Mid cycle Test switch

BruceAllMighty · May 16, 2025

45 year old male
5'8 184lbs 17%body fat
3rd cycle

Hey guys got some questions.
In my late 30's I ran an 6wk test prop cycle 75mg eod. Had amazing results. Went from 158lbs to 178lbs then dropped down and maintained 168lbs during my 6 month break off of test. I then went for a second cycle, this time the goal was 8 weeks of test prop 150mg eod stacking 25mg dbol ed for the first 4 weeks. Everything was going great but tore my rotator 4 weeks in and so I stopped training completely. Finally wanted to get back in the gym. I was honestly scared to lift again with my shoulder but I was finally starting to pick up that middle age body fat and didn't like the way i was looking. I ordered enough prop for a 8 wk cycle stacked with dbol for 4 weeks. But I also ordered a second cycle for future use but wanted to try enanthate for that one. For no good reason I decided after 4 weeks of prop I wanted to finish my cycle out with enanthate. 250mg 2xwk.
I have pinned that amount 5 times and I have lost all appetite since stopping the prop and actually feel like I'm losing some mass as well. I was still on the dbol for the first 2 weeks of the enanthate. I literally fell like I cut off all the test. I assumed that with the test prop already being loaded in my system I wouldn't really have to wait for the enanthate to kick in. It's this normal? The brands are the same so I don't think it's a quality issue. Anyone else ever did this? What was your experience?

LevButlerov · May 16, 2025

BruceAllMighty said:
45 year old male
5'8 184lbs 17%body fat
3rd cycle

Hey guys got some questions.
In my late 30's I ran an 6wk test prop cycle 75mg eod. Had amazing results. Went from 158lbs to 178lbs then dropped down and maintained 168lbs during my 6 month break off of test. I then went for a second cycle, this time the goal was 8 weeks of test prop 150mg eod stacking 25mg dbol ed for the first 4 weeks. Everything was going great but tore my rotator 4 weeks in and so I stopped training completely. Finally wanted to get back in the gym. I was honestly scared to lift again with my shoulder but I was finally starting to pick up that middle age body fat and didn't like the way i was looking. I ordered enough prop for a 8 wk cycle stacked with dbol for 4 weeks. But I also ordered a second cycle for future use but wanted to try enanthate for that one. For no good reason I decided after 4 weeks of prop I wanted to finish my cycle out with enanthate. 250mg 2xwk.
I have pinned that amount 5 times and I have lost all appetite since stopping the prop and actually feel like I'm losing some mass as well. I was still on the dbol for the first 2 weeks of the enanthate. I literally fell like I cut off all the test. I assumed that with the test prop already being loaded in my system I wouldn't really have to wait for the enanthate to kick in. It's this normal? The brands are the same so I don't think it's a quality issue. Anyone else ever did this? What was your experience?

@BruceAllMighty welcome to the EVO family

nice username, you a fan of the movie? I thought it was good Bruce all mighty lol funny too

Your test switch is not normal, but I've had clients do the same with no issues. I'm guessing its another part of your cycle we don't understand.
To really help you with a deep issue like this, we need to know more about you, makes sense?
how?
easy! start a new thread with your cycle log journal, share your nutrition training supp use sleep and history and we can guide you as a big EVO family to help you with the switch and we can guide you the whole cycle, the log will take you 15-20min to put together.

HOW-TO LOG?

To really guide you we need more info from you.
Please share your diet, training, cardio, sleep, supplements etc log with us in a NEW thread, full log journal so our guidance is based on facts you provide.
It will take 15-20 minutes max.
We have 100s of years of experience between us, so you need to post a LOG Journal with your stats (weight,height,age, years training, cycle history) diet, training, cardio, supplement, sleep details. If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.

