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JSTKK said:
Hi, I am new to this group. Question. Are Primo pills as effective as injections? I don't know how to do IM injections. I do 270mg test sub Q. I would like to add the primo to try. Are these sources legit? tia
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welcome to the EVO family :D @JSTKK primobolan pills are primobolan acetate, harsh on the liver.
The issue is primo pills likely NOT legit these days, mostly are faked with winstrol
where do you get your TRT from? and how long have you been on it?

@HarleyGuy @Allupfromhere @Dreamer @Kopite67 @codezz @Yuri
@Grumpy @Shakey @Eveflorence @LH5515
 
LevButlerov said:
welcome to the EVO family :D @JSTKK primobolan pills are primobolan acetate, harsh on the liver.
The issue is primo pills likely NOT legit these days, mostly are faked with winstrol
where do you get your TRT from? and how long have you been on it?

@HarleyGuy @Allupfromhere @Dreamer @Kopite67 @codezz @Yuri
@Grumpy @Shakey @Eveflorence @LH5515
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I am going through a urologist here close to home. I have been on it for about 4 years. I am also on tirz. I have lost about 80 lbs of fat and now I would like to try to put on some quality muscle. I talked to a guy over at kits for less and the little bit that I know I learned from him. Mixed bag of reviews on kfl. Still kind of wandering around.I would relly like to try but I don't teally know what I am doing. I would like not to kms. lol
 
you should be fine on your Test dose to add muscle why do you need the primo? And oral primo is a terrible idea.
You could just try and up the test dose.
SubQ inj i find more uncomfortable than IM
 
rizzlekdizzle said:
you should be fine on your Test dose to add muscle why do you need the primo? And oral primo is a terrible idea.
You could just try and up the test dose.
SubQ inj i find more uncomfortable than IM
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I upped it a little to 300 mg a week and as far as the injection goes its not bad. I figured maybe a bit more would help give the physique I want.
I was told it was not as harsh as most, so thinking about trying. I will be 54 this year and dont have much time left for a badass physique.
 
JSTKK said:
So I would not have to take extra anastrozole on this? Correct? But I would have to take a liver support?
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No ai required primo acts as a e2 inhibitor
Liver support not essential but definitely wont hurt the injectable is no where near as harsh on the liver
 
JSTKK said:
I am going through a urologist here close to home. I have been on it for about 4 years. I am also on tirz. I have lost about 80 lbs of fat and now I would like to try to put on some quality muscle. I talked to a guy over at kits for less and the little bit that I know I learned from him. Mixed bag of reviews on kfl. Still kind of wandering around.I would relly like to try but I don't teally know what I am doing. I would like not to kms. lol
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Hi @JSTKK, I am not going to dissuade you from exploring and experimenting, but I would like to point out that at 270mg of testosterone per week, you shoooooouuuuuuld be able to get a damn good physique in a reasonably healthy way. I have rarely taken more than that, and when I did I was training at my maximum output and eating like a bear. It’s my perspective that those two things are what will get you what you want, but that it’s hard or sometimes impossible to do without hormonal support. So you take what you need to make progress in the gym, and you eat and rest to fuel and recover the training. I think this way of thinking will get you far.
 
JSTKK said:
Hi, I am new to this group. Question. Are Primo pills as effective as injections? I don't know how to do IM injections. I do 270mg test sub Q. I would like to add the primo to try. Are these sources legit? tia
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JSTKK said:
I am going through a urologist here close to home. I have been on it for about 4 years. I am also on tirz. I have lost about 80 lbs of fat and now I would like to try to put on some quality muscle. I talked to a guy over at kits for less and the little bit that I know I learned from him. Mixed bag of reviews on kfl. Still kind of wandering around.I would relly like to try but I don't teally know what I am doing. I would like not to kms. lol
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Congratulations on the fat loss :D @JSTKK amazing results!
Before adding anything you need to start a proper TRT log because we don’t know your labs, bodyweight trend, calories, training, sleep, BP, or how you’re responding on 270mg test subq right now.
Primo oral is not the same as injectable and most Primo pills are either underdosed or not Primo, so don’t jump into that without bloodwork and a log.

