Approved Log Testosterone only first Cycle Log

[Sharkie]

Been lurking for a while on here - amazing source of information.
First post and looking for advice on a first cycle.
43yo / 15%bf, 80kg, been training consistently for about 10yrs.
Started TRT @ 125mg/week in 2025.
Bloods are fine on current dose. T within range but upper end. Body comp the same as pre TRT but energy and motivation much improved.

Planning to commence 250-300mg test e only cycle (12wks) to understand how my body reacts to the increased dose before adding orals or anything else on for a cycle later in the year/next year.

I realise this is a very low dose but will still have ai on hand. I’m not as young as I was and hence not wanting to jump straight on a high dose immediately.

Is this a wise approach? If not, how would you approach a first cycle at my age with the goal of simply adding size.
Thanks in advance.

 

[LevButlerov]

Been lurking for a while on here - amazing source of information.
First post and looking for advice on a first cycle.
43yo / 15%bf, 80kg, been training consistently for about 10yrs.
Started TRT @ 125mg/week in 2025.
Bloods are fine on current dose. T within range but upper end. Body comp the same as pre TRT but energy and motivation much improved.

Planning to commence 250-300mg test e only cycle (12wks) to understand how my body reacts to the increased dose before adding orals or anything else on for a cycle later in the year/next year.

I realise this is a very low dose but will still have ai on hand. I’m not as young as I was and hence not wanting to jump straight on a high dose immediately.

Is this a wise approach? If not, how would you approach a first cycle at my age with the goal of simply adding size.
Thanks in advance.

welcome to the EVO family @Sharkie
We don’t know enough about you to guide this yet because we haven’t seen your training volume, calories, sleep, recovery, or how you are responding day to day on 125 mg TRT.
Before changing doses you need to post a proper TRT log ASAP with daily food, bodyweight, training loads, sleep, and sides so the EVO family can actually help instead of guessing. 15min of your time to start it

HOW-TO LOG?

Why is a Log Journal important?

• Doing a log will actually help you way more than just dropping random updates. When you lay it all out week by week you start to see patterns in your body that you won’t catch otherwise.
• Other guys here run logs all the time and there’s no privacy issue, nobody is asking for your name or anything personal, it is just training, diet, and how the compound feels.
• The feedback you get is also way better because people can follow along and spot things you might miss. It also helps the next guy who is thinking about running the same compound so you are giving back while you learn.
• Even if you think you might not stick with it, just starting the log makes it easier to come back and add quick notes. That way you get more out of what you are running instead of keeping it all in your head.

To really guide you we need more info from you:

• Please share your diet, training, cardio, sleep, supplements etc log with us in a NEW thread, full log journal so our guidance is based on facts you provide.
• It will take 15-20 minutes max.
• We have 100s of years of experience between us, so you need to post a LOG Journal with your stats (weight,height,age, years training, cycle history) diet, training, cardio, supplement, sleep details. If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.
• Please post a Log Journal asap for us

Please click the anabolic forum
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/forums/anabolic-steroids-and-peds.2/
top RIGHT, you see: +POST THREAD
click that

in Title: write your cycle name, like> My _____ Cycle Log
___ = the name of your log
example: My TRT training cycle Log
in body: write your planned cycle or cycle you doing now, your diet, training and we will help you along on your cycle

here are examples of LOG Journals
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/first-testosterone-cycle-log.104133/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/sustanon-trenomast-deca-dbol-cycle-journal.105881/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-2025-26-growth-phase-log-with-psl.106514/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...var-bpc157-beligas-pharmaqo-cycle-log.104843/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...g-log-sponsored-by-purity-source-labs.103669/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...erone-cycle-and-beginner-training-log.106310/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/average-trt-back-to-savage-cycle-journal.106252
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...-testosterone-masteron-primobolan-deca.105348
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...odybuilding-log-masters-55-competitor.102611/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...ron-npp-tren-anadrol-log-to-stage-2025.102590

P.S. are you listening to our podcast? if not, you should; this podcast is about steroids, sarms, peptides, and bodybuilding:
https://www.evolutionary.org/podcasts/
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/evolutionary-bodybuilding-radio/id1798623410
https://open.spotify.com/show/53q1RFTgG4h6TQHsJ4xY6Z

P.P.S. download our eBooks and learn more:
https://irongorillas.com

 

[rizzlekdizzle]

Been lurking for a while on here - amazing source of information.
First post and looking for advice on a first cycle.
43yo / 15%bf, 80kg, been training consistently for about 10yrs.
Started TRT @ 125mg/week in 2025.
Bloods are fine on current dose. T within range but upper end. Body comp the same as pre TRT but energy and motivation much improved.

Planning to commence 250-300mg test e only cycle (12wks) to understand how my body reacts to the increased dose before adding orals or anything else on for a cycle later in the year/next year.

I realise this is a very low dose but will still have ai on hand. I’m not as young as I was and hence not wanting to jump straight on a high dose immediately.

Is this a wise approach? If not, how would you approach a first cycle at my age with the goal of simply adding size.
Thanks in advance.

dose wise I think this is smart - 300mg/week is a great first cycle. You should see good results.

 

[Allupfromhere]

Is this a wise approach? If not, how would you approach a first cycle at my age with the goal of simply adding size.
Thanks in advance.

Firstly welcome brother

Is this a wise approach? All depends on what everything else looks like?

Nutrition
Training
Recovery
Bloodwork.
Insulin sensitivity.

From there you can break down each of those categories further and more accurately.

If your simply looking to put on "size" and not caring to much what its made up for just eat more..

If your wanting to put on quality muscle.
The process runs much deeping then simply pinning more gear.

Give us some accurate details of the other areas first. Throw up a picture of your physique and blurr your face for privacy and lets go from there brother

 

[stevesmi]

Been lurking for a while on here - amazing source of information.
First post and looking for advice on a first cycle.
43yo / 15%bf, 80kg, been training consistently for about 10yrs.
Started TRT @ 125mg/week in 2025.
Bloods are fine on current dose. T within range but upper end. Body comp the same as pre TRT but energy and motivation much improved.

Planning to commence 250-300mg test e only cycle (12wks) to understand how my body reacts to the increased dose before adding orals or anything else on for a cycle later in the year/next year.

I realise this is a very low dose but will still have ai on hand. I’m not as young as I was and hence not wanting to jump straight on a high dose immediately.

Is this a wise approach? If not, how would you approach a first cycle at my age with the goal of simply adding size.
Thanks in advance.

You can certainly run it like that, sure. Just make sure you cycle off of it after the 12 weeks and go back to your regular TRT dose and watch the estrogen.

 

[Sharkie]

Firstly welcome brother

Is this a wise approach? All depends on what everything else looks like?

Nutrition
Training
Recovery
Bloodwork.
Insulin sensitivity.

From there you can break down each of those categories further and more accurately.

If your simply looking to put on "size" and not caring to much what its made up for just eat more..

If your wanting to put on quality muscle.
The process runs much deeping then simply pinning more gear.

Give us some accurate details of the other areas first. Throw up a picture of your physique and blurr your face for privacy and lets go from there brother

Of course man… more than happy to share more.

Nutrition is as follows -

Standard training day - 2800 Cal P: 220 / C: 300 / F: 70
Heavy (legs) - 3200 Cal P: 220 / C: 420 / F: 80
Rest - 2000 Cal P: 200 / C: 100 / F: 90

Training - 5 days per week
Day 1: Legs
Day 2: Chest/back
Rest
Day 4: Legs
Day 5: Chest/Back
Day 6: Shoulders arms
Rest

progressive overload principles though mostly focused on compound lifts (due to training in a home gym. Squats, deads, bench, rows + dumbbell / cable accessory work. Have progressed relatively well over the years though hit a plateau over the last 3 years.
My current composition has been consistent for 3-4 years now - I’ve changed workout programming and seen marginal changes

Recovery -
Generally quite good - but always slower recovery from heavy leg sessions though never impacts my lifts

Bloodwork -
I’m due to get my next set of bloods next week as par of the ongoing TRT so will upload then though last bloodwork was ok. Bee on TRT for about 6months. Free test and total test in range but upper levels, Cholesterol very low and AST ALT levels marginally above.

I’m keen for lean muscle gains. I was 66kg when i started lifting, skin and bones and have notice progress halting over the past few years. I notice dialing up cals from where i am leads to increase in BF (and strength) but no increase in lean mass. Does this help?

 

[Mobster]

Been lurking for a while on here - amazing source of information.
First post and looking for advice on a first cycle.
43yo / 15%bf, 80kg, been training consistently for about 10yrs.
Started TRT @ 125mg/week in 2025.
Bloods are fine on current dose. T within range but upper end. Body comp the same as pre TRT but energy and motivation much improved.

Planning to commence 250-300mg test e only cycle (12wks) to understand how my body reacts to the increased dose before adding orals or anything else on for a cycle later in the year/next year.

I realise this is a very low dose but will still have ai on hand. I’m not as young as I was and hence not wanting to jump straight on a high dose immediately.

Is this a wise approach? If not, how would you approach a first cycle at my age with the goal of simply adding size.
Thanks in advance.

Post those bloods up

 

[ceo]

Of course man… more than happy to share more.

Nutrition is as follows -

Standard training day - 2800 Cal P: 220 / C: 300 / F: 70
Heavy (legs) - 3200 Cal P: 220 / C: 420 / F: 80
Rest - 2000 Cal P: 200 / C: 100 / F: 90

Training - 5 days per week
Day 1: Legs
Day 2: Chest/back
Rest
Day 4: Legs
Day 5: Chest/Back
Day 6: Shoulders arms
Rest

progressive overload principles though mostly focused on compound lifts (due to training in a home gym. Squats, deads, bench, rows + dumbbell / cable accessory work. Have progressed relatively well over the years though hit a plateau over the last 3 years.
My current composition has been consistent for 3-4 years now - I’ve changed workout programming and seen marginal changes

Recovery -
Generally quite good - but always slower recovery from heavy leg sessions though never impacts my lifts

Bloodwork -
I’m due to get my next set of bloods next week as par of the ongoing TRT so will upload then though last bloodwork was ok. Bee on TRT for about 6months. Free test and total test in range but upper levels, Cholesterol very low and AST ALT levels marginally above.

I’m keen for lean muscle gains. I was 66kg when i started lifting, skin and bones and have notice progress halting over the past few years. I notice dialing up cals from where i am leads to increase in BF (and strength) but no increase in lean mass. Does this help?

bros you should post up a log. seem like your training is good 5x a week good commitment

 

[Ulter]

Been lurking for a while on here - amazing source of information.
First post and looking for advice on a first cycle.
43yo / 15%bf, 80kg, been training consistently for about 10yrs.
Started TRT @ 125mg/week in 2025.
Bloods are fine on current dose. T within range but upper end. Body comp the same as pre TRT but energy and motivation much improved.

Planning to commence 250-300mg test e only cycle (12wks) to understand how my body reacts to the increased dose before adding orals or anything else on for a cycle later in the year/next year.

I realise this is a very low dose but will still have ai on hand. I’m not as young as I was and hence not wanting to jump straight on a high dose immediately.

Is this a wise approach? If not, how would you approach a first cycle at my age with the goal of simply adding size.
Thanks in advance.

No reason to overcomplicate this. If you want to do testosterone, only do it 300 to 500 mg a week. Make sure you have an AI and make sure you're using support supplement n2guard

 

[ROIDDERS]

Been lurking for a while on here - amazing source of information.
First post and looking for advice on a first cycle.
43yo / 15%bf, 80kg, been training consistently for about 10yrs.
Started TRT @ 125mg/week in 2025.
Bloods are fine on current dose. T within range but upper end. Body comp the same as pre TRT but energy and motivation much improved.

Planning to commence 250-300mg test e only cycle (12wks) to understand how my body reacts to the increased dose before adding orals or anything else on for a cycle later in the year/next year.

I realise this is a very low dose but will still have ai on hand. I’m not as young as I was and hence not wanting to jump straight on a high dose immediately.

Is this a wise approach? If not, how would you approach a first cycle at my age with the goal of simply adding size.
Thanks in advance.

You can do testosterone as a first cycle, sure, but I don't see a problem with stacking an oral steroid to kick-start things.