stevesmi · May 16, 2025

BruceAllMighty said:
45 year old male
5'8 184lbs 17%body fat
3rd cycle

Hey guys got some questions.
In my late 30's I ran an 6wk test prop cycle 75mg eod. Had amazing results. Went from 158lbs to 178lbs then dropped down and maintained 168lbs during my 6 month break off of test. I then went for a second cycle, this time the goal was 8 weeks of test prop 150mg eod stacking 25mg dbol ed for the first 4 weeks. Everything was going great but tore my rotator 4 weeks in and so I stopped training completely. Finally wanted to get back in the gym. I was honestly scared to lift again with my shoulder but I was finally starting to pick up that middle age body fat and didn't like the way i was looking. I ordered enough prop for a 8 wk cycle stacked with dbol for 4 weeks. But I also ordered a second cycle for future use but wanted to try enanthate for that one. For no good reason I decided after 4 weeks of prop I wanted to finish my cycle out with enanthate. 250mg 2xwk.
I have pinned that amount 5 times and I have lost all appetite since stopping the prop and actually feel like I'm losing some mass as well. I was still on the dbol for the first 2 weeks of the enanthate. I literally fell like I cut off all the test. I assumed that with the test prop already being loaded in my system I wouldn't really have to wait for the enanthate to kick in. It's this normal? The brands are the same so I don't think it's a quality issue. Anyone else ever did this? What was your experience?

@BruceAllMighty I like Jim Carrey but hated the movie lol. but anyway back to serious business i also tore my rotator in my mid 30's. the severity of the injury makes all the difference. did you get an MRI done and check with a good ortho? they should tell you a plan on when you can hit the gym again. keep in mind with steroids they will increase the chance of reinjury

Freki · May 16, 2025

BruceAllMighty said:
250mg 2xwk.
I have pinned that amount 5 times and I have lost all appetite since stopping the prop and actually feel like I'm losing some mass as well.

Hey Bruce, Prop has a half life of around 2 days, meaning it leaves the body very quickly. Enanthate half life is 4.5 - 8 days meaning it takes a fair while to fully saturate around 6 weeks. Your only at 2.5 weeks, all the prop is gone after 12 days and the Enanthate hasn't kicked in yet.

BodyMonster34 · May 16, 2025

BruceAllMighty said:
45 year old male
5'8 184lbs 17%body fat
3rd cycle

Hey guys got some questions.
In my late 30's I ran an 6wk test prop cycle 75mg eod. Had amazing results. Went from 158lbs to 178lbs then dropped down and maintained 168lbs during my 6 month break off of test. I then went for a second cycle, this time the goal was 8 weeks of test prop 150mg eod stacking 25mg dbol ed for the first 4 weeks. Everything was going great but tore my rotator 4 weeks in and so I stopped training completely. Finally wanted to get back in the gym. I was honestly scared to lift again with my shoulder but I was finally starting to pick up that middle age body fat and didn't like the way i was looking. I ordered enough prop for a 8 wk cycle stacked with dbol for 4 weeks. But I also ordered a second cycle for future use but wanted to try enanthate for that one. For no good reason I decided after 4 weeks of prop I wanted to finish my cycle out with enanthate. 250mg 2xwk.
I have pinned that amount 5 times and I have lost all appetite since stopping the prop and actually feel like I'm losing some mass as well. I was still on the dbol for the first 2 weeks of the enanthate. I literally fell like I cut off all the test. I assumed that with the test prop already being loaded in my system I wouldn't really have to wait for the enanthate to kick in. It's this normal? The brands are the same so I don't think it's a quality issue. Anyone else ever did this? What was your experience?

@BruceAllMighty bro i got simple solution for you.

1. get on tren now
2. get a log going

BruceAllMighty · May 16, 2025

stevesmi said:
@BruceAllMighty I like Jim Carrey but hated the movie lol. but anyway back to serious business i also tore my rotator in my mid 30's. the severity of the injury makes all the difference. did you get an MRI done and check with a good ortho? they should tell you a plan on when you can hit the gym again. keep in mind with steroids they will increase the chance of reinjury

I opted against surgery and it's been 6 years since the injury. Took 6 months before I could lift my arm up to my chest. I watched a lot of YouTube videos for rehabilitating it. And I got it back to about 95%
I do feel it when lifting heavy bb bp. Slight burning sensation and generally if I start feeling it i back off of it. I hit the gym pretty heavy for 8 weeks before starting the cycle. Only feel it when I do BP. Oh and weighed dips

BruceAllMighty · May 16, 2025

Freki said:
Hey Bruce, Prop has a half life of around 2 days, meaning it leaves the body very quickly. Enanthate half life is 4.5 - 8 days meaning it takes a fair while to fully saturate around 6 weeks. Your only at 2.5 weeks, all the prop is gone after 12 days and the Enanthate hasn't kicked in yet.

