Approved Log First cycle Journal- Training Diet and Lifestyle

exnaturalbodybuilder · Oct 3, 2025

Hey!
Happy to be here. Planning on to do my first cycle. I was planning on starting for a relatively long time after competing in bodybuilding naturally. Found love for the sport of bodybuilding. I did 2 shows, in one I won a national title in teens, came 2nd in Juniors (placed 2nd to my good friend, we had the same coach, in the second one same thing won the teens category and placed 2nd in juniors. (Can confidently say that our team kinda dominated in both haha. Wanted to do a world championships as well, but life said otherwise so I didn't (there was only one person in my category anyways, so it would be boring).
ANYWAYS back to the cycle. I have decided to use PEDs as I wanna up the game a little. Giving myself time to reassess, until January (new year new me I guess (so I don't start right away and after two weeks decide I want to stop), which also gave me additional time to gain some knowledge. Currently I have "constructed" this cycle plan and Id like your opinion on it.
1. Blood work 2-4 weeks pre cycle: Total, Free testosterone, Estradiol, LH, FSH, SHBG, Prolactin, HDL, LDL, Triglycerides, Blood count, ALT, AST, Creatinine, eGFR, PSA
2. Dosing based on testosterone levels. After the show I did a blood test showing 4.29nmol/l (123ng/dl) total t. Which isn't very good. Did maximum to improve it and I feel like it is better as a no longer experience symptoms such as low libido, moodiness etc. (still holding quite a bit of water tho

) (Libido is not great still. But at least I don't have a erectile disfunction anymore haha) anyways the mote t I will have the more test I wanna start with (test e/ test c, probably cypionate). It it still will be in the lower range I will do 200-250mg a week of test. Test only cycle.
3. Keep the 250 for example for 4-6 weeks, monitoring sides, and after 4-6 weeks get another blood work: Total, Free testosterone, Estradiol (to really check how much I am converting), Prolactin, HDL, LDL, Triglycerides, Complete blood count, ALT, AST, Creatinine, eGFR. = If there will not be any sides and bloodworm checks out, meaning I am healthy, e2 is in range, prolactin too - I will increase the weekly dose of testosterone to 300mg (50 at a time), then repeat this process all over again, based on the converting either increase again after another 6 weeks or keep it.
4. Planning on to doing this for 20 weeks, then reduce the weekly dose to a TRT dose as I do not want to PCT, I simply don't see the point if I will be doing another cycle again soon. (keep in mind tho that I am doing this for bodybuilding purposes).
5. After 8 weeks of cruise Blood work once again, same as before the cycle to check weather I am healthy and good to go. Wait a bit more and do the second cycle.

As for supplements : Omega-3 at 4g a day, NAC, B6, magnesium, electrolytes, melatonin, calcium glutamate (if e2 will be higher try to do that before an AI), creatine, glutamine, zinc, vitamin C, D.

I will be trying to manage the sides with dosing only, not with an AI, however I will have Anastazole (if sides appear, e2 high confirmed by blood tests) and Raloxifene (if gyno develops).

So yea, pretty simple cycle, managing the dosing to prevent sides, trying not to use more medications that is absolutely necessary (one would say Lowes effective dose).

Hope everything is clear. Looking forward to the feedback!

Eddie Haskell · Oct 3, 2025

exnaturalbodybuilder said:
Hey!
Happy to be here. Planning on to do my first cycle. I was planning on starting for a relatively long time after competing in bodybuilding naturally. Found love for the sport of bodybuilding. I did 2 shows, in one I won a national title in teens, came 2nd in Juniors (placed 2nd to my good friend, we had the same coach, in the second one same thing won the teens category and placed 2nd in juniors. (Can confidently say that our team kinda dominated in both haha. Wanted to do a world championships as well, but life said otherwise so I didn't (there was only one person in my category anyways, so it would be boring).
ANYWAYS back to the cycle. I have decided to use PEDs as I wanna up the game a little. Giving myself time to reassess, until January (new year new me I guess (so I don't start right away and after two weeks decide I want to stop), which also gave me additional time to gain some knowledge. Currently I have "constructed" this cycle plan and Id like your opinion on it.
1. Blood work 2-4 weeks pre cycle: Total, Free testosterone, Estradiol, LH, FSH, SHBG, Prolactin, HDL, LDL, Triglycerides, Blood count, ALT, AST, Creatinine, eGFR, PSA
2. Dosing based on testosterone levels. After the show I did a blood test showing 4.29nmol/l (123ng/dl) total t. Which isn't very good. Did maximum to improve it and I feel like it is better as a no longer experience symptoms such as low libido, moodiness etc. (still holding quite a bit of water tho ) (Libido is not great still. But at least I don't have a erectile disfunction anymore haha) anyways the mote t I will have the more test I wanna start with (test e/ test c, probably cypionate). It it still will be in the lower range I will do 200-250mg a week of test. Test only cycle.
3. Keep the 250 for example for 4-6 weeks, monitoring sides, and after 4-6 weeks get another blood work: Total, Free testosterone, Estradiol (to really check how much I am converting), Prolactin, HDL, LDL, Triglycerides, Complete blood count, ALT, AST, Creatinine, eGFR. = If there will not be any sides and bloodworm checks out, meaning I am healthy, e2 is in range, prolactin too - I will increase the weekly dose of testosterone to 300mg (50 at a time), then repeat this process all over again, based on the converting either increase again after another 6 weeks or keep it.
4. Planning on to doing this for 20 weeks, then reduce the weekly dose to a TRT dose as I do not want to PCT, I simply don't see the point if I will be doing another cycle again soon. (keep in mind tho that I am doing this for bodybuilding purposes).
5. After 8 weeks of cruise Blood work once again, same as before the cycle to check weather I am healthy and good to go. Wait a bit more and do the second cycle.

As for supplements : Omega-3 at 4g a day, NAC, B6, magnesium, electrolytes, melatonin, calcium glutamate (if e2 will be higher try to do that before an AI), creatine, glutamine, zinc, vitamin C, D.

I will be trying to manage the sides with dosing only, not with an AI, however I will have Anastazole (if sides appear, e2 high confirmed by blood tests) and Raloxifene (if gyno develops).

So yea, pretty simple cycle, managing the dosing to prevent sides, trying not to use more medications that is absolutely necessary (one would say Lowes effective dose).

Hope everything is clear. Looking forward to the feedback!

@exnaturalbodybuilder Welcome to our EVO family

Please open the log by sharing your pictures with your face blurred. This will help us understand you and your base.

exnaturalbodybuilder · Oct 3, 2025

Thanks for the reply!

Here are the pics. 1st is from comp. Other one week ago. Currently at weekly average of 76kg. 178cm

vanlife_gymbum · Oct 3, 2025

exnaturalbodybuilder said:
As for supplements : Omega-3 at 4g a day, NAC, B6, magnesium, electrolytes, melatonin, calcium glutamate (if e2 will be higher try to do that before an AI), creatine, glutamine, zinc, vitamin C, D.

Welcome bro! That's very similar to the supplements I take, been meaning to get some NAC to add in tho. Good luck with your log bro

LevButlerov · Oct 3, 2025

exnaturalbodybuilder said:
Hey!
Happy to be here. Planning on to do my first cycle. I was planning on starting for a relatively long time after competing in bodybuilding naturally. Found love for the sport of bodybuilding. I did 2 shows, in one I won a national title in teens, came 2nd in Juniors (placed 2nd to my good friend, we had the same coach, in the second one same thing won the teens category and placed 2nd in juniors. (Can confidently say that our team kinda dominated in both haha. Wanted to do a world championships as well, but life said otherwise so I didn't (there was only one person in my category anyways, so it would be boring).
ANYWAYS back to the cycle. I have decided to use PEDs as I wanna up the game a little. Giving myself time to reassess, until January (new year new me I guess (so I don't start right away and after two weeks decide I want to stop), which also gave me additional time to gain some knowledge. Currently I have "constructed" this cycle plan and Id like your opinion on it.
1. Blood work 2-4 weeks pre cycle: Total, Free testosterone, Estradiol, LH, FSH, SHBG, Prolactin, HDL, LDL, Triglycerides, Blood count, ALT, AST, Creatinine, eGFR, PSA
2. Dosing based on testosterone levels. After the show I did a blood test showing 4.29nmol/l (123ng/dl) total t. Which isn't very good. Did maximum to improve it and I feel like it is better as a no longer experience symptoms such as low libido, moodiness etc. (still holding quite a bit of water tho ) (Libido is not great still. But at least I don't have a erectile disfunction anymore haha) anyways the mote t I will have the more test I wanna start with (test e/ test c, probably cypionate). It it still will be in the lower range I will do 200-250mg a week of test. Test only cycle.
3. Keep the 250 for example for 4-6 weeks, monitoring sides, and after 4-6 weeks get another blood work: Total, Free testosterone, Estradiol (to really check how much I am converting), Prolactin, HDL, LDL, Triglycerides, Complete blood count, ALT, AST, Creatinine, eGFR. = If there will not be any sides and bloodworm checks out, meaning I am healthy, e2 is in range, prolactin too - I will increase the weekly dose of testosterone to 300mg (50 at a time), then repeat this process all over again, based on the converting either increase again after another 6 weeks or keep it.
4. Planning on to doing this for 20 weeks, then reduce the weekly dose to a TRT dose as I do not want to PCT, I simply don't see the point if I will be doing another cycle again soon. (keep in mind tho that I am doing this for bodybuilding purposes).
5. After 8 weeks of cruise Blood work once again, same as before the cycle to check weather I am healthy and good to go. Wait a bit more and do the second cycle.

As for supplements : Omega-3 at 4g a day, NAC, B6, magnesium, electrolytes, melatonin, calcium glutamate (if e2 will be higher try to do that before an AI), creatine, glutamine, zinc, vitamin C, D.

I will be trying to manage the sides with dosing only, not with an AI, however I will have Anastazole (if sides appear, e2 high confirmed by blood tests) and Raloxifene (if gyno develops).