 

[2Thick]

Been lurking for a while on here - amazing source of information.
First post and looking for advice on a first cycle.
43yo / 15%bf, 80kg, been training consistently for about 10yrs.
Started TRT @ 125mg/week in 2025.
Bloods are fine on current dose. T within range but upper end. Body comp the same as pre TRT but energy and motivation much improved.

Planning to commence 250-300mg test e only cycle (12wks) to understand how my body reacts to the increased dose before adding orals or anything else on for a cycle later in the year/next year.

I realise this is a very low dose but will still have ai on hand. I’m not as young as I was and hence not wanting to jump straight on a high dose immediately.

Is this a wise approach? If not, how would you approach a first cycle at my age with the goal of simply adding size.
Thanks in advance.

Testosterone is a good first cycle. Make sure you have aromasin on hand or arimidex. They are very important in case you have estrogen issues.

 

[Sharkie]

bros you should post up a log. seem like your training is good 5x a week good commitment

will definitely do a log for the cycle. Thanks bro

 

[Sharkie]

Post those bloods up

Current bloods are about 3 months old so will share the new bloods next week.
Also love the podcast mate! It’s partly what’s inspired me to pushing on to try to break the plateau.

 

[Allupfromhere]

Of course man… more than happy to share more.

Nutrition is as follows -

Standard training day - 2800 Cal P: 220 / C: 300 / F: 70
Heavy (legs) - 3200 Cal P: 220 / C: 420 / F: 80
Rest - 2000 Cal P: 200 / C: 100 / F: 90

Training - 5 days per week
Day 1: Legs
Day 2: Chest/back
Rest
Day 4: Legs
Day 5: Chest/Back
Day 6: Shoulders arms
Rest

progressive overload principles though mostly focused on compound lifts (due to training in a home gym. Squats, deads, bench, rows + dumbbell / cable accessory work. Have progressed relatively well over the years though hit a plateau over the last 3 years.
My current composition has been consistent for 3-4 years now - I’ve changed workout programming and seen marginal changes

Recovery -
Generally quite good - but always slower recovery from heavy leg sessions though never impacts my lifts

Bloodwork -
I’m due to get my next set of bloods next week as par of the ongoing TRT so will upload then though last bloodwork was ok. Bee on TRT for about 6months. Free test and total test in range but upper levels, Cholesterol very low and AST ALT levels marginally above.

I’m keen for lean muscle gains. I was 66kg when i started lifting, skin and bones and have notice progress halting over the past few years. I notice dialing up cals from where i am leads to increase in BF (and strength) but no increase in lean mass. Does this help?

Yeah solid, post a photo of physique brother

 

[Sharkie]

Yeah solid, post a photo of physique brother

 

[LevButlerov]

Of course man… more than happy to share more.

Nutrition is as follows -

Standard training day - 2800 Cal P: 220 / C: 300 / F: 70
Heavy (legs) - 3200 Cal P: 220 / C: 420 / F: 80
Rest - 2000 Cal P: 200 / C: 100 / F: 90

Training - 5 days per week
Day 1: Legs
Day 2: Chest/back
Rest
Day 4: Legs
Day 5: Chest/Back
Day 6: Shoulders arms
Rest

progressive overload principles though mostly focused on compound lifts (due to training in a home gym. Squats, deads, bench, rows + dumbbell / cable accessory work. Have progressed relatively well over the years though hit a plateau over the last 3 years.
My current composition has been consistent for 3-4 years now - I’ve changed workout programming and seen marginal changes

Recovery -
Generally quite good - but always slower recovery from heavy leg sessions though never impacts my lifts

Bloodwork -
I’m due to get my next set of bloods next week as par of the ongoing TRT so will upload then though last bloodwork was ok. Bee on TRT for about 6months. Free test and total test in range but upper levels, Cholesterol very low and AST ALT levels marginally above.

I’m keen for lean muscle gains. I was 66kg when i started lifting, skin and bones and have notice progress halting over the past few years. I notice dialing up cals from where i am leads to increase in BF (and strength) but no increase in lean mass. Does this help?

can you please start a new thread with your log for this @Sharkie did you see my post I gave you how to? click below
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/first-cycle-test-only.109077/post-1967519

welcome to the EVO family @Sharkie
We don’t know enough about you to guide this yet because we haven’t seen your training volume, calories, sleep, recovery, or how you are responding day to day on 125 mg TRT.
Before changing doses you need to post a proper TRT log ASAP with daily food, bodyweight, training loads, sleep, and sides so the EVO family can actually help instead of guessing. 15min of your time to start it

HOW-TO LOG?

Why is a Log Journal important?

• Doing a log will actually help you way more than just dropping random updates. When you lay it all out week by week you start to see patterns in your body that you won’t catch otherwise.
• Other guys here run logs all the time and there’s no privacy issue, nobody is asking for your name or anything personal, it is just training, diet, and how the compound feels.
• The feedback you get is also way better because people can follow along and spot things you might miss. It also helps the next guy who is thinking about running the same compound so you are giving back while you learn.
• Even if you think you might not stick with it, just starting the log makes it easier to come back and add quick notes. That way you get more out of what you are running instead of keeping it all in your head.

To really guide you we need more info from you:

• Please share your diet, training, cardio, sleep, supplements etc log with us in a NEW thread, full log journal so our guidance is based on facts you provide.
• It will take 15-20 minutes max.
• We have 100s of years of experience between us, so you need to post a LOG Journal with your stats (weight,height,age, years training, cycle history) diet, training, cardio, supplement, sleep details. If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.
• Please post a Log Journal asap for us

Please click the anabolic forum
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/forums/anabolic-steroids-and-peds.2/
top RIGHT, you see: +POST THREAD
click that

in Title: write your cycle name, like> My _____ Cycle Log
___ = the name of your log
example: My TRT training cycle Log
in body: write your planned cycle or cycle you doing now, your diet, training and we will help you along on your cycle

here are examples of LOG Journals
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/first-testosterone-cycle-log.104133/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/sustanon-trenomast-deca-dbol-cycle-journal.105881/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-2025-26-growth-phase-log-with-psl.106514/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...var-bpc157-beligas-pharmaqo-cycle-log.104843/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...g-log-sponsored-by-purity-source-labs.103669/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...erone-cycle-and-beginner-training-log.106310/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/average-trt-back-to-savage-cycle-journal.106252
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...-testosterone-masteron-primobolan-deca.105348
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...odybuilding-log-masters-55-competitor.102611/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...ron-npp-tren-anadrol-log-to-stage-2025.102590

P.S. are you listening to our podcast? if not, you should; this podcast is about steroids, sarms, peptides, and bodybuilding:
https://www.evolutionary.org/podcasts/
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/evolutionary-bodybuilding-radio/id1798623410
https://open.spotify.com/show/53q1RFTgG4h6TQHsJ4xY6Z

P.P.S. download our eBooks and learn more:
https://irongorillas.com

 

[Sharkie]

can you please start a new thread with your log for this @Sharkie did you see my post I gave you how to? click below
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/first-cycle-test-only.109077/post-1967519

Hi @LevButlerov - yes I saw, think I flicked you a DM too. I plan to do a log for the cycle.

 

[Allupfromhere]

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Solid base brother! Your on trt so no need to cut yourself off at 12 weeks brother honestly.

Now is a perfect opportunity to find your perfect dose of test.

Start at the 300 and redraw bloods at the 4 week marks lets see how the body responds and how much you convert estrogen wise.

If all is good move to 400 and draw bloods at the following 4 week mark.

Make sure you have aromasin on hand first in case your e2 to bounce fast.

Once at 400 ride that out brother as long as you bloods and health are in check. You could take this out to 20 weeks plus if everything is where it should be and make steady quality gains the whole time.

 

[LevButlerov]

Hi @LevButlerov - yes I saw, think I flicked you a DM too. I plan to do a log for the cycle.

waiting on you now @Sharkie

 

[ceo]

will definitely do a log for the cycle. Thanks bro

Bros, hell yeah, I want to see it!

 

[Sharkie]

Solid base brother! Your on trt so no need to cut yourself off at 12 weeks brother honestly.

Now is a perfect opportunity to find your perfect dose of test.

Start at the 300 and redraw bloods at the 4 week marks lets see how the body responds and how much you convert estrogen wise.

If all is good move to 400 and draw bloods at the following 4 week mark.

Make sure you have aromasin on hand first in case your e2 to bounce fast.

Once at 400 ride that out brother as long as you bloods and health are in check. You could take this out to 20 weeks plus if everything is where it should be and make steady quality gains the whole time.

Appreciate the advice. I’m keen to do regular bloods throughout the cycle and increasing dose from a low base based on key markers makes sense. Thanks for the guidance, especially on length of cycle too bro.

 

[Sharkie]

waiting on you now @Sharkie

Plan is to do bloods next week, then if all looks good, kick off the cycle wc16th. Thanks for the push to log bro

 

[R.AP]

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Foundations are there brother! Legs are solid. How's your first cycle going?

 

[Sharkie]

Foundations are there brother! Legs are solid. How's your first cycle going?

Thanks bro. Appreciate it… Only on 125mg doctor prescribed TRT at the moment. Will kickoff the cycle in 2 weeks following bloods.

 

[LevButlerov]

Appreciate the advice. I’m keen to do regular bloods throughout the cycle and increasing dose from a low base based on key markers makes sense. Thanks for the guidance, especially on length of cycle too bro.

Plan is to do bloods next week, then if all looks good, kick off the cycle wc16th. Thanks for the push to log bro

Since you have this posted here we transformed your thread into a log @Sharkie
here is what bloods to ger
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...what-labs-to-test-on-steroids-and-trt.107781/


Please share more day to day information with us.

Diet, Training, Cardio
Diet, please share foods and meals and when you eat them, macros would be good
Training, please share actual exercises reps sets and weights, as you go especially get stronger
cardio how much do you do? when etc
If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Or use an app like myfitness pal or cronometer. Very easy.

supplements
Are you taking high doses Vitamin C?
what digestive supps you use?
digestive enzymes?
multis?
probiotics?
psyllium husk?

are you listening to our podcast? if not, you should:
https://www.evolutionary.org/podcasts/
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/evolutionary-bodybuilding-radio/id1798623410
https://open.spotify.com/show/53q1RFTgG4h6TQHsJ4xY6Z

 

[ballin2504]

A log would be the best beneficially

 

[Sharkie]

Since you have this posted here we transformed your thread into a log @Sharkie
here is what bloods to ger
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...what-labs-to-test-on-steroids-and-trt.107781/


Please share more day to day information with us.

Diet, Training, Cardio
Diet, please share foods and meals and when you eat them, macros would be good
Training, please share actual exercises reps sets and weights, as you go especially get stronger
cardio how much do you do? when etc
If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Or use an app like myfitness pal or cronometer. Very easy.

supplements
Are you taking high doses Vitamin C?
what digestive supps you use?
digestive enzymes?
multis?
probiotics?
psyllium husk?

are you listening to our podcast? if not, you should:
https://www.evolutionary.org/podcasts/
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/evolutionary-bodybuilding-radio/id1798623410
https://open.spotify.com/show/53q1RFTgG4h6TQHsJ4xY6Z

Yep, I track it all dude. Finished a 4 week training block this morning. This is my current month with all weights and reps. I have this level of tracking for every month for the last 5yrs. Plus also track body weight daily.
I’m stronger than usual at the moment. I hit 190kgs x 5 dead’s this week which is equal to a PB I set 18months ago but I’m currently 2kgs lighter in body weight. TRT clearly helping.

I track all my cals too. The attached is an average moderate day for me. Proteins change but everything else is standard. On top of this I take 10g creatine daily and then supplement with a multi, zinc, vitamin D, vitamin C, fish oil and magnesium.

No probiotic or gut support - what would be recommended?

 

[LevButlerov]

Yep, I track it all dude. Finished a 4 week training block this morning. This is my current month with all weights and reps. I have this level of tracking for every month for the last 5yrs. Plus also track body weight daily.
I’m stronger than usual at the moment. I hit 190kgs x 5 dead’s this week which is equal to a PB I set 18months ago but I’m currently 2kgs lighter in body weight. TRT clearly helping.

I track all my cals too. The attached is an average moderate day for me. Proteins change but everything else is standard. On top of this I take 10g creatine daily and then supplement with a multi, zinc, vitamin D, vitamin C, fish oil and magnesium.