Should I add in some prop for a couple weeks until the enanthate is saturated? Or just stick with the Enanthate?

BruceAllMighty · May 16, 2025

BodyMonster34 said:
@BruceAllMighty bro i got simple solution for you.

1. get on tren now
2. get a log going

Yeah I'm new to this site so I'm learning you guys are big on logging. Going to set one up tomorrow.
I ordered Tren. Should be here next week. Never used it before. Was going to start off with 150mg 2xwk. As of now I'm doing the enanthate on Tuesday and Friday I was going to run the tren on Monday and Thursday unless someone recommends something better.

BodyMonster34 · May 16, 2025

BruceAllMighty said:
Yeah I'm new to this site so I'm learning you guys are big on logging. Going to set one up tomorrow.
I ordered Tren. Should be here next week. Never used it before. Was going to start off with 150mg 2xwk. As of now I'm doing the enanthate on Tuesday and Friday I was going to run the tren on Monday and Thursday unless someone recommends something better.

bro taht make me happy. tren is what separates the boys to the men

Freki · May 16, 2025

BruceAllMighty said:
Should I add in some prop for a couple weeks until the enanthate is saturated? Or just stick with the Enanthate?

Yes i would add it back in at lower dose

Freki · May 16, 2025

BruceAllMighty said:
Yeah I'm new to this site so I'm learning you guys are big on logging. Going to set one up tomorrow.
I ordered Tren. Should be here next week. Never used it before. Was going to start off with 150mg 2xwk. As of now I'm doing the enanthate on Tuesday and Friday I was going to run the tren on Monday and Thursday unless someone recommends something better.

I'd recommend don't do tren but hey nothing ventured nothing gained

ceo · May 16, 2025

BruceAllMighty said:
45 year old male
5'8 184lbs 17%body fat
3rd cycle

Hey guys got some questions.
In my late 30's I ran an 6wk test prop cycle 75mg eod. Had amazing results. Went from 158lbs to 178lbs then dropped down and maintained 168lbs during my 6 month break off of test. I then went for a second cycle, this time the goal was 8 weeks of test prop 150mg eod stacking 25mg dbol ed for the first 4 weeks. Everything was going great but tore my rotator 4 weeks in and so I stopped training completely. Finally wanted to get back in the gym. I was honestly scared to lift again with my shoulder but I was finally starting to pick up that middle age body fat and didn't like the way i was looking. I ordered enough prop for a 8 wk cycle stacked with dbol for 4 weeks. But I also ordered a second cycle for future use but wanted to try enanthate for that one. For no good reason I decided after 4 weeks of prop I wanted to finish my cycle out with enanthate. 250mg 2xwk.
I have pinned that amount 5 times and I have lost all appetite since stopping the prop and actually feel like I'm losing some mass as well. I was still on the dbol for the first 2 weeks of the enanthate. I literally fell like I cut off all the test. I assumed that with the test prop already being loaded in my system I wouldn't really have to wait for the enanthate to kick in. It's this normal? The brands are the same so I don't think it's a quality issue. Anyone else ever did this? What was your experience?

@BruceAllMighty bros you gotta try different things. Sometimes certain gear doesn't agree with us. You still young, that 45 years old, also lose some body fat before you hit the next cycle.

BruceAllMighty · May 16, 2025

BodyMonster34 said:
@BruceAllMighty bro i got simple solution for you.