So yea, pretty simple cycle, managing the dosing to prevent sides, trying not to use more medications that is absolutely necessary (one would say Lowes effective dose).

Hope everything is clear. Looking forward to the feedback!

exnaturalbodybuilder said:
Thanks for the reply!

Here are the pics. 1st is from comp. Other one week ago. Currently at weekly average of 76kg. 178cm

welcome to the EVO family! @exnaturalbodybuilder solid intro and smart that you’re setting everything up with bloods first and building the cycle around test only. Keeping it simple with a measured increase and checking labs along the way is the right approach, and planning to cruise instead of pct if you’re in this long term makes sense.

Pics look awesome, you’re big, lean, and already carrying a ton of quality size naturally. For someone still natty you’ve got crazy shape and condition, the foundation is there so the cycle will just enhance what you’ve already built.

supplements
what digestive supps you use?
digestive enzymes?
multis?
probiotics?
psyllium husk?

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exnaturalbodybuilder · Oct 3, 2025

Hey, for digestion first of all, limiting artifitial sweeteners, managing protein (so it isnt too high, although I tend to do more protein then most people around 2.8g/kg of bw) and then i do digestive emzymes pre each large meal (3 a day), fiber and probiotics all just through diet

Eddie Haskell · Oct 3, 2025

exnaturalbodybuilder said:
Hey, for digestion first of all, limiting artifitial sweeteners, managing protein (so it isnt too high, although I tend to do more protein then most people around 2.8g/kg of bw) and then i do digestive emzymes pre each large meal (3 a day), fiber and probiotics all just through diet

Are you saying you take probiotics daily? Or fermented foods?

exnaturalbodybuilder · Oct 3, 2025

Fermented foods only. I dont take a probiotic supplement.

(Lowkey i dont see the point as the cultures in your gut are extremely individual and the supplements provide a pretty limited variety of probiotic bacteria that said I take them occasionally as some digestive problems arise or when I’m on antibiotics (which is only rn after since I was a child)

LevButlerov · Oct 3, 2025

exnaturalbodybuilder said:
Fermented foods only. I dont take a probiotic supplement.

(Lowkey i dont see the point as the cultures in your gut are extremely individual and the supplements provide a pretty limited variety of probiotic bacteria that said I take them occasionally as some digestive problems arise or when I’m on antibiotics (which is only rn after since I was a child)

Fermented foods are solid, but dose and coverage are inconsistent. A good probiotic adds consistent CFUs and missing bifido strains that actually reach the colon, which helps regularity, bloat control, nutrient uptake, and clearance that influences e2.
Training stress, high protein, sweeteners, NSAIDs or PPIs can thin diversity even with fermented food, so a short 8–12 week multi strain course can fill the gap while you keep your food base.

That's why I suggest adding probiotics @exnaturalbodybuilder

stevesmi · Oct 3, 2025

exnaturalbodybuilder said:
Hey!
Happy to be here. Planning on to do my first cycle. I was planning on starting for a relatively long time after competing in bodybuilding naturally. Found love for the sport of bodybuilding. I did 2 shows, in one I won a national title in teens, came 2nd in Juniors (placed 2nd to my good friend, we had the same coach, in the second one same thing won the teens category and placed 2nd in juniors. (Can confidently say that our team kinda dominated in both haha. Wanted to do a world championships as well, but life said otherwise so I didn't (there was only one person in my category anyways, so it would be boring).
ANYWAYS back to the cycle. I have decided to use PEDs as I wanna up the game a little. Giving myself time to reassess, until January (new year new me I guess (so I don't start right away and after two weeks decide I want to stop), which also gave me additional time to gain some knowledge. Currently I have "constructed" this cycle plan and Id like your opinion on it.
1. Blood work 2-4 weeks pre cycle: Total, Free testosterone, Estradiol, LH, FSH, SHBG, Prolactin, HDL, LDL, Triglycerides, Blood count, ALT, AST, Creatinine, eGFR, PSA
2. Dosing based on testosterone levels. After the show I did a blood test showing 4.29nmol/l (123ng/dl) total t. Which isn't very good. Did maximum to improve it and I feel like it is better as a no longer experience symptoms such as low libido, moodiness etc. (still holding quite a bit of water tho ) (Libido is not great still. But at least I don't have a erectile disfunction anymore haha) anyways the mote t I will have the more test I wanna start with (test e/ test c, probably cypionate). It it still will be in the lower range I will do 200-250mg a week of test. Test only cycle.
3. Keep the 250 for example for 4-6 weeks, monitoring sides, and after 4-6 weeks get another blood work: Total, Free testosterone, Estradiol (to really check how much I am converting), Prolactin, HDL, LDL, Triglycerides, Complete blood count, ALT, AST, Creatinine, eGFR. = If there will not be any sides and bloodworm checks out, meaning I am healthy, e2 is in range, prolactin too - I will increase the weekly dose of testosterone to 300mg (50 at a time), then repeat this process all over again, based on the converting either increase again after another 6 weeks or keep it.
4. Planning on to doing this for 20 weeks, then reduce the weekly dose to a TRT dose as I do not want to PCT, I simply don't see the point if I will be doing another cycle again soon. (keep in mind tho that I am doing this for bodybuilding purposes).
5. After 8 weeks of cruise Blood work once again, same as before the cycle to check weather I am healthy and good to go. Wait a bit more and do the second cycle.

As for supplements : Omega-3 at 4g a day, NAC, B6, magnesium, electrolytes, melatonin, calcium glutamate (if e2 will be higher try to do that before an AI), creatine, glutamine, zinc, vitamin C, D.

I will be trying to manage the sides with dosing only, not with an AI, however I will have Anastazole (if sides appear, e2 high confirmed by blood tests) and Raloxifene (if gyno develops).

So yea, pretty simple cycle, managing the dosing to prevent sides, trying not to use more medications that is absolutely necessary (one would say Lowes effective dose).

Hope everything is clear. Looking forward to the feedback!

@exnaturalbodybuilder At the end of the day, it's something that you're deciding to do. It's not the most healthy thing to stay on there so long and not take breaks. But again, bodybuilding isn't necessarily something that is healthy in many cases.

exnaturalbodybuilder · Oct 4, 2025

LevButlerov said:
Fermented foods are solid, but dose and coverage are inconsistent. A good probiotic adds consistent CFUs and missing bifido strains that actually reach the colon, which helps regularity, bloat control, nutrient uptake, and clearance that influences e2.
Training stress, high protein, sweeteners, NSAIDs or PPIs can thin diversity even with fermented food, so a short 8–12 week multi strain course can fill the gap while you keep your food base. That's why I suggest adding probiotics @exnaturalbodybuilder

Okay yea, I understand. Will add them.

exnaturalbodybuilder · Oct 4, 2025

stevesmi said:
@exnaturalbodybuilder At the end of the day, it's something that you're deciding to do. It's not the most healthy thing to stay on there so long and not take breaks. But again, bodybuilding isn't necessarily something that is healthy in many cases.

Im fully aware of that. But as u said bodybuilding isnt healthy (even natural bb isnt healthy). It is a trade off and I will do my best to minimise the impact on my health.

Mobster · Oct 4, 2025

Love the team story

Mobster · Oct 4, 2025

exnaturalbodybuilder said:
Im fully aware of that. But as u said bodybuilding isnt healthy (even natural bb isnt healthy). It is a trade off and I will do my best to minimise the impact on my health.

Coming off etc would be the best way to do that

stevesmi · Oct 4, 2025

exnaturalbodybuilder said:
Im fully aware of that. But as u said bodybuilding isnt healthy (even natural bb isnt healthy). It is a trade off and I will do my best to minimise the impact on my health.

Yes great way to put it. That’s how I approach the podcast

exnaturalbodybuilder · Oct 4, 2025

Mobster said:
Coming off etc would be the best way to do that

Yea, I know. But for bodybuilding purposes it’s the best variant I think. I don’t lose any muscle gained for a few weeks of clean blood work. While allowing my body to recover (to a certain extend) on the cruise.

ceo · Oct 4, 2025

exnaturalbodybuilder said:
Thanks for the reply!

Here are the pics. 1st is from comp. Other one week ago. Currently at weekly average of 76kg. 178cm

bros you honestly look way better then i expected from your intro. you lean as Fk. i would say your body fat 5-6% maybe @exnaturalbodybuilder

exnaturalbodybuilder · Oct 4, 2025

ceo said:
bros you honestly look way better then i expected from your intro. you lean as Fk. i would say your body fat 5-6% maybe @exnaturalbodybuilder