Get a log up now with your TRT dose and schedule, full recent labs, ed food and macros, training plan, sleep, BP, and weekly bodyweight so the EVO family can help you and guide you :D 15min of your time to change your life!

HOW-TO LOG?

Why is a Log Journal important?
  • Doing a log will actually help you way more than just dropping random updates. When you lay it all out week by week you start to see patterns in your body that you won’t catch otherwise.
  • Other guys here run logs all the time and there’s no privacy issue, nobody is asking for your name or anything personal, it is just training, diet, and how the compound feels.
  • The feedback you get is also way better because people can follow along and spot things you might miss. It also helps the next guy who is thinking about running the same compound so you are giving back while you learn.
  • Even if you think you might not stick with it, just starting the log makes it easier to come back and add quick notes. That way you get more out of what you are running instead of keeping it all in your head.

To really guide you we need more info from you:
  • Please share your diet, training, cardio, sleep, supplements etc log with us in a NEW thread, full log journal so our guidance is based on facts you provide.
  • It will take 15-20 minutes max.
  • We have 100s of years of experience between us, so you need to post a LOG Journal with your stats (weight,height,age, years training, cycle history) diet, training, cardio, supplement, sleep details. If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.
  • Please post a Log Journal asap for us

Please click the anabolic forum
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/forums/anabolic-steroids-and-peds.2/
top RIGHT, you see: +POST THREAD
click that

in Title: write your cycle name, like> My _____ Cycle Log
___ = the name of your log
example: My TRT training Log
in body: write your planned cycle or cycle you doing now, your diet, training and we will help you along on your cycle

here are examples of LOG Journals
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/first-testosterone-cycle-log.104133/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/sustanon-trenomast-deca-dbol-cycle-journal.105881/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-2025-26-growth-phase-log-with-psl.106514/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...var-bpc157-beligas-pharmaqo-cycle-log.104843/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...g-log-sponsored-by-purity-source-labs.103669/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...erone-cycle-and-beginner-training-log.106310/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/average-trt-back-to-savage-cycle-journal.106252
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...-testosterone-masteron-primobolan-deca.105348
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...odybuilding-log-masters-55-competitor.102611/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...ron-npp-tren-anadrol-log-to-stage-2025.102590

P.S. are you listening to our podcast? if not, you should; this podcast is about steroids, sarms, peptides, and bodybuilding:
https://www.evolutionary.org/podcasts/
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/evolutionary-bodybuilding-radio/id1798623410
https://open.spotify.com/show/53q1RFTgG4h6TQHsJ4xY6Z
 
toddthelineman said:
Hi @JSTKK, I am not going to dissuade you from exploring and experimenting, but I would like to point out that at 270mg of testosterone per week, you shoooooouuuuuuld be able to get a damn good physique in a reasonably healthy way. I have rarely taken more than that, and when I did I was training at my maximum output and eating like a bear. It’s my perspective that those two things are what will get you what you want, but that it’s hard or sometimes impossible to do without hormonal support. So you take what you need to make progress in the gym, and you eat and rest to fuel and recover the training. I think this way of thinking will get you far.
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Being on the tirz it's really hard for me to eat enough to put on size. I have hit the gym off and on through out my life for about 15 to 20 years. I have not put on alot of size. I am a slow grower. I have been experimenting with peptides over the last year or so with slow results. I am to the point in my life where I am getting impatient
 
JSTKK said:
Being on the tirz it's really hard for me to eat enough to put on size. I have hit the gym off and on through out my life for about 15 to 20 years. I have not put on alot of size. I am a slow grower. I have been experimenting with peptides over the last year or so with slow results. I am to the point in my life where I am getting impatient
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That’s understandable. It’s very hard for me to put on weight too. Check my first log and how I ate. I gained one whole pound hahaha. I did get very lean at the same time though
 
JSTKK said:
Hi, I am new to this group. Question. Are Primo pills as effective as injections? I don't know how to do IM injections. I do 270mg test sub Q. I would like to add the primo to try. Are these sources legit? tia
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if you're gonna use Primo, definitely use the injectable. There's really no need to use the oral version. There's a reason why sources a lot of times don't even carry it; there's just no demand.
 