No probiotic or gut support - what would be recommended?

I like the deads work would be nice if you can copy paste it.
The food I see but not showing total macros?

you should add to your supplement stack ed probiotics 30 billion and up with digestive enzymes and ed psyllium husk @Sharkie

 

[Sharkie]

I like the deads work would be nice if you can copy paste it.
The food I see but not showing total macros?

you should add to your supplement stack ed probiotics 30 billion and up with digestive enzymes and ed psyllium husk @Sharkie

Sweet.
Current macros are:
Standard training day - 2800 Cal P: 220 / C: 300 / F: 70
Heavy (legs) - 3200 Cal P: 220 / C: 420 / F: 80
Rest - 2000 Cal P: 200 / C: 100 / F: 90

Will repost the workouts soon

 

[LevButlerov]

Sweet.
Current macros are:
Standard training day - 2800 Cal P: 220 / C: 300 / F: 70
Heavy (legs) - 3200 Cal P: 220 / C: 420 / F: 80
Rest - 2000 Cal P: 200 / C: 100 / F: 90

Will repost the workouts soon

lets start getting food up as well, proteins should be 250 @Sharkie

 

[R.AP]

Thanks bro. Appreciate it… Only on 125mg doctor prescribed TRT at the moment. Will kickoff the cycle in 2 weeks following bloods.

Exciting times bro, I'll be following!

 

[Sharkie]

lets start getting food up as well, proteins should be 250 @Sharkie

Squats		Set	Reps
A	Low Bar Squat 4/2/2/0	5	5	135,135,(5),135(6),137.5,137.5(5s) goooood strong
B	High Bar Squat 4/2/2/0	3	8	110,112.5,112.5(8s) moooore
Chest and Back	Set	Reps
A	Flat pause BB Bench press 4/2/2/0	5	5	100,100,100,100(5s),100(4),72.5guilo 12
B	Incline bench press 4/2/2/0	3	8	75,75,75 moooore
C	Pronated pull up 4/2/2/0	3	5	22.5,22.5,22.5(5s) mooore
D	Close grip pull down	3	8	67.5,67.5,67.5(8) bounce on last 3 again
E	Face Pull	3	12	40,40,40(12) moooore
F	Incline DB press	3	12	32.5,32.5,32.5 (12) slow and deep moooore
Deadlift & Squat	Set	Reps
A	Deadlift	3	5	182.5,187.5,190(5) YESS mooore
B	Romanian Deads	3	8	130,130,130 moooore
C	High Bar Squat 4/2/2/0	2	10	112.5,112.5(10)mooore
Chest and Back	Set	Reps
A	Flat pause BB Bench press 4/2/2/0	4	6	97.5,97.5,97.5,97.5(6s) gooood 75,75 guilo
B	Incline bench press 4/2/2/0	3	8	75,75,75(8) slow gooood
C	Neutral grip chins 4/2/2/0	3	6	22.5,25,25
D	Single Arm Row 4/2/2/0	3	8	62.5,62.5,62.5 mooore
E	Around the world	3	8	17.5,18.5,
Shoulders & Arms	Set	Reps
A1	Standing BB Shoulder press 4/2/2/0	4	6	55(6),55(7),57.5(6), 57.5(5)
A2	One Arm DB concentration Curls 4/2/2/0	4	6	22.5,22.5,22.5,22.5 mooore
B	Seated DB Shoulder press 4/2/2/0	3	8	30(12),30(11),30(12) mooore
C	45Degree Incline Supinated Curl 4/2/2/0	3	8	19.5,19.5(8s)19.5(7)
D1	Seated DB Side Lateral Raise	3	8	16,16,16(8s) mooore
D2	Tricep push down 4/2/2/0	3	8	40,40,40(8s) mooore

 

[Sharkie]

Squats		Set	Reps
A	Low Bar Squat 4/2/2/0	5	5	135,135,(5),135(6),137.5,137.5(5s) goooood strong
B	High Bar Squat 4/2/2/0	3	8	110,112.5,112.5(8s) moooore
Chest and Back	Set	Reps
A	Flat pause BB Bench press 4/2/2/0	5	5	100,100,100,100(5s),100(4),72.5guilo 12
B	Incline bench press 4/2/2/0	3	8	75,75,75 moooore
C	Pronated pull up 4/2/2/0	3	5	22.5,22.5,22.5(5s) mooore
D	Close grip pull down	3	8	67.5,67.5,67.5(8) bounce on last 3 again
E	Face Pull	3	12	40,40,40(12) moooore
F	Incline DB press	3	12	32.5,32.5,32.5 (12) slow and deep moooore
Deadlift & Squat	Set	Reps
A	Deadlift	3	5	182.5,187.5,190(5) YESS mooore
B	Romanian Deads	3	8	130,130,130 moooore
C	High Bar Squat 4/2/2/0	2	10	112.5,112.5(10)mooore
Chest and Back	Set	Reps
A	Flat pause BB Bench press 4/2/2/0	4	6	97.5,97.5,97.5,97.5(6s) gooood 75,75 guilo
B	Incline bench press 4/2/2/0	3	8	75,75,75(8) slow gooood
C	Neutral grip chins 4/2/2/0	3	6	22.5,25,25
D	Single Arm Row 4/2/2/0	3	8	62.5,62.5,62.5 mooore
E	Around the world	3	8	17.5,18.5,
Shoulders & Arms	Set	Reps
A1	Standing BB Shoulder press 4/2/2/0	4	6	55(6),55(7),57.5(6), 57.5(5)
A2	One Arm DB concentration Curls 4/2/2/0	4	6	22.5,22.5,22.5,22.5 mooore
B	Seated DB Shoulder press 4/2/2/0	3	8	30(12),30(11),30(12) mooore
C	45Degree Incline Supinated Curl 4/2/2/0	3	8	19.5,19.5(8s)19.5(7)
D1	Seated DB Side Lateral Raise	3	8	16,16,16(8s) mooore
D2	Tricep push down 4/2/2/0	3	8	40,40,40(8s) mooore

This was the last week of the current training block. Shifting to a new program today.
Bloods Wednesday then will begin the cycle end of week.

 

[LevButlerov]

This was the last week of the current training block. Shifting to a new program today.
Bloods Wednesday then will begin the cycle end of week.

Good training week I like the high bar squats good numbers

 

[Sharkie]

@LevButlerov or anyone else - any tips on the right AI to use on hand for when I commence the somewhat low cycle (250/300mg test e). Would it be wise to run nolvadex from the start of the cycle or have aromasin on hand in case of symptoms of high E. Planning to do bloods every 4 weeks.

 

[LevButlerov]

@LevButlerov or anyone else - any tips on the right AI to use on hand for when I commence the somewhat low cycle (250/300mg test e). Would it be wise to run nolvadex from the start of the cycle or have aromasin on hand in case of symptoms of high E. Planning to do bloods every 4 weeks.

i would work it around the bloods
300mgs test really depends how you aromatize @Sharkie

 

[Allupfromhere]

@LevButlerov or anyone else - any tips on the right AI to use on hand for when I commence the somewhat low cycle (250/300mg test e). Would it be wise to run nolvadex from the start of the cycle or have aromasin on hand in case of symptoms of high E. Planning to do bloods every 4 weeks.

Just have an ai on hand brother aromasin being my preferred choice. But only deploy it if true high e2 side begin to surface and if the do i would always encourage getting some bloods done to confirm before using heavy amount of ai as it simply night not be needed.

Can always be smart to keep something like nolva on hand too if gyno decides to show up, dont be confused as nolvadex is a serm not an ai and wont suppress conversion.

 

[Sharkie]

Just have an ai on hand brother aromasin being my preferred choice. But only deploy it if true high e2 side begin to surface and if the do i would always encourage getting some bloods done to confirm before using heavy amount of ai as it simply night not be needed.

Can always be smart to keep something like nolva on hand too if gyno decides to show up, dont be confused as nolvadex is a serm not an ai and wont suppress conversion.

Great - thanks for the clarification.

 

[waggat]

Been lurking for a while on here - amazing source of information.
First post and looking for advice on a first cycle.
43yo / 15%bf, 80kg, been training consistently for about 10yrs.
Started TRT @ 125mg/week in 2025.
Bloods are fine on current dose. T within range but upper end. Body comp the same as pre TRT but energy and motivation much improved.

Planning to commence 250-300mg test e only cycle (12wks) to understand how my body reacts to the increased dose before adding orals or anything else on for a cycle later in the year/next year.

I realise this is a very low dose but will still have ai on hand. I’m not as young as I was and hence not wanting to jump straight on a high dose immediately.

Is this a wise approach? If not, how would you approach a first cycle at my age with the goal of simply adding size.
Thanks in advance.

Hey mate, nice start to your log.

I'd probably recommend at least 300mg/week. You can ease up to the if you want but it's not the highest dose anyway. Would also be nothing wrong with pushing to 400 after a few weeks if everything is going ok.

Of course man… more than happy to share more.

Nutrition is as follows -

Standard training day - 2800 Cal P: 220 / C: 300 / F: 70
Heavy (legs) - 3200 Cal P: 220 / C: 420 / F: 80
Rest - 2000 Cal P: 200 / C: 100 / F: 90

Training - 5 days per week
Day 1: Legs
Day 2: Chest/back
Rest
Day 4: Legs
Day 5: Chest/Back
Day 6: Shoulders arms
Rest

progressive overload principles though mostly focused on compound lifts (due to training in a home gym. Squats, deads, bench, rows + dumbbell / cable accessory work. Have progressed relatively well over the years though hit a plateau over the last 3 years.
My current composition has been consistent for 3-4 years now - I’ve changed workout programming and seen marginal changes

Recovery -
Generally quite good - but always slower recovery from heavy leg sessions though never impacts my lifts

Bloodwork -
I’m due to get my next set of bloods next week as par of the ongoing TRT so will upload then though last bloodwork was ok. Bee on TRT for about 6months. Free test and total test in range but upper levels, Cholesterol very low and AST ALT levels marginally above.

I’m keen for lean muscle gains. I was 66kg when i started lifting, skin and bones and have notice progress halting over the past few years. I notice dialing up cals from where i am leads to increase in BF (and strength) but no increase in lean mass. Does this help?

Training look good there. I guess its similar to upper/lower x 2 + accessories.

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You're a bit of a beast mate. Definitely a good base. I think your lean enough for the cycle to be a lean gain as well.

Squats		Set	Reps
A	Low Bar Squat 4/2/2/0	5	5	135,135,(5),135(6),137.5,137.5(5s) goooood strong
B	High Bar Squat 4/2/2/0	3	8	110,112.5,112.5(8s) moooore
Chest and Back	Set	Reps
A	Flat pause BB Bench press 4/2/2/0	5	5	100,100,100,100(5s),100(4),72.5guilo 12
B	Incline bench press 4/2/2/0	3	8	75,75,75 moooore
C	Pronated pull up 4/2/2/0	3	5	22.5,22.5,22.5(5s) mooore
D	Close grip pull down	3	8	67.5,67.5,67.5(8) bounce on last 3 again
E	Face Pull	3	12	40,40,40(12) moooore
F	Incline DB press	3	12	32.5,32.5,32.5 (12) slow and deep moooore
Deadlift & Squat	Set	Reps
A	Deadlift	3	5	182.5,187.5,190(5) YESS mooore
B	Romanian Deads	3	8	130,130,130 moooore
C	High Bar Squat 4/2/2/0	2	10	112.5,112.5(10)mooore
Chest and Back	Set	Reps
A	Flat pause BB Bench press 4/2/2/0	4	6	97.5,97.5,97.5,97.5(6s) gooood 75,75 guilo
B	Incline bench press 4/2/2/0	3	8	75,75,75(8) slow gooood
C	Neutral grip chins 4/2/2/0	3	6	22.5,25,25
D	Single Arm Row 4/2/2/0	3	8	62.5,62.5,62.5 mooore
E	Around the world	3	8	17.5,18.5,
Shoulders & Arms	Set	Reps
A1	Standing BB Shoulder press 4/2/2/0	4	6	55(6),55(7),57.5(6), 57.5(5)
A2	One Arm DB concentration Curls 4/2/2/0	4	6	22.5,22.5,22.5,22.5 mooore
B	Seated DB Shoulder press 4/2/2/0	3	8	30(12),30(11),30(12) mooore
C	45Degree Incline Supinated Curl 4/2/2/0	3	8	19.5,19.5(8s)19.5(7)
D1	Seated DB Side Lateral Raise	3	8	16,16,16(8s) mooore
D2	Tricep push down 4/2/2/0	3	8	40,40,40(8s) mooore

What's the story with the limited number of exercises on leg days? The first one for example I'd keep one squat and then add leg press or hack squat and a few other accessory exercises. The second one I'd be a bit worried about your lower back. Also, do your shoulders go ok with the pressing on the second chest and back day followed by the shoulder press the next day?