Yea, I didn’t gain much bf post show. Only around 2kg so I am relatively lean. However I hold quite a bit of water, which makes it look like I’m fatter then I am hahah

ceo · Oct 4, 2025

exnaturalbodybuilder said:
Yea, I didn’t gain much bf post show. Only around 2kg so I am relatively lean. However I hold quite a bit of water, which makes it look like I’m fatter then I am hahah

bros that par for the course

exnaturalbodybuilder · Oct 4, 2025

ceo said:
bros that par for the course

Yeaa

ROIDDERS · Oct 4, 2025

exnaturalbodybuilder said:
Hey!
Happy to be here. Planning on to do my first cycle. I was planning on starting for a relatively long time after competing in bodybuilding naturally. Found love for the sport of bodybuilding. I did 2 shows, in one I won a national title in teens, came 2nd in Juniors (placed 2nd to my good friend, we had the same coach, in the second one same thing won the teens category and placed 2nd in juniors. (Can confidently say that our team kinda dominated in both haha. Wanted to do a world championships as well, but life said otherwise so I didn't (there was only one person in my category anyways, so it would be boring).
ANYWAYS back to the cycle. I have decided to use PEDs as I wanna up the game a little. Giving myself time to reassess, until January (new year new me I guess (so I don't start right away and after two weeks decide I want to stop), which also gave me additional time to gain some knowledge. Currently I have "constructed" this cycle plan and Id like your opinion on it.
1. Blood work 2-4 weeks pre cycle: Total, Free testosterone, Estradiol, LH, FSH, SHBG, Prolactin, HDL, LDL, Triglycerides, Blood count, ALT, AST, Creatinine, eGFR, PSA
2. Dosing based on testosterone levels. After the show I did a blood test showing 4.29nmol/l (123ng/dl) total t. Which isn't very good. Did maximum to improve it and I feel like it is better as a no longer experience symptoms such as low libido, moodiness etc. (still holding quite a bit of water tho ) (Libido is not great still. But at least I don't have a erectile disfunction anymore haha) anyways the mote t I will have the more test I wanna start with (test e/ test c, probably cypionate). It it still will be in the lower range I will do 200-250mg a week of test. Test only cycle.
3. Keep the 250 for example for 4-6 weeks, monitoring sides, and after 4-6 weeks get another blood work: Total, Free testosterone, Estradiol (to really check how much I am converting), Prolactin, HDL, LDL, Triglycerides, Complete blood count, ALT, AST, Creatinine, eGFR. = If there will not be any sides and bloodworm checks out, meaning I am healthy, e2 is in range, prolactin too - I will increase the weekly dose of testosterone to 300mg (50 at a time), then repeat this process all over again, based on the converting either increase again after another 6 weeks or keep it.
4. Planning on to doing this for 20 weeks, then reduce the weekly dose to a TRT dose as I do not want to PCT, I simply don't see the point if I will be doing another cycle again soon. (keep in mind tho that I am doing this for bodybuilding purposes).
5. After 8 weeks of cruise Blood work once again, same as before the cycle to check weather I am healthy and good to go. Wait a bit more and do the second cycle.

As for supplements : Omega-3 at 4g a day, NAC, B6, magnesium, electrolytes, melatonin, calcium glutamate (if e2 will be higher try to do that before an AI), creatine, glutamine, zinc, vitamin C, D.

I will be trying to manage the sides with dosing only, not with an AI, however I will have Anastazole (if sides appear, e2 high confirmed by blood tests) and Raloxifene (if gyno develops).

So yea, pretty simple cycle, managing the dosing to prevent sides, trying not to use more medications that is absolutely necessary (one would say Lowes effective dose).

Hope everything is clear. Looking forward to the feedback!

great to see you do this log. i was just responding to your other post. make sure you get touchdown pictures and let us know which source you decided to use @exnaturalbodybuilder That would be awesome to see what you think.

2Thick · Oct 4, 2025

exnaturalbodybuilder said:
Hey!
Happy to be here. Planning on to do my first cycle. I was planning on starting for a relatively long time after competing in bodybuilding naturally. Found love for the sport of bodybuilding. I did 2 shows, in one I won a national title in teens, came 2nd in Juniors (placed 2nd to my good friend, we had the same coach, in the second one same thing won the teens category and placed 2nd in juniors. (Can confidently say that our team kinda dominated in both haha. Wanted to do a world championships as well, but life said otherwise so I didn't (there was only one person in my category anyways, so it would be boring).
ANYWAYS back to the cycle. I have decided to use PEDs as I wanna up the game a little. Giving myself time to reassess, until January (new year new me I guess (so I don't start right away and after two weeks decide I want to stop), which also gave me additional time to gain some knowledge. Currently I have "constructed" this cycle plan and Id like your opinion on it.
1. Blood work 2-4 weeks pre cycle: Total, Free testosterone, Estradiol, LH, FSH, SHBG, Prolactin, HDL, LDL, Triglycerides, Blood count, ALT, AST, Creatinine, eGFR, PSA
2. Dosing based on testosterone levels. After the show I did a blood test showing 4.29nmol/l (123ng/dl) total t. Which isn't very good. Did maximum to improve it and I feel like it is better as a no longer experience symptoms such as low libido, moodiness etc. (still holding quite a bit of water tho ) (Libido is not great still. But at least I don't have a erectile disfunction anymore haha) anyways the mote t I will have the more test I wanna start with (test e/ test c, probably cypionate). It it still will be in the lower range I will do 200-250mg a week of test. Test only cycle.
3. Keep the 250 for example for 4-6 weeks, monitoring sides, and after 4-6 weeks get another blood work: Total, Free testosterone, Estradiol (to really check how much I am converting), Prolactin, HDL, LDL, Triglycerides, Complete blood count, ALT, AST, Creatinine, eGFR. = If there will not be any sides and bloodworm checks out, meaning I am healthy, e2 is in range, prolactin too - I will increase the weekly dose of testosterone to 300mg (50 at a time), then repeat this process all over again, based on the converting either increase again after another 6 weeks or keep it.
4. Planning on to doing this for 20 weeks, then reduce the weekly dose to a TRT dose as I do not want to PCT, I simply don't see the point if I will be doing another cycle again soon. (keep in mind tho that I am doing this for bodybuilding purposes).
5. After 8 weeks of cruise Blood work once again, same as before the cycle to check weather I am healthy and good to go. Wait a bit more and do the second cycle.

As for supplements : Omega-3 at 4g a day, NAC, B6, magnesium, electrolytes, melatonin, calcium glutamate (if e2 will be higher try to do that before an AI), creatine, glutamine, zinc, vitamin C, D.

I will be trying to manage the sides with dosing only, not with an AI, however I will have Anastazole (if sides appear, e2 high confirmed by blood tests) and Raloxifene (if gyno develops).

So yea, pretty simple cycle, managing the dosing to prevent sides, trying not to use more medications that is absolutely necessary (one would say Lowes effective dose).

Hope everything is clear. Looking forward to the feedback!

@exnaturalbodybuilder you never want gyno to appear and get to that point. always keep your E under control. once you get gyno it means your E is way out of whack

Ulter · Oct 4, 2025

exnaturalbodybuilder said:
Hey!
Happy to be here. Planning on to do my first cycle. I was planning on starting for a relatively long time after competing in bodybuilding naturally. Found love for the sport of bodybuilding. I did 2 shows, in one I won a national title in teens, came 2nd in Juniors (placed 2nd to my good friend, we had the same coach, in the second one same thing won the teens category and placed 2nd in juniors. (Can confidently say that our team kinda dominated in both haha. Wanted to do a world championships as well, but life said otherwise so I didn't (there was only one person in my category anyways, so it would be boring).
ANYWAYS back to the cycle. I have decided to use PEDs as I wanna up the game a little. Giving myself time to reassess, until January (new year new me I guess (so I don't start right away and after two weeks decide I want to stop), which also gave me additional time to gain some knowledge. Currently I have "constructed" this cycle plan and Id like your opinion on it.
1. Blood work 2-4 weeks pre cycle: Total, Free testosterone, Estradiol, LH, FSH, SHBG, Prolactin, HDL, LDL, Triglycerides, Blood count, ALT, AST, Creatinine, eGFR, PSA
2. Dosing based on testosterone levels. After the show I did a blood test showing 4.29nmol/l (123ng/dl) total t. Which isn't very good. Did maximum to improve it and I feel like it is better as a no longer experience symptoms such as low libido, moodiness etc. (still holding quite a bit of water tho ) (Libido is not great still. But at least I don't have a erectile disfunction anymore haha) anyways the mote t I will have the more test I wanna start with (test e/ test c, probably cypionate). It it still will be in the lower range I will do 200-250mg a week of test. Test only cycle.
3. Keep the 250 for example for 4-6 weeks, monitoring sides, and after 4-6 weeks get another blood work: Total, Free testosterone, Estradiol (to really check how much I am converting), Prolactin, HDL, LDL, Triglycerides, Complete blood count, ALT, AST, Creatinine, eGFR. = If there will not be any sides and bloodworm checks out, meaning I am healthy, e2 is in range, prolactin too - I will increase the weekly dose of testosterone to 300mg (50 at a time), then repeat this process all over again, based on the converting either increase again after another 6 weeks or keep it.
4. Planning on to doing this for 20 weeks, then reduce the weekly dose to a TRT dose as I do not want to PCT, I simply don't see the point if I will be doing another cycle again soon. (keep in mind tho that I am doing this for bodybuilding purposes).
5. After 8 weeks of cruise Blood work once again, same as before the cycle to check weather I am healthy and good to go. Wait a bit more and do the second cycle.

As for supplements : Omega-3 at 4g a day, NAC, B6, magnesium, electrolytes, melatonin, calcium glutamate (if e2 will be higher try to do that before an AI), creatine, glutamine, zinc, vitamin C, D.

I will be trying to manage the sides with dosing only, not with an AI, however I will have Anastazole (if sides appear, e2 high confirmed by blood tests) and Raloxifene (if gyno develops).

So yea, pretty simple cycle, managing the dosing to prevent sides, trying not to use more medications that is absolutely necessary (one would say Lowes effective dose).

Hope everything is clear. Looking forward to the feedback!

The supplement routine looks really solid. I wish more people would load up on the omegas. It's such a big problem with people not getting enough. @exnaturalbodybuilder

toddthelineman · Oct 4, 2025

@exnaturalbodybuilder you look really good. Better than most people who use PEDs. I can only assume you are already being accused or questioned about gear use already. So when you start, I think you are going to get a lot of bang for your buck. Aromasin seems to be the preferred AI. It’s what I use. I appreciate your conservative approach. There’s a lot of ways to go about PEDs. Low dose, long time. Or higher dose, shorter time. And everything in between. Coming here before you started puts you years ahead of the game. I hope you stick to this log, I’m very eager to see your progress

exnaturalbodybuilder · Oct 4, 2025

ROIDDERS said:
great to see you do this log. i was just responding to your other post. make sure you get touchdown pictures and let us know which source you decided to use @exnaturalbodybuilder That would be awesome to see what you think.

