First Cycle Test + Enclomiphene?

[BodakM]

Im about to run a cycle of test 200mg for 4 weeks and 300mg for 12 weeks. Im in combat sports not bodybuilding so Im not really interested in becoming gigantic but Im not sure about that dosing, advice appreciated. I have arimidex on hand if necessary for the whole cycle. I happen to have a lot of enclo on hand and I have enough to take 12.5mg every day for the entire cycle.

Would there be any benefit to doing this though? Maybe to help prevent shutdown? maybe i should hold on to the enclo exclusively for PCT?

 

[LevButlerov]

Im about to run a cycle of test 200mg for 4 weeks and 300mg for 12 weeks. Im in combat sports not bodybuilding so Im not really interested in becoming gigantic but Im not sure about that dosing, advice appreciated. I have arimidex on hand if necessary for the whole cycle. I happen to have a lot of enclo on hand and I have enough to take 12.5mg every day for the entire cycle.

Would there be any benefit to doing this though? Maybe to help prevent shutdown? maybe i should hold on to the enclo exclusively for PCT?

Enclomiphene during the cycle is useless and your cycle needs organ support like n2guard if you want to have a normal cycle.

Also, your dosing is alright 300mgs but start out at 300mgs not 200mgs, pyramid use is useless broscience.

Your pct should be hcgenerate + Enclomiphene + nolvadex for 6 weeks.

Lastly, to really get results on this cycle we need to help guide you properly, to do that we need to see you share your LOG journal diet training cardio etc with us.
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[stevesmi]

no such thing as preventing shutdown on anabolic steroids. if such a thing existed nobody would need trt for life. if you don't want to get shut down then don't use them, go natural or use sarms which are mildly suppressive

 

[JasonPriest]

i would stick with 12 weeks and use EQ with some test. maybe tbol too. that is all you need.

 

[BodyMonster34]

bros this a godo stack but missing tren

 

[ceo]

bros i would stick to clomid in pct and on cycle use organ support and get a LOG journal up

 

[ROIDDERS]

enclo for pct only dude and you wont prevent shutdown
LOG IT POST A LOG

 

[Quadsweep]

it is okay to get shutdown, that is what pct is for

 

[MONSTRO]

300mgs whole cycle bro
LOG LOG LOG LOG NOW

 

[Vadim Fedorov]

what you use and how you do it is just guesses without seeing your log

 

[2Thick]

300mgs test whole cycle not 200mgs start
and log it on evo asap now

 

[e2]

id like to see your cycle log before i comment otherwise im guessing

 

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[Ulter]

start with your diet training cardio now and log that and we can work the cycle in

 

[chesty]

I think 300mgs is a sport trt dose so do it with an Ai whole cycle and organ liver support like n2guard and +LOG ASAP+

 

[Mobster]

You wont prevent shut down

 

[25homes]

Im about to run a cycle of test 200mg for 4 weeks and 300mg for 12 weeks. Im in combat sports not bodybuilding so Im not really interested in becoming gigantic but Im not sure about that dosing, advice appreciated. I have arimidex on hand if necessary for the whole cycle. I happen to have a lot of enclo on hand and I have enough to take 12.5mg every day for the entire cycle.

Would there be any benefit to doing this though? Maybe to help prevent shutdown? maybe i should hold on to the enclo exclusively for PCT?

no just wait til the end

 

[RoySimpson]

Keep the log coming along!!

 

[beefyfan]

From my research, enclomiphene is being used by some TRT clinics in place of hcg. Cookie cutter protocol of 25mg's twice per week. I believe it is effective for true TRT. Anything over 200mg's per week and might not be worth the $. That being said, I have been on enclomiphene as HRT for the past 5 months. I have gone from 150ng's to 487ng's and my LH & FSH in pretty much smack dab in the middle of normal. I love it. To clarify, I am not using testosterone, just enclomiphene at 12.5mg's daily. Anyone else having any good luck or not using enclomiphene? If the veracity of my post is in question, I can dig of 2022 and 2023 labs and post them. Hope everyone is doing well.

 

[dylangemelli]

From my research, enclomiphene is being used by some TRT clinics in place of hcg. Cookie cutter protocol of 25mg's twice per week. I believe it is effective for true TRT. Anything over 200mg's per week and might not be worth the $. That being said, I have been on enclomiphene as HRT for the past 5 months. I have gone from 150ng's to 487ng's and my LH & FSH in pretty much smack dab in the middle of normal. I love it. To clarify, I am not using testosterone, just enclomiphene at 12.5mg's daily. Anyone else having any good luck or not using enclomiphene? If the veracity of my post is in question, I can dig of 2022 and 2023 labs and post them. Hope everyone is doing well.

Here is what the fda says about it

https://www.fda.gov/media/159043/download


Heres is a study conducted

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31216250/

Theres no doubt it works. My concern is a lack of long term use studies especially pertaining to side effects… that is where you get to the unknown so that is really up to you as to whether you think the risk is worth the reward…