1. get on tren now
2. get a log going

Yeah I'm new to this site so I'm learning you guys are big on logging. Going to set one up tomorrow.
I ordered Tren. Should be here next week. Never used it before. Was going to start off with 150mg 2xwk. As of now I'm doing the enanthate on Tuesday and Friday I was going to run the tren on Monday and Thursday unless someone recommends something better

ceo said:
@BruceAllMighty bros you gotta try different things. Sometimes certain gear doesn't agree with us. You still young, that 45 years old, also lose some body fat before you hit the next cycle.

ceo said:
@BruceAllMighty bros you gotta try different things. Sometimes certain gear doesn't agree with us. You still young, that 45 years old, also lose some body fat before you hit the

ceo said:
@BruceAllMighty bros you gotta try different things. Sometimes certain gear doesn't agree with us. You still young, that 45 years old, also lose some body fat before you hit the next cycle.

The goal was to actually put some on. Bulking up as much as possible. This time around

Mobster · May 17, 2025

Not AAS related but why did you stop completely. You had a good arm and 2 good legs. You're not just recovering that injured shoulder but all the lost mass. And, arguably, it mean quicker recovery of the injury too

stevesmi · May 17, 2025

BruceAllMighty said:
I opted against surgery and it's been 6 years since the injury. Took 6 months before I could lift my arm up to my chest. I watched a lot of YouTube videos for rehabilitating it. And I got it back to about 95%
I do feel it when lifting heavy bb bp. Slight burning sensation and generally if I start feeling it i back off of it. I hit the gym pretty heavy for 8 weeks before starting the cycle. Only feel it when I do BP. Oh and weighed dips

I would avoid any lift that bothers it. That’s what I’ve done. Also proper warm ups and post workout stretching is crucial

ROIDDERS · May 17, 2025

BruceAllMighty said:
45 year old male
5'8 184lbs 17%body fat
3rd cycle

Hey guys got some questions.
In my late 30's I ran an 6wk test prop cycle 75mg eod. Had amazing results. Went from 158lbs to 178lbs then dropped down and maintained 168lbs during my 6 month break off of test. I then went for a second cycle, this time the goal was 8 weeks of test prop 150mg eod stacking 25mg dbol ed for the first 4 weeks. Everything was going great but tore my rotator 4 weeks in and so I stopped training completely. Finally wanted to get back in the gym. I was honestly scared to lift again with my shoulder but I was finally starting to pick up that middle age body fat and didn't like the way i was looking. I ordered enough prop for a 8 wk cycle stacked with dbol for 4 weeks. But I also ordered a second cycle for future use but wanted to try enanthate for that one. For no good reason I decided after 4 weeks of prop I wanted to finish my cycle out with enanthate. 250mg 2xwk.
I have pinned that amount 5 times and I have lost all appetite since stopping the prop and actually feel like I'm losing some mass as well. I was still on the dbol for the first 2 weeks of the enanthate. I literally fell like I cut off all the test. I assumed that with the test prop already being loaded in my system I wouldn't really have to wait for the enanthate to kick in. It's this normal? The brands are the same so I don't think it's a quality issue. Anyone else ever did this? What was your experience?

@BruceAllMighty looking Forward to your next log. I think you have a good base to work with, maybe get some pictures up and we can give you an accurate body Fat number.

BodyMonster34 · May 17, 2025

BruceAllMighty said:
Yeah I'm new to this site so I'm learning you guys are big on logging. Going to set one up tomorrow.
I ordered Tren. Should be here next week. Never used it before. Was going to start off with 150mg 2xwk. As of now I'm doing the enanthate on Tuesday and Friday I was going to run the tren on Monday and Thursday unless someone recommends something better