 

[Sharkie]

Hey mate, nice start to your log.

I'd probably recommend at least 300mg/week. You can ease up to the if you want but it's not the highest dose anyway. Would also be nothing wrong with pushing to 400 after a few weeks if everything is going ok.

Training look good there. I guess its similar to upper/lower x 2 + accessories.

You're a bit of a beast mate. Definitely a good base. I think your lean enough for the cycle to be a lean gain as well.

What's the story with the limited number of exercises on leg days? The first one for example I'd keep one squat and then add leg press or hack squat and a few other accessory exercises. The second one I'd be a bit worried about your lower back. Also, do your shoulders go ok with the pressing on the second chest and back day followed by the shoulder press the next day?

Thanks @waggat great advice.
300mg is what I’m aiming for.
I had my 3 month bloods on TRT today so once I get the results tomorrow/friday I’ll begin to up the dose. I’ll likely push to 250mg for the first 2 wks then to 300mg if my body’s responding appropriately. I’m a little concerned with gyno as I was a bit of a fat kid/teen and had some early stages back then. Will have Aromasin on hand for the cycle.

I had the base of this training structure developed from a PT a few years back. I train at 4am most days, with a home gym set up so I have a somewhat limited exercise selection. Due to this being a strength focused program (sets of 5/4 on compounds), I’m taking 5 mins rest between sets. Leg day still takes close to an hr with warm ups - which at my age is longer than it used to be.
I also do 20min full incline walks on the treadmill following every session. By then the kids are away and no time left.
Shoulders and chest recover fine with this programming, it’s my legs that need the most recovery!
Considering shifting to a program with higher volume/reps later in the cycle.

 

[Sharkie]

Post those bloods up

@Mobster @LevButlerov @Allupfromhere @waggat

3 month bloods on TRT are in. These now need to be shared with the clinic.

I’ve been on 125mg of Test E, pinning twice per week).
Before I commenced my levels were:
Total T - 12.7nmol/L
SHBG - 45nmol/L
Free test - 200pmol/L
E2 - 91pmol/L

AST - 67U/L
ALT - 70U/L
* my ast and alt have been high for 10yrs, have looked into it and found no issues, but I’m not completely off alcohol and taking powdered NAC from Bulk Nutrients on the morning.

Would really like any feedback on the current bloods before upping my dose. My initial thoughts:
- Clinic may decrease my prescribed dose based on free T
- E2 on the upper end but from my reading this seems to be ok due to the elevated t levels
- need to do more to get on top of my liver function
- aside from that, I feel bloods are ok to now proceed with kicking off a cycle at 300mg?

Thanks guys for any feedback.

 

[Sharkie]

Also, thought I’d just update on TRT impact at 3 months.
I feel fkn great! Bounce out of bed at 4am, pushing harder through workouts, actually look forward to cardio at the end of the session rather than dreading it. Libido is ok but no at my 20yo levels. I’ve dropped a bit of fat but looking fuller in the mirror.
Pumped to push on if everyone things the bloods look ok.

Weigh in this morning: 77.8kg
BF: 16.4%
Muscle mass: 48kg

 

[waggat]

@Mobster @LevButlerov @Allupfromhere @waggat

3 month bloods on TRT are in. These now need to be shared with the clinic.

I’ve been on 125mg of Test E, pinning twice per week).
Before I commenced my levels were:
Total T - 12.7nmol/L
SHBG - 45nmol/L
Free test - 200pmol/L
E2 - 91pmol/L

AST - 67U/L
ALT - 70U/L
* my ast and alt have been high for 10yrs, have looked into it and found no issues, but I’m not completely off alcohol and taking powdered NAC from Bulk Nutrients on the morning.

Would really like any feedback on the current bloods before upping my dose. My initial thoughts:
- Clinic may decrease my prescribed dose based on free T
- E2 on the upper end but from my reading this seems to be ok due to the elevated t levels
- need to do more to get on top of my liver function
- aside from that, I feel bloods are ok to now proceed with kicking off a cycle at 300mg?

Thanks guys for any feedback.

Looks good to me mate. Not sure what the clinic will do. Only just above range. Good numbers for 125mg/week.

To me your E2 is fine. Starting at 300/week test I would start with Aromasin from the get go though. Maybe 12.5mg/week. Others can probably offer better advice here.

I think you definitely need to do more for your liver as well. Can you stop all alcohol? Add milk thistle and tudca as well.

 

[Sharkie]

Looks good to me mate. Not sure what the clinic will do. Only just above range. Good numbers for 125mg/week.

To me your E2 is fine. Starting at 300/week test I would start with Aromasin from the get go though. Maybe 12.5mg/week. Others can probably offer better advice here.

I think you definitely need to do more for your liver as well. Can you stop all alcohol? Add milk thistle and tudca as well.

Thanks @waggat
Yep, I’m done with booze, haven’t touched a drop this year and feeling great. Need to do more for the levels though. Thanks for the tips re milk thistle and tudca.

E2 - I’ll have aromasin on hand when I’m kicking off the cycle, just not sure if I should start with it from the commencement. Appreciate the tip - I’d rather err on the side of caution but open to all feedback.

 

[Allupfromhere]

@Mobster @LevButlerov @Allupfromhere @waggat

3 month bloods on TRT are in. These now need to be shared with the clinic.

I’ve been on 125mg of Test E, pinning twice per week).
Before I commenced my levels were:
Total T - 12.7nmol/L
SHBG - 45nmol/L
Free test - 200pmol/L
E2 - 91pmol/L

AST - 67U/L
ALT - 70U/L
* my ast and alt have been high for 10yrs, have looked into it and found no issues, but I’m not completely off alcohol and taking powdered NAC from Bulk Nutrients on the morning.

Would really like any feedback on the current bloods before upping my dose. My initial thoughts:
- Clinic may decrease my prescribed dose based on free T
- E2 on the upper end but from my reading this seems to be ok due to the elevated t levels
- need to do more to get on top of my liver function
- aside from that, I feel bloods are ok to now proceed with kicking off a cycle at 300mg?

Thanks guys for any feedback.

Mate your in a fantastic spot for a growth phase... could still be leaner but thats jist getting to the nitty gritty.

Ast/alt is higher yeah but you said you have always had this? GGT is good though
Did you train withing the 2 days leading ing the blood test? This can effect readings.

Yes continue to take nac -
1200mg daily.
Add -
Tudca 1000mg daily

E2 is in a great spot, in my opinion yes at high end but test is high also however it doesnt leave you much room to move when you move test higher again.
So for this cycle i would recommend an ai like aromasin to see you through.

 

[Sharkie]

Mate your in a fantastic spot for a growth phase... could still be leaner but thats jist getting to the nitty gritty.

Ast/alt is higher yeah but you said you have always had this? GGT is good though
Did you train withing the 2 days leading ing the blood test? This can effect readings.

Yes continue to take nac -
1200mg daily.
Add -
Tudca 1000mg daily

E2 is in a great spot, in my opinion yes at high end but test is high also however it doesnt leave you much room to move when you move test higher again.
So for this cycle i would recommend an ai like aromasin to see you through.

Epic, thanks for the advice. Will add in Tudca and up the NAC.

Yes, I trained legs the day before the blood test - didn’t realise that could directly impact the data.

Thanks for the steer re: aromasin. I’ve just orders Sparta Aromasin. As Waggat mentioned - should I start at 12.5mg daily?

 

[Allupfromhere]

Epic, thanks for the advice. Will add in Tudca and up the NAC.

Yes, I trained legs the day before the blood test - didn’t realise that could directly impact the data.

Thanks for the steer re: aromasin. I’ve just orders Sparta Aromasin. As Waggat mentioned - should I start at 12.5mg daily?

Ahhh there it is brother big leg session the day before 100% would have skewed those numbers no doubt.

Perfect brother getting the aromasin! However definitely not 12.5mg daily lol. @waggat mentioned weekly, that dose daily going to nuke your e2 at that level and trust me you dont want to know how that feels hahaha.

I would opt for 6.25mg twice a week for the first 2 weeks of your testosterone dose increase. Pull some bloods again, can use the roidsafe ones just to see the shift in trend as its cheaper then imedical. If e2 is good hold that dose for aromasin if its too high move up to 12.5mg twice weekly.

Dont fear e2 being a little higher when test levels are high bro. E2 has plenty of positive and protective qualities for men. Anywhere between 160-190 at that increase in test dose is good providing it doesnt present any high e2 sides like gyno.
I personally have mine around 190-200 and its where i feel the best.

 

[Sharkie]

Ahhh there it is brother big leg session the day before 100% would have skewed those numbers no doubt.

Perfect brother getting the aromasin! However definitely not 12.5mg daily lol. @waggat mentioned weekly, that dose daily going to nuke your e2 at that level and trust me you dont want to know how that feels hahaha.

I would opt for 6.25mg twice a week for the first 2 weeks of your testosterone dose increase. Pull some bloods again, can use the roidsafe ones just to see the shift in trend as its cheaper then imedical. If e2 is good hold that dose for aromasin if its too high move up to 12.5mg twice weekly.

Dont fear e2 being a little higher when test levels are high bro. E2 has plenty of positive and protective qualities for men. Anywhere between 160-190 at that increase in test dose is good providing it doesnt present any high e2 sides like gyno.
I personally have mine around 190-200 and its where i feel the best.

Ha - my mistake - @waggat knows his stuff.
Thanks for clarifying. All makes sense now.
I’ll take your advice for testing again soon into the cycle too. Thanks brother. First time delving into this, so I’d be lost without the feedback and help.

 

[Allupfromhere]

Ha - my mistake - @waggat knows his stuff.
Thanks for clarifying. All makes sense now.
I’ll take your advice for testing again soon into the cycle too. Thanks brother. First time delving into this, so I’d be lost without the feedback and help.

Reach out at any time, this is what evo is all about brother! I got a good feeling your about to suprise your self with how effective this first run is going to be

 

[LevButlerov]

@Mobster @LevButlerov @Allupfromhere @waggat

3 month bloods on TRT are in. These now need to be shared with the clinic.

I’ve been on 125mg of Test E, pinning twice per week).
Before I commenced my levels were:
Total T - 12.7nmol/L
SHBG - 45nmol/L
Free test - 200pmol/L
E2 - 91pmol/L

AST - 67U/L
ALT - 70U/L
* my ast and alt have been high for 10yrs, have looked into it and found no issues, but I’m not completely off alcohol and taking powdered NAC from Bulk Nutrients on the morning.

Would really like any feedback on the current bloods before upping my dose. My initial thoughts:
- Clinic may decrease my prescribed dose based on free T
- E2 on the upper end but from my reading this seems to be ok due to the elevated t levels
- need to do more to get on top of my liver function
- aside from that, I feel bloods are ok to now proceed with kicking off a cycle at 300mg?

Thanks guys for any feedback.

those are good bloods
the 32 isn't too much of an issue but i would add a dose of aromasin 5mgs/week max to level it out a bit @Sharkie

Also, thought I’d just update on TRT impact at 3 months.
I feel fkn great! Bounce out of bed at 4am, pushing harder through workouts, actually look forward to cardio at the end of the session rather than dreading it. Libido is ok but no at my 20yo levels. I’ve dropped a bit of fat but looking fuller in the mirror.
Pumped to push on if everyone things the bloods look ok.

Weigh in this morning: 77.8kg
BF: 16.4%
Muscle mass: 48kg

imo 150mgs is low for you, push it to 200-250

 

[Sharkie]

Feedback from TRT clinic based on the bloods was all positive (as per your feedback too). Their only adjustment to my treatment was to shift from pinning 0.25 twice per week to 0.17 three times per week. Good to know for future, obviously not needed for the cycle though.
I’m going to kick off the cycle on Monday. 300mg test e per week, pinning 3 times per week + 6.25mg aromasin.
Plan is to run 8-12 weeks. Will look to do bloods at the end of wk 2 then reassess based on results - then do bloods every 4 weeks.