Yea, will do.

exnaturalbodybuilder · Oct 4, 2025

2Thick said:
@exnaturalbodybuilder you never want gyno to appear and get to that point. always keep your E under control. once you get gyno it means your E is way out of whack

Good to know. I didnt mean full blown gymo but more like nipple sensitivity and other signs of it developing.

exnaturalbodybuilder · Oct 4, 2025

Ulter said:
The supplement routine looks really solid. I wish more people would load up on the omegas. It's such a big problem with people not getting enough. @exnaturalbodybuilder

Yea! Most people who take them take 1-2g of fish oil completely forgering that for them to male a significaz difference it should be at least 1g omega 3 a day.

exnaturalbodybuilder · Oct 4, 2025

toddthelineman said:
@exnaturalbodybuilder you look really good. Better than most people who use PEDs. I can only assume you are already being accused or questioned about gear use already. So when you start, I think you are going to get a lot of bang for your buck. Aromasin seems to be the preferred AI. It’s what I use. I appreciate your conservative approach. There’s a lot of ways to go about PEDs. Low dose, long time. Or higher dose, shorter time. And everything in between. Coming here before you started puts you years ahead of the game. I hope you stick to this log, I’m very eager to see your progress

I am. Was in the past. But mostly people think that i have come off steroids after the show. I generally tent to hold a lot of water naturally so when i was dry i was a lot smaller. However i dont think im in that of a good shape. I know naturals far better then me at around my age.

However thak u for the compliments. This is súch a positive space compared to instagram hahah

toddthelineman · Oct 4, 2025

exnaturalbodybuilder said:
However i dont think im in that of a good shape. I know naturals far better then me at around my age.

Yeah? Na. Show me someone in FAR better shape than you at your age, who is natty. That’s where the arguments about Ronnie Coleman and Kai Greene being natural begin. You are looking good, bro. You definitely need people you can trust to keep you on the right track.

exnaturalbodybuilder said:
This is súch a positive space compared to instagram haha

Instagram is a dopamine suck pit of despair. Designed to trap you like a slot machine. I can’t have it on my phone.

2Thick · Oct 4, 2025

exnaturalbodybuilder said:
Good to know. I didnt mean full blown gymo but more like nipple sensitivity and other signs of it developing.

yeah that could be an early sign

Ulter · Oct 4, 2025

exnaturalbodybuilder said:
Yea! Most people who take them take 1-2g of fish oil completely forgering that for them to male a significaz difference it should be at least 1g omega 3 a day.

yeah they are crucial

LevButlerov · Oct 4, 2025

exnaturalbodybuilder said:
Okay yea, I understand. Will add them.

update us soon

exnaturalbodybuilder · Oct 5, 2025

toddthelineman said:
Yeah? Na. Show me someone in FAR better shape than you at your age, who is natty. That’s where the arguments about Ronnie Coleman and Kai Greene being natural begin. You are looking good, bro. You definitely need people you can trust to keep you on the right track.

Not Far meaning miles away but cosiderably better. Haha

Even one of my team mates (the one who placed 1st in juniors coming back to my story) is only 8months older then me if i remember correctly.

But Im glad that there is someone who has realistov expectations of how should a natural look like.

Noah Wixx · Oct 5, 2025

LevButlerov said:
Fermented foods are solid, but dose and coverage are inconsistent. A good probiotic adds consistent CFUs and missing bifido strains that actually reach the colon, which helps regularity, bloat control, nutrient uptake, and clearance that influences e2.
Training stress, high protein, sweeteners, NSAIDs or PPIs can thin diversity even with fermented food, so a short 8–12 week multi strain course can fill the gap while you keep your food base. That's why I suggest adding probiotics @exnaturalbodybuilder

That is why i use them

LevButlerov · Oct 5, 2025

Noah Wixx said:
That is why i use them

Use them more

Noah Wixx · Oct 5, 2025

LevButlerov said:
Use them more

What u trying to say

LevButlerov · Oct 5, 2025

Noah Wixx said:
What u trying to say

its a secret

ballin2504 · Oct 6, 2025

exnaturalbodybuilder said:
Hey!
Happy to be here. Planning on to do my first cycle. I was planning on starting for a relatively long time after competing in bodybuilding naturally. Found love for the sport of bodybuilding. I did 2 shows, in one I won a national title in teens, came 2nd in Juniors (placed 2nd to my good friend, we had the same coach, in the second one same thing won the teens category and placed 2nd in juniors. (Can confidently say that our team kinda dominated in both haha. Wanted to do a world championships as well, but life said otherwise so I didn't (there was only one person in my category anyways, so it would be boring).
ANYWAYS back to the cycle. I have decided to use PEDs as I wanna up the game a little. Giving myself time to reassess, until January (new year new me I guess (so I don't start right away and after two weeks decide I want to stop), which also gave me additional time to gain some knowledge. Currently I have "constructed" this cycle plan and Id like your opinion on it.
1. Blood work 2-4 weeks pre cycle: Total, Free testosterone, Estradiol, LH, FSH, SHBG, Prolactin, HDL, LDL, Triglycerides, Blood count, ALT, AST, Creatinine, eGFR, PSA
2. Dosing based on testosterone levels. After the show I did a blood test showing 4.29nmol/l (123ng/dl) total t. Which isn't very good. Did maximum to improve it and I feel like it is better as a no longer experience symptoms such as low libido, moodiness etc. (still holding quite a bit of water tho ) (Libido is not great still. But at least I don't have a erectile disfunction anymore haha) anyways the mote t I will have the more test I wanna start with (test e/ test c, probably cypionate). It it still will be in the lower range I will do 200-250mg a week of test. Test only cycle.
3. Keep the 250 for example for 4-6 weeks, monitoring sides, and after 4-6 weeks get another blood work: Total, Free testosterone, Estradiol (to really check how much I am converting), Prolactin, HDL, LDL, Triglycerides, Complete blood count, ALT, AST, Creatinine, eGFR. = If there will not be any sides and bloodworm checks out, meaning I am healthy, e2 is in range, prolactin too - I will increase the weekly dose of testosterone to 300mg (50 at a time), then repeat this process all over again, based on the converting either increase again after another 6 weeks or keep it.
4. Planning on to doing this for 20 weeks, then reduce the weekly dose to a TRT dose as I do not want to PCT, I simply don't see the point if I will be doing another cycle again soon. (keep in mind tho that I am doing this for bodybuilding purposes).
5. After 8 weeks of cruise Blood work once again, same as before the cycle to check weather I am healthy and good to go. Wait a bit more and do the second cycle.

As for supplements : Omega-3 at 4g a day, NAC, B6, magnesium, electrolytes, melatonin, calcium glutamate (if e2 will be higher try to do that before an AI), creatine, glutamine, zinc, vitamin C, D.

I will be trying to manage the sides with dosing only, not with an AI, however I will have Anastazole (if sides appear, e2 high confirmed by blood tests) and Raloxifene (if gyno develops).

So yea, pretty simple cycle, managing the dosing to prevent sides, trying not to use more medications that is absolutely necessary (one would say Lowes effective dose).

Hope everything is clear. Looking forward to the feedback!

@exnaturalbodybuilder nice start to the log. Welcome to evo brother.

exnaturalbodybuilder · Oct 6, 2025

ballin2504 said:
@exnaturalbodybuilder nice start to the log. Welcome to evo brother.

Thank u!

exnaturalbodybuilder · Jan 28, 2026

exnaturalbodybuilder said:
Hey!
Happy to be here. Planning on to do my first cycle. I was planning on starting for a relatively long time after competing in bodybuilding naturally. Found love for the sport of bodybuilding. I did 2 shows, in one I won a national title in teens, came 2nd in Juniors (placed 2nd to my good friend, we had the same coach, in the second one same thing won the teens category and placed 2nd in juniors. (Can confidently say that our team kinda dominated in both haha. Wanted to do a world championships as well, but life said otherwise so I didn't (there was only one person in my category anyways, so it would be boring).
ANYWAYS back to the cycle. I have decided to use PEDs as I wanna up the game a little. Giving myself time to reassess, until January (new year new me I guess (so I don't start right away and after two weeks decide I want to stop), which also gave me additional time to gain some knowledge. Currently I have "constructed" this cycle plan and Id like your opinion on it.
1. Blood work 2-4 weeks pre cycle: Total, Free testosterone, Estradiol, LH, FSH, SHBG, Prolactin, HDL, LDL, Triglycerides, Blood count, ALT, AST, Creatinine, eGFR, PSA
2. Dosing based on testosterone levels. After the show I did a blood test showing 4.29nmol/l (123ng/dl) total t. Which isn't very good. Did maximum to improve it and I feel like it is better as a no longer experience symptoms such as low libido, moodiness etc. (still holding quite a bit of water tho ) (Libido is not great still. But at least I don't have a erectile disfunction anymore haha) anyways the mote t I will have the more test I wanna start with (test e/ test c, probably cypionate). It it still will be in the lower range I will do 200-250mg a week of test. Test only cycle.
3. Keep the 250 for example for 4-6 weeks, monitoring sides, and after 4-6 weeks get another blood work: Total, Free testosterone, Estradiol (to really check how much I am converting), Prolactin, HDL, LDL, Triglycerides, Complete blood count, ALT, AST, Creatinine, eGFR. = If there will not be any sides and bloodworm checks out, meaning I am healthy, e2 is in range, prolactin too - I will increase the weekly dose of testosterone to 300mg (50 at a time), then repeat this process all over again, based on the converting either increase again after another 6 weeks or keep it.
4. Planning on to doing this for 20 weeks, then reduce the weekly dose to a TRT dose as I do not want to PCT, I simply don't see the point if I will be doing another cycle again soon. (keep in mind tho that I am doing this for bodybuilding purposes).
5. After 8 weeks of cruise Blood work once again, same as before the cycle to check weather I am healthy and good to go. Wait a bit more and do the second cycle.

As for supplements : Omega-3 at 4g a day, NAC, B6, magnesium, electrolytes, melatonin, calcium glutamate (if e2 will be higher try to do that before an AI), creatine, glutamine, zinc, vitamin C, D.

