Bloods after 5 weeks on 140mg test C for first time.

[Chrisos]

Hey all. Great forum. I’m new to test / peds.
Aged 53. Recently lost 14 kilo over 5 months with Reta, eating clean and lots of exercise. 175cm went from 102kg to 88kg so I’m still bit overweight. Goal to reduce fat % far more / bulk up a bit / get fitter.

E2 came in wee bit high (289 pmol/L) but I’m impressed where test ended up.
Full bloods before and after 5 weeks of test further below.

Started at 100mg but went up to 140mg in about a week. Daily subq 20mg a day. UGL Oz test c 200mg/ml. Open to higher test cycle with pimo or similar to manage e2. Really just done TRT+ so far to find feet.

No real e2 sides except bit of water retention and maybe bit ratty at times / bit bitchy now and again
No spicy nips at all.

Overall feel way better and much easier doing resistance training.

Wondering if I monitor and see if body adjusts it over time or I lower dose a bit or I chuck in some primo.

Have AI but want to avoid if possible.

Full bloods before & after


Before 05/12/2024

Oestradiol 114 pmol/L (< 150)
Testosterone 12.0 nmol/L 6.0 - 28.0
SHBG re-std. 26 nmol/L 15 - 50

Free Testosterone 274 pmol/L
200 - 600


After 07/01/2025

Oestradiol 289 nmol/L (< 150)
Testosterone 32.2* nmol/L 6.0 - 28.0
SHBG re-std. 22 nmol/L 15 - 50

Free Testosterone 924** pmol/L
200 - 600

 

[Eddie Haskell]

Hey all. Great forum. I’m new to test / peds.
Aged 53. Recently lost 14 kilo over 5 months with Reta, eating clean and lots of exercise. 175cm went from 102kg to 88kg so I’m still bit overweight. Goal to reduce fat % far more / bulk up a bit / get fitter.

E2 came in wee bit high (289 pmol/L) but I’m impressed where test ended up.
Full bloods before and after 5 weeks of test further below.

Started at 100mg but went up to 140mg in about a week. Daily subq 20mg a day. UGL Oz test c 200mg/ml. Open to higher test cycle with pimo or similar to manage e2. Really just done TRT+ so far to find feet.

No real e2 sides except bit of water retention and maybe bit ratty at times / bit bitchy now and again
No spicy nips at all.

Overall feel way better and much easier doing resistance training.

Wondering if I monitor and see if body adjusts it over time or I lower dose a bit or I chuck in some primo.

Have AI but want to avoid if possible.

Full bloods before & after


Before 05/12/2024

Oestradiol 114 pmol/L (< 150)
Testosterone 12.0 nmol/L 6.0 - 28.0
SHBG re-std. 26 nmol/L 15 - 50

Free Testosterone 274 pmol/L
200 - 600


After 07/01/2025

Oestradiol 289 nmol/L (< 150)
Testosterone 32.2* nmol/L 6.0 - 28.0
SHBG re-std. 22 nmol/L 15 - 50

Free Testosterone 924** pmol/L
200 - 600

@Chrisos welcome to the EVO family I did see you post recently.

On the blood work, a few questions, can you please share actual blood work picture with your info blurred?
Also who is your supplier?

 

[Chrisos]

UGL Oz, is definitely doing the trick.

I’ll post screen shots of bloods when home

 

[stevesmi]

Did you have a specific question or concern about bloods?

 

[LevButlerov]

Hey all. Great forum. I’m new to test / peds.
Aged 53. Recently lost 14 kilo over 5 months with Reta, eating clean and lots of exercise. 175cm went from 102kg to 88kg so I’m still bit overweight. Goal to reduce fat % far more / bulk up a bit / get fitter.

E2 came in wee bit high (289 pmol/L) but I’m impressed where test ended up.
Full bloods before and after 5 weeks of test further below.

Started at 100mg but went up to 140mg in about a week. Daily subq 20mg a day. UGL Oz test c 200mg/ml. Open to higher test cycle with pimo or similar to manage e2. Really just done TRT+ so far to find feet.

No real e2 sides except bit of water retention and maybe bit ratty at times / bit bitchy now and again
No spicy nips at all.

Overall feel way better and much easier doing resistance training.

Wondering if I monitor and see if body adjusts it over time or I lower dose a bit or I chuck in some primo.