Kicked off my new programming this week - feeling energised and strong - it was legs day today and managed a good PB of 3x4 sets of deadlifts at 197.5kgs.

Will take some updated pre-cycle photos this weekend. Thanks for the help this far!

 

[Sharkie]

Pre-cycle photos - 14/2/26

 

[LevButlerov]

Feedback from TRT clinic based on the bloods was all positive (as per your feedback too). Their only adjustment to my treatment was to shift from pinning 0.25 twice per week to 0.17 three times per week. Good to know for future, obviously not needed for the cycle though.
I’m going to kick off the cycle on Monday. 300mg test e per week, pinning 3 times per week + 6.25mg aromasin.
Plan is to run 8-12 weeks. Will look to do bloods at the end of wk 2 then reassess based on results - then do bloods every 4 weeks.

Kicked off my new programming this week - feeling energised and strong - it was legs day today and managed a good PB of 3x4 sets of deadlifts at 197.5kgs.

Will take some updated pre-cycle photos this weekend. Thanks for the help this far!

awesome so trt approved?

 

[LevButlerov]

Pre-cycle photos - 14/2/26

looking good WIDE back

 

[stevesmi]

Pre-cycle photos - 14/2/26

@Sharkie looking good on your pre-cycle photos. Looking really good actually. I can't imagine where you're going to be by the end of the cycle.

 

[ceo]

Pre-cycle photos - 14/2/26

Bros, the pre-cycle photos definitely look on point. You already look like a champion to me. You are gonna do really good on this one. @Sharkie

 

[Ulter]

Pre-cycle photos - 14/2/26

The V shape is looking definitely good. @Sharkie the abs are popping nicely as well and the muscles look fantastic.

 

[ROIDDERS]

Pre-cycle photos - 14/2/26

@Sharkie wow great job on this. Pre-cycle photos look fantastic. Now you have something to definitely hang your hat on and push yourself to improve from here.

 

[2Thick]

Pre-cycle photos - 14/2/26

Looking solid on this. The muscles are on point and you're looking really cut. Keep up the good work. @Sharkie

 

[Sharkie]

awesome so trt approved?

TRT clinic is keeping me at 125mg/week after the bloods, but I’ll be taking this up to 300mg/week from Monday.

 

[Sharkie]

@Sharkie looking good on your pre-cycle photos. Looking really good actually. I can't imagine where you're going to be by the end of the cycle.

Bros, the pre-cycle photos definitely look on point. You already look like a champion to me. You are gonna do really good on this one. @Sharkie

The V shape is looking definitely good. @Sharkie the abs are popping nicely as well and the muscles look fantastic.

@Sharkie wow great job on this. Pre-cycle photos look fantastic. Now you have something to definitely hang your hat on and push yourself to improve from here.

Looking solid on this. The muscles are on point and you're looking really cut. Keep up the good work. @Sharkie

Thanks a lot - appreciate the boost. Pumped to see where we can be in a few months

 

[Allupfromhere]

All looking good brother, game time monday

 

[Mobster]

Pre-cycle photos - 14/2/26

On the side pose I'd have you lift your chest up

 

[LevButlerov]

TRT clinic is keeping me at 125mg/week after the bloods, but I’ll be taking this up to 300mg/week from Monday.

300mgs is the win dose @Sharkie

 

[ROIDDERS]

Thanks a lot - appreciate the boost. Pumped to see where we can be in a few months

EVO family respect

 

[2Thick]

Thanks a lot - appreciate the boost. Pumped to see where we can be in a few months

keep up the good work. That's the iron grind we like to see.

 

[ceo]

Thanks a lot - appreciate the boost. Pumped to see where we can be in a few months

Bros, we love it. Keep up the good work.

 

[Ulter]

Thanks a lot - appreciate the boost. Pumped to see where we can be in a few months

we definitely want to see that for sure.

 

[Sharkie]

those are good bloods
the 32 isn't too much of an issue but i would add a dose of aromasin 5mgs/week max to level it out a bit @Sharkie


imo 150mgs is low for you, push it to 200-250

re aromasin: I realised that Sparta aromasin are 12.5mg capsules. Based on your recommended dose(5mg/week), how would you take this?
Opening the capsule and removing half of the contents will be inaccurate week on week but will get me closer to 5-6.25mg dose, or I could take a full capsule every other week but I assume this will make my e2 levels quite unstable and spiky.
Any advice would be great - thanks @LevButlerov
Or, am I overthinking this?

 

[LevButlerov]

re aromasin: I realised that Sparta aromasin are 12.5mg capsules. Based on your recommended dose(5mg/week), how would you take this?
Opening the capsule and removing half of the contents will be inaccurate week on week but will get me closer to 5-6.25mg dose, or I could take a full capsule every other week but I assume this will make my e2 levels quite unstable and spiky.
Any advice would be great - thanks @LevButlerov
Or, am I overthinking this?

in thi scase you can mix the capsule in water really well and drink 1/2 at a time @Sharkie

 

[Sharkie]

in thi scase you can mix the capsule in water really well and drink 1/2 at a time @Sharkie

Thanks bro

 

[LevButlerov]

Thanks bro

EVO family support

 

[Sharkie]

Woke up this morning following my first increased test e dose yesterday (100mg) with a headache I can’t shake. I’ve now taken the aromasin suspended in water in hope that the headache is BP related due to high e2.
I need to get a home BP kit but also curious if this is a common high E2 initial side.
Still worked out at 4am and actually crushed my session. Energy was high for the workout though now have a little brain fog due to the headache.

Hoping the ai sorts this out.

 

[LevButlerov]

Woke up this morning following my first increased test e dose yesterday (100mg) with a headache I can’t shake. I’ve now taken the aromasin suspended in water in hope that the headache is BP related due to high e2.
I need to get a home BP kit but also curious if this is a common high E2 initial side.
Still worked out at 4am and actually crushed my session. Energy was high for the workout though now have a little brain fog due to the headache.

Hoping the ai sorts this out.

headache doesn't mean bp, did you measure your bp and do you have the readings? @Sharkie

 

[Sharkie]

headache doesn't mean bp, did you measure your bp and do you have the readings? @Sharkie

Haven’t measured. I need to get a BP kit, so was jumping to conclusions. Could simply be high e2 if that’s a common symptom? I’m just assuming it’s connected to increasing dose as I very rarely get headaches.

 

[LevButlerov]

Haven’t measured. I need to get a BP kit, so was jumping to conclusions. Could simply be high e2 if that’s a common symptom? I’m just assuming it’s connected to increasing dose as I very rarely get headaches.

thats not the way to do it, you shouldn't just take aromasin when you have a headache not correct and dangerous @Sharkie
please measure BP ED

 

[Sharkie]

thats not the way to do it, you shouldn't just take aromasin when you have a headache not correct and dangerous @Sharkie
please measure BP ED

Sorry my post lacked clarity.
I took my weekly dose as planned (6.25mg aromasin) though it jut happened to coincide with a headache and a feeling of low energy.
All good - I’ll buy a BP monitor asap

 

[LevButlerov]

Sorry my post lacked clarity.
I took my weekly dose as planned (6.25mg aromasin) though it jut happened to coincide with a headache and a feeling of low energy.
All good - I’ll buy a BP monitor asap

I get it now but get BP monitor please

 

[Sharkie]

Sorry for the late check in. It’s been a great week but not without challenges.

Background: been on TRT for 3+months at 125mg Test E, and this week kicked off with 300mg Test E this week + 6.25 aromasin. Aiming for a 8-12wk cycle.
From Monday to Saturday morning I felt amazing. Energy was high, mood was great all week and I probably had one of the better training weeks of my life. Surely somewhat due to placebo but every workout was 10/10. Felt stronger and fuller, focused on form and connection and just felt great all week… including hitting a deadlift PR - 200kg for sets of 4!

I’m training 5 days per week with Wednesday and Sunday as rest days. Below is my workout week. On top of this I’m hitting 10,000 steps daily on working days which includes a 20min treadmill walk at max incline. On rest days I’m focused on active recovery - 15,000 steps steady state walk.

Satruday post workout my wife and I went to a bath house and did an hour of Sauna and cold plunging.

Then from mid saturday afternoon to monday evening I really struggled. Pre TRT i had a resting heart rate of about 52, since commencing TRT i’m now up at 57ish but rfor the last 3 days I’ve been about 65. I’ve had insomnia, felt somewhat congested and struggled. I’ve checked my BP each day throughout this period and had no elevation but it’s knocked me around a little. I skipped my T does on Monday incase this was related.

I then woke up today (tuesday), back to 100%, RHR back to 59 and trained as normal.

Weight in: 77.7kg average for the week
Blood pressure: 112/67

In the below photos, I’m more or less looking the same as last week though I’m definitely feeling fuller, more 3Dish.

I have a few questions that I'd appreciate any feedback on:

1. The Heart rate changes was concerning. Do you think this is dose related, and if so should i adjust. whilst i’m committed to this cycle, I also don’t want any unusual heart issues to bubble up. Is this elevation normal? Any changes to protocol you recommend?
2. My current traiming block is strength focused. Approx 80 sets per week though i read that when enhanced, you can push the volume to 100+ sets. Would this be advised this early in a cycle?
3. My weight has come down marginally and definitely lost some fat. I plan to keep my cals as they are for the next week then reassess. I really want to add some lean size through this cycle to I’m open to upping cals to achieve this though concious not to increase BF. Currently on 2800cals moderate day, 3200cals leg days, 2100 rest days

Day 1 - Squats
		Set	Reps	Weight
A	Low Bar Squat	5	4	142.5,142.5,142.5,142.5,142.5(4s) goood deeper
B	High Bar Squat	3	10	115,115,115 moooore better depth
C	Front squat -4 sec eccentric	1	8	80(8)
Day 2 - Chest and Back
		Set	Reps	Weight
A	Flat pause BB Bench press	3	4	135(iso-20sec),105,105,105(4s) less butt 75 (12 guillo)
B	Neutral grip pull up - 4sec	3	4	32.5,32.5,32.5(4) perfect mooore
C	Low incline BB chest press 27deg	3	10	75,75(10),77.5(10) gooood [email protected]
D	1 arm pronated DB Row	3	10	62.5,62.5,62.5(12s) mooore
E	Around the world	3	10	19.5,19.5(10)
F	Incline press 35deg slooooow	3	12	32.5 neutral (12) mooore
Day 3 - Deadlift & Squat
		Set	Reps	Weight
A	Deadlift	3	4	180(4),192.5(1),192.5(4),200(4)
B	Romanian Deads	2	10	132.5,132.5(10)mooore
C	High Bar Squat	2	10	110,110,110(10)lighter but extra set
Day 2 - Chest and Back
		Set	Reps	Weight
A	Flat BB Bench press	4	8	92.5,95,95,95(8s) again less butt 77.5(12 guillo)
B	Pronated pull up 4sec	3	8	17.5,17.5(8),17.5(9) moooore
C	Incline BB bench press	3	10	75(12 shallow),75,75(deeper 10)again
D	Lat pull down	3	10	60;62.5,62.5(10) mooore
E1	Incline DB flies	3	10	22.5,22.5,22.5(10) wide af mooor
E2	Straight arm pull downs	3	10	35,35,35(10) mooore
				Face pull - 25,25(20)
Day 5 - Sholders and Arms
		Set	Reps	Weight
A1	Standing BB Shoulder press	4	8	52.5(9),55,55,55(8s) mooore30(16)
A2	Seated DB supinate curls	4	8	20,20;20,20(8s) mooore
B1	DB Arnold press	3	10	27.5,27.5(10),27.5(9) again
B2	45Degree Incline hammer Curl	3	10	18.5,18.5,18.5(10) mooore
C1	Chest on bench rear Lateral Raise	3	10	10,10,10(14)
C2	Lying DB Tricep Extension	3	10	47.5,47.5,47.5(10) moooore
	Incline Cable Tricep Extension	4		27.5,27.5,27.5,27.5(14s) mooore

 

[LevButlerov]

Sorry for the late check in. It’s been a great week but not without challenges.