I will be trying to manage the sides with dosing only, not with an AI, however I will have Anastazole (if sides appear, e2 high confirmed by blood tests) and Raloxifene (if gyno develops).

So yea, pretty simple cycle, managing the dosing to prevent sides, trying not to use more medications that is absolutely necessary (one would say Lowes effective dose).

Hope everything is clear. Looking forward to the feedback!

Hey, hope you are all well. So I proposed my idea of how I'd like to do my first cycle first month ago, I am 3 weeks in so I figured I will share the exact protocol, bloodwork and updates.

1) Stats:
- weight: starting point 8th-14th January average - 75.41kg
current weight 21th-28th January average - 76.41kg
- height: 177cm
- bf: around 13%, holding quite a bit of water currently

2) Training:
Pull A - Push A - Legs A - Rest - Pull B - Push B - Legs B - Rest. repeat

Pull A	Back width focus	total working sets: 10 back, 5 biceps, 2 rear delts
Push A	Chest focus	8 chest, 5 shoulders, 3 triceps
Legs A	Quads focus	8 quads, 3 adductors, 3-4 hamstrings, 2 calves
Pull B	Biceps and upper back focus	6 biceps, 10 back, 2 rear delts
Push B	Triceps and shoulders focus	7 shoulders, 6 triceps, 6 chest
Legs B	More hamstrings focused then A	6 hamstrings, 6 quads, 3 calves, 2 adductors

10 sets for back are total for the session, on with day more volume is in lat work, on upper back day more volume is traps and upper back.

The focus mostly dictates the volume allocation and order of movements - eg. pull B - biceps first - traps and upper back - lats - rear delts.
So far the recovery is fairly decent, will do reloads if needed.

3) Food: Training day - 3000kcal, 220p, 400c, 40f

- did not include the food itself its not in english

Rest day: 2650kcal, 220p, 250c, 63f

Water intake: 4.5 - 5l a day
Caffein intake: 2x double espresso shot and 3g matcha

4) Blood work pre-cycle:
Hormonal panel:

- forgot to put the free test calculation there sorry

Blood count:

Lipids:

Liver:

+ FIB-4 index: 0.69

Kidney health:

- Next blood test: 10th of February

5) Protocol:
As I said I wanted to determine the dose based on natural testosterone levels, so it's very low. (test levels were lower then expected 7.08nmol/l (US units that's 204 ng/dl)

150mg testosterone enanthate weekly, eod injections

- after the bloods at 10.2, I will see where my testosterone and estradiol sits and I plan to titrate up to 250mg weekly.

6) Blood pressure measured once weekly - 3 measurements average:

7) Fasting blood glucose - measured once weekly:

6) Supplementation:

Morning - empty stomach	Morning with meal	Lunch	Training	Evening
60mg zinc lactate	4000iu vitamin D	2g fish oil (33/22 =550mg epa + dha)	electrolyte complex (300mg sodium, 300mg potassium, 100mg magnesium)	2g fish oil (33/22 =550mg epa + dha)
300mg alpha gpc	4000iu vitamin K2	5g psyllium husk	50g maltodextrin (counted towards daily calories)	500mg citrus bergamot (25% flavonoids)
1000mg lion's mane 10:1 extract	2g fish oil (33/22 =550mg epa + dha)	1000mg vitamin c	8g creatine
500mg NAC	100mg CoQ10		5g glutamine	Pre bed:
1000mg vitamin c	300mg DIM			500mg NAC
5g glutamine	500mg Calcium D-glucarate		sometimes l-citrulline malate pre workout 12g	1000mg vitamin c
	500mg citrus bergamot (25% flavonoids)			5g glutamine
				500mg elemental magnesium from magnesium bisglycinate
	with meal 2: 1000mg vitamin c			10mg melatonin and 5g glycine

exnaturalbodybuilder · Jan 28, 2026

Progress pics - check ins for the 3 weeks:

LevButlerov · Jan 28, 2026

exnaturalbodybuilder said:
Hey, hope you are all well. So I proposed my idea of how I'd like to do my first cycle first month ago, I am 3 weeks in so I figured I will share the exact protocol, bloodwork and updates.

1) Stats:
- weight: starting point 8th-14th January average - 75.41kg
current weight 21th-28th January average - 76.41kg
- height: 177cm
- bf: around 13%, holding quite a bit of water currently

2) Training:
Pull A - Push A - Legs A - Rest - Pull B - Push B - Legs B - Rest. repeat

Pull A Back width focus total working sets: 10 back, 5 biceps, 2 rear delts
Push A Chest focus 8 chest, 5 shoulders, 3 triceps
Legs A Quads focus 8 quads, 3 adductors, 3-4 hamstrings, 2 calves
Pull B Biceps and upper back focus 6 biceps, 10 back, 2 rear delts
Push B Triceps and shoulders focus 7 shoulders, 6 triceps, 6 chest
Legs B More hamstrings focused then A 6 hamstrings, 6 quads, 3 calves, 2 adductors

10 sets for back are total for the session, on with day more volume is in lat work, on upper back day more volume is traps and upper back.

The focus mostly dictates the volume allocation and order of movements - eg. pull B - biceps first - traps and upper back - lats - rear delts.
So far the recovery is fairly decent, will do reloads if needed.

3) Food: Training day - 3000kcal, 220p, 400c, 40f
View attachment 174587
- did not include the food itself its not in english

Rest day: 2650kcal, 220p, 250c, 63f
View attachment 174588
Water intake: 4.5 - 5l a day
Caffein intake: 2x double espresso shot and 3g matcha

4) Blood work pre-cycle:
Hormonal panel:
View attachment 174601
- forgot to put the free test calculation there sorry

Blood count:
View attachment 174602
View attachment 174603

Lipids:
View attachment 174604

Liver:
View attachment 174605
+ FIB-4 index: 0.69

Kidney health:
View attachment 174606

- Next blood test: 10th of February

5) Protocol:
As I said I wanted to determine the dose based on natural testosterone levels, so it's very low. (test levels were lower then expected 7.08nmol/l (US units that's 204 ng/dl)

150mg testosterone enanthate weekly, eod injections

- after the bloods at 10.2, I will see where my testosterone and estradiol sits and I plan to titrate up to 250mg weekly.

6) Blood pressure measured once weekly - 3 measurements average:
View attachment 174607

7) Fasting blood glucose - measured once weekly:
View attachment 174608

6) Supplementation:

Morning - empty stomach Morning with meal Lunch Training Evening
60mg zinc lactate 4000iu vitamin D 2g fish oil (33/22 =550mg epa + dha) electrolyte complex (300mg sodium, 300mg potassium, 100mg magnesium) 2g fish oil (33/22 =550mg epa + dha)
300mg alpha gpc 4000iu vitamin K2 5g psyllium husk 50g maltodextrin (counted towards daily calories) 500mg citrus bergamot (25% flavonoids)
1000mg lion's mane 10:1 extract 2g fish oil (33/22 =550mg epa + dha) 1000mg vitamin c 8g creatine
500mg NAC 100mg CoQ10 5g glutamine Pre bed:
1000mg vitamin c 300mg DIM 500mg NAC
5g glutamine 500mg Calcium D-glucarate sometimes l-citrulline malate pre workout 12g 1000mg vitamin c
500mg citrus bergamot (25% flavonoids) 5g glutamine
500mg elemental magnesium from magnesium bisglycinate
with meal 2: 1000mg vitamin c 10mg melatonin and 5g glycine

exnaturalbodybuilder said:
Progress pics - check ins for the 3 weeks:

welcome back to the EVO family

@exnaturalbodybuilder you look good in the pics lean!
start by sharing the actual blood work paper blur personal info

@BeMe @HarleyGuy @s.gentz
@Allupfromhere @Pigsy @Dreamer @Freki @R.AP
@waggat @Coolguy @Trenhead3cc @Kopite67

Dreamer · Jan 28, 2026

exnaturalbodybuilder said:
Progress pics - check ins for the 3 weeks:

Looking great! solid size and conditioning, you can pose too!

Kopite67 · Jan 28, 2026

exnaturalbodybuilder said:
Hey, hope you are all well. So I proposed my idea of how I'd like to do my first cycle first month ago, I am 3 weeks in so I figured I will share the exact protocol, bloodwork and updates.

1) Stats:
- weight: starting point 8th-14th January average - 75.41kg
current weight 21th-28th January average - 76.41kg
- height: 177cm
- bf: around 13%, holding quite a bit of water currently

2) Training:
Pull A - Push A - Legs A - Rest - Pull B - Push B - Legs B - Rest. repeat

Pull A Back width focus total working sets: 10 back, 5 biceps, 2 rear delts
Push A Chest focus 8 chest, 5 shoulders, 3 triceps
Legs A Quads focus 8 quads, 3 adductors, 3-4 hamstrings, 2 calves
Pull B Biceps and upper back focus 6 biceps, 10 back, 2 rear delts
Push B Triceps and shoulders focus 7 shoulders, 6 triceps, 6 chest
Legs B More hamstrings focused then A 6 hamstrings, 6 quads, 3 calves, 2 adductors

10 sets for back are total for the session, on with day more volume is in lat work, on upper back day more volume is traps and upper back.

The focus mostly dictates the volume allocation and order of movements - eg. pull B - biceps first - traps and upper back - lats - rear delts.
So far the recovery is fairly decent, will do reloads if needed.

3) Food: Training day - 3000kcal, 220p, 400c, 40f
View attachment 174587
- did not include the food itself its not in english

Rest day: 2650kcal, 220p, 250c, 63f
View attachment 174588
Water intake: 4.5 - 5l a day
Caffein intake: 2x double espresso shot and 3g matcha

4) Blood work pre-cycle:
Hormonal panel:
View attachment 174601
- forgot to put the free test calculation there sorry

Blood count:
View attachment 174602
View attachment 174603

Lipids:
View attachment 174604

Liver:
View attachment 174605
+ FIB-4 index: 0.69

Kidney health:
View attachment 174606

- Next blood test: 10th of February

5) Protocol:
As I said I wanted to determine the dose based on natural testosterone levels, so it's very low. (test levels were lower then expected 7.08nmol/l (US units that's 204 ng/dl)

150mg testosterone enanthate weekly, eod injections

- after the bloods at 10.2, I will see where my testosterone and estradiol sits and I plan to titrate up to 250mg weekly.