The goal was to actually put some on. Bulking up as much as possible. This time around

bro real men use tren. that a fact

Ulter · May 17, 2025

BruceAllMighty said:
45 year old male
5'8 184lbs 17%body fat
3rd cycle

Hey guys got some questions.
In my late 30's I ran an 6wk test prop cycle 75mg eod. Had amazing results. Went from 158lbs to 178lbs then dropped down and maintained 168lbs during my 6 month break off of test. I then went for a second cycle, this time the goal was 8 weeks of test prop 150mg eod stacking 25mg dbol ed for the first 4 weeks. Everything was going great but tore my rotator 4 weeks in and so I stopped training completely. Finally wanted to get back in the gym. I was honestly scared to lift again with my shoulder but I was finally starting to pick up that middle age body fat and didn't like the way i was looking. I ordered enough prop for a 8 wk cycle stacked with dbol for 4 weeks. But I also ordered a second cycle for future use but wanted to try enanthate for that one. For no good reason I decided after 4 weeks of prop I wanted to finish my cycle out with enanthate. 250mg 2xwk.
I have pinned that amount 5 times and I have lost all appetite since stopping the prop and actually feel like I'm losing some mass as well. I was still on the dbol for the first 2 weeks of the enanthate. I literally fell like I cut off all the test. I assumed that with the test prop already being loaded in my system I wouldn't really have to wait for the enanthate to kick in. It's this normal? The brands are the same so I don't think it's a quality issue. Anyone else ever did this? What was your experience?

@BruceAllMighty you need to make sure you don't cause more damage to your shoulder. i would avoid overhead lifting or pulling. i would also recommend you are improving your mobility as you improve rapidly as that will cause more issues

2Thick · May 17, 2025

BruceAllMighty said:
45 year old male
5'8 184lbs 17%body fat
3rd cycle

Hey guys got some questions.
In my late 30's I ran an 6wk test prop cycle 75mg eod. Had amazing results. Went from 158lbs to 178lbs then dropped down and maintained 168lbs during my 6 month break off of test. I then went for a second cycle, this time the goal was 8 weeks of test prop 150mg eod stacking 25mg dbol ed for the first 4 weeks. Everything was going great but tore my rotator 4 weeks in and so I stopped training completely. Finally wanted to get back in the gym. I was honestly scared to lift again with my shoulder but I was finally starting to pick up that middle age body fat and didn't like the way i was looking. I ordered enough prop for a 8 wk cycle stacked with dbol for 4 weeks. But I also ordered a second cycle for future use but wanted to try enanthate for that one. For no good reason I decided after 4 weeks of prop I wanted to finish my cycle out with enanthate. 250mg 2xwk.
I have pinned that amount 5 times and I have lost all appetite since stopping the prop and actually feel like I'm losing some mass as well. I was still on the dbol for the first 2 weeks of the enanthate. I literally fell like I cut off all the test. I assumed that with the test prop already being loaded in my system I wouldn't really have to wait for the enanthate to kick in. It's this normal? The brands are the same so I don't think it's a quality issue. Anyone else ever did this? What was your experience?

@BruceAllMighty

i think the best thing you can do is put up a log. that will be the best thing for you to do.

this way we can keep track of how your shoulder does. you want to avoid anything that can stress it

ceo · May 17, 2025

BruceAllMighty said:
Yeah I'm new to this site so I'm learning you guys are big on logging. Going to set one up tomorrow.
I ordered Tren. Should be here next week. Never used it before. Was going to start off with 150mg 2xwk. As of now I'm doing the enanthate on Tuesday and Friday I was going to run the tren on Monday and Thursday unless someone recommends something better

The goal was to actually put some on. Bulking up as much as possible. This time around

@BruceAllMighty bros check out other logs too. lots of bulk ideas

BruceAllMighty · May 18, 2025

Mobster said:
Not AAS related but why did you stop completely. You had a good arm and 2 good legs. You're not just recovering that injured shoulder but all the lost mass. And, arguably, it mean quicker recovery of the injury too

Probably from the disappointment but i had a lot of other things I was dealing with also. 2 kids in private school and one in college at that time and I had just bought my business plus covid hit immediately after I bought it. A whole lot of stress. Literally closed the deal on the business in November and the entire world shut down in January.

Noah Wixx · May 18, 2025

stevesmi said:
@BruceAllMighty I like Jim Carrey but hated the movie lol. but anyway back to serious business i also tore my rotator in my mid 30's. the severity of the injury makes all the difference. did you get an MRI done and check with a good ortho? they should tell you a plan on when you can hit the gym again. keep in mind with steroids they will increase the chance of reinjury

Movie goes hard

yeah shoulder injury no joke definitely take all the precautions, i had surgery and that was hell for a veey long time.