Background: been on TRT for 3+months at 125mg Test E, and this week kicked off with 300mg Test E this week + 6.25 aromasin. Aiming for a 8-12wk cycle.
From Monday to Saturday morning I felt amazing. Energy was high, mood was great all week and I probably had one of the better training weeks of my life. Surely somewhat due to placebo but every workout was 10/10. Felt stronger and fuller, focused on form and connection and just felt great all week… including hitting a deadlift PR - 200kg for sets of 4!

I’m training 5 days per week with Wednesday and Sunday as rest days. Below is my workout week. On top of this I’m hitting 10,000 steps daily on working days which includes a 20min treadmill walk at max incline. On rest days I’m focused on active recovery - 15,000 steps steady state walk.

Satruday post workout my wife and I went to a bath house and did an hour of Sauna and cold plunging.

Then from mid saturday afternoon to monday evening I really struggled. Pre TRT i had a resting heart rate of about 52, since commencing TRT i’m now up at 57ish but rfor the last 3 days I’ve been about 65. I’ve had insomnia, felt somewhat congested and struggled. I’ve checked my BP each day throughout this period and had no elevation but it’s knocked me around a little. I skipped my T does on Monday incase this was related.

I then woke up today (tuesday), back to 100%, RHR back to 59 and trained as normal.

Weight in: 77.7kg average for the week
Blood pressure: 112/67

In the below photos, I’m more or less looking the same as last week though I’m definitely feeling fuller, more 3Dish.

I have a few questions that I'd appreciate any feedback on:

1. The Heart rate changes was concerning. Do you think this is dose related, and if so should i adjust. whilst i’m committed to this cycle, I also don’t want any unusual heart issues to bubble up. Is this elevation normal? Any changes to protocol you recommend?
2. My current traiming block is strength focused. Approx 80 sets per week though i read that when enhanced, you can push the volume to 100+ sets. Would this be advised this early in a cycle?
3. My weight has come down marginally and definitely lost some fat. I plan to keep my cals as they are for the next week then reassess. I really want to add some lean size through this cycle to I’m open to upping cals to achieve this though concious not to increase BF. Currently on 2800cals moderate day, 3200cals leg days, 2100 rest days

Day 1 - Squats
		Set	Reps	Weight
A	Low Bar Squat	5	4	142.5,142.5,142.5,142.5,142.5(4s) goood deeper
B	High Bar Squat	3	10	115,115,115 moooore better depth
C	Front squat -4 sec eccentric	1	8	80(8)
Day 2 - Chest and Back
		Set	Reps	Weight
A	Flat pause BB Bench press	3	4	135(iso-20sec),105,105,105(4s) less butt 75 (12 guillo)
B	Neutral grip pull up - 4sec	3	4	32.5,32.5,32.5(4) perfect mooore
C	Low incline BB chest press 27deg	3	10	75,75(10),77.5(10) gooood [email protected]
D	1 arm pronated DB Row	3	10	62.5,62.5,62.5(12s) mooore
E	Around the world	3	10	19.5,19.5(10)
F	Incline press 35deg slooooow	3	12	32.5 neutral (12) mooore
Day 3 - Deadlift & Squat
		Set	Reps	Weight
A	Deadlift	3	4	180(4),192.5(1),192.5(4),200(4)
B	Romanian Deads	2	10	132.5,132.5(10)mooore
C	High Bar Squat	2	10	110,110,110(10)lighter but extra set
Day 2 - Chest and Back
		Set	Reps	Weight
A	Flat BB Bench press	4	8	92.5,95,95,95(8s) again less butt 77.5(12 guillo)
B	Pronated pull up 4sec	3	8	17.5,17.5(8),17.5(9) moooore
C	Incline BB bench press	3	10	75(12 shallow),75,75(deeper 10)again
D	Lat pull down	3	10	60;62.5,62.5(10) mooore
E1	Incline DB flies	3	10	22.5,22.5,22.5(10) wide af mooor
E2	Straight arm pull downs	3	10	35,35,35(10) mooore
				Face pull - 25,25(20)
Day 5 - Sholders and Arms
		Set	Reps	Weight
A1	Standing BB Shoulder press	4	8	52.5(9),55,55,55(8s) mooore30(16)
A2	Seated DB supinate curls	4	8	20,20;20,20(8s) mooore
B1	DB Arnold press	3	10	27.5,27.5(10),27.5(9) again
B2	45Degree Incline hammer Curl	3	10	18.5,18.5,18.5(10) mooore
C1	Chest on bench rear Lateral Raise	3	10	10,10,10(14)
C2	Lying DB Tricep Extension	3	10	47.5,47.5,47.5(10) moooore
	Incline Cable Tricep Extension	4		27.5,27.5,27.5,27.5(14s) mooore

this is good training hardcore i like your weekly work but shoulder press way too heavy imo @Sharkie

on heart rate changes hard to say, do you have a baseline for last 2 weeks HR and BP?

i would bump your volume to more of 15 rep range with your size tbh

its hard to say on macros as you didnt update any foods


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[Sharkie]

this is good training hardcore i like your weekly work but shoulder press way too heavy imo @Sharkie

on heart rate changes hard to say, do you have a baseline for last 2 weeks HR and BP?

i would bump your volume to more of 15 rep range with your size tbh

its hard to say on macros as you didnt update any foods


@BeMe @HarleyGuy @s.gentz
@Allupfromhere @Pigsy @Dreamer @Freki @R.AP
@waggat @Coolguy @Trenhead3cc @Kopite67 @codezz @Yuri

Thanks mate. Appreciate the response.

Baseline for RHR was 57ish and the jump was around 10 beats per min. I’ve never experienced feeling like that aside from in younger years dabbling with the odd party drug. Should test be impacting RHR like this?
No baseline for BP as I just bought the monitor but will continue to track.

Thanks for the advice on reps and volume. I’ll finish this training block this week then shift into more of a volume focus approach.

Can you pls elaborate on the comment re shoulder press? Did you mean just go light for more volume? Shoulders has always been my weakest muscle group, visually as well.

 

[LevButlerov]

Thanks mate. Appreciate the response.

Baseline for RHR was 57ish and the jump was around 10 beats per min. I’ve never experienced feeling like that aside from in younger years dabbling with the odd party drug. Should test be impacting RHR like this?
No baseline for BP as I just bought the monitor but will continue to track.

Thanks for the advice on reps and volume. I’ll finish this training block this week then shift into more of a volume focus approach.

Can you pls elaborate on the comment re shoulder press? Did you mean just go light for more volume? Shoulders has always been my weakest muscle group, visually as well.

I wouldn't worry about it i would track it for a week 1st day to day no sauna @Sharkie

on the shoulder press those are where the injuries are i mean less weight

 

[waggat]

Sorry for the late check in. It’s been a great week but not without challenges.

Background: been on TRT for 3+months at 125mg Test E, and this week kicked off with 300mg Test E this week + 6.25 aromasin. Aiming for a 8-12wk cycle.
From Monday to Saturday morning I felt amazing. Energy was high, mood was great all week and I probably had one of the better training weeks of my life. Surely somewhat due to placebo but every workout was 10/10. Felt stronger and fuller, focused on form and connection and just felt great all week… including hitting a deadlift PR - 200kg for sets of 4!

I’m training 5 days per week with Wednesday and Sunday as rest days. Below is my workout week. On top of this I’m hitting 10,000 steps daily on working days which includes a 20min treadmill walk at max incline. On rest days I’m focused on active recovery - 15,000 steps steady state walk.

Satruday post workout my wife and I went to a bath house and did an hour of Sauna and cold plunging.

Then from mid saturday afternoon to monday evening I really struggled. Pre TRT i had a resting heart rate of about 52, since commencing TRT i’m now up at 57ish but rfor the last 3 days I’ve been about 65. I’ve had insomnia, felt somewhat congested and struggled. I’ve checked my BP each day throughout this period and had no elevation but it’s knocked me around a little. I skipped my T does on Monday incase this was related.

I then woke up today (tuesday), back to 100%, RHR back to 59 and trained as normal.

Weight in: 77.7kg average for the week
Blood pressure: 112/67

In the below photos, I’m more or less looking the same as last week though I’m definitely feeling fuller, more 3Dish.

I have a few questions that I'd appreciate any feedback on:

1. The Heart rate changes was concerning. Do you think this is dose related, and if so should i adjust. whilst i’m committed to this cycle, I also don’t want any unusual heart issues to bubble up. Is this elevation normal? Any changes to protocol you recommend?
2. My current traiming block is strength focused. Approx 80 sets per week though i read that when enhanced, you can push the volume to 100+ sets. Would this be advised this early in a cycle?
3. My weight has come down marginally and definitely lost some fat. I plan to keep my cals as they are for the next week then reassess. I really want to add some lean size through this cycle to I’m open to upping cals to achieve this though concious not to increase BF. Currently on 2800cals moderate day, 3200cals leg days, 2100 rest days

Day 1 - Squats
		Set	Reps	Weight
A	Low Bar Squat	5	4	142.5,142.5,142.5,142.5,142.5(4s) goood deeper
B	High Bar Squat	3	10	115,115,115 moooore better depth
C	Front squat -4 sec eccentric	1	8	80(8)
Day 2 - Chest and Back
		Set	Reps	Weight
A	Flat pause BB Bench press	3	4	135(iso-20sec),105,105,105(4s) less butt 75 (12 guillo)
B	Neutral grip pull up - 4sec	3	4	32.5,32.5,32.5(4) perfect mooore
C	Low incline BB chest press 27deg	3	10	75,75(10),77.5(10) gooood [email protected]
D	1 arm pronated DB Row	3	10	62.5,62.5,62.5(12s) mooore
E	Around the world	3	10	19.5,19.5(10)
F	Incline press 35deg slooooow	3	12	32.5 neutral (12) mooore
Day 3 - Deadlift & Squat
		Set	Reps	Weight
A	Deadlift	3	4	180(4),192.5(1),192.5(4),200(4)
B	Romanian Deads	2	10	132.5,132.5(10)mooore
C	High Bar Squat	2	10	110,110,110(10)lighter but extra set
Day 2 - Chest and Back
		Set	Reps	Weight
A	Flat BB Bench press	4	8	92.5,95,95,95(8s) again less butt 77.5(12 guillo)
B	Pronated pull up 4sec	3	8	17.5,17.5(8),17.5(9) moooore
C	Incline BB bench press	3	10	75(12 shallow),75,75(deeper 10)again
D	Lat pull down	3	10	60;62.5,62.5(10) mooore
E1	Incline DB flies	3	10	22.5,22.5,22.5(10) wide af mooor
E2	Straight arm pull downs	3	10	35,35,35(10) mooore
				Face pull - 25,25(20)
Day 5 - Sholders and Arms
		Set	Reps	Weight
A1	Standing BB Shoulder press	4	8	52.5(9),55,55,55(8s) mooore30(16)
A2	Seated DB supinate curls	4	8	20,20;20,20(8s) mooore
B1	DB Arnold press	3	10	27.5,27.5(10),27.5(9) again
B2	45Degree Incline hammer Curl	3	10	18.5,18.5,18.5(10) mooore
C1	Chest on bench rear Lateral Raise	3	10	10,10,10(14)
C2	Lying DB Tricep Extension	3	10	47.5,47.5,47.5(10) moooore
	Incline Cable Tricep Extension	4		27.5,27.5,27.5,27.5(14s) mooore

Firstly, I'd forgotten how jacked you are mate. 43 and nattie with just starting trt recently and looking like that! You're going to blow up big time on this cycle hey!

I think it's fairly normal to get some effects like you have when you firstly start your cycle. It doesn't sound too major. Sounds like it's settled now too. If it hadn't I might have said to drop the dose to around 200 for a week or two.

I don't think I'd increase volume due to being on cycle. There's no point really. Then again I'm not the biggest proponent of volume training. To me you're doing 5 days a week with a decent number of exercises do that's fine. Would still prefer less of the strength sets and more bodybuilding sets on your leg days though.

On the calories, what was maintenance before will likely be a deficit now due to increased protein synthesis etc. Since your lean enough for a lean gain on this cycle I'd definitely up macros. Get protein to 250 or so. Get carbs up a bit as well, even on rest days.