6) Blood pressure measured once weekly - 3 measurements average:
View attachment 174607

7) Fasting blood glucose - measured once weekly:
View attachment 174608

6) Supplementation:

Morning - empty stomach Morning with meal Lunch Training Evening
60mg zinc lactate 4000iu vitamin D 2g fish oil (33/22 =550mg epa + dha) electrolyte complex (300mg sodium, 300mg potassium, 100mg magnesium) 2g fish oil (33/22 =550mg epa + dha)
300mg alpha gpc 4000iu vitamin K2 5g psyllium husk 50g maltodextrin (counted towards daily calories) 500mg citrus bergamot (25% flavonoids)
1000mg lion's mane 10:1 extract 2g fish oil (33/22 =550mg epa + dha) 1000mg vitamin c 8g creatine
500mg NAC 100mg CoQ10 5g glutamine Pre bed:
1000mg vitamin c 300mg DIM 500mg NAC
5g glutamine 500mg Calcium D-glucarate sometimes l-citrulline malate pre workout 12g 1000mg vitamin c
500mg citrus bergamot (25% flavonoids) 5g glutamine
500mg elemental magnesium from magnesium bisglycinate
with meal 2: 1000mg vitamin c 10mg melatonin and 5g glycine

Amazing log @exnaturalbodybuilder . Incredible detail that is going to take me a bit to fully absorb

. Great pics as well. I gather welcome back to Evo is in order. Going to thoroughly enjoy following this journey

exnaturalbodybuilder · Jan 28, 2026

LevButlerov said:
welcome back to the EVO family @exnaturalbodybuilder you look good in the pics lean!
start by sharing the actual blood work paper blur personal info

@BeMe @HarleyGuy @s.gentz
@Allupfromhere @Pigsy @Dreamer @Freki @R.AP
@waggat @Coolguy @Trenhead3cc @Kopite67

LevButlerov said:

welcome back to the EVO family @exnaturalbodybuilder you look good in the pics lean!
start by sharing the actual blood work paper blur personal info

@BeMe @HarleyGuy @s.gentz
@Allupfromhere @Pigsy @Dreamer @Freki @R.AP
@waggat @Coolguy @Trenhead3cc @Kopite67

Click to expand...

Sure thing

LevButlerov · Jan 29, 2026

exnaturalbodybuilder said:
Sure thing

I'm not sure the language but i could translate it, shows you have very low testosterone level, you are not on anything now? @exnaturalbodybuilder

Trenhead3cc · Jan 29, 2026

Will blow up now that you have got into PeDS

exnaturalbodybuilder · Jan 29, 2026

LevButlerov said:
I'm not sure the language but i could translate it, shows you have very low testosterone level, you are not on anything now? @exnaturalbodybuilder

I have never been on anything. This is natural bloodwork before I hopped on 3 weeks ago. I was literally hypogonadal. To give you a bit of a timeline - in may last year I competed naturally won two shows and got 2nd two times. A month after that I got my test level tested and I was at 4.29nmol/l. Thats when I started dabbing into the idea of hopping on. Been researching since then and now it’s a reality. I did everything I could (except from hcg monotherapy) to get my test levels higher. This was the result. The blood test is from December showing 7.98nmol/l.

I hopped on 8th of January and started at 150mg of testosterone enanthate to give myself a replacement dose so I will be able to asses the response (regarding e2 etc.). In 11 days I will get a hormonal panel to see how tha works out. Then I plan to increase the dose to 250mg weekly for 10-12 weeks, then titrating up by 20-30% when rate of progress (in the gym) slows down on that particular dose up until bloodwork says it’s time to pull back - then I will go to cruise.

exnaturalbodybuilder · Jan 29, 2026

Trenhead3cc said:
Will blow up now that you have got into PeDS

Certainly hope so. We will see it is too soon to asses, but I see minor changes physique wise (pic comparison) between week 1 and week 3 already.

Regarding strength progression, it started to kick in the last week - almost each set each excersize there has been a significant progression (+1-3reps or 5kg (10kg on some movements).

I feel I have a bit more energy throughout the day. However my libido is still quite low, but I don’t mind that as I’m single and live like a hermit just doing coaching, consultations eating, cooking, going to school (medicine haha) and going to the gym.

I excited to see the progress.

exnaturalbodybuilder · Jan 29, 2026

Dreamer said:
Looking great! solid size and conditioning, you can pose too!

Thanks a lot!
Haven’t posed for a few months I had surgery and got demotivated so it’s not quite there yet. But I’m going full force again so the posing will get better.

exnaturalbodybuilder · Jan 29, 2026

Kopite67 said:
Amazing log @exnaturalbodybuilder . Incredible detail that is going to take me a bit to fully absorb . Great pics as well. I gather welcome back to Evo is in order. Going to thoroughly enjoy following this journey

Thank you!
Thats one of my goals. I want to do this log as detailed as possible. Maybe it will inspire someone in the future to not do 500mg test and dbol kickstart first cycle. Slow and steady (especially coming from my position of having low t).

waggat · Jan 29, 2026

exnaturalbodybuilder said:
Hey, hope you are all well. So I proposed my idea of how I'd like to do my first cycle first month ago, I am 3 weeks in so I figured I will share the exact protocol, bloodwork and updates.

1) Stats:
- weight: starting point 8th-14th January average - 75.41kg
current weight 21th-28th January average - 76.41kg
- height: 177cm
- bf: around 13%, holding quite a bit of water currently

2) Training:
Pull A - Push A - Legs A - Rest - Pull B - Push B - Legs B - Rest. repeat

Pull A Back width focus total working sets: 10 back, 5 biceps, 2 rear delts
Push A Chest focus 8 chest, 5 shoulders, 3 triceps
Legs A Quads focus 8 quads, 3 adductors, 3-4 hamstrings, 2 calves
Pull B Biceps and upper back focus 6 biceps, 10 back, 2 rear delts
Push B Triceps and shoulders focus 7 shoulders, 6 triceps, 6 chest
Legs B More hamstrings focused then A 6 hamstrings, 6 quads, 3 calves, 2 adductors

10 sets for back are total for the session, on with day more volume is in lat work, on upper back day more volume is traps and upper back.

The focus mostly dictates the volume allocation and order of movements - eg. pull B - biceps first - traps and upper back - lats - rear delts.
So far the recovery is fairly decent, will do reloads if needed.

3) Food: Training day - 3000kcal, 220p, 400c, 40f
View attachment 174587
- did not include the food itself its not in english

Rest day: 2650kcal, 220p, 250c, 63f
View attachment 174588
Water intake: 4.5 - 5l a day
Caffein intake: 2x double espresso shot and 3g matcha

4) Blood work pre-cycle:
Hormonal panel:
View attachment 174601
- forgot to put the free test calculation there sorry

Blood count:
View attachment 174602
View attachment 174603

Lipids:
View attachment 174604

Liver:
View attachment 174605
+ FIB-4 index: 0.69

Kidney health:
View attachment 174606

- Next blood test: 10th of February

5) Protocol:
As I said I wanted to determine the dose based on natural testosterone levels, so it's very low. (test levels were lower then expected 7.08nmol/l (US units that's 204 ng/dl)

150mg testosterone enanthate weekly, eod injections

- after the bloods at 10.2, I will see where my testosterone and estradiol sits and I plan to titrate up to 250mg weekly.

6) Blood pressure measured once weekly - 3 measurements average:
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7) Fasting blood glucose - measured once weekly:
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6) Supplementation:

Morning - empty stomach Morning with meal Lunch Training Evening
60mg zinc lactate 4000iu vitamin D 2g fish oil (33/22 =550mg epa + dha) electrolyte complex (300mg sodium, 300mg potassium, 100mg magnesium) 2g fish oil (33/22 =550mg epa + dha)
300mg alpha gpc 4000iu vitamin K2 5g psyllium husk 50g maltodextrin (counted towards daily calories) 500mg citrus bergamot (25% flavonoids)
1000mg lion's mane 10:1 extract 2g fish oil (33/22 =550mg epa + dha) 1000mg vitamin c 8g creatine
500mg NAC 100mg CoQ10 5g glutamine Pre bed:
1000mg vitamin c 300mg DIM 500mg NAC
5g glutamine 500mg Calcium D-glucarate sometimes l-citrulline malate pre workout 12g 1000mg vitamin c
500mg citrus bergamot (25% flavonoids) 5g glutamine
500mg elemental magnesium from magnesium bisglycinate
with meal 2: 1000mg vitamin c 10mg melatonin and 5g glycine

exnaturalbodybuilder said:
Progress pics - check ins for the 3 weeks:

Welcome back mate. Workouts and macros look good.

Looking really good in the photos too. Very balanced physique. Look forward to seeing your progress going forward.

LevButlerov · Jan 29, 2026

exnaturalbodybuilder said:
I have never been on anything. This is natural bloodwork before I hopped on 3 weeks ago. I was literally hypogonadal. To give you a bit of a timeline - in may last year I competed naturally won two shows and got 2nd two times. A month after that I got my test level tested and I was at 4.29nmol/l. Thats when I started dabbing into the idea of hopping on. Been researching since then and now it’s a reality. I did everything I could (except from hcg monotherapy) to get my test levels higher. This was the result. The blood test is from December showing 7.98nmol/l.