300mg of Test is enough to build a good physique 0 maybe you just need to dial in training and food?
Primo is known for PIP though - just remember that.
Get a log going - post up some photo's - we can help more from there.
If you still have a fair amount of BF primo may be a waste of time - and adding something like Reta to your TRT could make a big diff - and that is definitely a SubQ injection.
 
JSTKK said:
Hi, I am new to this group. Question. Are Primo pills as effective as injections? I don't know how to do IM injections. I do 270mg test sub Q. I would like to add the primo to try. Are these sources legit? tia
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Bros, I never tried the oral primo. You can definitely try it though, not bad.
 
JSTKK said:
Hi, I am new to this group. Question. Are Primo pills as effective as injections? I don't know how to do IM injections. I do 270mg test sub Q. I would like to add the primo to try. Are these sources legit? tia
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Never use Primo in a pill either. You don't see too many people using it. In fact I don't think a single person is logging it on here but you can definitely try it.
 
JSTKK said:
Hi, I am new to this group. Question. Are Primo pills as effective as injections? I don't know how to do IM injections. I do 270mg test sub Q. I would like to add the primo to try. Are these sources legit? tia
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Any source off EVO is legit. Just make sure and get your compound off of EVO to stay safe. 🛑https://kits4less.com/🛑 is not approved or trusted by EVO and is suspect so I can't recommend it.

If you have to use Primo you should go IM injection; don't bother with any orals at your age and with your stated and implied goals. You can use a 27g 1" needle and likely not even feel a thing, you'll likely feel more subQ than you would IM in your delt. If you do go subQ primo then don't inject in large ml quantities and do it separately. There is a site injection guide you can look at here for any IM site you'd like to use ➡️ https://trtinjections.com/

I noticed you mentioned liver health and an AI, you can use N2Guard for liver support. I use it all year round and myself and others have posted bloodwork showing it is very effective. You can order it here ➡️ https://www.needtobuildmuscle.com/cycle-support/n2guard/

Finally, thanks for popping into EVO and checking with us about this and welcome! If you were to start a log here you'd have your own place to get guidance and ask all the questions you want with free coaching in any topic you'd like. I too am almost 50 and learn something new on here every day!
 
JSTKK said:
ok. awesome. Thank you.
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You're not in Australia right? @JSTKK these are Australia domestic ONLY @Grumpy gave you, they are not allowed to ship to USA

you're looking for USA domestic gear which is wither Domestic-suppy.com or US-Pharmacies.net
https://us-pharmacies.net/
https://domestic-supply.com/

Team USP! is here you can see their logs too and promo thread here
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...ews-feedback-and-us-domestic-shipping.109549/


@trenAMP @Nood @RawCutlery @liftedlivingwithlegacy @eazy_
@BigVelvetG @floridaman1984 @Noah Wixx @MarkNV @US-pharmacies
 
LevButlerov said:
You're not in Australia right? @JSTKK these are Australia domestic ONLY @Grumpy gave you, they are not allowed to ship to USA

you're looking for USA domestic gear which is wither Domestic-suppy.com or US-Pharmacies.net
https://us-pharmacies.net/
https://domestic-supply.com/

Team USP! is here you can see their logs too and promo thread here
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...ews-feedback-and-us-domestic-shipping.109549/


@trenAMP @Nood @RawCutlery @liftedlivingwithlegacy @eazy_
@BigVelvetG @floridaman1984 @Noah Wixx @MarkNV @US-pharmacies
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Thank you sir!!
 