 

[Sharkie]

Thanks @LevButlerov - I’ll include RHR in my next check in. And will look at how I can optimise my shoulder day to avoid injuries! Appreciate the help mate.

 

[Sharkie]

Firstly, I'd forgotten how jacked you are mate. 43 and nattie with just starting trt recently and looking like that! You're going to blow up big time on this cycle hey!

I think it's fairly normal to get some effects like you have when you firstly start your cycle. It doesn't sound too major. Sounds like it's settled now too. If it hadn't I might have said to drop the dose to around 200 for a week or two.

I don't think I'd increase volume due to being on cycle. There's no point really. Then again I'm not the biggest proponent of volume training. To me you're doing 5 days a week with a decent number of exercises do that's fine. Would still prefer less of the strength sets and more bodybuilding sets on your leg days though.

On the calories, what was maintenance before will likely be a deficit now due to increased protein synthesis etc. Since your lean enough for a lean gain on this cycle I'd definitely up macros. Get protein to 250 or so. Get carbs up a bit as well, even on rest days.

Thanks @waggat - appreciate it bro - I still see a skinny middle aged man that lacks meat on the bone so keen to see where this cycle can go.
Heart has settled mostly now - but will continue to keep an eye on it. Tbf if this is the only side then I’m pretty happy but if my RHR gets up there again, I’ll take your advice and go back down to 200mg or even back to my 125mg TRT dose as a bit of a reset (though that’s the last thing I want to do). I’m also going to do bloods again next week partly to see where my e2 is at but also to see if there’s any red flags.

I agree, my current play was strength focused and probably no ideal for being on cycle. I’ll finish this week then lock in a new training block. Training in my garage, I’m a little limited with exercise selection but can definitely improve the programming to focus on hypertrophy.
I can definitely get around more food, I’ll plan it out this week and look to implement next week with the shift in training.
As always - appreciate the feedback buddy.

 

[LevButlerov]

Thanks @LevButlerov - I’ll include RHR in my next check in. And will look at how I can optimise my shoulder day to avoid injuries! Appreciate the help mate.

perfect

 

[Sharkie]

It’s almost been 2 weeks on cycle so just wanted to share some early thoughts that have been surprising to me as a first time PED user.

Firstly, I’ve noticed significant mental shift. Through the past 3 months on TRT I’ve progressively felt better. More energy, more positive and more engaged in everyday life… I’ve never found it hard to get up daily and get into the gym (home gym in my garage) though I lacked energy and fire through workouts for some time.
Now 2 weeks in, I’ve found that I’m experiencing a whole new level of determination in the gym. No dread coming into a heavy set or fear of the last few reps of a set of 10, I’m now looking forward to the pain and the grind. Doing legs this morning I found that mentally I felt a huge lift at the end of my sets of heavy squats, almost wanting to feel that struggle in the hole and easily pushing out a few extra reps. This has also converted into more confidence in life too - I’m sure this is common.

Strength. Again as a first timer, i had expectations re: the strength increases of being on cycle. I realise it’s only early and whilst I’ve hit a few PBs over the last week, the increase is marginal… I love lifting heavy though that’s not the purpose of this cycle and found that even without this, I’m looking better, my muscles appear fuller and there’s clearly some recomp going on.

Finally, recovery… I’m 43 and feel amazing. Recovery has definitely improved but I have been very structured around rest days. I know I’ve worked certain body parts the day prior though DOMs no impacting any workouts.

As i said, under 2 weeks in but thought this may help any other noobs.

Still planning on doing bloods next week to understand E2 levels. Also planning to up my Protein and Carbs from next week + shift my trying to more of a volume approach.
Will share photos and training week on Sunday. Let me know if there’s any other information worth sharing.

 

[LevButlerov]

It’s almost been 2 weeks on cycle so just wanted to share some early thoughts that have been surprising to me as a first time PED user.

Firstly, I’ve noticed significant mental shift. Through the past 3 months on TRT I’ve progressively felt better. More energy, more positive and more engaged in everyday life… I’ve never found it hard to get up daily and get into the gym (home gym in my garage) though I lacked energy and fire through workouts for some time.
Now 2 weeks in, I’ve found that I’m experiencing a whole new level of determination in the gym. No dread coming into a heavy set or fear of the last few reps of a set of 10, I’m now looking forward to the pain and the grind. Doing legs this morning I found that mentally I felt a huge lift at the end of my sets of heavy squats, almost wanting to feel that struggle in the hole and easily pushing out a few extra reps. This has also converted into more confidence in life too - I’m sure this is common.

Strength. Again as a first timer, i had expectations re: the strength increases of being on cycle. I realise it’s only early and whilst I’ve hit a few PBs over the last week, the increase is marginal… I love lifting heavy though that’s not the purpose of this cycle and found that even without this, I’m looking better, my muscles appear fuller and there’s clearly some recomp going on.

Finally, recovery… I’m 43 and feel amazing. Recovery has definitely improved but I have been very structured around rest days. I know I’ve worked certain body parts the day prior though DOMs no impacting any workouts.

As i said, under 2 weeks in but thought this may help any other noobs.

Still planning on doing bloods next week to understand E2 levels. Also planning to up my Protein and Carbs from next week + shift my trying to more of a volume approach.
Will share photos and training week on Sunday. Let me know if there’s any other information worth sharing.

2 weeks in and you're getting the first kick @Sharkie pushing it hard.

lets get your bloods in and start updating foods

 

[Mobster]

The difference for some when on TRT can be, mentally, a night and day thing.

 

[stevesmi]

It’s almost been 2 weeks on cycle so just wanted to share some early thoughts that have been surprising to me as a first time PED user.

Firstly, I’ve noticed significant mental shift. Through the past 3 months on TRT I’ve progressively felt better. More energy, more positive and more engaged in everyday life… I’ve never found it hard to get up daily and get into the gym (home gym in my garage) though I lacked energy and fire through workouts for some time.
Now 2 weeks in, I’ve found that I’m experiencing a whole new level of determination in the gym. No dread coming into a heavy set or fear of the last few reps of a set of 10, I’m now looking forward to the pain and the grind. Doing legs this morning I found that mentally I felt a huge lift at the end of my sets of heavy squats, almost wanting to feel that struggle in the hole and easily pushing out a few extra reps. This has also converted into more confidence in life too - I’m sure this is common.

Strength. Again as a first timer, i had expectations re: the strength increases of being on cycle. I realise it’s only early and whilst I’ve hit a few PBs over the last week, the increase is marginal… I love lifting heavy though that’s not the purpose of this cycle and found that even without this, I’m looking better, my muscles appear fuller and there’s clearly some recomp going on.

Finally, recovery… I’m 43 and feel amazing. Recovery has definitely improved but I have been very structured around rest days. I know I’ve worked certain body parts the day prior though DOMs no impacting any workouts.

As i said, under 2 weeks in but thought this may help any other noobs.

Still planning on doing bloods next week to understand E2 levels. Also planning to up my Protein and Carbs from next week + shift my trying to more of a volume approach.
Will share photos and training week on Sunday. Let me know if there’s any other information worth sharing.

@Sharkie essentially that's definitely what we want to see. Hopefully the TRT helps you continue being better mentally. That goes a long way.

 

[ceo]

It’s almost been 2 weeks on cycle so just wanted to share some early thoughts that have been surprising to me as a first time PED user.

Firstly, I’ve noticed significant mental shift. Through the past 3 months on TRT I’ve progressively felt better. More energy, more positive and more engaged in everyday life… I’ve never found it hard to get up daily and get into the gym (home gym in my garage) though I lacked energy and fire through workouts for some time.
Now 2 weeks in, I’ve found that I’m experiencing a whole new level of determination in the gym. No dread coming into a heavy set or fear of the last few reps of a set of 10, I’m now looking forward to the pain and the grind. Doing legs this morning I found that mentally I felt a huge lift at the end of my sets of heavy squats, almost wanting to feel that struggle in the hole and easily pushing out a few extra reps. This has also converted into more confidence in life too - I’m sure this is common.

Strength. Again as a first timer, i had expectations re: the strength increases of being on cycle. I realise it’s only early and whilst I’ve hit a few PBs over the last week, the increase is marginal… I love lifting heavy though that’s not the purpose of this cycle and found that even without this, I’m looking better, my muscles appear fuller and there’s clearly some recomp going on.

Finally, recovery… I’m 43 and feel amazing. Recovery has definitely improved but I have been very structured around rest days. I know I’ve worked certain body parts the day prior though DOMs no impacting any workouts.

As i said, under 2 weeks in but thought this may help any other noobs.

Still planning on doing bloods next week to understand E2 levels. Also planning to up my Protein and Carbs from next week + shift my trying to more of a volume approach.
Will share photos and training week on Sunday. Let me know if there’s any other information worth sharing.

Bros, if you were used to low testosterone levels and you go on TRT and start feeling better, that means that that's a big part of why you weren't feeling good before you had low test levels. @Sharkie

 

[Ulter]

It’s almost been 2 weeks on cycle so just wanted to share some early thoughts that have been surprising to me as a first time PED user.

Firstly, I’ve noticed significant mental shift. Through the past 3 months on TRT I’ve progressively felt better. More energy, more positive and more engaged in everyday life… I’ve never found it hard to get up daily and get into the gym (home gym in my garage) though I lacked energy and fire through workouts for some time.
Now 2 weeks in, I’ve found that I’m experiencing a whole new level of determination in the gym. No dread coming into a heavy set or fear of the last few reps of a set of 10, I’m now looking forward to the pain and the grind. Doing legs this morning I found that mentally I felt a huge lift at the end of my sets of heavy squats, almost wanting to feel that struggle in the hole and easily pushing out a few extra reps. This has also converted into more confidence in life too - I’m sure this is common.

Strength. Again as a first timer, i had expectations re: the strength increases of being on cycle. I realise it’s only early and whilst I’ve hit a few PBs over the last week, the increase is marginal… I love lifting heavy though that’s not the purpose of this cycle and found that even without this, I’m looking better, my muscles appear fuller and there’s clearly some recomp going on.

Finally, recovery… I’m 43 and feel amazing. Recovery has definitely improved but I have been very structured around rest days. I know I’ve worked certain body parts the day prior though DOMs no impacting any workouts.

As i said, under 2 weeks in but thought this may help any other noobs.

Still planning on doing bloods next week to understand E2 levels. Also planning to up my Protein and Carbs from next week + shift my trying to more of a volume approach.
Will share photos and training week on Sunday. Let me know if there’s any other information worth sharing.

If you're already strong as it is then you may be disappointed with how much more strong you get. @Sharkie it really depends on how much room you have to get stronger, if that makes sense.

 

[ROIDDERS]

It’s almost been 2 weeks on cycle so just wanted to share some early thoughts that have been surprising to me as a first time PED user.

Firstly, I’ve noticed significant mental shift. Through the past 3 months on TRT I’ve progressively felt better. More energy, more positive and more engaged in everyday life… I’ve never found it hard to get up daily and get into the gym (home gym in my garage) though I lacked energy and fire through workouts for some time.
Now 2 weeks in, I’ve found that I’m experiencing a whole new level of determination in the gym. No dread coming into a heavy set or fear of the last few reps of a set of 10, I’m now looking forward to the pain and the grind. Doing legs this morning I found that mentally I felt a huge lift at the end of my sets of heavy squats, almost wanting to feel that struggle in the hole and easily pushing out a few extra reps. This has also converted into more confidence in life too - I’m sure this is common.

Strength. Again as a first timer, i had expectations re: the strength increases of being on cycle. I realise it’s only early and whilst I’ve hit a few PBs over the last week, the increase is marginal… I love lifting heavy though that’s not the purpose of this cycle and found that even without this, I’m looking better, my muscles appear fuller and there’s clearly some recomp going on.

Finally, recovery… I’m 43 and feel amazing. Recovery has definitely improved but I have been very structured around rest days. I know I’ve worked certain body parts the day prior though DOMs no impacting any workouts.

As i said, under 2 weeks in but thought this may help any other noobs.

Still planning on doing bloods next week to understand E2 levels. Also planning to up my Protein and Carbs from next week + shift my trying to more of a volume approach.
Will share photos and training week on Sunday. Let me know if there’s any other information worth sharing.

