached.

Morning weigh in this morning was 189.4. Yesterday was a rest day but I’ll be going to the gym with all 6 kids in tow in just a bit and I’ll post the workout.

You guys think my calories and macros are good at 3030 calories and 300c/300p/70f? Want enough to build good muscle but don’t want to gain weight as fast as last time.

 

[Tiger Salman Khan]

Dinner log and photo from last night attached.

Morning weigh in this morning was 189.4. Yesterday was a rest day but I’ll be going to the gym with all 6 kids in tow in just a bit and I’ll post the workout.

You guys think my calories and macros are good at 3030 calories and 300c/300p/70f? Want enough to build good muscle but don’t want to gain weight as fast as last time.

@steadfastsavage Good update bro........

 

[steadfastsavage]

Breakfast and workout done. I accidentally forgot to copy the text on the workout and cannot get back to it for some reason. Photo attached instead. Sorry guys.

 

[steadfastsavage]

Just ordered my N2Guard for the next 3 months while I’m on cycle. Getting excited! Let’s GO!

Can anyone tell me more about Caber and if I should be adding this to my cycle? UGFreak didn’t have any and looks like Para Pharma doesn’t even make it which makes me feel like it can’t possibly be important.

 

[Eddie Haskell]

Breakfast and workout done. I accidentally forgot to copy the text on the workout and cannot get back to it for some reason. Photo attached instead. Sorry guys.

@steadfastsavage perfect man I like the meal clean

 

[Eddie Haskell]

Just ordered my N2Guard for the next 3 months while I’m on cycle. Getting excited! Let’s GO!

Can anyone tell me more about Caber and if I should be adding this to my cycle? UGFreak didn’t have any and looks like Para Pharma doesn’t even make it which makes me feel like it can’t possibly be important.

@steadfastsavage super smart to get n2guard, its the real deal man

cabergoline dostinex, you can add it but why? im checking your plan likely test onlY?
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/2nd-cycle-log.100309/post-1574732

we can find easy dostinex from sponsors for you but lets discuss the plan a bit

 

[steadfastsavage]

@steadfastsavage super smart to get n2guard, its the real deal man

cabergoline dostinex, you can add it but why? im checking your plan likely test onlY?
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/2nd-cycle-log.100309/post-1574732

we can find easy dostinex from sponsors for you but lets discuss the plan a bit

Long stack from para pharma. Figured it has Tren in it so it’s worth discussing the why behind caber and if it’s needed.

Also, is 25mg a week of the aromasin a good place to keep my aromasin?

 

[Eddie Haskell]

Long stack from para pharma. Figured it has Tren in it so it’s worth discussing the why behind caber and if it’s needed.

Also, is 25mg a week of the aromasin a good place to keep my aromasin?

oh I just checked back right you added the tren/mas/t mix from para pharma

you might not need cabergoline with low dose, you going to do 1ml/week?

and 25mgs of aromasin split? thats enough

 

[steadfastsavage]

oh I just checked back right you added the tren/mas/t mix from para pharma

you might not need cabergoline with low dose, you going to do 1ml/week?

and 25mgs of aromasin split? thats enough

I’m going to start with 1ml for 4 weeks, 2ml for the next 4 weeks, and if it’s still going well, I’ll do 3ml for the last 4 weeks. Total of 12 weeks for the cycle.

Still not sure if I should keep my 200mg weekly trt dose or drop that while on cycle.

 

[stevesmi]

i've used caber but if you want my honest educated opinion its not mandatory in 98% of situations

 

[steadfastsavage]

i've used caber but if you want my honest educated opinion its not mandatory in 98% of situations

Thank you @stevesmi! This is exactly what I was hoping.

 

[Quadsweep]

ugfreak does carry caber
but its currently out of stock on the website

 

[BodyMonster34]

bro you will get good results without caber
it not gonna make a difference in your results

 

[JasonPriest]

lots of guys use caber
and lots don't, you can always pick some up at domestic supply

 

[Wootoom]

caber is overrated
it was a big thing 20 years ago but fell off

 

[Vadim Fedorov]

you only need caber if prolactin gets super high
here in most situations it's not going to be needed

 

[2Thick]

never use it to be honest
and I never had any issues on any cycle like that

 

[e2]

you will be fine with or without it
important thing is you keep estrogen on their control

 

[Ulter]

caber is a good one to have on hand
worst case pick it up from napsgear or domestic supply

 

[chesty]

I think you'll be fine I wouldn't worry too much
prolactin isn't a big deal unless you are on steroids a long time and abusing them

 

[ROIDDERS]

if you notice brown lactation then you know prolactin is too high
other than that you will be okay

 

[ceo]

bros caber not needed
its good, but not 100% needed

 

[Mobster]

Never used it

 

[steadfastsavage]

Thanks for all the info on the caber.

Here is lunch and dinner logs from yesterday with photos of the food. The dinner was homemade beef stew so I did my best to track but it was probably a bit heavier on the macros as the meat was from our own cow we had butchered so a bit heavier on the fat.