LevButlerov said:
You're not in Australia right? @JSTKK these are Australia domestic ONLY @Grumpy gave you, they are not allowed to ship to USA

you're looking for USA domestic gear which is wither Domestic-suppy.com or US-Pharmacies.net
https://us-pharmacies.net/
https://domestic-supply.com/

Team USP! is here you can see their logs too and promo thread here
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...ews-feedback-and-us-domestic-shipping.109549/


@trenAMP @Nood @RawCutlery @liftedlivingwithlegacy @eazy_
@BigVelvetG @floridaman1984 @Noah Wixx @MarkNV @US-pharmacies
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I was working on my log journal and i ended up closing the wrong tab. I have to start all over. lol
 
LevButlerov said:
You're not in Australia right? @JSTKK these are Australia domestic ONLY @Grumpy gave you, they are not allowed to ship to USA

you're looking for USA domestic gear which is wither Domestic-suppy.com or US-Pharmacies.net
https://us-pharmacies.net/
https://domestic-supply.com/

Team USP! is here you can see their logs too and promo thread here
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...ews-feedback-and-us-domestic-shipping.109549/


@trenAMP @Nood @RawCutlery @liftedlivingwithlegacy @eazy_
@BigVelvetG @floridaman1984 @Noah Wixx @MarkNV @US-pharmacies
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Opps i was under the assumption he was in Australia sorry about that
 
LevButlerov said:
Congratulations on the fat loss :D @JSTKK amazing results!
Before adding anything you need to start a proper TRT log because we don’t know your labs, bodyweight trend, calories, training, sleep, BP, or how you’re responding on 270mg test subq right now.
Primo oral is not the same as injectable and most Primo pills are either underdosed or not Primo, so don’t jump into that without bloodwork and a log.

Get a log up now with your TRT dose and schedule, full recent labs, ed food and macros, training plan, sleep, BP, and weekly bodyweight so the EVO family can help you and guide you :D 15min of your time to change your life!

HOW-TO LOG?

Why is a Log Journal important?
  • Doing a log will actually help you way more than just dropping random updates. When you lay it all out week by week you start to see patterns in your body that you won’t catch otherwise.
  • Other guys here run logs all the time and there’s no privacy issue, nobody is asking for your name or anything personal, it is just training, diet, and how the compound feels.
  • The feedback you get is also way better because people can follow along and spot things you might miss. It also helps the next guy who is thinking about running the same compound so you are giving back while you learn.
  • Even if you think you might not stick with it, just starting the log makes it easier to come back and add quick notes. That way you get more out of what you are running instead of keeping it all in your head.

To really guide you we need more info from you:
  • Please share your diet, training, cardio, sleep, supplements etc log with us in a NEW thread, full log journal so our guidance is based on facts you provide.
  • It will take 15-20 minutes max.
  • We have 100s of years of experience between us, so you need to post a LOG Journal with your stats (weight,height,age, years training, cycle history) diet, training, cardio, supplement, sleep details. If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.
  • Please post a Log Journal asap for us

Please click the anabolic forum
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/forums/anabolic-steroids-and-peds.2/
top RIGHT, you see: +POST THREAD
click that

in Title: write your cycle name, like> My _____ Cycle Log
___ = the name of your log
example: My TRT training Log
in body: write your planned cycle or cycle you doing now, your diet, training and we will help you along on your cycle

here are examples of LOG Journals
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/first-testosterone-cycle-log.104133/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/sustanon-trenomast-deca-dbol-cycle-journal.105881/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-2025-26-growth-phase-log-with-psl.106514/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...var-bpc157-beligas-pharmaqo-cycle-log.104843/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...g-log-sponsored-by-purity-source-labs.103669/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...erone-cycle-and-beginner-training-log.106310/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/average-trt-back-to-savage-cycle-journal.106252
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...-testosterone-masteron-primobolan-deca.105348
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...odybuilding-log-masters-55-competitor.102611/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...ron-npp-tren-anadrol-log-to-stage-2025.102590