@Sharkie these are some really good notes and thoughts. It just shows that you know your body really well and it shows that you're reacting really well to this new protocol. I'm glad to hear it.

 

[2Thick]

It’s almost been 2 weeks on cycle so just wanted to share some early thoughts that have been surprising to me as a first time PED user.

Firstly, I’ve noticed significant mental shift. Through the past 3 months on TRT I’ve progressively felt better. More energy, more positive and more engaged in everyday life… I’ve never found it hard to get up daily and get into the gym (home gym in my garage) though I lacked energy and fire through workouts for some time.
Now 2 weeks in, I’ve found that I’m experiencing a whole new level of determination in the gym. No dread coming into a heavy set or fear of the last few reps of a set of 10, I’m now looking forward to the pain and the grind. Doing legs this morning I found that mentally I felt a huge lift at the end of my sets of heavy squats, almost wanting to feel that struggle in the hole and easily pushing out a few extra reps. This has also converted into more confidence in life too - I’m sure this is common.

Strength. Again as a first timer, i had expectations re: the strength increases of being on cycle. I realise it’s only early and whilst I’ve hit a few PBs over the last week, the increase is marginal… I love lifting heavy though that’s not the purpose of this cycle and found that even without this, I’m looking better, my muscles appear fuller and there’s clearly some recomp going on.

Finally, recovery… I’m 43 and feel amazing. Recovery has definitely improved but I have been very structured around rest days. I know I’ve worked certain body parts the day prior though DOMs no impacting any workouts.

As i said, under 2 weeks in but thought this may help any other noobs.

Still planning on doing bloods next week to understand E2 levels. Also planning to up my Protein and Carbs from next week + shift my trying to more of a volume approach.
Will share photos and training week on Sunday. Let me know if there’s any other information worth sharing.

You're still young. Believe it or not, 43 years old is super young. Once you get into your 50s and then your 60s, it'll be interesting to see how you feel but so far so good. @Sharkie

 

[ballin2504]

It’s almost been 2 weeks on cycle so just wanted to share some early thoughts that have been surprising to me as a first time PED user.

Firstly, I’ve noticed significant mental shift. Through the past 3 months on TRT I’ve progressively felt better. More energy, more positive and more engaged in everyday life… I’ve never found it hard to get up daily and get into the gym (home gym in my garage) though I lacked energy and fire through workouts for some time.
Now 2 weeks in, I’ve found that I’m experiencing a whole new level of determination in the gym. No dread coming into a heavy set or fear of the last few reps of a set of 10, I’m now looking forward to the pain and the grind. Doing legs this morning I found that mentally I felt a huge lift at the end of my sets of heavy squats, almost wanting to feel that struggle in the hole and easily pushing out a few extra reps. This has also converted into more confidence in life too - I’m sure this is common.

Strength. Again as a first timer, i had expectations re: the strength increases of being on cycle. I realise it’s only early and whilst I’ve hit a few PBs over the last week, the increase is marginal… I love lifting heavy though that’s not the purpose of this cycle and found that even without this, I’m looking better, my muscles appear fuller and there’s clearly some recomp going on.

Finally, recovery… I’m 43 and feel amazing. Recovery has definitely improved but I have been very structured around rest days. I know I’ve worked certain body parts the day prior though DOMs no impacting any workouts.

As i said, under 2 weeks in but thought this may help any other noobs.

Still planning on doing bloods next week to understand E2 levels. Also planning to up my Protein and Carbs from next week + shift my trying to more of a volume approach.
Will share photos and training week on Sunday. Let me know if there’s any other information worth sharing.

@Sharkie harness that and push it brother

 

[Sharkie]

@Sharkie essentially that's definitely what we want to see. Hopefully the TRT helps you continue being better mentally. That goes a long way.

Thanks, appreciate it @stevesmi

Bros, if you were used to low testosterone levels and you go on TRT and start feeling better, that means that that's a big part of why you weren't feeling good before you had low test levels. @Sharkie

This is exactly it, no more head fog, sluggishness and lethargy

If you're already strong as it is then you may be disappointed with how much more strong you get. @Sharkie it really depends on how much room you have to get stronger, if that makes sense.

Thanks - I wasn’t aware of this at all. Makes sense.

@Sharkie these are some really good notes and thoughts. It just shows that you know your body really well and it shows that you're reacting really well to this new protocol. I'm glad to hear it.

love hearing that. I’m definitely feeling that the new protocol is landing well. Body is feeling great after 2 weeks. Will post photos tomorrow morning.

@Sharkie harness that and push it brother

Thanks bro - feel like I’m dialled in now. Feeling great!

 

[Sharkie]

Week 2 check-in
This week started in an odd way with some insomnia and an increase in RHR. RHR was elevated by about 8-10 to 64bpm for a few days. BP was normal, focused on recovery and had it back to normal within 2 days.

Training from there has been solid. Great training week, as I mentioned in my posts yesterday, I’m really starting to feel the difference mid workout. I’m thriving at the end of workouts, matching the intensity of the last rep of the workout with the first. I’m finding that the back end of the sessions I’m almost peaking with energy and feeling I could push harder and further.

Starting to see some little changes in the body. Bit leaner around the midsection and arms, muscle bellies in my arms and legs appearing a little fuller and starting to see a bit more definition in my shoulders.

Diet has been on point. Hit planned macros daily, 10,000+ steps and in a good rhythm with the food intake.

Plan for the week ahead is to change both workout and diet to optimise.
Changes to diet are as follows:

Current		P	C	F	Total
	Non training	200	100	90	2000
	Moderate	220	300	70	2700
	Heavy	220	420	70	3200
New		P	C	F	Total
	Non training	230	100	90	2200
	Moderate	250	350	70	3100
	Heavy	250	460	70	3600

More protein and more carbs across the board but maintaining the carb cycling approach.

Training this week:

Day 1 - Squats
		Set	Reps	Weight
A	Low Bar Squat	5	4	140,145,145,145,145
B	High Bar Squat	3	10	115,115,115 more depth
C	Front squat -4 sec eccentric	1	8	85(8)
Day 2 - Chest and Back
		Set	Reps	Weight
A	Flat pause BB Bench press	3	4	135(iso-20sec),105,105,105(4s), 77.5 (12 guillo)
B	Neutral grip pull up - 4sec	3	4	35,35,35(4) mooore
C	Low incline BB chest press 27deg	3	10	77.5,77.5(10),77.5(9 ) again
D	1 arm pronated DB Row	3	10	62.5,62.5,62.5(12s) mooore
E	Around the world	3	10	18.5,18.5,18.5(10)
F	Incline press 35deg slooooow	3	12	35 (12) Neutral - deeper next time
Day 3 - Deadlift & Squat
		Set	Reps	Weight
A	Deadlift	3	4	180,190,190,200(4) perfect
B	Romanian Deads	2	10	132.5,132.5(10)deeper
C	High Bar Squat	2	10	112.5,112.5,112.5(10)
Day 4 - Chest and Back
		Set	Reps	Weight
A	Flat BB Bench press	4	8	92.5,95,95,95(8) again 77.5,77.5 (12) guillo
B	Pronated pull up 4sec	3	8	20,20,20 (8s) again - short on last rep
C	Incline BB bench press	3	10	75(9),75(10),75(9),60(4sec 10)
D	Lat pull down	3	10	62.5,62.5,62.5(10s) moooe
E1	Incline DB flies	3	10	23.5,23.5,23.5(10) moooore deep af
E2	Straight arm pull downs	3	10	37.5,37.5,37.5 (10) moooore
Day 5 - Sholders and Arms
		Set	Reps	Weight
A1	Standing BB Shoulder press	4	8	45,45,45(12),45(14)
A2	Seated DB supinate curls	4	8	20,20,20,20(8)
B1	DB Arnold press	3	10	27.5(10),27.5(9),27.5(8))
B2	45Degree Incline hammer Curl	3	10	20,20(10),20(7)
C1	Chest on bench rear Lateral Raise	3	10	11,11,11(14) again
C2	Lying DB Tricep Extension	3	10	47.5,47.5,47.5(10) grindy
D	Incline Cable Tricep Extension			Straight bar - 30,30,30(14)

For the next training block I’m moving away from low rep strength approach to focus on volume. Sets of 10-15 across the board with more focus on isolation exercises too.


Bloods booked for Tuesday to see where my E2 levels are after week 2.
Overall, keep grinding, keep pushing it and having fun. Thanks for the advice thus far… so glad I found this Evo community.

 

[Ulter]

Thanks - I wasn’t aware of this at all. Makes sense.

For sure and sometimes when you don't get strong, it means you're actually getting stronger but it's not reflected; it will get reflected later on. It's a process.

 

[Sharkie]

New program:
Based on some comments from @LevButlerov and @waggat I’m looking at shifting my programming for the next training block away from strength to focus more on volume.
I train in a home gym (half rack, deadlift platform, cables and some adjustable free weights).
Based on the limits I have, I’m planning to shift to the below - similar exercises but lower weights and much more volume. This is coinciding with an increase in calorie intake. I want to take advantage of where I am in the cycle (starting week 3 @ 300mg test e only).

This looks like it will kick my arse which I kinda love but open to any feedback.

	Legs
A	High Bar Squat	4	8
B	Front Squat	3	15
C	Bulgaria split squat	3	15
D	Good morning	3	15
E	BB Calf Raises	3	15
	Chest & Back
A	Flat BB Bench press	4	12
B1	Pronated pull up	3	12
B2	Incline BB Bench press	3	15
C	1 arm neutral DB Row	3	12
D1	flies	3	15
D2	Wide slow lat pulldown	3	15
	Legs
A	Deadlift	3	10
B	Romanian deadift	3	10
C	High Bar Squat	3	15
D	BB Lunge	3	15
	Exercise	Week 1
	Chest & Back
A	Flat DB Bench press	4	12
B1	Supinated chin up	3	12
B2	Incline BB bench press	3	15
C	T bar row	3	15
D	Face pull	3	15
E		3	15
	Shoulders & Arms
A1	Seated BB Shoulder press	4	10
A2	Standing BB Curl	4	10
B1	Seated DB shoulder press	3	15
B2	Seated DB hammer Curl - 4sec	3	15
C1	Cable Lateral raise	3	15
C2	Lying DB Tricep Extension	3	15
D	Lying Rope tricep extensions	3	15

@Mobster @stevesmi @ceo @ROIDDERS @Allupfromhere @Ulter @ballin2504

Also check in above that team

 

[LevButlerov]

New program:
Based on some comments from @LevButlerov and @waggat I’m looking at shifting my programming for the next training block away from strength to focus more on volume.
I train in a home gym (half rack, deadlift platform, cables and some adjustable free weights).
Based on the limits I have, I’m planning to shift to the below - similar exercises but lower weights and much more volume. This is coinciding with an increase in calorie intake. I want to take advantage of where I am in the cycle (starting week 3 @ 300mg test e only).

This looks like it will kick my arse which I kinda love but open to any feedback.

	Legs
A	High Bar Squat	4	8
B	Front Squat	3	15
C	Bulgaria split squat	3	15
D	Good morning	3	15
E	BB Calf Raises	3	15
	Chest & Back
A	Flat BB Bench press	4	12
B1	Pronated pull up	3	12
B2	Incline BB Bench press	3	15
C	1 arm neutral DB Row	3	12
D1	flies	3	15
D2	Wide slow lat pulldown	3	15
	Legs
A	Deadlift	3	10
B	Romanian deadift	3	10
C	High Bar Squat	3	15
D	BB Lunge	3	15
	Exercise	Week 1
	Chest & Back
A	Flat DB Bench press	4	12
B1	Supinated chin up	3	12
B2	Incline BB bench press	3	15
C	T bar row	3	15
D	Face pull	3	15
E		3	15
	Shoulders & Arms
A1	Seated BB Shoulder press	4	10
A2	Standing BB Curl	4	10
B1	Seated DB shoulder press	3	15
B2	Seated DB hammer Curl - 4sec	3	15
C1	Cable Lateral raise	3	15
C2	Lying DB Tricep Extension	3	15
D	Lying Rope tricep extensions	3	15

@Mobster @stevesmi @ceo @ROIDDERS @Allupfromhere @Ulter @ballin2504

Also check in above that team

Good shift you would do well if you moved this up, at least some more bigger drop sets with 25s @Sharkie