I hopped on 8th of January and started at 150mg of testosterone enanthate to give myself a replacement dose so I will be able to asses the response (regarding e2 etc.). In 11 days I will get a hormonal panel to see how tha works out. Then I plan to increase the dose to 250mg weekly for 10-12 weeks, then titrating up by 20-30% when rate of progress (in the gym) slows down on that particular dose up until bloodwork says it’s time to pull back - then I will go to cruise.

I see so this was before you did any gear, amazing how low it was. @exnaturalbodybuilder
I would get bloods 3 weeks into your TRT when is this? in about 7 days?

exnaturalbodybuilder · Jan 29, 2026

LevButlerov said:
I see so this was before you did any gear, amazing how low it was. @exnaturalbodybuilder
I would get bloods 3 weeks into your TRT when is this? in about 7 days?

It’s about 3 weeks now. I ordered a blood test in 10 days so about the 4 week mark.

LevButlerov · Jan 30, 2026

exnaturalbodybuilder said:
It’s about 3 weeks now. I ordered a blood test in 10 days so about the 4 week mark.

10 days is fine if already ordered

exnaturalbodybuilder · Feb 12, 2026

Blood work updates.
(Eonzinophils (I assume in English) are elevated because I have some kind of mild cold.
5th week into 150mg testosterone weekly.
Avg weight for the last week : 78.38kg

Currently doing a 3 day training deload (CNS could not keep up). Today and one day left, then resuming training.

Pushing to 300mg test weekly in three days for a proper cycle!

LevButlerov · Feb 12, 2026

exnaturalbodybuilder said:
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Blood work updates.
(Eonzinophils (I assume in English) are elevated because I have some kind of mild cold.
5th week into 150mg testosterone weekly.
Avg weight for the last week : 78.38kg

Currently doing a 3 day training deload (CNS could not keep up). Today and one day left, then resuming training.

Pushing to 300mg test weekly in three days for a proper cycle!

The Eosinophils are basically white blood cells you likely have a cold as you said

@exnaturalbodybuilder
your T is high for 150mgs/week, do you have free test here? or I am missing it?

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Dreamer · Feb 12, 2026

exnaturalbodybuilder said:
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Blood work updates.
(Eonzinophils (I assume in English) are elevated because I have some kind of mild cold.
5th week into 150mg testosterone weekly.
Avg weight for the last week : 78.38kg

Currently doing a 3 day training deload (CNS could not keep up). Today and one day left, then resuming training.

Pushing to 300mg test weekly in three days for a proper cycle!

Quite clean bloods, with the usual elevations expected in bodybuilders, your lipids are solid, which is one area of bloods I tend to obsess over.

Made it quite painful not in english

codezz · Feb 12, 2026

Nice log my brother, ill be following along, @exnaturalbodybuilder

waggat · Feb 12, 2026

exnaturalbodybuilder said:
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Blood work updates.
(Eonzinophils (I assume in English) are elevated because I have some kind of mild cold.
5th week into 150mg testosterone weekly.
Avg weight for the last week : 78.38kg

Currently doing a 3 day training deload (CNS could not keep up). Today and one day left, then resuming training.

Pushing to 300mg test weekly in three days for a proper cycle!

What issues were you having that prompted the deload mate? Just general fatigue or?

exnaturalbodybuilder · Feb 12, 2026

LevButlerov said:
The Eosinophils are basically white blood cells you likely have a cold as you said @exnaturalbodybuilder
your T is high for 150mgs/week, do you have free test here? or I am missing it?

@BeMe @HarleyGuy @s.gentz
@Allupfromhere @Pigsy @Dreamer @Freki @R.AP
@waggat @Coolguy @Trenhead3cc @Kopite67 @codezz

Didn’t order free test. It’s just a calculation which is more expensive than the actual testosterone test itself. But free would be 0.98nmol/l and bioavailable 26. And yes they are quite high for 150mg but note that I injected the morning before so this is 25-26h after injection, at lowest pt it would be like 30-32

exnaturalbodybuilder · Feb 12, 2026

waggat said:
What issues were you having that prompted the deload mate? Just general fatigue or?

Yes. I was recovering very well in terms of muscle recovery. Never sore even tho this is the most volume at high intensity I have done in the last 3-4 years. But the volume higher then I’m used to at high intensity comes at a cost hahah CNS couldn’t keep up and I was getting brain fog, fatigue etc. since around week 4 so I decidied to basically do one split rotation off before increasing the dose to start all ready again.

LevButlerov · Feb 13, 2026

exnaturalbodybuilder said:
Didn’t order free test. It’s just a calculation which is more expensive than the actual testosterone test itself. But free would be 0.98nmol/l and bioavailable 26. And yes they are quite high for 150mg but note that I injected the morning before so this is 25-26h after injection, at lowest pt it would be like 30-32

I would get free test i the future to see vs shbg @exnaturalbodybuilder

HarleyGuy · Feb 14, 2026

exnaturalbodybuilder said:
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Blood work updates.
(Eonzinophils (I assume in English) are elevated because I have some kind of mild cold.
5th week into 150mg testosterone weekly.
Avg weight for the last week : 78.38kg

Currently doing a 3 day training deload (CNS could not keep up). Today and one day left, then resuming training.

Pushing to 300mg test weekly in three days for a proper cycle!

You're responding well on 150mgs bro and I don't see any issues except you're fighting something off but if you feel fine you can still push it in the gym. You built a stellar natural physique on what appears to be hypogonadal bloods.

With your base physique you're going to blow up on 300mg I'm looking forward to seeing your progress.

exnaturalbodybuilder · Feb 14, 2026

HarleyGuy said:
You're responding well on 150mgs bro and I don't see any issues except you're fighting something off but if you feel fine you can still push it in the gym. You built a stellar natural physique on what appears to be hypogonadal bloods.

With your base physique you're going to blow up on 300mg I'm looking forward to seeing your progress.

Thank you! I am looking forward too .

HarleyGuy · Feb 15, 2026

exnaturalbodybuilder said:
Thank you! I am looking forward too .

Yes bro let's do it! I'm pumped for this log... a natty going on the sauce... this will be fun!
@LevButlerov you good with these doses? I think he's being pretty conservative and responsible for his first blast.

LevButlerov · Feb 15, 2026

HarleyGuy said:
Yes bro let's do it! I'm pumped for this log... a natty going on the sauce... this will be fun!
@LevButlerov you good with these doses? I think he's being pretty conservative and responsible for his first blast.

hard to say seems ok if @exnaturalbodybuilder is going to stay at those doses

@HarleyGuy

exnaturalbodybuilder · Feb 16, 2026

LevButlerov said:
hard to say seems ok if @exnaturalbodybuilder is going to stay at those doses @HarleyGuy

So far I don’t plan to increase anything (literally pinned the increased dose a day ago haha). The plan as I described is to increase the dose, by 25-30%, if training performance/progress declines significantly compared to the starting point at this dose and LABS ALLOW (if sth is off the baseline too much and its not resolved via dietary changes/supplementation then cruise). Let that be 10,12,16,20 weeks (likely around 12 I guess, but longer the better at least I save money). And also obviously first increase food or something else the pharmacology.

exnaturalbodybuilder · Feb 16, 2026

Also, another update.
This bulk I wanted to resolve my poor relationship with food. (The primary reason why I was hypogonadal is that I lost around 35kg when I was 13 in like 4 months getting down to around 50kg bw and suffered anorexia).
I do not suffer that now, but binge eating stayed with me. If any highly palatable food touches my tongue I cannot stop.
So I wanted to resolve this by weekly cheat meals. One off plan meal a week. The idea was that if I have one every week I will not binge since the next cheat a week later won’t go away.
Well my dopamine fried ass brain does not comprehend this. Tried it yesterday for the first time. Got myself a Neapolitan pizza (it was so good) BUT my roommate baked some cake so I had one piece - 30min later 2protein bars, 6 pieces of cake, nuts, half a muffin etc.

So yea a little report about this. I will possibly consult a psychologist or someone about this haha. But I operate best on exactly structured plan as long as I do not go away from it I don’t crave anything. (But it’s kind of limiting, when I go out with family or client I cannot get any off plan meal because the restaurant does not have enough food for what comes after haha).

Scale weight jumped up by 1.3kg to 80kg flat which is not that horrendous tho, the look is a little softer it will be off in 2-3 days

LevButlerov · Feb 16, 2026

exnaturalbodybuilder said:
So far I don’t plan to increase anything (literally pinned the increased dose a day ago haha). The plan as I described is to increase the dose, by 25-30%, if training performance/progress declines significantly compared to the starting point at this dose and LABS ALLOW (if sth is off the baseline too much and its not resolved via dietary changes/supplementation then cruise). Let that be 10,12,16,20 weeks (likely around 12 I guess, but longer the better at least I save money). And also obviously first increase food or something else the pharmacology.

thats fine lets go with the plan

LevButlerov · Feb 16, 2026

exnaturalbodybuilder said:
Also, another update.
This bulk I wanted to resolve my poor relationship with food. (The primary reason why I was hypogonadal is that I lost around 35kg when I was 13 in like 4 months getting down to around 50kg bw and suffered anorexia).
I do not suffer that now, but binge eating stayed with me. If any highly palatable food touches my tongue I cannot stop.
So I wanted to resolve this by weekly cheat meals. One off plan meal a week. The idea was that if I have one every week I will not binge since the next cheat a week later won’t go away.
Well my dopamine fried ass brain does not comprehend this. Tried it yesterday for the first time. Got myself a Neapolitan pizza (it was so good) BUT my roommate baked some cake so I had one piece - 30min later 2protein bars, 6 pieces of cake, nuts, half a muffin etc.

So yea a little report about this. I will possibly consult a psychologist or someone about this haha. But I operate best on exactly structured plan as long as I do not go away from it I don’t crave anything. (But it’s kind of limiting, when I go out with family or client I cannot get any off plan meal because the restaurant does not have enough food for what comes after haha).