P.S. are you listening to our podcast? if not, you should; this podcast is about steroids, sarms, peptides, and bodybuilding:
https://www.evolutionary.org/podcasts/
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/evolutionary-bodybuilding-radio/id1798623410
https://open.spotify.com/show/53q1RFTgG4h6TQHsJ4xY6Z
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I made my journal
 
JSTKK said:
Hi, I am new to this group. Question. Are Primo pills as effective as injections? I don't know how to do IM injections. I do 270mg test sub Q. I would like to add the primo to try. Are these sources legit? tia
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at the end of the day your mileage will vary. A lot of people have used injectable primo with great results. You might want to go down that route. I'm not a big fan of oral primo; it's very weak.
 
JSTKK said:
Hi, I am new to this group. Question. Are Primo pills as effective as injections? I don't know how to do IM injections. I do 270mg test sub Q. I would like to add the primo to try. Are these sources legit? tia
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It's not complicated. Plus there are YouTube videos
 
JSTKK said:
Thank you sir!!
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@JSTKK morning brother!! I just started ysing @US-pharmacies and I have to tell you, ordering is easy, takes about two days to confirm payment, a day in processing and he uses priority mail, so it is fast.
The gear is clean, no pip, and is just straight up legit
Give @US-pharmacies a try bro
 
JSTKK said:
Hi, I am new to this group. Question. Are Primo pills as effective as injections? I don't know how to do IM injections. I do 270mg test sub Q. I would like to add the primo to try. Are these sources legit? tia
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I wouldn't waste my time with oral primo. It's one of the least effective orals out there in my opinion.
 
LevButlerov said:
You're not in Australia right? @JSTKK these are Australia domestic ONLY @Grumpy gave you, they are not allowed to ship to USA

you're looking for USA domestic gear which is wither Domestic-suppy.com or US-Pharmacies.net
https://us-pharmacies.net/
https://domestic-supply.com/

Team USP! is here you can see their logs too and promo thread here
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...ews-feedback-and-us-domestic-shipping.109549/


@trenAMP @Nood @RawCutlery @liftedlivingwithlegacy @eazy_
@BigVelvetG @floridaman1984 @Noah Wixx @MarkNV @US-pharmacies
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Thanks @LevButlerov , And I invite you to check out our full offer—our shipping is faster than Amazon ;)
 
@JSTKK you’re well built! Still gonna try the primo tablets? I think they are marketed for women. My experience with primo is that I literally could not tell I took it at all, ever, except I didn’t have e2 issues anymore. I think you have to use a lot, with a lot of test, to get the real affect from it. And that could be cool but would get expensive, and it dries up so you really need to get as much as you need ahead of time.

Also, if you get high concentration primo, it hurts like hell! I didn’t know and I missed work and literally went to the doctor hahaha. I couldn’t walk right or sit in my truck long enough for my commute. It’s funny now. Even 100mg/ml hurts. Couldn’t imagine using 3,4,500 mg a week. You’d be sore all over.
I’m trying eq next
 
JSTKK said:
I was working on my log journal and i ended up closing the wrong tab. I have to start all over. lol
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toddthelineman said:
@JSTKK you’re well built! Still gonna try the primo tablets? I think they are marketed for women. My experience with primo is that I literally could not tell I took it at all, ever, except I didn’t have e2 issues anymore. I think you have to use a lot, with a lot of test, to get the real affect from it. And that could be cool but would get expensive, and it dries up so you really need to get as much as you need ahead of time.

Also, if you get high concentration primo, it hurts like hell! I didn’t know and I missed work and literally went to the doctor hahaha. I couldn’t walk right or sit in my truck long enough for my commute. It’s funny now. Even 100mg/ml hurts. Couldn’t imagine using 3,4,500 mg a week. You’d be sore all over.
I’m trying eq next
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Thats good to know. Thanks
 
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