Have AI but want to avoid if possible.

Full bloods before & after


Before 05/12/2024

Oestradiol 114 pmol/L (< 150)
Testosterone 12.0 nmol/L 6.0 - 28.0
SHBG re-std. 26 nmol/L 15 - 50

Free Testosterone 274 pmol/L
200 - 600


After 07/01/2025

Oestradiol 289 nmol/L (< 150)
Testosterone 32.2* nmol/L 6.0 - 28.0
SHBG re-std. 22 nmol/L 15 - 50

Free Testosterone 924** pmol/L
200 - 600

@Chrisos there is something off about these bloods please post the actual paper for us.

@AE1079 @Pigsy these seem off.

 

[Pigsy]

Was the first blood test taken as natty. The second test seems like good number for 140mg test a week. Though he's a high e2 convertor. Maybe adding 100mg primo to the cycle might be beneficial here

 

[ODINLABS]

Was the first blood test taken as natty. The second test seems like good number for 140mg test a week. Though he's a high e2 convertor. Maybe adding 100mg primo to the cycle might be beneficial here

Definitely solid advice low dose primo would recommend.
Estrogen is a tad bit high.
We need to see the actual bloods though as anyone can write any numbers especially the free testosterone in the second "test" at 150mgs freR test would not be so high at 150mg even day of or day after shot.

 

[Pigsy]

I agree need see full bloods

 

[Chrisos]

Was the first blood test taken as natty. The second test seems like good number for 140mg test a week. Though he's a high e2 convertor. Maybe adding 100mg primo to the cycle might be beneficial here

Yeah first bloods natural never done test before.

Here are before bloods - will post after seperate

 

[Chrisos]

 

[Chrisos]

 

[Chrisos]

Sorry this is hard on phone

And here is after bloods from 2 days ago

Only did test and e2 for after

 

[LevButlerov]

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Sorry this is hard on phone

And here is after bloods from 2 days ago

Only did test and e2 for after

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Please a bit of an update which date is natural?

 

[Chrisos]

Please a bit of an update which date is natural

27/12/2024 is the natural results (full bloods)

Did bloods after test 140mg a week on 7th Jan 2025 just test and e2

Have learnt I’m prob best posting from computer when home ongoing lol

 

[Chrisos]

Yeah guess dilemma I have at moment is do I keep going without AI or maybe add some primo and see how it is in 4 weeks or just lower test dose but that sort of defeats purpose.

No spicy nips - just water retention and tiny bit mood swingy at times but have lot on at work. Overall loving it.

(My e2 is almost double upper limit in SI units)

 

[Chrisos]

Thought about doing proper log soon. Will so post more tidy with all info photos etc

And from PC - My fingers way too far for this phone

More just looking for advice so far and finding feet.

 

[Mobster]

99% of bloods are easy to read. There's your numbers and then the range they'd expect to see.

Now how you are - fat, old, unfit or thin, young, fit as fiddle - will affect those numbers. Ditto using PEDs. Some numbers are off when 'on' PEDs but go back to normal after. Occasionally, E2 needs sorting.

 

[LevButlerov]

27/12/2024 is the natural results (full bloods)

Did bloods after test 140mg a week on 7th Jan 2025 just test and e2

Have learnt I’m prob best posting from computer when home ongoing lol

Yeah guess dilemma I have at moment is do I keep going without AI or maybe add some primo and see how it is in 4 weeks or just lower test dose but that sort of defeats purpose.

No spicy nips - just water retention and tiny bit mood swingy at times but have lot on at work. Overall loving it.

(My e2 is almost double upper limit in SI units)

Thought about doing proper log soon. Will so post more tidy with all info photos etc

And from PC - My fingers way too far for this phone

More just looking for advice so far and finding feet.

Sorry this is hard on phone

And here is after bloods from 2 days ago

Only did test and e2 for after

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With the estrogen level you have, you do need to up the Ai for sure, it would balance things out. @Chrisos

but this isn't really a true answer for you, thats just generic, we are really guessing here, you know what I mean?
we dont know much about you, so it's all over the top guess work.
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[JasonPriest]

A proper log, would definitely be good and less confusing. It looks to me that your blood work is pretty standard for what you're using.

 

[BodyMonster34]

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that is IF you a real man.