LevButlerov · May 18, 2025

BruceAllMighty said:
Yeah I'm new to this site so I'm learning you guys are big on logging. Going to set one up tomorrow.
I ordered Tren. Should be here next week. Never used it before. Was going to start off with 150mg 2xwk. As of now I'm doing the enanthate on Tuesday and Friday I was going to run the tren on Monday and Thursday unless someone recommends something bette

@BruceAllMighty waiting for you to start your log, its tomorrow now

directions below
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/mid-cycle-test-switch.104735/post-1750457

LevButlerov said:
@BruceAllMighty welcome to the EVO family nice username, you a fan of the movie? I thought it was good Bruce all mighty lol funny too

Your test switch is not normal, but I've had clients do the same with no issues. I'm guessing its another part of your cycle we don't understand.
To really help you with a deep issue like this, we need to know more about you, makes sense?
how?
easy! start a new thread with your cycle log journal, share your nutrition training supp use sleep and history and we can guide you as a big EVO family to help you with the switch and we can guide you the whole cycle, the log will take you 15-20min to put together.

HOW-TO LOG?

To really guide you we need more info from you.

Please share your diet, training, cardio, sleep, supplements etc log with us in a NEW thread, full log journal so our guidance is based on facts you provide.

It will take 15-20 minutes max.

We have 100s of years of experience between us, so you need to post a LOG Journal with your stats (weight,height,age, years training, cycle history) diet, training, cardio, supplement, sleep details. If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.

Please post a Log Journal asap for us

Please click the anabolic forum
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/forums/anabolic-steroids-and-peds.2/
top RIGHT, you see: +POST THREAD
click that

in Title: write your cycle name, like> My _____ Cycle Log
___ = the name of your log
example: My testosterone cycle Log
in body: write your planned cycle or cycle you doing now, your diet, training and we will help you along on your cycle

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LevButlerov · May 18, 2025

stevesmi said:
@BruceAllMighty I like Jim Carrey but hated the movie lol. but anyway back to serious business i also tore my rotator in my mid 30's. the severity of the injury makes all the difference. did you get an MRI done and check with a good ortho? they should tell you a plan on when you can hit the gym again. keep in mind with steroids they will increase the chance of reinjury

Dont hate on jim carrey lol

stevesmi · May 18, 2025

Noah Wixx said:
Movie goes hard yeah shoulder injury no joke definitely take all the precautions, i had surgery and that was hell for a veey long time.

yeah noah talks about this on one of the podcasts he came on !

Noah Wixx · May 18, 2025

stevesmi said:
yeah noah talks about this on one of the podcasts he came on !

Yes, never again will i learn the hard way just not worth it

BruceAllMighty · May 19, 2025

LevButlerov said:
@BruceAllMighty waiting for you to start your log, its tomorrow now

directions below
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/mid-cycle-test-switch.104735/post-1750457

I'm in Saint Louis Missouri. We were hit with a pretty serious tornado

ballin2504 · May 19, 2025

BruceAllMighty said:
Yeah I'm new to this site so I'm learning you guys are big on logging. Going to set one up tomorrow.
I ordered Tren. Should be here next week. Never used it before. Was going to start off with 150mg 2xwk. As of now I'm doing the enanthate on Tuesday and Friday I was going to run the tren on Monday and Thursday unless someone recommends something better.

@BruceAllMighty tren absolutely kills my appetite

Tiger Salman Khan · May 19, 2025

BruceAllMighty said:
I'm in Saint Louis Missouri. We were hit with a pretty serious tornado

@BruceAllMighty hope everything is fine bro.....

LevButlerov · May 19, 2025

BruceAllMighty said:
I'm in Saint Louis Missouri. We were hit with a pretty serious tornado

Sorry about the Tornado, but you're online now you can start typing the log on your phone

dont drag it out, get something up so we can guide you. @BruceAllMighty

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