 

[Masonic Bodybuilder]

N2Guard is awesome man. Caber really isn't necessary unless you have a history of abusing nandrolones or lactating nipples, lol. It is nice for sexual side effects though. Lots of porn stars use it.

 

[steadfastsavage]

N2Guard is awesome man. Caber really isn't necessary unless you have a history of abusing nandrolones or lactating nipples, lol. It is nice for sexual side effects though. Lots of porn stars use it.

I’m married for 17 years with 6 kids. My porn star (and lactating) years are over.

 

[Masonic Bodybuilder]

I’m married for 17 years with 6 kids. My porn star (and lactating) years are over.

Hahahaha, I wouldn't worry about caber then brother.

 

[Npcclassicphysique champ]

I’m married for 17 years with 6 kids. My porn star (and lactating) years are over.

@steadfastsavage 6kids you're a beast bro

 

[Npcclassicphysique champ]

Thanks for all the info on the caber.

Here is lunch and dinner logs from yesterday with photos of the food. The dinner was homemade beef stew so I did my best to track but it was probably a bit heavier on the macros as the meat was from our own cow we had butchered so a bit heavier on the fat.

you have your own cow bro? @steadfastsavage WOW!
can we see a pic? never seen that in any logs on EVO

EVO family support for you

 

[steadfastsavage]

you have your own cow bro? @steadfastsavage WOW!
can we see a pic? never seen that in any logs on EVO

EVO family support for you

Well… we did. It’s hard to eat a cow that’s still alive. You want pictures of all the beef in my deep freezer?

 

[steadfastsavage]

you have your own cow bro? @steadfastsavage WOW!
can we see a pic? never seen that in any logs on EVO

EVO family support for you

I also have 4 goats (to eat grass for me), a pig (just for farm decoration), and a bunch of chickens (for the fresh eggs).

 

[Npcclassicphysique champ]

Well… we did. It’s hard to eat a cow that’s still alive. You want pictures of all the beef in my deep freezer?

I also have 4 goats (to eat grass for me), a pig (just for farm decoration), and a bunch of chickens (for the fresh eggs).

@steadfastsavage it will be #1 on EVO some live cows and goats bro lol no joke awesome to see a real man with a farm

 

[steadfastsavage]

Fasting this morning so no meals yet. This workout was much harder without food.

Upper
Mon, Jul 29, 2024

Dip (Weighted)
Set 1 : 25 lb x 10
Set 2 : 25 lb x 10

Dumbbell Row
Set 1 : 60 lb x 10
Set 2 : 60 lb x 10

Overhead Press (Barbell)
Set 1 : 95 lb x 10
Set 2 : 95 lb x 10
Set 3 : 95 lb x 10

Bicep Curl (EZ Bar)
Set 1 : 70 lb x 10
Set 2 : 70 lb x 10
Set 3 : 70 lb x 10

Overhead Tricep Extension (Cable)
Set 1 : 50 lb x 10
Set 2 : 60 lb x 10
Set 3 : 60 lb x 10

 

[ballin2504]

You shouldn’t need the caber but it’s good to have on hand

 

[steadfastsavage]

Since I can’t stop thinking about food…

I forgot to post my food logs and pictures from yesterday. Here you go.

 

[25homes]

Have any of you used the “Long Stack” from Para Pharma? Looks like a 1/1/1 blend of test e, Tren e, and mast. I’m guessing it’s not recommended to do blends like that since individual doses can’t be adjusted?

Gotta know how your body will react

 

[steadfastsavage]

Gotta know how your body will react

I’m manifesting 50lbs of added muscle and dropping down to 5% body fat in 12 weeks. Sounds good? Highly unrealistic but a man can dream right? Haha.

 

[Npcclassicphysique champ]

Fasting this morning so no meals yet. This workout was much harder without food.

Upper
Mon, Jul 29, 2024

Dip (Weighted)
Set 1 : 25 lb x 10
Set 2 : 25 lb x 10

Dumbbell Row
Set 1 : 60 lb x 10
Set 2 : 60 lb x 10

Overhead Press (Barbell)
Set 1 : 95 lb x 10
Set 2 : 95 lb x 10
Set 3 : 95 lb x 10

Bicep Curl (EZ Bar)
Set 1 : 70 lb x 10
Set 2 : 70 lb x 10
Set 3 : 70 lb x 10

Overhead Tricep Extension (Cable)
Set 1 : 50 lb x 10
Set 2 : 60 lb x 10
Set 3 : 60 lb x 10

@steadfastsavage volume is the real deal bro truth there dips with 25? how about 30-40

Since I can’t stop thinking about food…

I forgot to post my food logs and pictures from yesterday. Here you go.

i always have this, i think about food 24/7 even with 6 meal prep haha bro
looking amazing, you got clear meals

I’m manifesting 50lbs of added muscle and dropping down to 5% body fat in 12 weeks. Sounds good? Highly unrealistic but a man can dream right? Haha.

for sure you can do it why not? more mass and cut 100% possible with you bro