Scale weight jumped up by 1.3kg to 80kg flat which is not that horrendous tho, the look is a little softer it will be off in 2-3 days

fixing your food relationship is huge

@exnaturalbodybuilder
i want to see you on the podcast discuss how you are helping resolve it, this is huge for EVO brothers and sisters

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codezz · Feb 16, 2026

exnaturalbodybuilder said:
Also, another update.
This bulk I wanted to resolve my poor relationship with food. (The primary reason why I was hypogonadal is that I lost around 35kg when I was 13 in like 4 months getting down to around 50kg bw and suffered anorexia).
I do not suffer that now, but binge eating stayed with me. If any highly palatable food touches my tongue I cannot stop.
So I wanted to resolve this by weekly cheat meals. One off plan meal a week. The idea was that if I have one every week I will not binge since the next cheat a week later won’t go away.
Well my dopamine fried ass brain does not comprehend this. Tried it yesterday for the first time. Got myself a Neapolitan pizza (it was so good) BUT my roommate baked some cake so I had one piece - 30min later 2protein bars, 6 pieces of cake, nuts, half a muffin etc.

So yea a little report about this. I will possibly consult a psychologist or someone about this haha. But I operate best on exactly structured plan as long as I do not go away from it I don’t crave anything. (But it’s kind of limiting, when I go out with family or client I cannot get any off plan meal because the restaurant does not have enough food for what comes after haha).

Scale weight jumped up by 1.3kg to 80kg flat which is not that horrendous tho, the look is a little softer it will be off in 2-3 days

@exnaturalbodybuilder once u fix that relationship with the food it will be good brother, what helps me easier is low dose reta to keep my cravings at bay

exnaturalbodybuilder · Feb 16, 2026

codezz said:
@exnaturalbodybuilder once u fix that relationship with the food it will be good brother, what helps me easier is low dose reta to keep my cravings at bay

Yes I looked into that. My problem tho is not cravings. The problem is once I have a cheat meal/off plan meal I cannot stop eating. It’s a dopamine signaling problem - I get too much dopamine from the palatable foods and I cannot control the appetite at all then.

When I don’t have any off plan meal I do not get any cravings at all.

codezz · Feb 16, 2026

exnaturalbodybuilder said:
Yes I looked into that. My problem tho is not cravings. The problem is once I have a cheat meal/off plan meal I cannot stop eating. It’s a dopamine signaling problem - I get too much dopamine from the palatable foods and I cannot control the appetite at all then.

When I don’t have any off plan meal I do not get any cravings at all.

I understand man, i feel still maybe try a little bit of reta as its such a powerful peptide, I know u may not want to lose weight, which is why I suggest to only do a very low dose as alot of guys still use it on a bulk to keep cravings at bay, and it helps keep them on thier diet, u may find it will really help

exnaturalbodybuilder · Feb 16, 2026

codezz said:
I understand man, i feel still maybe try a little bit of reta as its such a powerful peptide, I know u may not want to lose weight, which is why I suggest to only do a very low dose as alot of guys still use it on a bulk to keep cravings at bay, and it helps keep them on thier diet, u may find it will really help

Yea, it’s a good suggestion. I’ll look into it more. Thanks!

waggat · Feb 16, 2026

exnaturalbodybuilder said:
Also, another update.
This bulk I wanted to resolve my poor relationship with food. (The primary reason why I was hypogonadal is that I lost around 35kg when I was 13 in like 4 months getting down to around 50kg bw and suffered anorexia).
I do not suffer that now, but binge eating stayed with me. If any highly palatable food touches my tongue I cannot stop.
So I wanted to resolve this by weekly cheat meals. One off plan meal a week. The idea was that if I have one every week I will not binge since the next cheat a week later won’t go away.
Well my dopamine fried ass brain does not comprehend this. Tried it yesterday for the first time. Got myself a Neapolitan pizza (it was so good) BUT my roommate baked some cake so I had one piece - 30min later 2protein bars, 6 pieces of cake, nuts, half a muffin etc.

So yea a little report about this. I will possibly consult a psychologist or someone about this haha. But I operate best on exactly structured plan as long as I do not go away from it I don’t crave anything. (But it’s kind of limiting, when I go out with family or client I cannot get any off plan meal because the restaurant does not have enough food for what comes after haha).

Scale weight jumped up by 1.3kg to 80kg flat which is not that horrendous tho, the look is a little softer it will be off in 2-3 days

Hey mate, so you've had that issue since you were younger? I guess like you said the short term fix is to not go off plan but the long term solution is to fix the underlying issue with a psychologist or similar.

HarleyGuy · Feb 16, 2026

LevButlerov said:
hard to say seems ok if @exnaturalbodybuilder is going to stay at those doses @HarleyGuy

Agreed.

HarleyGuy · Feb 16, 2026

exnaturalbodybuilder said:
Yes I looked into that. My problem tho is not cravings. The problem is once I have a cheat meal/off plan meal I cannot stop eating. It’s a dopamine signaling problem - I get too much dopamine from the palatable foods and I cannot control the appetite at all then.

When I don’t have any off plan meal I do not get any cravings at all.

This would be a great podcast subject brother. I think a lot of listeners would relate. I went through both a salty and sweet phase (separately) and gained 80lbs due to this back in 2021-2022.

Dreamer · Feb 17, 2026

exnaturalbodybuilder said:
Also, another update.
This bulk I wanted to resolve my poor relationship with food. (The primary reason why I was hypogonadal is that I lost around 35kg when I was 13 in like 4 months getting down to around 50kg bw and suffered anorexia).
I do not suffer that now, but binge eating stayed with me. If any highly palatable food touches my tongue I cannot stop.
So I wanted to resolve this by weekly cheat meals. One off plan meal a week. The idea was that if I have one every week I will not binge since the next cheat a week later won’t go away.
Well my dopamine fried ass brain does not comprehend this. Tried it yesterday for the first time. Got myself a Neapolitan pizza (it was so good) BUT my roommate baked some cake so I had one piece - 30min later 2protein bars, 6 pieces of cake, nuts, half a muffin etc.

So yea a little report about this. I will possibly consult a psychologist or someone about this haha. But I operate best on exactly structured plan as long as I do not go away from it I don’t crave anything. (But it’s kind of limiting, when I go out with family or client I cannot get any off plan meal because the restaurant does not have enough food for what comes after haha).

Scale weight jumped up by 1.3kg to 80kg flat which is not that horrendous tho, the look is a little softer it will be off in 2-3 days

Man, I really cant have cheat meals, I dont have much self control with anything, I need to be 100% disciplined or I cant do it.

Retatrutide helped with this for me, but honestly, I dont eat off plan pretty much ever, unless forced to, and you learn to enjoy it

exnaturalbodybuilder · Feb 17, 2026

waggat said:
Hey mate, so you've had that issue since you were younger? I guess like you said the short term fix is to not go off plan but the long term solution is to fix the underlying issue with a psychologist or similar.

Yes, past few years. It’s just a side thing I wanted to improve. Will work on it.

exnaturalbodybuilder · Mar 23, 2026

Hello!!!
Long time no see.
These are week 11 growth phase check ins.
Weight rn around 82.5kg fasted.
Gear 300mg test only.
Food:
High days (chest focused day) 3350kcal
Training day 3100kcal
Rest day 2700kcal

I’m ordering blood work to see what’s up with e2 as well (now it’s 5th week in 300)

PS. Posing kind of sucks dunno why, will have to practice a bit more. (Out of nowhere I just started to suck at posing from one day to another)

LevButlerov · Mar 23, 2026

exnaturalbodybuilder said:
Hello!!!
Long time no see.
These are week 11 growth phase check ins.
Weight rn around 82.5kg fasted.
Gear 300mg test only.
Food:
High days (chest focused day) 3350kcal
Training day 3100kcal
Rest day 2700kcal

I’m ordering blood work to see what’s up with e2 as well (now it’s 5th week in 300)

PS. Posing kind of sucks dunno why, will have to practice a bit more. (Out of nowhere I just started to suck at posing from one day to another)

welcome back to the EVO family

looking massive and big good to have you back @exnaturalbodybuilder

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waggat · Mar 23, 2026

exnaturalbodybuilder said:
Hello!!!
Long time no see.
These are week 11 growth phase check ins.
Weight rn around 82.5kg fasted.
Gear 300mg test only.
Food:
High days (chest focused day) 3350kcal
Training day 3100kcal
Rest day 2700kcal

I’m ordering blood work to see what’s up with e2 as well (now it’s 5th week in 300)

PS. Posing kind of sucks dunno why, will have to practice a bit more. (Out of nowhere I just started to suck at posing from one day to another)

Looking good mate. Very well balanced physique.

Dreamer · Mar 23, 2026

exnaturalbodybuilder said:
Hello!!!
Long time no see.
These are week 11 growth phase check ins.
Weight rn around 82.5kg fasted.
Gear 300mg test only.
Food:
High days (chest focused day) 3350kcal
Training day 3100kcal
Rest day 2700kcal

I’m ordering blood work to see what’s up with e2 as well (now it’s 5th week in 300)

PS. Posing kind of sucks dunno why, will have to practice a bit more. (Out of nowhere I just started to suck at posing from one day to another)

Looking good brother, posing looks a whole lot better than what I can do

Grumpy · Mar 23, 2026

Looking good mate im also hopeless at posing its a whole new thing to learn

LH5515 · Mar 23, 2026

exnaturalbodybuilder said:
Hello!!!
Long time no see.
These are week 11 growth phase check ins.
Weight rn around 82.5kg fasted.
Gear 300mg test only.
Food:
High days (chest focused day) 3350kcal
Training day 3100kcal
Rest day 2700kcal

I’m ordering blood work to see what’s up with e2 as well (now it’s 5th week in 300)

PS. Posing kind of sucks dunno why, will have to practice a bit more. (Out of nowhere I just started to suck at posing from one day to another)

Nice log brother.

Will be following for sure.

Physique is balanced. Posing is better than most

rizzlekdizzle · Mar 23, 2026

very aesthetic physique there brother! Would be a goal for many

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